转一篇毛子评航展上的10号

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这是一个来珠海参加航展的俄罗斯航空方面的记者7号的评论,现在在海外的论坛开始传开了
Vladimir Karnozov, a Moscow-based aerospace journalist, visited the Zhuhai air show this week, and files this sobering report about the new J-10 fighter.


ZHUHAI -- There is an old anecdote. The optimists around the world learn English. The pessimists, Chinese. But down-to-earth study the Kalashnikov assault rifle.

I think it is time for the down-to-earth crowd to study their rifles using Chinese manuals!

Two years ago every important source told me, let's wait two years and see what comes of China's new  J-10 fighter.

Now everyone I trust says the Chinese pulled it off, and the J-10 has proven a tremendously successful program.

I watched how the J-10 flew over Zhuhai, in 30 degree Celsius temperatures and high humidity.

The pilot did none of the show tricks like post-stall or tail slide or pitch-back, but turns were very tight, initial rate of turn very high. It was clear there is a lot of potential in this airplane to achieve the same maneuvers more quickly.

The pilot rarely used afterburner and the degrees of canard deflection were small. Still, the airplane flew very well. I reckon it will beat F-16C or MiG-29/SMT easily.


Chinese have already completed over 100 J-10s and they have bought more Russian engines for next series.

I do not think they would buy more Flankers since the J-10 is as good as the Flanker, to say the least.

Chinese military said "no" to local engine makers and "no" to local makers of some key systems, instead buying these critical items directly from Russia.

As for AWACS support, it is present with 4 A-50 equipped with KJ-2000 radars and it seems the Chinese have bought a special version of the Ka-31, although very much different from the Indian navy version. Apparently with a new radar.

If proper tactics are used, the PLAAF can beat Taiwanese opponents in conventional air war. Unless the US makes it into a full scale world-for-world battle, the central committee of the Chinese Communist Party does have a chance.

(Photos: Vladimir Karnozov)http://www.flightglobal.com/blog ... uhai-chinas-j1.html

这是一个来珠海参加航展的俄罗斯航空方面的记者7号的评论,现在在海外的论坛开始传开了
Vladimir Karnozov, a Moscow-based aerospace journalist, visited the Zhuhai air show this week, and files this sobering report about the new J-10 fighter.


ZHUHAI -- There is an old anecdote. The optimists around the world learn English. The pessimists, Chinese. But down-to-earth study the Kalashnikov assault rifle.

I think it is time for the down-to-earth crowd to study their rifles using Chinese manuals!

Two years ago every important source told me, let's wait two years and see what comes of China's new  J-10 fighter.

Now everyone I trust says the Chinese pulled it off, and the J-10 has proven a tremendously successful program.

I watched how the J-10 flew over Zhuhai, in 30 degree Celsius temperatures and high humidity.

The pilot did none of the show tricks like post-stall or tail slide or pitch-back, but turns were very tight, initial rate of turn very high. It was clear there is a lot of potential in this airplane to achieve the same maneuvers more quickly.

The pilot rarely used afterburner and the degrees of canard deflection were small. Still, the airplane flew very well. I reckon it will beat F-16C or MiG-29/SMT easily.


Chinese have already completed over 100 J-10s and they have bought more Russian engines for next series.

I do not think they would buy more Flankers since the J-10 is as good as the Flanker, to say the least.

Chinese military said "no" to local engine makers and "no" to local makers of some key systems, instead buying these critical items directly from Russia.

As for AWACS support, it is present with 4 A-50 equipped with KJ-2000 radars and it seems the Chinese have bought a special version of the Ka-31, although very much different from the Indian navy version. Apparently with a new radar.

If proper tactics are used, the PLAAF can beat Taiwanese opponents in conventional air war. Unless the US makes it into a full scale world-for-world battle, the central committee of the Chinese Communist Party does have a chance.

(Photos: Vladimir Karnozov)
The pilot did none of the show tricks like post-stall or tail slide or pitch-back, but turns were very tight, initial rate of turn very high. It was clear there is a lot of potential in this airplane to achieve the same maneuvers more quickly.

The pilot rarely used afterburner and the degrees of canard deflection were small. Still, the airplane flew very well. I reckon it will beat F-16C or MiG-29/SMT easily.


呵呵,最有效的两段,评价很高啊。
谁翻译下?蝌蚪文小强不懂。
套话而已吧,不过这记者对10号的观感貌似还不错
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谢谢LS,辛苦了!:handshake [:a6:]
貌似太行都公开了 说不用自己发动机说不过去! 所以感觉这篇文章后面看起来老毛子的评论还是带的有一点酸的味道!
这已经是这些年来对10号最正面的英文评论了。现在很多人已经在抨击他了,严重违反了西方对10号的常识。

另外前两天提到的那个讲评红旗军演的老美飞官对10号的评价有可能也出乎了西方普通网民对10号的一些常识印象,可惜一直找不到录像。
大家有没有注意到他说的10号的初始回转率很高?我也有同感,10号转圈的头半圈(不到)是非常快的,后面似乎就慢下来不少。
“这已经是这些年来对10号最正面的英文评论了。现在很多人已经在抨击他了,严重违反了西方对10号的常识。”

西方人的抨击比国内的客气多了。
这段文章里最有价值的一段内涵猛料啊[:a2:]
辜枉听之信之
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原帖由 wwu2142 于 2008-11-9 16:45 发表
快速翻一下,
珠海--  有句老话,乐观的人学英语,悲观的人学中文,现实的人学卡拉什尼科夫冲锋枪.
我想现在现实的人们是时候学习中文写的冲锋枪手册了.
2年前,所有重要的信息来源都告诉我,再等两年看看中国的歼十到底 ...


[:a15:] 翻译的不错,Kalashnikov assault rifle直接翻译成AK就好了![:a2:]
飞行员没有做任何表演性的花招,比如过失速,尾冲或者落叶飘,但是他转(圈)很紧,初始回旋速度很高,很明显这架飞机很有潜力用更高的速度去做那些机动动作.

那个飞行员很少开加力,鸭翼摆动也很小,而飞机飞得还是很好;
-------------------------------说得好!
原帖由 PLA 于 2008-11-9 17:39 发表
这段文章里最有价值的一段内涵猛料啊[:a2:]

什么猛料? 买了新引擎? 还是海军买了Ka31?
“至于预警机,它由4架A-50搭配KJ-2000雷达支持。似乎中国已经买了一种特殊型号的卡31,和印度的版本很不一样,明显装了新雷达。”

这才是猛料

J-10那段。。。不要忘记后面加了句侧卫也一样好。。。。
The optimists around the world learn English. The pessimists, Chinese. But down-to-earth study the Kalashnikov assault rifle.
这句话我喜欢
看来俄罗斯对太行有点那个……哈哈。
同楼上!!
4架大预,HM看来得靠卡31带折叠天线了,运7警上不了舰了,太行还是拿不出手,新35看来TG没大兴趣................
俺就猜了这么点.................
太行行不行,要看装不装,装多少,太行真好就该大规模猎装了,但现在还在买毛发
对于歼十的评价.相当中肯呀..
看来我们的J10定位不低呀!还可以取代侧卫?:D
评论的还算中肯
看看国外的评论确实是有收获。
现在我才明白歼10的气动真的很适合超机动。
不光是我,这次公开飞行表演,让见多识广的洋大人也不得不赞啊!
看一段视频,远比学习理解100个技术名词来得透彻。:lol
这就是内行看门道.外行看热闹,前几天不是有人说歼十飞得不好看吗?;P
原帖由 螨猪的悲剧 于 2008-11-10 14:06 发表
这就是内行看门道.外行看热闹,前几天不是有人说歼十飞得不好看吗?;P


根据ertert老兄所说,的确没有事先训练时飞的好看。
这次歼十的表演明显保守、留力,单纯看表演,不觉得优于苏27!更谈不上低估了歼十!