超级军网12月19日，洛马展示第一架经过重量优化的F-35 AF-1(CTOL ...
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请注意前起落架舱门，已经改成对开式。
F35的身板很宽厚啊~看8爷那纤细的身材.............
蜜月吧,山寨吧,大同吧,但要理智啊.或许山寨平民化只是一种一相情愿.或许蜜月只是吃N欠不长一智的一相情愿.
原帖由 McCauley 于 2008-12-24 13:36 发表
请注意前起落架舱门，已经改成对开式。
这个之前也改回来了，老美还是知错能改的嘛。
原帖由 McCauley 于 2008-12-24 13:30 发表
与这架F-35 AF-1飞机的结构完全相同的F-35将于2010年起提供给空军。现在F-35的装配生产线正在以每小时50英寸(127毫米)的移动速度全速率生产。
老米的流水线作业啊，以前看过BOEING的记录片，感觉他们这种移动式流水线作业评定标准很有意思。BOEING在客机装配车间的地上画了不同颜色的线。每条线表示生产到第几周或什么时间时，飞机装配进度必须达到某个标准，以此来保证进度。
嗯。。我只想知道现在单价是多少了？？
实践出真知啊
原帖由 chenfeng1898 于 2008-12-24 22:45 发表
老米的流水线作业啊，以前看过BOEING的记录片，感觉他们这种移动式流水线作业评定标准很有意思。BOEING在客机装配车间的地上画了不同颜色的线。每条线表示生产到第几周或什么时间时，飞机装配进度必须达到某个标准 ...
精益生产。
全世界所有陆军的噩梦
原帖由 酸菜鱼 于 2008-12-24 22:05 发表
F35的身板很宽厚啊~看8爷那纤细的身材.............
空重在那摆着呢，和f15不相上下，而且还是单发鸡……
原帖由 silentgod 于 2008-12-24 22:57 发表
空重在那摆着呢，和f15不相上下，而且还是单发鸡……
怎么还这样说呢？你现在还认为F-35是13吨级的吗？
原帖由 McCauley 于 2008-12-24 23:06 发表
怎么还这样说呢？你现在还认为F-35是13吨级的吗？
[:a9:] 不相上下……
我现在比较关心单价。。。
原帖由 McCauley 于 2008-12-24 23:06 发表
怎么还这样说呢？你现在还认为F-35是13吨级的吗？
什么叫“空重”呢？眼大看过头了？
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原帖由 icyblue 于 2008-12-24 22:55 发表
精益生产。
JIT 即时生产 Just-in-time
原帖由 yuleyule 于 2008-12-24 23:47 发表
假设空战状态下13.5吨，两中两近，，与之相当的对手是谁？鹅毛2011年服役的苏35能pk嘛？？
13.5吨只能是在地面上“空战”了！
原帖由 14364310 于 2008-12-24 23:34 发表
我现在比较关心单价。。。
这个不是问题，价格肯定在可以承受的范围内，能有资格买到心里就已经乐开了花！;P
其他不说，这个发动机TTMD的变态了:Q :Q :Q
如果有一天能卖给TG二、三百架（只是如果），CCAV肯定会办一台比春晚还热闹十倍的晚会来庆祝的！:D
原帖由 McCauley 于 2008-12-25 12:41 发表
如果有一天能卖给TG二、三百架（只是如果），CCAV肯定会办一台比春晚还热闹十倍的晚会来庆祝的！:D
TG不大喜欢F35的 要就要F22的！！
F35是丝带的技术，准丝带的机
Weight-Optimized F-35 Test Fleet Adds Conventional Takeoff And Landing Variant
FORT WORTH, Texas, December 23rd, 2008 --
Joint Strike Fighter Program Executive Officer Maj. Gen. C.R. Davis speaks to a crowd of employees and military pilots during the Dec. 19 rollout of the newest F-35 Lightning II stealth fighter at Lockheed Martin in Fort Worth, Texas. Known as AF-1, the aircraft is the first weight-optimized conventional takeoff and landing variant. All but the first F-35 test aircraft incorporate weight-saving design elements that enhance overall performance.
High Resolution Photo
Lockheed Martin [NYSE: LMT] rolled out the first weight-optimized conventional takeoff and landing (CTOL) variant of the F-35 Lightning II fighter on Dec. 19. The new F-35A, called AF-1, joins three weight-optimized F-35B short takeoff/vertical landing variants currently undergoing testing. The aircraft are structurally identical to the F-35s that will be delivered to armed services beginning in 2010.
"The Lightning II CTOL aircraft will be, by far, the most widely employed F-35 variant in the world, with more than 1,700 to be used by the U.S. Air Force alone," said Dan Crowley, Lockheed Martin executive vice president and F-35 program general manager. "The F-35A we delivered is, at its core, the same aircraft that will enter operational service with the Air Force and international customers."
The first F-35A, known as AA-1, has completed 69 flights, and has a production-representative external shape and internal systems. Unlike AF-1 and the other F-35 test aircraft, AA-1's internal structure was designed before a 2004 weight-savings program resulted in structural revisions to all three F-35 variants.
"AF-1 incorporates many evolutionary improvements and updates that have resulted from our AA-1 flight test program over the last two years," said Tom Burbage, Lockheed Martin executive vice president and general manager of F-35 Program Integration.
AF-1 is the first F-35 to have employed the moving assembly line at its full-rate production speed of 50 inches (127 millimeters) per hour. Workers tested the system by installing the vertical tails as the line moved at maximum speed. The moving assembly line, designed to improve production quality and speed, is the first ever for a modern fighter. AF-1 becomes the first aircraft since World War II to use a moving assembly line at Lockheed Martin’s (formerly Consolidated Vultee, Convair and General Dynamics) Fort Worth factory.
F-35 Lightning II systems and parts are built by industries worldwide. Six F-35s are now complete, 17 are in assembly – including the first Low Rate Initial Production aircraft – and F-35 test aircraft have completed 83 flights.
Lockheed Martin is developing the F-35 with its principal industrial partners Northrop Grumman and BAE Systems. Two separate, interchangeable F-35 engines are under development: the Pratt & Whitney F135 and the GE Rolls-Royce Fighter Engine Team F136.
Three F-35 variants derived from a common design, developed together and using the same sustainment infrastructure worldwide will replace at least 13 types of aircraft for 11 nations initially, making the Lightning II the most cost-effective fighter program in history.
Headquartered in Bethesda, Md., Lockheed Martin is a global security company that employs about 140,000 people worldwide and is principally engaged in the research, design, development, manufacture, integration and sustainment of advanced technology systems, products and services. The corporation reported 2007 sales of $41.9 billion.
FORT WORTH, Texas, December 23rd, 2008 --
Joint Strike Fighter Program Executive Officer Maj. Gen. C.R. Davis speaks to a crowd of employees and military pilots during the Dec. 19 rollout of the newest F-35 Lightning II stealth fighter at Lockheed Martin in Fort Worth, Texas. Known as AF-1, the aircraft is the first weight-optimized conventional takeoff and landing variant. All but the first F-35 test aircraft incorporate weight-saving design elements that enhance overall performance.
High Resolution Photo
Lockheed Martin [NYSE: LMT] rolled out the first weight-optimized conventional takeoff and landing (CTOL) variant of the F-35 Lightning II fighter on Dec. 19. The new F-35A, called AF-1, joins three weight-optimized F-35B short takeoff/vertical landing variants currently undergoing testing. The aircraft are structurally identical to the F-35s that will be delivered to armed services beginning in 2010.
"The Lightning II CTOL aircraft will be, by far, the most widely employed F-35 variant in the world, with more than 1,700 to be used by the U.S. Air Force alone," said Dan Crowley, Lockheed Martin executive vice president and F-35 program general manager. "The F-35A we delivered is, at its core, the same aircraft that will enter operational service with the Air Force and international customers."
The first F-35A, known as AA-1, has completed 69 flights, and has a production-representative external shape and internal systems. Unlike AF-1 and the other F-35 test aircraft, AA-1's internal structure was designed before a 2004 weight-savings program resulted in structural revisions to all three F-35 variants.
"AF-1 incorporates many evolutionary improvements and updates that have resulted from our AA-1 flight test program over the last two years," said Tom Burbage, Lockheed Martin executive vice president and general manager of F-35 Program Integration.
AF-1 is the first F-35 to have employed the moving assembly line at its full-rate production speed of 50 inches (127 millimeters) per hour. Workers tested the system by installing the vertical tails as the line moved at maximum speed. The moving assembly line, designed to improve production quality and speed, is the first ever for a modern fighter. AF-1 becomes the first aircraft since World War II to use a moving assembly line at Lockheed Martin’s (formerly Consolidated Vultee, Convair and General Dynamics) Fort Worth factory.
F-35 Lightning II systems and parts are built by industries worldwide. Six F-35s are now complete, 17 are in assembly – including the first Low Rate Initial Production aircraft – and F-35 test aircraft have completed 83 flights.
Lockheed Martin is developing the F-35 with its principal industrial partners Northrop Grumman and BAE Systems. Two separate, interchangeable F-35 engines are under development: the Pratt & Whitney F135 and the GE Rolls-Royce Fighter Engine Team F136.
Three F-35 variants derived from a common design, developed together and using the same sustainment infrastructure worldwide will replace at least 13 types of aircraft for 11 nations initially, making the Lightning II the most cost-effective fighter program in history.
Headquartered in Bethesda, Md., Lockheed Martin is a global security company that employs about 140,000 people worldwide and is principally engaged in the research, design, development, manufacture, integration and sustainment of advanced technology systems, products and services. The corporation reported 2007 sales of $41.9 billion.
其实二战后设计的水面战舰，普遍机动性都不及二战时的同类，备弹量也没有增加甚至是减少了。但是导弹武器的实用化，令他们有了不做复杂机动就能攻击敌人和防御敌人攻击的能力。
战斗机设计会不会也在经历这种变化过程呢？
战斗机设计会不会也在经历这种变化过程呢？
原帖由 歼击机07 于 2008-12-25 12:54 发表
F35是丝带的技术，准丝带的机
4-怎么也比3+强......
:D :D :D :D :D :D
三代基本功之一的BVR，F16早期型是没有的，而上一代的F4、MIG23反而都有。如此也并未有人说那是3-、准3代啊。
价格很重要,否则越来越不看好它............
价格不会是很大问题，固然升价在所难免（这也该考虑币值变化），但是不买这个，老美和外国用户并没有多少更好的选择。EF2000的价格跟性能比较更不象话，总不能三代用到散架，或者找老毛子买吧。
F-35成准四了。
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偶觉得,老美的联合项目能把欧洲的联合项目搞黄了,完全是政治作用.跟性能没关系,就跟韩国,新加坡等小国买F-15,F-16似的,完全是外交途径,真正这些国家得什么战机技术的好处了,看不出来.
原帖由 PRINCEBUSTER 于 2008-12-25 15:10 发表
就跟韩国,新加坡等小国买F-15,F-16似的,完全是外交途径,真正这些国家得什么战机技术的好处了,看不出来.
难道随便买点毛货欧货就能捞到啥技术移转了不成？
原帖由 PRINCEBUSTER 于 2008-12-25 15:10 发表
偶觉得,老美的联合项目能把欧洲的联合项目搞黄了,完全是政治作用.跟性能没关系,就跟韩国,新加坡等小国买F-15,F-16似的,完全是外交途径,真正这些国家得什么战机技术的好处了,看不出来.
F-35的终极目的是利用其不错的技术（准四代）及可以接受的价格（与双风相当）占领大部分高端战斗机市场，进而扼杀他国的航空工业。。。。;funk
洛马的商业宣传很到位啊。。。。。。。:hug:
老美最三个代表,最讲政治了,就怕你也讲..:D :D 没米国,洛马这F-35米国发财谁要啊,直接上F-22:victory: ..
全球防务市场就这么大
养不活那么多厂子有啥办法
捞不到食的也只有缩回自家一亩三分地了
养不活那么多厂子有啥办法
捞不到食的也只有缩回自家一亩三分地了
实施情况是ｆ３５将比ａａ１重量还要轻，ｚｗｚ当时以ａａ１重量来估计ｆ３５重量显然更加合理。
不知道那些坚持认为ｆ３５机动性很差的人现在怎么说呢
不知道那些坚持认为ｆ３５机动性很差的人现在怎么说呢
这个帖子可以说是狠狠得扇了认为ｆ３５是纸老虎的那些人一记耳光啊
原帖由 costrave 于 2008-12-25 16:12 发表
实施情况是ｆ３５将比ａａ１重量还要轻，ｚｗｚ当时以ａａ１重量来估计ｆ３５重量显然更加合理。
不知道那些坚持认为ｆ３５机动性很差的人现在怎么说呢
我坚持认为F35的机动性比猛禽差很多。。。。。。。。[:a11:]
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