超级军网去了PTT，看看台湾人对大陆阅兵的看法
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无非是这几种看法：
1：关我什么事。
2：为什么有这么多电视台播，难道今天是国庆吗？
3：大陆这边庆祝，台湾为什么要因为水灾取消国庆庆祝。
4：想看一看，了解一下敌人的水平。
5：大陆军队很先进，国军也要赶上啊。
我记得十几年前，大陆军队还是落后和土的代表，到现在怎么个个
都惊呼不可战胜，这KC红的也太快了吧，是什么时候开始转变的呢？无非是这几种看法：
1：关我什么事。
2：为什么有这么多电视台播，难道今天是国庆吗？
3：大陆这边庆祝，台湾为什么要因为水灾取消国庆庆祝。
4：想看一看，了解一下敌人的水平。
5：大陆军队很先进，国军也要赶上啊。
我记得十几年前，大陆军队还是落后和土的代表，到现在怎么个个
都惊呼不可战胜，这KC红的也太快了吧，是什么时候开始转变的呢？
1：关我什么事。
2：为什么有这么多电视台播，难道今天是国庆吗？
3：大陆这边庆祝，台湾为什么要因为水灾取消国庆庆祝。
4：想看一看，了解一下敌人的水平。
5：大陆军队很先进，国军也要赶上啊。
我记得十几年前，大陆军队还是落后和土的代表，到现在怎么个个
都惊呼不可战胜，这KC红的也太快了吧，是什么时候开始转变的呢？无非是这几种看法：
1：关我什么事。
2：为什么有这么多电视台播，难道今天是国庆吗？
3：大陆这边庆祝，台湾为什么要因为水灾取消国庆庆祝。
4：想看一看，了解一下敌人的水平。
5：大陆军队很先进，国军也要赶上啊。
我记得十几年前，大陆军队还是落后和土的代表，到现在怎么个个
都惊呼不可战胜，这KC红的也太快了吧，是什么时候开始转变的呢？
。。。。。。。。。WW也不是纯傻子啊。装B而已。
我们这里骂归骂，还是希望中国强大起来。
我们一次阅兵，连CNN和BCC都直播。
台湾更有3个电视台直播。
说明大陆已经越来越受到重视了。
我们一次阅兵，连CNN和BCC都直播。
台湾更有3个电视台直播。
说明大陆已经越来越受到重视了。
pmii 发表于 2009-10-1 20:33 
是啊！中国这么个恢复力量的庞然大物如果被视而不见，那纯属将13了。
是啊！中国这么个恢复力量的庞然大物如果被视而不见，那纯属将13了。
不错，，，越来越重视我们了
也幸好自己不是WW人，那压力大啊
pmii 发表于 2009-10-1 20:33
啥?BBC和CNN都直播了?
那么小小期待下BBC版的开幕式种子...
啥?BBC和CNN都直播了?
那么小小期待下BBC版的开幕式种子...
WW的心理压力没你想象那么大，对普通老百姓来说，大陆的导弹越来越准是好事。
八宝山老妖 发表于 2009-10-1 20:56
不落到自己头上就好，呵呵
不落到自己头上就好，呵呵
jadiyd 发表于 2009-10-1 20:56
贵宾恐怕要失望了，据说BBC用的就是CCAV-9的版本
贵宾恐怕要失望了，据说BBC用的就是CCAV-9的版本
现在打起来也不太可能
BBC恐怕只有一个机位……估计好不了。
BBC CNN 到现在还在间断的直播晚会。。。
以后还有惊喜， 心理的落差会慢慢表现出来的
路过看看。。
路过看看。。
PTT这个论坛的链接麻烦给我一个。
其实不整齐是一方面，我认为很大一部分是摄影的角度有问题。没摄出场面的宏伟，摄的角度不是人想看的角度。对比一下99年的摄影角度就知道了。一句话----摄影太差！
很仔细的看了一下BBC对于这次的报道，还有下面的评论……味道跟以前有不少的变化……他们（包括普通人）终于学会慢慢正视事实了
要说没WW的事，也对，毕竟涛哥没法直接领导他们，只能影响他们。不过，你要说N年轻WW不屑这边就算了，但是现在可能TG的重要性连西方人也认识到了，所以稍微关注一下对大家也是无害的。
海军的白色礼服，在阳光下太刺眼了
他们的礼服真是干净啊
他们的礼服真是干净啊
大侧斜螺旋桨 发表于 2009-10-1 21:36
PTT好像要代理上，大陆人民去了，要有心理承受力，那边是“支那”“中国猪”满天飞。
PTT好像要代理上，大陆人民去了，要有心理承受力，那边是“支那”“中国猪”满天飞。
转一下BBC的有关报道，也挺搞的……
这四个图，BBC找的专家是这么解读的
1 We are modern, we are beautiful, and we don't forget who makes us so.
We stand united.
We march proudly forward to defend steadfastly the Party's leadership.
We uphold the red flag and the Leninist heritage carved in stone.
2 There is no forgetting the past.
Continuity is what makes China great. I am a modern globetrotting leader who brings you national strength and prosperity.
China is rising. But don't forget, I inherit and uphold the legacy of Chairman Mao - ina great big modern Hongqi limousine, not just a Mercedes.
3 Rejoice, we are on track to build a harmonious society - under the leadership of President Hu and the Communist Party.
It is modern.
It is Chinese.
Now, all of you get on the fast track to a harmonious society on the "Harmony" high speed train.
Dissent is not harmonious.
4 Isn't our modern air force great?
But don't forget to admire the blue sky.
The People's Liberation Army has seen to it - and not a bird in sight, until their turn comes when the doves will be released. We can conquer nature - and we have.
We should all rejoice and unite under the leadership of the Party.
这中国问题专家的角度还真够特别的:L
这四个图，BBC找的专家是这么解读的
1 We are modern, we are beautiful, and we don't forget who makes us so.
We stand united.
We march proudly forward to defend steadfastly the Party's leadership.
We uphold the red flag and the Leninist heritage carved in stone.
2 There is no forgetting the past.
Continuity is what makes China great. I am a modern globetrotting leader who brings you national strength and prosperity.
China is rising. But don't forget, I inherit and uphold the legacy of Chairman Mao - ina great big modern Hongqi limousine, not just a Mercedes.
3 Rejoice, we are on track to build a harmonious society - under the leadership of President Hu and the Communist Party.
It is modern.
It is Chinese.
Now, all of you get on the fast track to a harmonious society on the "Harmony" high speed train.
Dissent is not harmonious.
4 Isn't our modern air force great?
But don't forget to admire the blue sky.
The People's Liberation Army has seen to it - and not a bird in sight, until their turn comes when the doves will be released. We can conquer nature - and we have.
We should all rejoice and unite under the leadership of the Party.
这中国问题专家的角度还真够特别的:L
What next for China?
这个新闻下的评论也挺多的，选几个
Added: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 14:00 GMT 15:00 UK
Whether or not China moves towards democracy is their decision - it is unethical to pressure countries into it, and undemocratic at that. However they must be careful not to alienate large sectors of the population, including the ethnic Uighurs, as a riot in a population that size can easily become a revolution. The world should also look to China for a solution to the problem of overpopulation, as it will fall at their feet first. Whatever happens, they will play a large part in future events.
Sowik，Wallingford Daniel Sowik , Wallingford, United Kingdom
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Added: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 13:48 GMT 14:48 UK
China in my opinion has been keeping its self to its self. If a few other nations followed suit the world would be a safer place. After all i don't' see her sticking her nose in other country's problems. So her track record on her own nationals is not one hundred percent,i/e the square. But then you must remember she has a lot of mouths two feed and she employs her own police force not them on the world stage.She also put goods at a slightly reduced rate so others have access as well.
graham new , santa comba dao, Portugal
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Added: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 13:37 GMT 14:37 UK
“What next for China?”
China has accomplished a lot to be proud of in 60 years. I believe the greatest obstacle in China's future will be maintaining internal unity. The imbalance between the wealthy cost and the poorer rural interior as well as the existing social & ethnic tensions in distant territories such as Xinjiang and Tibet will be of great concern to China's government. Whether they will attempt to solve this problem with progressive reform or forceful control is the real question...
Bro Winky , Toronto, Canada
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Added: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 13:00 GMT 14:00 UK
I realise that China has its Humanitarian problems, but our country along with the rest of the world should listen and watch what they are doing, as they are going to be the lead nation in the world. The only way they can fail is if we send Brown to China, but he wouldn't be wanted there either.这句有点意思
tony horler , edinburgh
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Added: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 12:45 GMT 13:45 UK
As becoming dominating financial power would China lead the way forward. Times ahead will show …they have peaceful policy and none interference into others´ affairs.
I don't care would it be capitalism or socialism for as long proves it works. A nation may have the top world's resources and populist but if doesn't has correct, decent and with integrity management would achieve nothing but keep its people in poverty. In the west we carry on with ´the soul in heaven and body on earth´
Would China lead the way ahead
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Added: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 12:43 GMT 13:43 UK
China has a complex cultural and social society beyond the new bright cities, the challenge for those in power is to bring the outer societies into the modern China, without leaving a huge underclass which may be problematic in years to come, to the detriment of us all. Good fortune I say, may benevolence be your strength.
Roger Stewart , Perth, Australia
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Added: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 12:42 GMT 13:42 UK
Where do we have "democracy"?
Where is "democracy" not ruled by the political elite? How else do we get "relatives" following each other into power?
There is no "democracy"; there is plutocracy - rule by the upper class which rides upon the back of the lower classes. It is my sincere hope that China will not move towards western "democracy" with its cruel exploitation. It is my sincere hope that China will lead the world to a better place, maybe true DEMOCRACY.
Regina-Gabrielle Berry , Toronto, Canada
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最后这个加拿大人写的比较激进点，会被某些人骂成左粪的，哈哈
这个新闻下的评论也挺多的，选几个
Added: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 14:00 GMT 15:00 UK
Whether or not China moves towards democracy is their decision - it is unethical to pressure countries into it, and undemocratic at that. However they must be careful not to alienate large sectors of the population, including the ethnic Uighurs, as a riot in a population that size can easily become a revolution. The world should also look to China for a solution to the problem of overpopulation, as it will fall at their feet first. Whatever happens, they will play a large part in future events.
Sowik，Wallingford Daniel Sowik , Wallingford, United Kingdom
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Added: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 13:48 GMT 14:48 UK
China in my opinion has been keeping its self to its self. If a few other nations followed suit the world would be a safer place. After all i don't' see her sticking her nose in other country's problems. So her track record on her own nationals is not one hundred percent,i/e the square. But then you must remember she has a lot of mouths two feed and she employs her own police force not them on the world stage.She also put goods at a slightly reduced rate so others have access as well.
graham new , santa comba dao, Portugal
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Added: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 13:37 GMT 14:37 UK
“What next for China?”
China has accomplished a lot to be proud of in 60 years. I believe the greatest obstacle in China's future will be maintaining internal unity. The imbalance between the wealthy cost and the poorer rural interior as well as the existing social & ethnic tensions in distant territories such as Xinjiang and Tibet will be of great concern to China's government. Whether they will attempt to solve this problem with progressive reform or forceful control is the real question...
Bro Winky , Toronto, Canada
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Added: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 13:00 GMT 14:00 UK
I realise that China has its Humanitarian problems, but our country along with the rest of the world should listen and watch what they are doing, as they are going to be the lead nation in the world. The only way they can fail is if we send Brown to China, but he wouldn't be wanted there either.这句有点意思
tony horler , edinburgh
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Added: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 12:45 GMT 13:45 UK
As becoming dominating financial power would China lead the way forward. Times ahead will show …they have peaceful policy and none interference into others´ affairs.
I don't care would it be capitalism or socialism for as long proves it works. A nation may have the top world's resources and populist but if doesn't has correct, decent and with integrity management would achieve nothing but keep its people in poverty. In the west we carry on with ´the soul in heaven and body on earth´
Would China lead the way ahead
——————————————————
Added: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 12:43 GMT 13:43 UK
China has a complex cultural and social society beyond the new bright cities, the challenge for those in power is to bring the outer societies into the modern China, without leaving a huge underclass which may be problematic in years to come, to the detriment of us all. Good fortune I say, may benevolence be your strength.
Roger Stewart , Perth, Australia
——————————————————
Added: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 12:42 GMT 13:42 UK
Where do we have "democracy"?
Where is "democracy" not ruled by the political elite? How else do we get "relatives" following each other into power?
There is no "democracy"; there is plutocracy - rule by the upper class which rides upon the back of the lower classes. It is my sincere hope that China will not move towards western "democracy" with its cruel exploitation. It is my sincere hope that China will lead the world to a better place, maybe true DEMOCRACY.
Regina-Gabrielle Berry , Toronto, Canada
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最后这个加拿大人写的比较激进点，会被某些人骂成左粪的，哈哈
求翻译
英文实在不行。。
英文实在不行。。
楼主你去的是PTT的那个版面?
女主持人：我们比对岸还有多少空优？
男评论员：...........我们离对岸有很大差距..........
：不是所有武器都针对台湾的啦........大国规模 ..........
女主持人：//(ㄒoㄒ)//
男评论员：...........我们离对岸有很大差距..........
：不是所有武器都针对台湾的啦........大国规模 ..........
女主持人：//(ㄒoㄒ)//
qidaxue 发表于 2009-10-1 22:32
八卦版，军事版和hatepolitics版
八卦版，军事版和hatepolitics版
最后一段翻译一下……
我们哪里有“民主”？
哪儿的民主不是被那些政治精英们所控制？否则我们又如何解释你方唱罢我登场的这种格局？
没有所谓的“民主”，有的只是上阶层压迫下阶层的财阀政治。我真诚的希望中国不会走向带着残酷剥削的西式民主。祝愿中国将世界引领向一个更美好的未来，或许是一个真正有民主的未来。
这叫某些教主读起来……“不得了啊，五毛出国了……”:D
我们哪里有“民主”？
哪儿的民主不是被那些政治精英们所控制？否则我们又如何解释你方唱罢我登场的这种格局？
没有所谓的“民主”，有的只是上阶层压迫下阶层的财阀政治。我真诚的希望中国不会走向带着残酷剥削的西式民主。祝愿中国将世界引领向一个更美好的未来，或许是一个真正有民主的未来。
这叫某些教主读起来……“不得了啊，五毛出国了……”:D
当然抱着旧观点看问题的也不是少数……但是看起来只要关注就会有了解，有了解认识就会有进步，有进步就可以进一步对话，可以对话才有未来嘛
我在这里问一下，哪里可以在线看TVB或者其他台湾电视台直播阅兵的视频。
要国语的。
要国语的。
Added: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 12:31 GMT 13:31 UK
I expect the Chinese growth-bubble to burst in the near future, followed by huge social unrest that will either definitely turn China into just another corrupt dictatorship, only following an ideology in name (like many Arab countries today) or into a democracy.
Either way I expect China to become the world's 2nd superpower and effectively colonize the third world.
Jan B
这名怎么翻译……贱B:D？罪过罪过，不过这伙计最后一句也挺邪恶啊……无论如何我还是希望中国成为世界第二的超级大国，并对第三世界国家实施有效的拓殖……
娘哎，民主人士也希望我们成为中华帝国呀……:D赤果果啊赤果果
I expect the Chinese growth-bubble to burst in the near future, followed by huge social unrest that will either definitely turn China into just another corrupt dictatorship, only following an ideology in name (like many Arab countries today) or into a democracy.
Either way I expect China to become the world's 2nd superpower and effectively colonize the third world.
Jan B
这名怎么翻译……贱B:D？罪过罪过，不过这伙计最后一句也挺邪恶啊……无论如何我还是希望中国成为世界第二的超级大国，并对第三世界国家实施有效的拓殖……
娘哎，民主人士也希望我们成为中华帝国呀……:D赤果果啊赤果果
翩翩冠玉 发表于 2009-10-1 22:37
那个加拿大人说得还不错。说实话，现实是我们TG也没能走出少数同志多数啊，替他们实现民主的梦想，咱们暂时还没这能力。
那个加拿大人说得还不错。说实话，现实是我们TG也没能走出少数同志多数啊，替他们实现民主的梦想，咱们暂时还没这能力。
八卦版，军事版和hatepolitics版
pmii 发表于 2009-10-1 22:37
你能把八卦版，军事版、hatepolitics的路径告诉我吗? PTT版面太乱,我找不到八卦版，军事版、hatepolitics
你能把八卦版，军事版、hatepolitics的路径告诉我吗?
八卦版，军事版和hatepolitics版
pmii 发表于 2009-10-1 22:37
你能把八卦版，军事版、hatepolitics的路径告诉我吗? PTT版面太乱,我找不到八卦版，军事版、hatepolitics
你能把八卦版，军事版、hatepolitics的路径告诉我吗?
翩翩冠玉 发表于 2009-10-1 22:37
这个还是看北美局奥巴马书记吧:D
这个还是看北美局奥巴马书记吧:D
你去及时热门看版里，第一个就是八卦版，hatepolitics大约在40名左右，军事版就一个贴子，10几个回复，就不用看了。
Added: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 12:28 GMT 13:28 UK
Interesting reading all the posts that say the US will be at the mercy of China and that China will be the master of the US If the United States were to stop purchasing all Chinese goods and services or at least level the economic playing field I'm sure the so-called Chinese tiger would be significantly tamed.
Rich P, Milwaukee, Wisconsin
If China called in the US debt that they own it would cripple your country over night, China would soon find another buyer for most of their goods.
[Secratariat] , Liverpool, United Kingdom
这个是下面的人反驳上面的观点的，上面的意思大概是：从可笑的报道听说美国将听从中国摆布，中国将成为美国的主人，但是我相信如果美国停止采购中国的一切商品和服务（看来跟国内抵日货的热血有点像），对贸易竞争领域做出限制，我相信中国虎的威胁将会大大降低。
下面那个英国人就说，如果中国向美国主张自己的那些债权，贵国（美国）将一夜之间垮掉，而中国会为自己的商品迅速找到下一个买家。
这英国哥们虽然口气听着挺爽，不过想也挺单纯:D
Interesting reading all the posts that say the US will be at the mercy of China and that China will be the master of the US If the United States were to stop purchasing all Chinese goods and services or at least level the economic playing field I'm sure the so-called Chinese tiger would be significantly tamed.
Rich P, Milwaukee, Wisconsin
If China called in the US debt that they own it would cripple your country over night, China would soon find another buyer for most of their goods.
[Secratariat] , Liverpool, United Kingdom
这个是下面的人反驳上面的观点的，上面的意思大概是：从可笑的报道听说美国将听从中国摆布，中国将成为美国的主人，但是我相信如果美国停止采购中国的一切商品和服务（看来跟国内抵日货的热血有点像），对贸易竞争领域做出限制，我相信中国虎的威胁将会大大降低。
下面那个英国人就说，如果中国向美国主张自己的那些债权，贵国（美国）将一夜之间垮掉，而中国会为自己的商品迅速找到下一个买家。
这英国哥们虽然口气听着挺爽，不过想也挺单纯:D
Added: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 12:24 GMT 13:24 UK
The success of China has really riled the US and its allies in Europe and therefore as a result the US is now engaging heaviliy with India which is sees as the only real power able to compete with China. Therefore call me a cynic but expect some confrontations between the two.
Cuthbert Brown , Warrington
这个赤果果的王国FQ是这么说的：中国的成功已经激怒了美国和他在欧洲的盟友，这会导致一个结果那就是美国正在同印度展开密切的合作，因为印度是被认定是唯一有能力与中国竞争的国家。你们叫我愤青也罢，但我就是希望看到这两国之间起冲突。
{:3_90:}果然天下愤愤本一家啊
The success of China has really riled the US and its allies in Europe and therefore as a result the US is now engaging heaviliy with India which is sees as the only real power able to compete with China. Therefore call me a cynic but expect some confrontations between the two.
Cuthbert Brown , Warrington
这个赤果果的王国FQ是这么说的：中国的成功已经激怒了美国和他在欧洲的盟友，这会导致一个结果那就是美国正在同印度展开密切的合作，因为印度是被认定是唯一有能力与中国竞争的国家。你们叫我愤青也罢，但我就是希望看到这两国之间起冲突。
{:3_90:}果然天下愤愤本一家啊
不是所有武器都针对台湾的啦........大国规模 ..........
女主持人：//(ㄒoㄒ)//
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打台湾根本不需要这些武器，太把自己当根葱了。
女主持人：//(ㄒoㄒ)//
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打台湾根本不需要这些武器，太把自己当根葱了。
pmii 发表于 2009-10-1 22:54
我刚才把前两个版找到了，但是军事版没找到，我想看看军事版的其他内容
你能把PTT军事版的路径告诉我吗？
我刚才把前两个版找到了，但是军事版没找到，我想看看军事版的其他内容
你能把PTT军事版的路径告诉我吗？