超级军网A3与AH-64D不得不说的故事。
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Source: DEFPRO
New tender gives Boeing's AH-64D Apache a second chance.
09:31 GMT, March 25, 2009 defpro.com | The Indian Ministry of Defence yesterday confirmed the rumors that it has scraped the tender for 22 attack helicopters. According to the Indian Defence Ministry spokesman the tender had to be canceled since the remaining three companies still participating in the tender were unable to meet the military’s requirement.
"The Request for Proposals (RFP) for the 22 attack helicopters have been retracted and cancelled, as the three offers received from foreign defence companies did not meet the Staff Qualitative Requirements set by the government,” the spokesman said.
In May 2008, New Delhi has begun a competition to procure 22 attack helicopters for its air force. The aircraft are intended to replace the ageing Mil Mi-25 and Mi-35 fleets.
India requested a 2.5 tonne twin-engined copter with all-weather and terrain ability. The new copter should also be highly manoeuvrable and able to deploy 20mm turret guns, rockets, air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles. The new attack helicopter should also be able to employ air-to-ground, fire-and-forget missiles with a range of at least seven kilometers. Beyond that it should be equipped with anti-armour capabilities and be capable of operating at high altitudes such as in the Kashmir's mountain borders with Pakistan with day-and-night operations capabilities.
With a unit price of $25 million (including armament and equipment), the first two helicopters were intended to be delivered within two years after contract signing with the final copter delivered within 36 months.
Initially seven companies participated the tender with their products: AgustaWestland’s AW129, Bell’s AH-1Z SuperCobra, Boeing’s AH-64D Apache Longbow, Eurocopter’s Tiger HAD, Kamov’s Ka-50, Mil’s Mi-28 NE and the national Hindustan Aeronautics’s Light Combat Helicopter. However, at the final stage only three companies (AgustaWestland, Eurocopter and Mil) left over while the US companies as quit the race.
Bell, a unit of Textron withdrew its participation since the AH-1Z Cobra is not in production anymore and thus only available through government-to-government Foreign Military Sales (FMS) deals based on the conversion of existing airframes.
Boeing decided to refuse to submit a proposal for the Apache since their request for an eight-week extension to the last August deadline has not been heeded. The extension was needed to submit a proposal which meets all the requirements of the Indian Air Force (IAF).
The MoD spokesman said that a new tender will be announced soon since the air force aims to modernising the service by the middle of the next decade. However the IAF’s plans to begin with the deployment of the new attack helicopters by 2010 could now be delayed.
Other tenders such as the $1.5 billion tender for 384 light utility helicopters are not affected by this cancelation. The attack helicopters are only one part of New Delhi’s overall plan to replace the military helicopter fleet for combat, reconnaissance and surveillance, and naval missions. The entire demand is estimated to be around 400 to 500 aircraft.
As it is often the case with the ups and downs of Indian defence procurement, the MoD’s announcement has left observers and analysts completely mystified and unable to formulate a logical explanation.
For the Indian MoD to maintain that the three combat helicopters in the final shortlist do not meet their qualitative requirements would effectively imply that these requirements were either unrealistic, or rather tailored for a specific model that however did not made it to the shortlist. Indeed, the only in-service helicopter-launched missile in the world that would offer a range of at least 7km with a fire-and-forget mode is the AGM-114L Longbow Hellfire that equips the AH-64D Longbow Apache. Thus, an educated guess would be that the Indian military was not very happy with the AH-64D having fallen out of the competition. The move to cancel the ongoing process and announce a renewed procurement effort in the near future is clearly intended to offer Boeing a second chance, and the outcome of any new “competition” is already clear.
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More or less shows how interested the Indians were/are in the Longbow. Would be fantastic to see Indian Army Longbows in some sort of interesting camo. The Apache's with new engines have good high altitude capability as demonstrated in Afghanistan..that may explain the IA's interest in the Apache.
AgustaWestland’s AW129, Bell’s AH-1Z SuperCobra, Boeing’s AH-64D Apache Longbow, Eurocopter’s Tiger HAD, Kamov’s Ka-50, Mil’s Mi-28 NE and the national Hindustan Aeronautics’s Light Combat Helicopter.
看来A3有机会弄到AH-64D了？Source: DEFPRO
New tender gives Boeing's AH-64D Apache a second chance.
09:31 GMT, March 25, 2009 defpro.com | The Indian Ministry of Defence yesterday confirmed the rumors that it has scraped the tender for 22 attack helicopters. According to the Indian Defence Ministry spokesman the tender had to be canceled since the remaining three companies still participating in the tender were unable to meet the military’s requirement.
"The Request for Proposals (RFP) for the 22 attack helicopters have been retracted and cancelled, as the three offers received from foreign defence companies did not meet the Staff Qualitative Requirements set by the government,” the spokesman said.
In May 2008, New Delhi has begun a competition to procure 22 attack helicopters for its air force. The aircraft are intended to replace the ageing Mil Mi-25 and Mi-35 fleets.
India requested a 2.5 tonne twin-engined copter with all-weather and terrain ability. The new copter should also be highly manoeuvrable and able to deploy 20mm turret guns, rockets, air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles. The new attack helicopter should also be able to employ air-to-ground, fire-and-forget missiles with a range of at least seven kilometers. Beyond that it should be equipped with anti-armour capabilities and be capable of operating at high altitudes such as in the Kashmir's mountain borders with Pakistan with day-and-night operations capabilities.
With a unit price of $25 million (including armament and equipment), the first two helicopters were intended to be delivered within two years after contract signing with the final copter delivered within 36 months.
Initially seven companies participated the tender with their products: AgustaWestland’s AW129, Bell’s AH-1Z SuperCobra, Boeing’s AH-64D Apache Longbow, Eurocopter’s Tiger HAD, Kamov’s Ka-50, Mil’s Mi-28 NE and the national Hindustan Aeronautics’s Light Combat Helicopter. However, at the final stage only three companies (AgustaWestland, Eurocopter and Mil) left over while the US companies as quit the race.
Bell, a unit of Textron withdrew its participation since the AH-1Z Cobra is not in production anymore and thus only available through government-to-government Foreign Military Sales (FMS) deals based on the conversion of existing airframes.
Boeing decided to refuse to submit a proposal for the Apache since their request for an eight-week extension to the last August deadline has not been heeded. The extension was needed to submit a proposal which meets all the requirements of the Indian Air Force (IAF).
The MoD spokesman said that a new tender will be announced soon since the air force aims to modernising the service by the middle of the next decade. However the IAF’s plans to begin with the deployment of the new attack helicopters by 2010 could now be delayed.
Other tenders such as the $1.5 billion tender for 384 light utility helicopters are not affected by this cancelation. The attack helicopters are only one part of New Delhi’s overall plan to replace the military helicopter fleet for combat, reconnaissance and surveillance, and naval missions. The entire demand is estimated to be around 400 to 500 aircraft.
As it is often the case with the ups and downs of Indian defence procurement, the MoD’s announcement has left observers and analysts completely mystified and unable to formulate a logical explanation.
For the Indian MoD to maintain that the three combat helicopters in the final shortlist do not meet their qualitative requirements would effectively imply that these requirements were either unrealistic, or rather tailored for a specific model that however did not made it to the shortlist. Indeed, the only in-service helicopter-launched missile in the world that would offer a range of at least 7km with a fire-and-forget mode is the AGM-114L Longbow Hellfire that equips the AH-64D Longbow Apache. Thus, an educated guess would be that the Indian military was not very happy with the AH-64D having fallen out of the competition. The move to cancel the ongoing process and announce a renewed procurement effort in the near future is clearly intended to offer Boeing a second chance, and the outcome of any new “competition” is already clear.
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More or less shows how interested the Indians were/are in the Longbow. Would be fantastic to see Indian Army Longbows in some sort of interesting camo. The Apache's with new engines have good high altitude capability as demonstrated in Afghanistan..that may explain the IA's interest in the Apache.
AgustaWestland’s AW129, Bell’s AH-1Z SuperCobra, Boeing’s AH-64D Apache Longbow, Eurocopter’s Tiger HAD, Kamov’s Ka-50, Mil’s Mi-28 NE and the national Hindustan Aeronautics’s Light Combat Helicopter.
看来A3有机会弄到AH-64D了？
New tender gives Boeing's AH-64D Apache a second chance.
09:31 GMT, March 25, 2009 defpro.com | The Indian Ministry of Defence yesterday confirmed the rumors that it has scraped the tender for 22 attack helicopters. According to the Indian Defence Ministry spokesman the tender had to be canceled since the remaining three companies still participating in the tender were unable to meet the military’s requirement.
"The Request for Proposals (RFP) for the 22 attack helicopters have been retracted and cancelled, as the three offers received from foreign defence companies did not meet the Staff Qualitative Requirements set by the government,” the spokesman said.
In May 2008, New Delhi has begun a competition to procure 22 attack helicopters for its air force. The aircraft are intended to replace the ageing Mil Mi-25 and Mi-35 fleets.
India requested a 2.5 tonne twin-engined copter with all-weather and terrain ability. The new copter should also be highly manoeuvrable and able to deploy 20mm turret guns, rockets, air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles. The new attack helicopter should also be able to employ air-to-ground, fire-and-forget missiles with a range of at least seven kilometers. Beyond that it should be equipped with anti-armour capabilities and be capable of operating at high altitudes such as in the Kashmir's mountain borders with Pakistan with day-and-night operations capabilities.
With a unit price of $25 million (including armament and equipment), the first two helicopters were intended to be delivered within two years after contract signing with the final copter delivered within 36 months.
Initially seven companies participated the tender with their products: AgustaWestland’s AW129, Bell’s AH-1Z SuperCobra, Boeing’s AH-64D Apache Longbow, Eurocopter’s Tiger HAD, Kamov’s Ka-50, Mil’s Mi-28 NE and the national Hindustan Aeronautics’s Light Combat Helicopter. However, at the final stage only three companies (AgustaWestland, Eurocopter and Mil) left over while the US companies as quit the race.
Bell, a unit of Textron withdrew its participation since the AH-1Z Cobra is not in production anymore and thus only available through government-to-government Foreign Military Sales (FMS) deals based on the conversion of existing airframes.
Boeing decided to refuse to submit a proposal for the Apache since their request for an eight-week extension to the last August deadline has not been heeded. The extension was needed to submit a proposal which meets all the requirements of the Indian Air Force (IAF).
The MoD spokesman said that a new tender will be announced soon since the air force aims to modernising the service by the middle of the next decade. However the IAF’s plans to begin with the deployment of the new attack helicopters by 2010 could now be delayed.
Other tenders such as the $1.5 billion tender for 384 light utility helicopters are not affected by this cancelation. The attack helicopters are only one part of New Delhi’s overall plan to replace the military helicopter fleet for combat, reconnaissance and surveillance, and naval missions. The entire demand is estimated to be around 400 to 500 aircraft.
As it is often the case with the ups and downs of Indian defence procurement, the MoD’s announcement has left observers and analysts completely mystified and unable to formulate a logical explanation.
For the Indian MoD to maintain that the three combat helicopters in the final shortlist do not meet their qualitative requirements would effectively imply that these requirements were either unrealistic, or rather tailored for a specific model that however did not made it to the shortlist. Indeed, the only in-service helicopter-launched missile in the world that would offer a range of at least 7km with a fire-and-forget mode is the AGM-114L Longbow Hellfire that equips the AH-64D Longbow Apache. Thus, an educated guess would be that the Indian military was not very happy with the AH-64D having fallen out of the competition. The move to cancel the ongoing process and announce a renewed procurement effort in the near future is clearly intended to offer Boeing a second chance, and the outcome of any new “competition” is already clear.
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More or less shows how interested the Indians were/are in the Longbow. Would be fantastic to see Indian Army Longbows in some sort of interesting camo. The Apache's with new engines have good high altitude capability as demonstrated in Afghanistan..that may explain the IA's interest in the Apache.
AgustaWestland’s AW129, Bell’s AH-1Z SuperCobra, Boeing’s AH-64D Apache Longbow, Eurocopter’s Tiger HAD, Kamov’s Ka-50, Mil’s Mi-28 NE and the national Hindustan Aeronautics’s Light Combat Helicopter.
看来A3有机会弄到AH-64D了？Source: DEFPRO
New tender gives Boeing's AH-64D Apache a second chance.
09:31 GMT, March 25, 2009 defpro.com | The Indian Ministry of Defence yesterday confirmed the rumors that it has scraped the tender for 22 attack helicopters. According to the Indian Defence Ministry spokesman the tender had to be canceled since the remaining three companies still participating in the tender were unable to meet the military’s requirement.
"The Request for Proposals (RFP) for the 22 attack helicopters have been retracted and cancelled, as the three offers received from foreign defence companies did not meet the Staff Qualitative Requirements set by the government,” the spokesman said.
In May 2008, New Delhi has begun a competition to procure 22 attack helicopters for its air force. The aircraft are intended to replace the ageing Mil Mi-25 and Mi-35 fleets.
India requested a 2.5 tonne twin-engined copter with all-weather and terrain ability. The new copter should also be highly manoeuvrable and able to deploy 20mm turret guns, rockets, air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles. The new attack helicopter should also be able to employ air-to-ground, fire-and-forget missiles with a range of at least seven kilometers. Beyond that it should be equipped with anti-armour capabilities and be capable of operating at high altitudes such as in the Kashmir's mountain borders with Pakistan with day-and-night operations capabilities.
With a unit price of $25 million (including armament and equipment), the first two helicopters were intended to be delivered within two years after contract signing with the final copter delivered within 36 months.
Initially seven companies participated the tender with their products: AgustaWestland’s AW129, Bell’s AH-1Z SuperCobra, Boeing’s AH-64D Apache Longbow, Eurocopter’s Tiger HAD, Kamov’s Ka-50, Mil’s Mi-28 NE and the national Hindustan Aeronautics’s Light Combat Helicopter. However, at the final stage only three companies (AgustaWestland, Eurocopter and Mil) left over while the US companies as quit the race.
Bell, a unit of Textron withdrew its participation since the AH-1Z Cobra is not in production anymore and thus only available through government-to-government Foreign Military Sales (FMS) deals based on the conversion of existing airframes.
Boeing decided to refuse to submit a proposal for the Apache since their request for an eight-week extension to the last August deadline has not been heeded. The extension was needed to submit a proposal which meets all the requirements of the Indian Air Force (IAF).
The MoD spokesman said that a new tender will be announced soon since the air force aims to modernising the service by the middle of the next decade. However the IAF’s plans to begin with the deployment of the new attack helicopters by 2010 could now be delayed.
Other tenders such as the $1.5 billion tender for 384 light utility helicopters are not affected by this cancelation. The attack helicopters are only one part of New Delhi’s overall plan to replace the military helicopter fleet for combat, reconnaissance and surveillance, and naval missions. The entire demand is estimated to be around 400 to 500 aircraft.
As it is often the case with the ups and downs of Indian defence procurement, the MoD’s announcement has left observers and analysts completely mystified and unable to formulate a logical explanation.
For the Indian MoD to maintain that the three combat helicopters in the final shortlist do not meet their qualitative requirements would effectively imply that these requirements were either unrealistic, or rather tailored for a specific model that however did not made it to the shortlist. Indeed, the only in-service helicopter-launched missile in the world that would offer a range of at least 7km with a fire-and-forget mode is the AGM-114L Longbow Hellfire that equips the AH-64D Longbow Apache. Thus, an educated guess would be that the Indian military was not very happy with the AH-64D having fallen out of the competition. The move to cancel the ongoing process and announce a renewed procurement effort in the near future is clearly intended to offer Boeing a second chance, and the outcome of any new “competition” is already clear.
**********
More or less shows how interested the Indians were/are in the Longbow. Would be fantastic to see Indian Army Longbows in some sort of interesting camo. The Apache's with new engines have good high altitude capability as demonstrated in Afghanistan..that may explain the IA's interest in the Apache.
AgustaWestland’s AW129, Bell’s AH-1Z SuperCobra, Boeing’s AH-64D Apache Longbow, Eurocopter’s Tiger HAD, Kamov’s Ka-50, Mil’s Mi-28 NE and the national Hindustan Aeronautics’s Light Combat Helicopter.
看来A3有机会弄到AH-64D了？
阿三有钱什么都可以买得到，谁叫他旁边有个中国呢？
这么娇贵的飞机，就怕买得起用不起，花了大价钱买了摆设，黑鹰飞到高原都气喘嘘嘘的，我到不信阿帕奇在5000米的青藏高原上战斗力不打折。
阿三向来是只买贵的不买对的
阅读权限？
就因为AH-64D退出了22架攻击直升机的竞标，阿三干脆连竞标都取消了，典型的既要BIAOZI又要立牌坊，现在三看到老美跟他抛媚眼，是不顾一切的贴了上去，又是P-8I又是阿帕齐，看着吧，那126架战机的合同九成又是波音超级虫的了。又一个WW凯子诞生了;P 三最好不再找毛子，省得毛子老是提价和要挟。同时了断了小巴买美国货的心思。
三弟确实有钱啊