比上所谓的美女强多了,爽啊。。。。

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http://www.computerworld.com/act ... 1&intsrc=kc_top

印度人不是号称这方面很强嘛,怎么集体阳痿了。:D

China dominates NSA-backed coding contest
Chinese student, 18, wins, prompting call for earlier math and science education in U.S.
By Patrick Thibodeau
June 8, 2009

Computerworld - Programmers from China and Russia have dominated an international competition on everything from writing algorithms to designing components.


Winner: Bin Jin, or 'crazyb0y.

'Whether the outcome of this competition is another sign that math and science education in the U.S. needs improvement may spur debate. But the fact remains: Of 70 finalists, 20 were from China, 10 from Russia and two from the U.S.

TopCoder Inc., which runs software competitions as part of its software development service, operates TopCoder Open, an annual contest.

About 4,200 people participated in the U.S. National Security Agency-supported challenge. The NSA has been sponsoring the program for a number of years because of its interest in hiring people with advanced skills.

Participants in the contest, which was open to anyone -- from student to professional -- and finished with 120 competitors from around the world, went through a process of elimination that finished this month in Las Vegas.

China's showing in the finals was also helped by the sheer volume of its numbers, 894. India followed at 705, but none of its programmers were finalists. :D :D Russia had 380 participants; the United States, 234; Poland, 214; Egypt, 145; and Ukraine, 128, among others.

Of the total number of contestants, 93% were male, and 84% were aged between 18 and 24.

Rob Hughes, president and COO of TopCoder, said the strong finish by programmers from China, Russia, Eastern Europe and elsewhere is indicative of the importance those countries put on mathematics and science education.

"We do the same thing with athletics here that they do with mathematics and science there," Hughes said. He said the U.S. needs to make earlier inroads in middle schools and high school math and science education.

That's a point Hughes is hardly alone on. President Barack Obama, as well as many of the major tech leaders including Bill Gates, have called for similar action.

Of the participants in the contest, more than 57% had bachelor's degrees, most in computer science, and of that 20% had earned a masters degree, and 6% a PhD.

But the winner of the algorithm competition was an 18-year-old student from China, Bin Jin, who went by the handle "crazyb0y". Chinese programmers have a history of doing very well in this contest.

Mike Lydon, TopCoder's CTO, said Jin's future in computer science is assured. "This gentleman can do whatever he wants," he said.

The participants are tested in design, development, architecture, among others, but one of the most popular is the algorithm coding contest.

To give some sense of difficulty, Lydon provided a description of a problem that the contestants were asked to solve:

"With the rise of services such as Facebook and MySpace, the analysis and understanding of such networks is a particularly active area of current computer science research. At an abstract level, these networks consist of nodes (people), connected by links (friendship).

"In this problem, competitors were given the description of two such networks, but with the names of all the nodes removed from each. The networks were each scrambled up before given to the competitors. The task was to determine if the two networks could possibly be from the same group of people.

"The competitors were to unscramble and label the two networks so that if Alice was connected to Bob in one of the two networks, then Alice was also connected to Bob in the other network. This problem is known as the network isomorphism problem, and solving it for large networks is a major unsolved problem in the realm of theoretical computer science."

Lydon said the overall problem is unsolved for larger networks, and what's considered a correct answer for this problem would not be considered large enough for the solution in this case to be groundbreaking.

Two people solved the problem.http://www.computerworld.com/act ... 1&intsrc=kc_top

印度人不是号称这方面很强嘛,怎么集体阳痿了。:D

China dominates NSA-backed coding contest
Chinese student, 18, wins, prompting call for earlier math and science education in U.S.
By Patrick Thibodeau
June 8, 2009

Computerworld - Programmers from China and Russia have dominated an international competition on everything from writing algorithms to designing components.


Winner: Bin Jin, or 'crazyb0y.

'Whether the outcome of this competition is another sign that math and science education in the U.S. needs improvement may spur debate. But the fact remains: Of 70 finalists, 20 were from China, 10 from Russia and two from the U.S.

TopCoder Inc., which runs software competitions as part of its software development service, operates TopCoder Open, an annual contest.

About 4,200 people participated in the U.S. National Security Agency-supported challenge. The NSA has been sponsoring the program for a number of years because of its interest in hiring people with advanced skills.

Participants in the contest, which was open to anyone -- from student to professional -- and finished with 120 competitors from around the world, went through a process of elimination that finished this month in Las Vegas.

China's showing in the finals was also helped by the sheer volume of its numbers, 894. India followed at 705, but none of its programmers were finalists. :D :D Russia had 380 participants; the United States, 234; Poland, 214; Egypt, 145; and Ukraine, 128, among others.

Of the total number of contestants, 93% were male, and 84% were aged between 18 and 24.

Rob Hughes, president and COO of TopCoder, said the strong finish by programmers from China, Russia, Eastern Europe and elsewhere is indicative of the importance those countries put on mathematics and science education.

"We do the same thing with athletics here that they do with mathematics and science there," Hughes said. He said the U.S. needs to make earlier inroads in middle schools and high school math and science education.

That's a point Hughes is hardly alone on. President Barack Obama, as well as many of the major tech leaders including Bill Gates, have called for similar action.

Of the participants in the contest, more than 57% had bachelor's degrees, most in computer science, and of that 20% had earned a masters degree, and 6% a PhD.

But the winner of the algorithm competition was an 18-year-old student from China, Bin Jin, who went by the handle "crazyb0y". Chinese programmers have a history of doing very well in this contest.

Mike Lydon, TopCoder's CTO, said Jin's future in computer science is assured. "This gentleman can do whatever he wants," he said.

The participants are tested in design, development, architecture, among others, but one of the most popular is the algorithm coding contest.

To give some sense of difficulty, Lydon provided a description of a problem that the contestants were asked to solve:

"With the rise of services such as Facebook and MySpace, the analysis and understanding of such networks is a particularly active area of current computer science research. At an abstract level, these networks consist of nodes (people), connected by links (friendship).

"In this problem, competitors were given the description of two such networks, but with the names of all the nodes removed from each. The networks were each scrambled up before given to the competitors. The task was to determine if the two networks could possibly be from the same group of people.

"The competitors were to unscramble and label the two networks so that if Alice was connected to Bob in one of the two networks, then Alice was also connected to Bob in the other network. This problem is known as the network isomorphism problem, and solving it for large networks is a major unsolved problem in the realm of theoretical computer science."

Lydon said the overall problem is unsolved for larger networks, and what's considered a correct answer for this problem would not be considered large enough for the solution in this case to be groundbreaking.

Two people solved the problem.
我的拼音学的不好,看不懂。。。
让我想起玄天九变里面的故事...
毛子和TB合作编写30的飞行软件包...而号称软件外包大国的A3却没有什么事可做...
这哥们确实厉害。华人天才多啊。复杂网络方面,好像我国目前挺不错。
人家是软件民工,不搞这种高科技的
印度人的软件业是什么概念?设计?还是代工?也就是照葫芦画瓢?
歼击机07 发表于 2009-6-9 16:41
强悍
就世界上最高水平的programmer contest主要指算法+程序这一块来说
基本上还是俄罗斯,中国,东欧和美国最强。。。
印度有几个厉害的。。还是数量根上述4个不能比。。
来个人翻译下
基本看不懂
基本看不懂  :')
据说印度把软件业当劳动密集型产业来做,没有计算机基础的人,几个月速成上岗,软件代码都是现成的,话的不过是函数或者对象而已。
国内青鸟和印度联合做的不就是这种类型的东西么
我就不懂印度软件为何这么好?殖民后的英语底子?人多?还是。。。。
差距很大啊,怎么体制党MD愤青都不见了
哈哈哈……

昨天同学告知这个比赛结果消息前就预感这会是和当初大家普遍认知的结果没差多少滴。

另外插句话,乌克兰在数学和计算机基础理论方面还是可圈可点的。
cxzizou 发表于 2009-6-9 20:45
请问东欧强的根源是什么?
6626626 发表于 2009-6-9 22:14
函数内部的算法还是需要相当精巧的设计吧?
LZ就不能给A3的粉丝留一点面子?
为啥日韩台都没人参赛??
4# caisanchun


这家伙好像不是华人吧,文章说他来自中国阿
本来就是中国学生代表中国参赛的嘛
我看这个基础还是数学

A3做的就是工人,不过是数据工人

话说这个社会分工真是太细了啊
liangkangping 发表于 2009-6-10 00:38
我觉得还是数学强悍吧,我们学校的信息与计算科学是放在数学系下面的。。而这个专业是计算机专业。我们在大一的时候感觉好奇怪,但是到了大三,自己做程序的时候就知道计算机编程语言是简单的,计算逻辑是复杂的。特别是结合自己专业的公式编程那要强悍的数学功底的,不然你的程序就会冗长。
   
  先学数学、再学计算机,显然基础功底会扎实很多、逻辑思维也缜密些。

   

请问东欧强的根源是什么?
liangkangping 发表于 2009-6-10 00:38


应该是根源就很强吧!
东欧的大学传统也是很早就有了,所以当俄国出怪物的时候,指望东欧保持沉默不太容易。个人以为,一个国家的数学界保持高水平,总有在正确位置正确时间出现的领军人物,还是和学界的传统有关。从对人才的发现,到对丑小鸭的容忍,甚至包括自学龄前起就不断挑逗数学兴趣的广覆盖机制,宅有时也非常非常重要。另外,如果能做到个人不因多学了某些而陡然变得自大和不接受自己不知道的想法,也许会让更多学习的后进者感觉上好很多,有动力的多(虽然是我的好朋友,但是那种自以为在出名导师门下求学就高人一等,讨论问题趾高气昂,动不动就批评别人,其实思维非常匮乏还抵死不承认的品行,让人深恶痛绝,这种人纯粹就是浪费研究生名额)。
个人还以为,仅仅在数学和逻辑思维能力方面,种族间的差异,个体间的差异是确实存在的。东欧也是斯拉夫人,和俄国人一个种。
请问东欧强的根源是什么?
liangkangping 发表于 2009-6-10 00:38


应该是根源就很强吧!
东欧的大学传统也是很早就有了,所以当俄国出怪物的时候,指望东欧保持沉默不太容易。个人以为,一个国家的数学界保持高水平,总有在正确位置正确时间出现的领军人物,还是和学界的传统有关。从对人才的发现,到对丑小鸭的容忍,甚至包括自学龄前起就不断挑逗数学兴趣的广覆盖机制,宅有时也非常非常重要。另外,如果能做到个人不因多学了某些而陡然变得自大和不接受自己不知道的想法,也许会让更多学习的后进者感觉上好很多,有动力的多(虽然是我的好朋友,但是那种自以为在出名导师门下求学就高人一等,讨论问题趾高气昂,动不动就批评别人,其实思维非常匮乏还抵死不承认的品行,让人深恶痛绝,这种人纯粹就是浪费研究生名额)。
个人还以为,仅仅在数学和逻辑思维能力方面,种族间的差异,个体间的差异是确实存在的。东欧也是斯拉夫人,和俄国人一个种。
  
  东欧的捷克、斯洛伐克、波兰是西斯拉夫人吧,俄罗斯、白俄罗斯、乌克兰是东斯拉夫人,塞尔维亚、克罗地亚、保加利亚、斯洛文尼亚、马其顿等是南斯拉夫人。

  传统上文化差别还是很大的...
  
  
阿三真丢人  700多人参加比赛 进决赛的一个都没   中国800多人 进了20个  俄罗斯10  美国2

印度还好意思号称什么软件大国  世界办公室  我呸{:3_77:}

贪污腐败比中国厉害的多  文盲超多 人均寿命比中国少10多年  9成包办婚姻
还敢号称世界最大民主国家 真是不要脸
伟大的无比光荣的民主的神牛浮尸阿三哥紧随其后,派出了705个咖喱超人,可惜无一人进入最后决赛!!!罗刹出了380人;美国234人;大波波214人;埃及145人,乌克兰128人。

参赛选手中,93%雄性,84%年龄在18到24岁之间。

Topcoder的大统领Rob Hughes表示,来自中国、俄罗斯、东欧等地选手如此彪悍的战绩说明了在这些地方数学和科学教育是灰常灰常的受重视的。

“我们的教育成果过于头脑简单,四肢发达啦。”Hughes抱怨道。他说美国应该尽早在初中和高中加大对数学和科学的教育。

Hughes不是一个人在战斗,此刻奥巴马、比尔盖茨灵魂附体!!

所有参赛选手中,超过57%具有本科学历,大部分是计算机专业。20%有硕士学位,6%是博士。

但是这些人都是废柴!算法比赛的冠军是一位来自中国的18岁学生,Bin Jin,网名crazyb0y。中国人在该项比赛中一直是大大的厉害。

TopCoder的CTO,Mike Lydon说:“在计算机的世界里,对Bin来说已经是没有什么是不可能的了。”



下面翻译的意义不大了,允许我偷个懒吧
这个也太NB了,算法拿第一。。。BT。。。还18。。。Y的数学怎么学的。。。
可惜这些人才估计大部分都会出国
娱乐版有中文贴
江苏省常州高级中学高三(13)班学生金斌,在美国当地时间6月4日下午举行的Topcoder Open (简称TCO)Algorithm(算法)冠军争夺战中,击败各路好手,一举夺得世界冠军。这是继他今年一月夺得Topcoder High School(简称TCHS,即高中生比赛)世界冠军后,一年内取得的第二个Topcoder系列赛冠军。金斌是进入现场比赛的唯一的高中生,也是参加最终决赛的唯一一名中国选手,同时也成为了历史上第一个一年内取得TCHS和TCO两项冠军的选手和历史上最年轻的世界冠军。

对于算法类程序设计竞赛,被全世界广泛公认的有3项大赛,分别是于1989年创办,代表了高中生学科竞赛最高荣誉的IOI(International Olympiad in Informatics,国际信息学奥林匹克竞赛);由美国Topcoder公司从2001年开始举办,在个人程序设计竞赛中最具权威的Topcoder Algorithm比赛(TCO是这项系列赛的年度总决赛);以及于1970年创办的,在团队程序设计竞赛中最具权威的ACM/ICPC(国际大学生程序设计竞赛)。参加TCO比赛的选手有许多都是ACM世界冠军队成员,或者是IOI的金牌获得者,可以说都是计算机程序设计竞赛领域的精英人士。

TCO的比赛分为网络淘汰赛和现场赛两个部分。通过了5轮竞争激烈的网络淘汰赛,金斌从全世界五千多名优秀选手(他们几乎都毕业或正就读于世界著名大学)中脱颖而出,进入了世界前18位,从而获得了赴美国拉斯维加斯参加TCO现场比赛的机会。与金斌一起代表中国参加现场比赛的还有来自清华大学的俞华程与楼天城,而金斌是这18人中唯一的高中生。
现场比赛分为半决赛和决赛两个部分。在半决赛中,金斌发挥稳定,以半决赛第7名的成绩(现场决赛只有8个名额),成为唯一进入现场赛决赛的中国选手。

此时与金斌对抗的,大都是身披无数荣誉的大学生,甚至是职业程序员。超过57%的参赛者具有学士学位,其中大部分为计算机专业,20%为硕士学历,6%拥有博士学位。在决赛中,面对Topcoder Algorithm的世界第一、三届TCO冠军的Petr(来自Moscow State Univ,曾率队两获ACM世界亚军);ACM世界冠军队成员WiNGeR(来自St.Pertersburg Univ. IFMO)、Marek(来自Warsaw Univ.);来自加拿大的职业程序员Snapdragon(topcoder排名第6);来自俄罗斯Novosibirsk State Univ的syg96;来自挪威的Im2Good和来自阿根廷的lucasr等世界顶尖高手,金斌发挥非常出色,凭借成功的解题策略,最终取得了梦幻般的胜利——他也成为了历史上第一个一年内取得TCHS和TCO两项冠军的选手和历史上最年轻的世界冠军。现场赛的出色表现也让金斌在Topcoder的排名进入了世界前十——可以说创造了一个奇迹。

初中毕业于常州外国语学校的金斌从小对信息学就情有独钟,曾屡获全国信息学奥林匹克竞赛江苏赛区一等奖,2008年入选国家集训队,在最终选拔时遗憾地与国家队擦肩而过。他从高一开始接触Topcoder比赛,虽说一开始默默无闻,但在一年的时间内靠自己不懈而刻苦的努力在中国排进了前十名,超过了许多比他年长的信息学奥林匹克中国国家队成员和很多IOI金牌选手,成为了Topcoder Algorithm中冉冉升起的新星。凭借自己聪颖的天资和勤勉的训练,他的实力与日俱增。本次在TCO中取得世界冠军,无疑是对他几年来默默付出的肯定。“这个第一名远比国际信息学奥林匹克竞赛金牌分量重,成色足!”省常中金牌教练曹文评价说。TopCoder的首席技术官Mike Lydon则称赞金斌在计算机方面的前途不可限量:“这个男孩可以完成任何他想做的事。”

金斌本次夺冠,让世界看到了他的能力与潜质,为省常中信息学竞赛画上了浓墨重彩的一笔,更为国家争得了荣誉。而此时正是我国一年一度的高考,金斌却早在一年前就同时取得了清华大学和上海交大的保送资格,他最终选择了更适合自己的交大。

金斌夺冠后谦虚地说:“我的不断进步,完全得益于省常中信息学竞赛的优秀团队。尤其要感谢曹文老师,这几年来,他不仅殚精竭虑对我进行辅导和训练,而且在生活上也给予我无微不至的关怀,更为我设计终身发展的道路和方向,即使在落选信息学奥林匹克国家队后也没有对我失望,反而鼓励我不要气馁,要在TCO比赛中努力证明自己,这次成绩的获得,也算是对曹老师这些年为我辛勤付出的最好回报。我非常幸运能在这么好的环境和团队中不断提高自己。我希望能够用自己的努力为这个团队多做点事,也希望能用自己的进步不让关心我的人失望。”
小伙子现场发挥很好。像这类的算法类天才应该倾向到编译器,操作系统,大规模系统支撑软件,通信协议算法实现,雷达与导弹对抗,大规模飞控系统,航天航空测量与追踪,人工智能等这些领域去。小伙子保送到上海交大,估计4年后还是去美国了。关键是4年里,如果有名师能够悉心指点,选准一个好的突破口深入下去,未来大有希望,否则可能昙花一现。
不过上交大的计算机系很可能毁了他。
找个翻译贴就不错
个人感觉国家应该建立起类似人才的档案库。好好培养和利用。
超大123 发表于 2009-6-11 18:33   中国确实缺少系统的人才发展计划啊。

  你说那些足球俱乐部甚至国家队都知道从十几岁的少年开始挖人呢。