三哥RP爆棚! MD慷慨.......AG79, F414技术全转移给三哥 ...

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突然波音呈现出这么大的威力..........AG79,F414 全部技术转移给A3?

虽然波音也没完全明确........

希拉里也去做广告,搞推销...............

这个看来,  MD也是脱了裤子, 赚这一笔了...................

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看到下面这一条,觉得欧洲这回是输定了:  MD搞个AG79也是8年磨一剑.........


As far as AESA is concerned, the Boeing-Raytheon team seemed to take on their European rivals who are still developing/integrating their product. They explained how it took eight years for the APG-79 to move from low rate initial production to first operational deployment.


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Update on Super Hornet pitch

http://livefist.blogspot.com/2009/10...ing-super.html

Shiv Aroor   10.29/2009

. Friend and NDTV associate editor VISHNU SOM was there and has been kind enough to send LiveFist this update on what happened:

As far as the transfer of source codes for AESA is concerned, Boeing is still at the "can't discuss in an open forum, lets see how this plays out" mode. At the same time, the fact that India has agreed to the US end user agreement during Hillary Clinton's visit here means that the full-up Super Hornet IN, inclusive of the upgraded GE F414 engine, the APG-79 AESA and other key systems are cleared for transfer. So it's quite possible that the version of the AESA offered will be full-spec. In fact, I am sure, India would not accept anything less than that.

Secondly, February 2010 is the big date for the IAF and the next phase of the Hornet There will be an evaluation of the following: 1. Mission systems flight evaluation 2. AESA 3. FLIR 4. EW 5. Weapon delivery 6. Maintenance evaluation 7. Technical evaluation.

All this will be done at the Naval Air Station Lemoore in California, the same base from where I flew the second of my Super Hornet sorties. Boeing reps repeatedly state that the AESA will be evaluated in conjunction with other systems, ie, the data link, FLIR etc to showcase the full package.

As far as AESA is concerned, the Boeing-Raytheon team seemed to take on their European rivals who are still developing/integrating their product. They explained how it took eight years for the APG-79 to move from low rate initial production to first operational deployment. The dates are as follows: June 2003 Low rate initial production / December 2006 Operational evaluation completed / December 2007 Initial Operational clearance & Full scale production approval and May 2008 First operational deployment.

The APG-79 has 1,000-hours mean time between failures (MTBF), more than 75,000 operational flight hours, it's been approved for sale to India and will be sustained in US service beyond 2035. The proposed GE F414 EPE (Enhanced Performance Engine) for India offers a 20 per cent increase in thrust and a 1 per cent reduction in fuel burn. The F414 is itself in the 22,000-lb thrust class, 170 lb/second airflow. Engine change is done in under 30 minutes, interchangeable left and right engine installation. No need for a functional check flight after engine change. No throttle restrictions while in operation (I have personally witnessed this, it's amazing -- you can pretty much do what you want with the throttle, slam it to burner and take it back as much as you want ... nothing happens).

Boeing says it WILL offer the Indian Air Force an out and out 9G fighter -- this has been a promise made by the Boeing team. I was led to believe this involves changes in the flight control system, though the airframe itself is OK for 9G.

The pitch -- this is a rugged, proven, operational platform, which is now available to India at a cost NOT too much over its single engine competitors in the MMRCA race. As far as their performance in the trials in Bangalore are concerned, they say that they are satisfied with what they were able to demonstrate to the Indian Air Force but reiterate that its the IAF which has to be satisfied. Thats it for the moment folks.

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突然波音呈现出这么大的威力..........AG79,F414 全部技术转移给A3?

虽然波音也没完全明确........

希拉里也去做广告,搞推销...............

这个看来,  MD也是脱了裤子, 赚这一笔了...................

----------

看到下面这一条,觉得欧洲这回是输定了:  MD搞个AG79也是8年磨一剑.........


As far as AESA is concerned, the Boeing-Raytheon team seemed to take on their European rivals who are still developing/integrating their product. They explained how it took eight years for the APG-79 to move from low rate initial production to first operational deployment.


=====================================================

Update on Super Hornet pitch

http://livefist.blogspot.com/2009/10...ing-super.html

Shiv Aroor   10.29/2009

. Friend and NDTV associate editor VISHNU SOM was there and has been kind enough to send LiveFist this update on what happened:

As far as the transfer of source codes for AESA is concerned, Boeing is still at the "can't discuss in an open forum, lets see how this plays out" mode. At the same time, the fact that India has agreed to the US end user agreement during Hillary Clinton's visit here means that the full-up Super Hornet IN, inclusive of the upgraded GE F414 engine, the APG-79 AESA and other key systems are cleared for transfer. So it's quite possible that the version of the AESA offered will be full-spec. In fact, I am sure, India would not accept anything less than that.

Secondly, February 2010 is the big date for the IAF and the next phase of the Hornet There will be an evaluation of the following: 1. Mission systems flight evaluation 2. AESA 3. FLIR 4. EW 5. Weapon delivery 6. Maintenance evaluation 7. Technical evaluation.

All this will be done at the Naval Air Station Lemoore in California, the same base from where I flew the second of my Super Hornet sorties. Boeing reps repeatedly state that the AESA will be evaluated in conjunction with other systems, ie, the data link, FLIR etc to showcase the full package.

As far as AESA is concerned, the Boeing-Raytheon team seemed to take on their European rivals who are still developing/integrating their product. They explained how it took eight years for the APG-79 to move from low rate initial production to first operational deployment. The dates are as follows: June 2003 Low rate initial production / December 2006 Operational evaluation completed / December 2007 Initial Operational clearance & Full scale production approval and May 2008 First operational deployment.

The APG-79 has 1,000-hours mean time between failures (MTBF), more than 75,000 operational flight hours, it's been approved for sale to India and will be sustained in US service beyond 2035. The proposed GE F414 EPE (Enhanced Performance Engine) for India offers a 20 per cent increase in thrust and a 1 per cent reduction in fuel burn. The F414 is itself in the 22,000-lb thrust class, 170 lb/second airflow. Engine change is done in under 30 minutes, interchangeable left and right engine installation. No need for a functional check flight after engine change. No throttle restrictions while in operation (I have personally witnessed this, it's amazing -- you can pretty much do what you want with the throttle, slam it to burner and take it back as much as you want ... nothing happens).

Boeing says it WILL offer the Indian Air Force an out and out 9G fighter -- this has been a promise made by the Boeing team. I was led to believe this involves changes in the flight control system, though the airframe itself is OK for 9G.

The pitch -- this is a rugged, proven, operational platform, which is now available to India at a cost NOT too much over its single engine competitors in the MMRCA race. As far as their performance in the trials in Bangalore are concerned, they say that they are satisfied with what they were able to demonstrate to the Indian Air Force but reiterate that its the IAF which has to be satisfied. Thats it for the moment folks.
最好多卖点:D
{:3_98:}就阿三那基础,怎么转让。
     把F414的全套图纸给阿三,阿三造得出来吗?
     把APG79的全套资料给阿三,阿三还是搞不出T/R原件。
     当年毛子手把手教阿三生产米格-21,结果阿三升级米格-21不还是得找毛子跟犹太国?
     转让给阿三技术,就是放心。
等着看三哥的杯具
等着看三哥的杯具
不能。。。
说别人之前先想想自己吧
MD小气,要山寨,也该让TG山寨啊
还是要流口水,可怜TG飞机搞出来了,想找个发动机都难。
三哥就是那大茶几啊。。。。。。。。。。


注意这句话................没有完全肯定的............


里面又故弄玄机: 还是一种“不宜张扬...........看看事后发展”的暧昧态度..........

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As far as the transfer of source codes for AESA is concerned, Boeing is still at the "can't discuss in an open forum, lets see how this plays out" mode. At the same time, the fact that India has agreed to the US end user agreement during Hillary Clinton's visit here means that the full-up Super Hornet IN, inclusive of the upgraded GE F414 engine, the APG-79 AESA and other key systems are cleared for transfer. So it's quite possible that the version of the AESA offered will be full-spec.

注意这句话................没有完全肯定的............


里面又故弄玄机: 还是一种“不宜张扬...........看看事后发展”的暧昧态度..........

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As far as the transfer of source codes for AESA is concerned, Boeing is still at the "can't discuss in an open forum, lets see how this plays out" mode. At the same time, the fact that India has agreed to the US end user agreement during Hillary Clinton's visit here means that the full-up Super Hornet IN, inclusive of the upgraded GE F414 engine, the APG-79 AESA and other key systems are cleared for transfer. So it's quite possible that the version of the AESA offered will be full-spec.
英国病人 发表于 2009-10-30 20:22

也好。。给三哥了。。TG看米帝技术又进了一点距离呀。。。
MD在故意气TB吗?
就阿三那基础,怎么转让。
     把F414的全套图纸给阿三,阿三造得出来吗?
     把APG79的全套资料给阿三,阿三还是搞不出T/R原件。
     当年毛子手把手教阿三生产米格-21,结果阿三升级米格-21不还是得找毛子跟犹太国?
     转让给阿三技术,就是放心。
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给三哥。。巴铁给三哥世代有仇的。。这样不是让巴铁去搞吗?。。。
希望这次三哥真的RP爆发!
想占扬基们的便宜,等下辈子吧。。。。。。。。。。。。。
波音说:被涨价什么的,我最讨厌了!
benshan 发表于 2009-10-30 20:39

{:3_82:}MD敢卖给土鳖F414的话,成飞5年内给丫攒出来个双中发出来,绝对不输台风阵风
为了大单 下老本了
可惜了
给TG多好
毛子和老美怎么都扯上三哥这一只羊身上的毛了?不能换一个嘛?MD,把那几个东西卖TG几个嘛,咱不嫌贵。
美俄都知道给印度和白给没区别。所以大方的很,给TB?那不是自绝生路吗?
卖给阿三真得什么价格啊?恐怕是外星人价格了
不是md脱裤子甩卖,而是要a三当裤子买啊,哈哈,阿三抓紧啊!
转让18生产线嘛
英国病人 发表于 2009-10-30 20:44
其实俺更稀饭EJ200
MD懂得一个道理:肉包子打阿三,有去有回!
坐看三哥
等着看三哥的杯具
韩国最近和MD因为升级F-16 AESA的事情也是扯得相当上火.............到时候估计三哥也是上当的份.........
{:3_82:}阿三就是那种花了大钱引进了生产线还要继续购买国外成品的国家。。。
给a3也没有用,a3现在连mig21都不能完全生产
英国病人 发表于 2009-10-30 20:22
感觉你也把阿三贬得太低了点吧,何况MD不像老毛子那般不讲江湖道义,按西方人的准则,竟然卖给你了就要让你能用能造。F414和APG79我觉得印度人得到技术后会弄出来的。把敌人想像得太弱智,那是很危险的。
俄毛已经为美帝试过了,连SU30都拼不出来的三哥造美机就是个天大的笑话.
要是TB能买到EJ200就爽咯,不过有感于太行,觉得就算有EJ200还是仿不出
人民日报表示,我国连米格21也必须依赖俄罗斯提供关键部件,望美帝速速转让F414技术,我们保证无法复制成功,我保证……
我估计美国人就是给也会给做了手脚的图纸,等到该出手的时候大笔大笔的转咨询费
多少钱?不会到时连搞个小零件都要收版权吧?
不要小看印度,评判也要讲正反两面。
一个个酸葡萄心理和自大。
这是美帝的钓鱼工程
先让3哥上钩
然后想怎么整就怎么整
什么涨价啦;你造不出来,我卖给你零件啦;统统都能使出来

话说俄罗斯卖给3哥的航母,美帝现在估计都能眼馋死