外媒奇文共赏之:Yes, we have no computers, 土*不允许 ...

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Yes, we have no computers
I got a very interesting email from a regular reader of this blog. He lives in Zhengzhou in Henan Province, and recently had an unusual experience trying to buy a computer.

I can't vouch that his experience is the same across China, but it wouldn't surprise me if it were.

The following is his email. I only have removed a few sentences giving his identity:

I have a maddening and interesting story to relate to you. Might be an interesting story for you.

I am a filmmaker. I came to China in 2002 twice making documentaries and a year later came back to stay. I've been teaching and doing my photography for the last five years but not a lot of video. Oh, I've been shooting a lot of video but without a good computer to edit my stuff, I haven't really been doing a lot. A few months ago, I decided to buy a powerful media computer and start producing TV again. I've been looking, deciding the perfect computer for my needs. I've been to the Chinese Lenovo, Sony and Dell websites. I finally decided on a Lenovo workhorse of a computer. Found it on the Chinese Lenovo website. Powerful processor, 1TB hard drive, tons of ram, HD video board and Blue Ray DVD burner. Nice, nice machine...nice price too, 10,000 yuan.

Last month I was back in Dali and chatting with a couple of western filmmakers who also work and live here in China. I told them of my plan to buy a good "power" computer and start doing my thing again. They both laughed and said good luck buying my computer in China. I said I found it on Lenovo's website and I was sure I would have no problem. They went on to tell me it was next to impossible for the average Joe Blow to walk in off the street to the dealer and actually BUY one of those big computers you see online. They told me their experience here was that the government DOES NOT want the public to have these powerful computers. They said I would find I'd have to go home to buy a good Lenovo. Well, I just couldn't believe that.

Well...yesterday I went to Zhengzhou's computer center with 10,000 yuan in my pocket...and found what I had been told in Dali was 100% correct. I spent three hours...went to a dozen stores...Lenovo, HP, Dell, Sony...and found the same thing. I can buy a moderate computer...good for the internet and small chores...but they couldn't even order the big ones that were currently listed on their Chinese websites. If I'm a university or a Communist government office maybe but not me, average Joe Blow.

I went online at the stores and showed the managers (always deal with the managers!) their own company websites and SHOWED them the computer I wanted and the reply was always the same...not available! When I walked in the first Lenovo store (where my school bought all their computers), I showed the salesman my computer printout of the computer I wanted FROM THEIR OWN WEBSITE and he said he could order it for me and have it in a week. I said order it...he walked to the counter and made a phone call. About five minutes later the manager came to me and asked me why I needed such a powerful computer. I told him to do video. He proceded to give me a bunch of excuses why he couldn't get it. Lenovo has several models that will suit my needs...but when we went to Lenovo's website, the manager said ALL those models were "unavailable". Basically the same story at all the stores I went to.

I've been fuming ever since. What really pisses me off is not the computer per se...no, what angers me is for the past five years I have been pretty naive about just how much control this Communist government actually has over the people. I've told my friends and family of the freedom the Chinese people actually have...or what I have PERCEIVED to be freedom. But yesterday was just a small example of one of the many, many little things, little freedoms that the people here are denied. Little things that as an American I just take for granted. All those little freedoms...it's not the big stuff...it's all the little things. I told my Chinese wife that in the states I can walk in the store and walk out in 30 minutes with the actual computer I want. It's just a small thing but rather profound to me. What an eye opener to me to say the least.

Does the government believe I'll use that computer to overthrow Tibet or something???

Anyway...the more I thought about it, thought it might make for a good story.

Thanks.

大意:记者收到一封来自中国的电邮,作者来自郑州是外国人
在中国生活工作几年,想买个配置强大的电脑来处理照片并编辑视频,经过挑选决定选择lenovo官网上的一款配置
cpu强大,1tb硬盘,蓝光刻录光驱,hd video卡,需1w米

当他把想法告诉同在中国的外国友人时,友人大笑,说老百姓不可能买到这么强大的pc,因为government DOES NOT want the public to have these powerful computers.
,土共不允许老百姓使用强大的pc......:')

作者不相信,结果...... 他说他找了n间专卖店,lenovo,sony,dell......居然买不到这款,卖机的居然问他干嘛还这么牛的pc,推荐给他一堆性能差点的......
作者最后发了一堆感慨,freedom freedom freedom 米国人民可以在米国的土地上仅用30分钟买到自己想要的电脑,而在土鳖国......

Does the government believe I'll use that computer to overthrow Tibet or something???

翻译比较简短,大家可以去原网址看

笑死我了 这可以是真的么 难道这就是我们不知道的真相 最后感叹一句:Q :Q

土鳖太强大了http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcb_china/20090321/wl_mcb_china/china200903yeswehavenocomputershtml

Yes, we have no computers
I got a very interesting email from a regular reader of this blog. He lives in Zhengzhou in Henan Province, and recently had an unusual experience trying to buy a computer.

I can't vouch that his experience is the same across China, but it wouldn't surprise me if it were.

The following is his email. I only have removed a few sentences giving his identity:

I have a maddening and interesting story to relate to you. Might be an interesting story for you.

I am a filmmaker. I came to China in 2002 twice making documentaries and a year later came back to stay. I've been teaching and doing my photography for the last five years but not a lot of video. Oh, I've been shooting a lot of video but without a good computer to edit my stuff, I haven't really been doing a lot. A few months ago, I decided to buy a powerful media computer and start producing TV again. I've been looking, deciding the perfect computer for my needs. I've been to the Chinese Lenovo, Sony and Dell websites. I finally decided on a Lenovo workhorse of a computer. Found it on the Chinese Lenovo website. Powerful processor, 1TB hard drive, tons of ram, HD video board and Blue Ray DVD burner. Nice, nice machine...nice price too, 10,000 yuan.

Last month I was back in Dali and chatting with a couple of western filmmakers who also work and live here in China. I told them of my plan to buy a good "power" computer and start doing my thing again. They both laughed and said good luck buying my computer in China. I said I found it on Lenovo's website and I was sure I would have no problem. They went on to tell me it was next to impossible for the average Joe Blow to walk in off the street to the dealer and actually BUY one of those big computers you see online. They told me their experience here was that the government DOES NOT want the public to have these powerful computers. They said I would find I'd have to go home to buy a good Lenovo. Well, I just couldn't believe that.

Well...yesterday I went to Zhengzhou's computer center with 10,000 yuan in my pocket...and found what I had been told in Dali was 100% correct. I spent three hours...went to a dozen stores...Lenovo, HP, Dell, Sony...and found the same thing. I can buy a moderate computer...good for the internet and small chores...but they couldn't even order the big ones that were currently listed on their Chinese websites. If I'm a university or a Communist government office maybe but not me, average Joe Blow.

I went online at the stores and showed the managers (always deal with the managers!) their own company websites and SHOWED them the computer I wanted and the reply was always the same...not available! When I walked in the first Lenovo store (where my school bought all their computers), I showed the salesman my computer printout of the computer I wanted FROM THEIR OWN WEBSITE and he said he could order it for me and have it in a week. I said order it...he walked to the counter and made a phone call. About five minutes later the manager came to me and asked me why I needed such a powerful computer. I told him to do video. He proceded to give me a bunch of excuses why he couldn't get it. Lenovo has several models that will suit my needs...but when we went to Lenovo's website, the manager said ALL those models were "unavailable". Basically the same story at all the stores I went to.

I've been fuming ever since. What really pisses me off is not the computer per se...no, what angers me is for the past five years I have been pretty naive about just how much control this Communist government actually has over the people. I've told my friends and family of the freedom the Chinese people actually have...or what I have PERCEIVED to be freedom. But yesterday was just a small example of one of the many, many little things, little freedoms that the people here are denied. Little things that as an American I just take for granted. All those little freedoms...it's not the big stuff...it's all the little things. I told my Chinese wife that in the states I can walk in the store and walk out in 30 minutes with the actual computer I want. It's just a small thing but rather profound to me. What an eye opener to me to say the least.

Does the government believe I'll use that computer to overthrow Tibet or something???

Anyway...the more I thought about it, thought it might make for a good story.

Thanks.

大意:记者收到一封来自中国的电邮,作者来自郑州是外国人
在中国生活工作几年,想买个配置强大的电脑来处理照片并编辑视频,经过挑选决定选择lenovo官网上的一款配置
cpu强大,1tb硬盘,蓝光刻录光驱,hd video卡,需1w米

当他把想法告诉同在中国的外国友人时,友人大笑,说老百姓不可能买到这么强大的pc,因为government DOES NOT want the public to have these powerful computers.
,土共不允许老百姓使用强大的pc......:')

作者不相信,结果...... 他说他找了n间专卖店,lenovo,sony,dell......居然买不到这款,卖机的居然问他干嘛还这么牛的pc,推荐给他一堆性能差点的......
作者最后发了一堆感慨,freedom freedom freedom 米国人民可以在米国的土地上仅用30分钟买到自己想要的电脑,而在土鳖国......

Does the government believe I'll use that computer to overthrow Tibet or something???

翻译比较简短,大家可以去原网址看

笑死我了 这可以是真的么 难道这就是我们不知道的真相 最后感叹一句:Q :Q

土鳖太强大了
外国土包子,1W的电脑在这边算很牛叉吗?切~~
我靠,那我这台1w8的电脑难道不是在百脑汇买的?
这不是为郑州政府摸黑吗
这个,要不要服务器啊

我这里有 最贵的 18W+
原帖由 9527周 于 2009-3-22 19:49 发表
这不是为郑州政府摸黑吗


岂止是摸黑郑州政府,根本就是想摸黑TG。问题是这种谣造得太没有技术含量了,且不说1w的电脑能好到哪儿去,根本上TG禁止买卖配置高点的台式机想想都是无厘头的事。台式机配置再高又能怎么样?除了打游戏看片爽,跟干反G的事有嘛关系~~写这玩意的家伙也就去唬唬那些红脖子外国乡巴佬。;P
万全R630 G7 D7310 2G/0AN                特配        160000
脑残.......
tg也挺郁闷的,买不到电脑也能扯到一块去。店家向他推荐差一点的也很正常吧,主流一点的,不是经常能遇到的么:L
顶级配置的台式机在电脑卖场的确很难见到(不是那种很贵,但是配置一般的“个性”电脑)。不过是不是政府的控制就不知道了。
原帖由 tomluter2.0 于 2009-3-22 21:00 发表
顶级配置的台式机在电脑卖场的确很难见到(不是那种很贵,但是配置一般的“个性”电脑)。不过是不是政府的控制就不知道了。


根本就不可能是政府控制。想想就知道,真是顶级配置商家也不可能一直备着现货的,因为买的人肯定少,进了现货卖不掉怎么办?这跟买顶级跑车一样的,现在在国内,只要你有钱,这类东西肯定买得到,只不过有时要等代理商替你去下单子。TG脑残去禁这种东西~~
原帖由 云在青天水在瓶 于 2009-3-22 21:12 发表
根本就不可能是政府控制。想想就知道,真是顶级配置商家也不可能一直备着现货的,因为买的人肯定少,进了现货卖不掉怎么办?这跟买顶级跑车一样的,现在在国内,只要你有钱,这类东西肯定买得到,只不过有时要等代理商替你去下单子。TG脑残去禁这种东西~~

顶配过个一年就变主流啦,差价太大,一般的商家都不愿存货。
我只知道前任电脑配了个E230的CRT,等了一个星期.
目前使用的电脑音箱是惠威200B.也等了一星期.
得出结论,想配一个自己想要的电脑,得耐心的等
偶一个朋友给自己配的电脑(LP的嫁妆)
显卡花了他四五千元.烧包啊.
前几天打电话给我,打听惠威200B的音效如何
他怎么也想不通,我的垃圾电脑配了个二千多的音箱
就象我也想不通,他那近二万的电脑配了个三四百元的漫步者音箱.
搞笑。
某些老外啊,叫我说啥好呢?:D
这倒是符合了那个什么“受迫害妄想症”,
是叫这个名字吗?
邮箱里经常能收到这样的东东。
受迫害妄想症 ;P ;P ;P

请来广州,区区1w块太低级了。只要肯给钱怎么也能让你掏不止这个数。
估计是不懂中文
被翻译骗了
啥也不说了  泪流满面
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原帖由 耗子药煮面 于 2009-3-22 23:35 发表
估计是不懂中文
被翻译骗了


真要是受翻译骗,那个翻译真该被揍一顿。也确实,有些翻译外语是说得挺溜,但对本国的传统文化甚至生活常识都很无知,在博物馆、外文书店都碰到过这种翻译,听他们给老外讲解,那叫一个汗啊[:a9:]。至于有些JY翻译存心要给TG摸黑,那就没话好说了。
妖魔化啊~土工会无聊到这个地步吗?:D ;P
这个也太假了吧,外国人对中国无知到这个程度?连这样没水准的诽谤也信,简直令人发指!
真相是:  政府为了扶持联想, 所以允许联想卖几万的服务器而不允许卖一万的PC :D
原帖由 云在青天水在瓶 于 2009-3-23 00:00 发表


真要是受翻译骗,那个翻译真该被揍一顿。也确实,有些翻译外语是说得挺溜,但对本国的传统文化甚至生活常识都很无知,在博物馆、外文书店都碰到过这种翻译,听他们给老外讲解,那叫一个汗啊[:a9:]。至于有些JY翻 ...


哈哈 新闻里面提到的那个email是个鬼佬发的 不存在翻译问题
呵呵,这家伙干吗要去lenovo那里买呢?大陆又不是没有dell,你在dell的网店订难道订不到?
I've been fuming ever since. What really pisses me off is not the computer per se...no, what angers me is for the past five years I have been pretty naive about just how much control this Communist government actually has over the people. I've told my friends and family of the freedom the Chinese people actually have...or what I have PERCEIVED to be freedom.
可以想象该email作者说这段话的时候是多么的愤慨啊 哈哈
英语好的同学为什么不给他写几封信嘲谑一下,并且别忘附上一些“证据”噢!
顶级的品牌确实现货少,那是商家的事,这也跟政府有关?搞笑
原帖由 hotmail01 于 2009-3-23 09:30 发表


哈哈 新闻里面提到的那个email是个鬼佬发的 不存在翻译问题


面叔的意思是写信那家伙可能是带着翻译一起去买电脑的。但不管是翻译的问题,还是写信那位的问题,或者根本就是鬼佬记者编造的假新闻,反正这里面至少有一个是脑残。
顶级配置的台式机在电脑卖场的确很难见到:handshake
真是可笑,这帮傲慢,自大,自以为是的白种猪。
一般的电脑市场没有高档机的现货是正常的,因为这不是市场的主流产品,买的人极少,要买的话要提前订货,有些可能还需要预付部分押金,毕竟那么贵的东西,我要是进了货,你客户变卦咋办。我在百脑汇,颐高,高新电脑城有大把做电脑生意的同学、朋友。只要你有钱,怎么配置都行,就是要等些时间罢了。
太脑残了。就算真要管制,也得管制工作站、服务器什么的,PC机算个鸟啊?
http://washingtonbureau.typepad.com/china/2009/03/yes-we-have-no-computers.html

yahoo转的这篇新闻的原出处如上

欢迎大家去下面的评论席慰问一下
哈哈,貌似已经很多人去问候过他了。
那老兄竟然还是麦肯锡大中华区的Breau Chief。。。。。我总算理解为什么经济学人会把他们的中国breau chief换成中国人了。
一万块这么便宜的电脑买不到?随买随到!
原帖由 深涧悠蓝 于 2009-3-22 22:09 发表
偶一个朋友给自己配的电脑(LP的嫁妆)
显卡花了他四五千元.烧包啊.
前几天打电话给我,打听惠威200B的音效如何
他怎么也想不通,我的垃圾电脑配了个二千多的音箱
就象我也想不通,他那近二万的电脑配了个三四百元的漫 ...


都够烧包的。