超级军网印度的核潜艇不是快造好了吗？最近有消息吗？
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前些日子有帖子说印度的3艘核潜艇年内造好，现在进度怎么样了？有消息吗？
还有借着这个帖子问一下，http://bbs.cjdby.net/viewthread.php?tid=605498&extra=page%3D1
这个帖子里面说112 113陷于lm2500零配件问题已经快跑不动了，是真的假的？
前些日子有帖子说印度的3艘核潜艇年内造好，现在进度怎么样了？有消息吗？
还有借着这个帖子问一下，http://bbs.cjdby.net/viewthread.php?tid=605498&extra=page%3D1
这个帖子里面说112 113陷于lm2500零配件问题已经快跑不动了，是真的假的？
2007年的消息。当时是说07年就开始海面测试
India on a nuclear super-highway
India is set to launch its first nuclear submarine later this year which if successful will put the country in an extremely exclusive club of hi-tech defense powered nation..
CJ: Devarshi Upadhyay, 22 Mar 2007 Views:21097 Comments:14
Currently Indian defense system only has few battery operated submarines, that are way back in technology as compared to the nuclear once. The last time the Indian Navy operated a nuclear submarine was in the late 1980s, when it leased a Russian Charlie class vessel.
The project codenamed the Advanced Technology Vessel (ATV) has been crawling since 1974. Now what does ATV actually mean?
The nuclear haves are increasingly relying on sea-based nuclear deterrence in preference to land and air segments. India has a number of foreign-produced cruise missile systems in its arsenal, to include Exocet, Styx, Starbright, Sea Eagle, and perhaps the Russian Sunburn supersonic missile. It also has some indigenous cruise missile systems under development to include the Sagarika and Lakshya variant.
The Sagarika (Oceanic) began development in 1994 as a submarine-launched cruise missile (SLCM) which will have a range of at least 300 kms (a few claim 1000 kms); it was projected for deployment around 2005. The program has met with considerable delays and the missile is not expected to become operational before 2010. It will probably arm India’s nuclear submarine, the Advanced Technology Vessel (ATV).
India is a nation that fights for entering the select group of countries that build nuclear powered submarines. Even after three decades it still had not presented results that could modify the current picture of the navies with nuclear propulsion. India has been working actively since 1985 to develop an indigenously constructed nuclear-powered submarine, one that was based on the Soviet Charlie II-class design, detailed drawings of which are said to have been obtained from the Soviet Union in 1989. This project illustrates India’s industrial capabilities and weaknesses. The secretive Advanced Technology Vessel (ATV) project to provide nuclear propulsion for Indian submarines has been one of the more ill-managed projects of India.
Although India has the capability of building the hull and developing or acquiring the necessary sensors, its industry has been stymied by several system integration and fabrication problems in trying to downsize a 190 MW pressurized water reactor (PWR) to fit into the space available within the submarine’s hull. Reports now indicate that India has overcome the biggest problem or miniaturisation of a nuclear power plant that is to be mounted on a submarine hull. The Proto-type Testing Centre (PTC) at the Indira Gandhi Centre For Atomic Research, Kalpakkam, was used to test the submarine’s turbines and propellers. A similar facility is operational at Vishakhapatnam to test the main turbines and gear box.
According to some accounts India planned to have as many as five nuclear submarines capable of carrying missiles with nuclear warheads. The Indian nuclear powered attack submarine design is said to have a 4,000-ton displacement and a single-shaft nuclear power plant of Indian origin. Once the vessel is fully completed, it may be equipped with Danush/Sagarika cruise missiles and an advanced sonar system. However, according to some analysts the most probable missile for the Indian submarine would be the Yahont anti-ship cruise missile designed by NPO Mashinostroyeniya.
In 2004 it was reported that the first ATV would be launched by 2007. At that time it was reported that it would be an SSGN and displacing some 6,500 tons, with a design derivative of Russia’s Project 885 Severodvinsk-class (Yasen) SSN. The ATV multirole platform would be employed for carrying out long-distance interdiction and surveillance of both submerged targets as well as principal surface combatants. It would also facilitate Special Forces operations by covertly landing such forces ashore. The ATV pressure hull will be fabricated with the HY-80 steel obtained from Russia.
This way it would have the possibility of multiple performance: it could use missiles of cruise of average reach (1,000 km), ballistic missiles of short reach (300 km), torpedoes and mines, besides participating of operations special. The vessel displaces 6,500 tonnes and can stay submerged for upto 100 days. Armed with guided missiles, it can carry a crew of 70 people. India is also in negotiations to acquire two Russian-made nuclear submarines of the Akula class.
If this is successfully achieved, then it would be valid to assume that the Indian Fleet will count on four to six of these submarines until the year of 2020.
India on a nuclear super-highway
India is set to launch its first nuclear submarine later this year which if successful will put the country in an extremely exclusive club of hi-tech defense powered nation..
CJ: Devarshi Upadhyay, 22 Mar 2007 Views:21097 Comments:14
Currently Indian defense system only has few battery operated submarines, that are way back in technology as compared to the nuclear once. The last time the Indian Navy operated a nuclear submarine was in the late 1980s, when it leased a Russian Charlie class vessel.
The project codenamed the Advanced Technology Vessel (ATV) has been crawling since 1974. Now what does ATV actually mean?
The nuclear haves are increasingly relying on sea-based nuclear deterrence in preference to land and air segments. India has a number of foreign-produced cruise missile systems in its arsenal, to include Exocet, Styx, Starbright, Sea Eagle, and perhaps the Russian Sunburn supersonic missile. It also has some indigenous cruise missile systems under development to include the Sagarika and Lakshya variant.
The Sagarika (Oceanic) began development in 1994 as a submarine-launched cruise missile (SLCM) which will have a range of at least 300 kms (a few claim 1000 kms); it was projected for deployment around 2005. The program has met with considerable delays and the missile is not expected to become operational before 2010. It will probably arm India’s nuclear submarine, the Advanced Technology Vessel (ATV).
India is a nation that fights for entering the select group of countries that build nuclear powered submarines. Even after three decades it still had not presented results that could modify the current picture of the navies with nuclear propulsion. India has been working actively since 1985 to develop an indigenously constructed nuclear-powered submarine, one that was based on the Soviet Charlie II-class design, detailed drawings of which are said to have been obtained from the Soviet Union in 1989. This project illustrates India’s industrial capabilities and weaknesses. The secretive Advanced Technology Vessel (ATV) project to provide nuclear propulsion for Indian submarines has been one of the more ill-managed projects of India.
Although India has the capability of building the hull and developing or acquiring the necessary sensors, its industry has been stymied by several system integration and fabrication problems in trying to downsize a 190 MW pressurized water reactor (PWR) to fit into the space available within the submarine’s hull. Reports now indicate that India has overcome the biggest problem or miniaturisation of a nuclear power plant that is to be mounted on a submarine hull. The Proto-type Testing Centre (PTC) at the Indira Gandhi Centre For Atomic Research, Kalpakkam, was used to test the submarine’s turbines and propellers. A similar facility is operational at Vishakhapatnam to test the main turbines and gear box.
According to some accounts India planned to have as many as five nuclear submarines capable of carrying missiles with nuclear warheads. The Indian nuclear powered attack submarine design is said to have a 4,000-ton displacement and a single-shaft nuclear power plant of Indian origin. Once the vessel is fully completed, it may be equipped with Danush/Sagarika cruise missiles and an advanced sonar system. However, according to some analysts the most probable missile for the Indian submarine would be the Yahont anti-ship cruise missile designed by NPO Mashinostroyeniya.
In 2004 it was reported that the first ATV would be launched by 2007. At that time it was reported that it would be an SSGN and displacing some 6,500 tons, with a design derivative of Russia’s Project 885 Severodvinsk-class (Yasen) SSN. The ATV multirole platform would be employed for carrying out long-distance interdiction and surveillance of both submerged targets as well as principal surface combatants. It would also facilitate Special Forces operations by covertly landing such forces ashore. The ATV pressure hull will be fabricated with the HY-80 steel obtained from Russia.
This way it would have the possibility of multiple performance: it could use missiles of cruise of average reach (1,000 km), ballistic missiles of short reach (300 km), torpedoes and mines, besides participating of operations special. The vessel displaces 6,500 tonnes and can stay submerged for upto 100 days. Armed with guided missiles, it can carry a crew of 70 people. India is also in negotiations to acquire two Russian-made nuclear submarines of the Akula class.
If this is successfully achieved, then it would be valid to assume that the Indian Fleet will count on four to six of these submarines until the year of 2020.
到了2007年底，消息传来变成今年年内测试了。
India eyes nuclear submarine trials by 2009
Mon Dec 3, 2007 9:39pm IST
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MUMBAI (Reuters) - India will be ready to test its first domestically built nuclear-powered submarine at sea by 2009, its navy chief said on Monday.
A long-running secret project, India's nuclear-powered submarine is said to be a 5,000-tonne modified version of the Russian Charlie-II class vessel.
Code-named "the Advanced Technology Vessel", the submarine will be capable of launching nuclear-tipped ballistic missiles and give India's navy an advantage over nuclear rival Pakistan.
"Scientists have confirmed that they (will) have the project ready for trials by 2009," the Press Trust of India quoted Admiral Sureesh Mehta as saying.
With about 140 ships in its fleet and dozens of new frigates and French Scorpene submarines to be delivered soon, India's navy is increasing its capabilities.
India leased for three years a nuclear-powered submarine from the former Soviet Union in 1988, and Mehta said there were plans for another similar agreement with Russia.
"We want the Russian nuclear submarine to enable our boys to train on how to operate nuclear reactors and platforms and other systems," he said.
Keeping pace with its new economic powerhouse image, India's military, the world's fourth largest, is on a modernising spree, trying to project power beyond its shores.
It is building a domestically-produced aircraft carrier and is also buying one from Russia.
India eyes nuclear submarine trials by 2009
Mon Dec 3, 2007 9:39pm IST
Email | Print |
MUMBAI (Reuters) - India will be ready to test its first domestically built nuclear-powered submarine at sea by 2009, its navy chief said on Monday.
A long-running secret project, India's nuclear-powered submarine is said to be a 5,000-tonne modified version of the Russian Charlie-II class vessel.
Code-named "the Advanced Technology Vessel", the submarine will be capable of launching nuclear-tipped ballistic missiles and give India's navy an advantage over nuclear rival Pakistan.
"Scientists have confirmed that they (will) have the project ready for trials by 2009," the Press Trust of India quoted Admiral Sureesh Mehta as saying.
With about 140 ships in its fleet and dozens of new frigates and French Scorpene submarines to be delivered soon, India's navy is increasing its capabilities.
India leased for three years a nuclear-powered submarine from the former Soviet Union in 1988, and Mehta said there were plans for another similar agreement with Russia.
"We want the Russian nuclear submarine to enable our boys to train on how to operate nuclear reactors and platforms and other systems," he said.
Keeping pace with its new economic powerhouse image, India's military, the world's fourth largest, is on a modernising spree, trying to project power beyond its shores.
It is building a domestically-produced aircraft carrier and is also buying one from Russia.
估计金融危机没钱钱买装备了 歇菜了吧;P
在水下长航，你看不见的。:D
还不如直接买毛子的
三哥的实力、德性人所共知，LZ打脸党乎？ :D
1# 看看而已
LZ啊:curse: 113是用LM2500的吗？
还有，貌似那话是你自己说的，而且还没有确切的出处;P
LZ啊:curse: 113是用LM2500的吗？
还有，貌似那话是你自己说的，而且还没有确切的出处;P
不好意思我搞错了，是这个帖子里面的http://bbs.cjdby.net/viewthread.php?tid=605498&extra=page%3D1
2010年能露面，就算阿三涨能耐了。。
总之是今年说明年怎样，到了明年又说是后年如何，至今影都没见一个，都是在嘴上已经下水了，看12年阿三的国产航母如何下水吧
11# lwggwl
偶对阿三没兴趣，倒是１１２舰跑不动这事到底从哪儿传出来的，可信否？
偶对阿三没兴趣，倒是１１２舰跑不动这事到底从哪儿传出来的，可信否？
好象老张在一次节目中调侃着说：2010年能下水就不错了，2015年能服役就很快了;P
好象老张在一次节目中调侃着说：2010年能下水就不错了，2015年能服役就很快了;P
我赌2019年今天.
F22老大！三哥也不容易啊！给点鼓励吧！2019能成吗;P
怎么会事？？？你们又开始打击3哥了~~~ 是ATV吗？不要小看3哥 人家的ATV各方面指标都是世界领先的！虽然没有正面说强过米帝的SSN，但是从个方面指标来看 最少要领先 海狼 10年以上！！！```;P
鼓励下，，2019年，成事
明日复明日
明日何其多
明日何其多
等个10来年，就能看到了~~
A3的核潜艇？？
LZ的名字借用了……
LZ的名字借用了……
f22 发表于 2009-4-11 16:19 
呵呵，老大都发话了，估计也大差不差了。
呵呵，老大都发话了，估计也大差不差了。
王海涛 发表于 2009-4-11 15:59
http://bbs.cjdby.net/viewthread.php?tid=605498&extra=page%3D1
这个帖子的楼主说的
http://bbs.cjdby.net/viewthread.php?tid=605498&extra=page%3D1
这个帖子的楼主说的
元始天魔 发表于 2009-4-11 14:02
谁都不许欺负三哥！！！{:3_90:}
谁都不许欺负三哥！！！{:3_90:}
发动每人贡献阿三一两油，为三哥加油
:b三哥的。一定是明年8月上船台:b
听三哥的话，要像看动漫：认真你就输{:3_92:}
问一下，阿三建过常规潜艇吗？
Simon0327 发表于 2009-4-11 20:07
攒过，散件组装...
攒过，散件组装...
最近几年下水是没问题的。
鳖三造核潜艇？！:L抹点神油就快了;P
呵呵，阿三的话也能信？不知道阿三的计划向来眼高于顶的么
太搞了，A3连常规潜艇都没自己设计建造过就直接上核潜艇了，这不是走还没会就开跑吗？神油也不能这么摸吧。。。
ＣＤ以技术见长，我就不纠缠阿三那些破计划和口号了。现在，只希望能搞明白几个信息：
１、阿三建造中的核潜艇是ＳＳＢＮ，还是ＳＳＮ？
２、潜艇的主要设计方案是阿三自己做的吗？参考蓝本是谁？
３、动力如何解决的，小型化核反应堆是进口货还是自产的？蒸汽轮机和辅助电机呢？
４、艇用超高强度钢是什么型号，哪里生产的？最大潜深和航速是多少（以阿三宣称的数据为准吧）？
５、用哪些武器，假想敌是谁？
我想，要是能基本弄清楚这几个大问题的话，楼主和我等小菜也就没什么可说的了。
１、阿三建造中的核潜艇是ＳＳＢＮ，还是ＳＳＮ？
２、潜艇的主要设计方案是阿三自己做的吗？参考蓝本是谁？
３、动力如何解决的，小型化核反应堆是进口货还是自产的？蒸汽轮机和辅助电机呢？
４、艇用超高强度钢是什么型号，哪里生产的？最大潜深和航速是多少（以阿三宣称的数据为准吧）？
５、用哪些武器，假想敌是谁？
我想，要是能基本弄清楚这几个大问题的话，楼主和我等小菜也就没什么可说的了。
王海涛 发表于 2009-4-12 00:50
猜的：
1、SSN，可能性90%
2、参考老毛子的，或者是老毛子提供技术支持，可能性85%
3、反应堆，除了不能买到的，估计都是买的或者是老毛子提供“支持”的，可能性70%
4、钢，主体为买，少量部件为自造，可能性90%
5、假想敌为中国，可能性95%
猜的：
1、SSN，可能性90%
2、参考老毛子的，或者是老毛子提供技术支持，可能性85%
3、反应堆，除了不能买到的，估计都是买的或者是老毛子提供“支持”的，可能性70%
4、钢，主体为买，少量部件为自造，可能性90%
5、假想敌为中国，可能性95%
年年说的都差不多
年年说的都差不多
年年说的都差不多！
三哥造核艇都快三十几年了吧.:L
LZ乃这是打三哥滴脸，不带这样滴{:3_98:}
{:3_97:}估计在印度的军事论坛里常年流传着《核潜艇今年8月上船台》的帖子吧