超级军网问7071020一个问题
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707兄不是发帖说过“土共”坦克短管炮+二期弹2000米穿700毫米，长管炮+三期弹达到M829A4水平。可又为什么说99只能穿600-700，能穿800就很不错了呢？707兄不是发帖说过“土共”坦克短管炮+二期弹2000米穿700毫米，长管炮+三期弹达到M829A4水平。可又为什么说99只能穿600-700，能穿800就很不错了呢？
:D :D :D
现在99用的什么炮，什么弹？
现在99用的什么炮，什么弹？
:o 还望707兄多多指教啊！:o :o
老七呀，M829A4是什么项目呀？
707的意思是125炮有三种，一种96，一种99原型，一种99A2。弹也是三种，1和2已经服役了，3也快了。哈。估计96炮用不了3期弹。我猜测的对吗
原帖由 G6-52L 于 2008-7-10 11:59 发表M892a3额知道
老七呀，M829A4是什么项目呀？
是呀，既不是公费项目，也不是自费项目，也不可能是“黑计划”项目，所以这a4是否存在，我还不清楚。:D
:D 貌似这几年在网上扯M829A3及其后继型号的威力的，还没有对于M829A3的资料准确的掌握
M829A3好像没有后继的型号，美国的研究重点早已转移到“中程弹药”这样的东西上来了。美国的确购买了几根L55身管做研究，但是强调决无按照L55规格研制新弹药的计划。
:D 切以为M829A3已经到了一个非常的高度，不会再有换代的常规穿甲弹出现。:D
很多人喜欢问L55打M829A3会是什么效果，如果米国未来换长炮管会怎么样？
额想说这个基本不可能，从同时期的M829A3和L55加DM53的发展思路来看，用长炮打M829A3是不可能的事情。
未来米帝陆军的主导将会是乘车战斗系统，所以引进长炮没有必要，而且米帝的新120和炮射导弹素非常可怕的。
很多人喜欢问L55打M829A3会是什么效果，如果米国未来换长炮管会怎么样？
额想说这个基本不可能，从同时期的M829A3和L55加DM53的发展思路来看，用长炮打M829A3是不可能的事情。
未来米帝陆军的主导将会是乘车战斗系统，所以引进长炮没有必要，而且米帝的新120和炮射导弹素非常可怕的。
M829A3的可怕之处：依靠粗长的弹芯穿甲，由于速度并不快，可以不理会反应装甲！
既然96的短管炮+二期弹2000米都穿700毫米，那99为什么才600-700呢？
应该是99的短管加二期弹2000米都穿700毫米吧。96的还不如99呢
99应是所谓的“短管加强型”吧？
估计99长管+三期弹应该能到800了.但估计96是用不上了.96国产版T72
未来米帝陆军的主导将会是乘车战斗系统，所以引进长炮没有必要，而且米帝的新120和炮射导弹素非常可怕的。 ...
707说的是“斯塔克”动能穿甲火箭助推激光制导炮弹，和“X杆弹”间瞄攻顶毫米波制导炮弹吗？？
这2个BT+邪恶的东西，老美还在搞？？
我还以为老美不搞了呢！这么多年国内没啥它们动静传出。
这2个家伙，尤其是“斯塔克”弹实在是非常的邪恶，整个一炮射的超高速动能导弹，还带个火箭帮忙加速，可说未来20年内，基本上不会有能对它起作用的主/被动防护或对抗手段。
707说的是“斯塔克”动能穿甲火箭助推激光制导炮弹，和“X杆弹”间瞄攻顶毫米波制导炮弹吗？？
这2个BT+邪恶的东西，老美还在搞？？
我还以为老美不搞了呢！这么多年国内没啥它们动静传出。
这2个家伙，尤其是“斯塔克”弹实在是非常的邪恶，整个一炮射的超高速动能导弹，还带个火箭帮忙加速，可说未来20年内，基本上不会有能对它起作用的主/被动防护或对抗手段。
搭车个疑问：逆向技术自我研制89自行122榴弹炮得时候，45倍身管技术应该已经成熟了吧，为何还远样照搬老毛子得短管模式呢？
个人认为tg应该发展班组型高速动能火箭弹，效果应该比传统rpg好吧
个人认为tg应该发展班组型高速动能火箭弹，效果应该比传统rpg好吧
MS96和T72除了主炮口径和装弹机原理没有任何相似之处
当然还有他们都是一个炮塔6对负重
当然还有他们都是一个炮塔6对负重
:L 暑假。。。我现在才发现~~~
96坦克的主炮抽气装置位于身管偏前部，热护套为前2后2
99坦克的主炮抽气装置位于身管中部，热护套为前2后2
99A2的主炮抽气装置位于身管偏后部，热护套为前2后3
附图：M829A3
穿800mm熟铁没啥问题吧
年终极刷红最强弹707连续两天的白酒额有点扛不住了，所以额选择了休息。今天无聊，随便翻了些论文，在翻到某篇论文时，不禁疲劳全无。土共坦克炮的牛皮不是吹出来的，还真打出了粉强的成绩………………用一句话概括土共的坦克炮和穿甲弹，额认为是用德国的长管炮打美国的高科技穿甲弹。以前额说过了不少坦克炮和穿甲弹的，详情请看本菜以前的帖。今天说125二期弹以后的。 话说125二期弹在短管125上打出了700毫米多的成绩，土共觉得不满意，决定要提高穿甲能力。计划两个步骤同时进行。在不改变弹的基础上，加长125炮以提高初速。（这个办法简单，但是不容易提高现役装备的能力，换炮管不容易）在不改变炮的基础上，提高土共二期弹的威力。（换碳纤维弹托，改进发射药性能，提高火药力不改变穿甲体形状——2.5期弹，在这个基础上换用更长的穿甲体——三期弹）在三代大改装备部队后，我们的125炮和三期弹弹会有几个组合：125某短管炮加三期弹，125短管加强型加三期弹，125长管型加三期弹。长管型加三期弹的威力经过本菜的换算与美国M-829A4相当，在采用了发射药包裹技术后，膛压等内弹道指标远低于89-120，土共的坦克炮摘掉了膛压高的帽子。什么DM-63去死吧。貌似本菜手里的数据是没有经过弹丸修形之前的数据，貌似等弹丸修型和新弹体工艺实现后，千米速度降减少后超越M829E4不是啥问题。土共新弹的最大炮口初速已经到了18XX米秒，貌似木有比我们更快的了。土共满塞，满塞，满塞！！！目前99A试验车有若干辆：1500发动机底盘试验车（兼早期全系统演示样车）短管炮火力性能样车（后期加装全套的火控设备）火控系能原理样车短管炮全系统样车长管炮火力系能样车（貌似现在也变成了全系统样车）短管炮重防护样车若干型终极重防护，长管全系统正样车阅兵工程展示样车（貌似还没出厂）在99A取得成功后，将有部分成果应用到99的升级上。
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关于99，额想说自己的看法：
99也就是三代坦克，是我国装甲车辆发展的一个阶段成果，从后来的三大大改预研，三代大改坦克的改进来看，99的问题多多，只是我国迈进三代坦克门槛的敲门之作。
炮长观瞄虽然采用了下反加热像，并有自动跟踪能力，但是在动对动精度上和舒适性上有很大缺陷。用有光学取景器的小DC，额还是喜欢看着屏幕拍照，只有迫不得已的情况下才用那个光学取景器。
与下反观瞄配套的热像在发现和识别距离上与西方同期坦克热像有一定的差距。
车长周视瞄准只有白光和微光通道，车长对于战场形式的感知能力一般。也许我们不必苛求，要知道豹二也是在A5以后才上车长热像的。
车内信息化水平一般，当然额不知道三代大改预研上取得的成果是否应用到后期交付的几批99里面。
军迷们受某人三代坦克专辑的荼毒很深，中国125坦克炮/弹只处于当今世界坦克炮的中上水平（额只和米帝和德国的120比）远远未达到世界第一的水平。某人的什么穿深960只是个神话，现实中我国125能达到800就很牛了（估算，换算某数据），当然米帝和德国也不会好太多。99和96的125由于炮的不同，威力也是不同的，两者差距相当于83-105和94-105的威力差距。现实中99使用现役某弹的数据在600-700之间(具体的额不说）
负责任的说一句，额们已经把毛子的2A46系列全面甩开了，毛子2A-46威力最大的和96的125差不多。
瞄导合一，发射炮射导弹，目前额们只有三个型号的装甲车辆可以。99、二代步和100轮突。观瞄能力没有炮射导弹远，几公里的射程都是白搭，额觉得还是老老实实用穿甲弹和破甲弹吧，这个东西还给毛子比较好。
关于底盘，99的传动和发动机勉强达到三代门槛，很多很多的不足，而且底盘的防护能力与本人想象的有一定的差距。关于发动机，额负责任的说一句，99的1200马力发动机和任何国家无关，引进的只是某国的工艺，但实现工艺的手段完全国内自行开发。
传说中的三代大改，额能说的是：三代大改与99的差异很像豹二A4和A6的差异，发动机从1200换了1500，同时全车重量增加了不少。本菜指出的缺点基本得到解决。至于什么城市战坦克不就是挂套件么？
现在在说说96
很多人都喜欢YY96坦克的威力，一直在疑惑为啥出口巴基斯坦的85系列都那么多年了，为啥到90年代末我们才装备了以85系列为原型的96呢？
这个还得从120坦克炮下马说起：
120炮的下马原因很简单，就是内弹道设计不好，炮管长，药室大，导致以此为条件设计的底盘尺寸巨大,进而为了保证机动性得用一台马力巨大的发动机（相对于当时我们的750马力的12150而言）这显然是不可能的。
在120被迫下马后，我国坦克车辆设计人员做出了两个决定。使用对车内空间要求较小的分装125并以从某国获得的125炮为原型研制我国自己的125坦克炮。（火炮设计的门道不是看以什么为原型，而是看自己国家的工业基础和设计手段）另外继续发展从欧洲引进的105炮，使其成为在三代坦克服役前我国坦克的主炮。
应该说当时的125在威力上要比120有一个倒退，120的威力在500以上，而当时毛子的2A46威力只有400左右，所以么在125炮的威力超过120之前，我国是不会装备使用125炮坦克的。
虽然引进的L7 105炮性能一般，但是我们通过100滑的研制，对于这个这个口径火炮的设计积累了很多经验，研制了自用的105坦克炮，并以此为原型发展了若干种型号的105坦克炮，包括88A和59D-2使用的94加长105，发射某弹的威力在500左右。
90年代中期某年后，125坦克炮的高膛压耐受能力大幅度提高，使得125炮的威力大幅度提高，超过了120在台架上的某试验数据。为了避免在三代大量批产之前仍然大量使用老59的尴尬和避免三代技术要求过高而带来的风险问题，决定以85Ⅱ为基础装备威力超过了120的某型125坦克炮的96坦克大规模装备部队。
========================================================
关于99，额想说自己的看法：
99也就是三代坦克，是我国装甲车辆发展的一个阶段成果，从后来的三大大改预研，三代大改坦克的改进来看，99的问题多多，只是我国迈进三代坦克门槛的敲门之作。
炮长观瞄虽然采用了下反加热像，并有自动跟踪能力，但是在动对动精度上和舒适性上有很大缺陷。用有光学取景器的小DC，额还是喜欢看着屏幕拍照，只有迫不得已的情况下才用那个光学取景器。
与下反观瞄配套的热像在发现和识别距离上与西方同期坦克热像有一定的差距。
车长周视瞄准只有白光和微光通道，车长对于战场形式的感知能力一般。也许我们不必苛求，要知道豹二也是在A5以后才上车长热像的。
车内信息化水平一般，当然额不知道三代大改预研上取得的成果是否应用到后期交付的几批99里面。
军迷们受某人三代坦克专辑的荼毒很深，中国125坦克炮/弹只处于当今世界坦克炮的中上水平（额只和米帝和德国的120比）远远未达到世界第一的水平。某人的什么穿深960只是个神话，现实中我国125能达到800就很牛了（估算，换算某数据），当然米帝和德国也不会好太多。99和96的125由于炮的不同，威力也是不同的，两者差距相当于83-105和94-105的威力差距。现实中99使用现役某弹的数据在600-700之间(具体的额不说）
负责任的说一句，额们已经把毛子的2A46系列全面甩开了，毛子2A-46威力最大的和96的125差不多。
瞄导合一，发射炮射导弹，目前额们只有三个型号的装甲车辆可以。99、二代步和100轮突。观瞄能力没有炮射导弹远，几公里的射程都是白搭，额觉得还是老老实实用穿甲弹和破甲弹吧，这个东西还给毛子比较好。
关于底盘，99的传动和发动机勉强达到三代门槛，很多很多的不足，而且底盘的防护能力与本人想象的有一定的差距。关于发动机，额负责任的说一句，99的1200马力发动机和任何国家无关，引进的只是某国的工艺，但实现工艺的手段完全国内自行开发。
传说中的三代大改，额能说的是：三代大改与99的差异很像豹二A4和A6的差异，发动机从1200换了1500，同时全车重量增加了不少。本菜指出的缺点基本得到解决。至于什么城市战坦克不就是挂套件么？
现在在说说96
很多人都喜欢YY96坦克的威力，一直在疑惑为啥出口巴基斯坦的85系列都那么多年了，为啥到90年代末我们才装备了以85系列为原型的96呢？
这个还得从120坦克炮下马说起：
120炮的下马原因很简单，就是内弹道设计不好，炮管长，药室大，导致以此为条件设计的底盘尺寸巨大,进而为了保证机动性得用一台马力巨大的发动机（相对于当时我们的750马力的12150而言）这显然是不可能的。
在120被迫下马后，我国坦克车辆设计人员做出了两个决定。使用对车内空间要求较小的分装125并以从某国获得的125炮为原型研制我国自己的125坦克炮。（火炮设计的门道不是看以什么为原型，而是看自己国家的工业基础和设计手段）另外继续发展从欧洲引进的105炮，使其成为在三代坦克服役前我国坦克的主炮。
应该说当时的125在威力上要比120有一个倒退，120的威力在500以上，而当时毛子的2A46威力只有400左右，所以么在125炮的威力超过120之前，我国是不会装备使用125炮坦克的。
虽然引进的L7 105炮性能一般，但是我们通过100滑的研制，对于这个这个口径火炮的设计积累了很多经验，研制了自用的105坦克炮，并以此为原型发展了若干种型号的105坦克炮，包括88A和59D-2使用的94加长105，发射某弹的威力在500左右。
90年代中期某年后，125坦克炮的高膛压耐受能力大幅度提高，使得125炮的威力大幅度提高，超过了120在台架上的某试验数据。为了避免在三代大量批产之前仍然大量使用老59的尴尬和避免三代技术要求过高而带来的风险问题，决定以85Ⅱ为基础装备威力超过了120的某型125坦克炮的96坦克大规模装备部队。
那个。。。。弱弱的问句，99不是装备的50倍身管125炮么。。。难道偶记错了:L
短管炮重防护样车若干型终极重防护。。。
介个是不是99城管型啊。。。
介个是不是99城管型啊。。。
好像说身管长6412毫米- - -
如果125二期弹在短管125上打出了700毫米多，那么贫铀版（假设有）的二期弹过800也不成问题吧
M829E4的报道
请英文好的高手帮忙翻译一下吧
http://www.dgmarket.com/eproc/np-notice.do?noticeId=2715544
Development and Production of Cartridge, 120mm, M829E4, APFSDS-T
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Country: United States
Notice/Contract Number: fbo:w15qkn-08-x-0696
Publication Date: Jun 22, 2008
Deadline: Jul 7, 2008
Funding Agency: Department of the Army
Buyer: U. S. Army Materiel Command
Original Language: English
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Goods, Works and Services
29640000 - Ammunition
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The US Army Joint Munitions & Lethality Life Cycle Management Command (JM&LLCMC) Acquisition Center, on behalf of the Office of the Project Manager for Maneuver Ammunition Systems (OPM-MAS), is seeking interested sources for the development and production of M829E4 cartridges, 120mm, Armor Piercing, Fin Stabilized, Discarding Sabot Tracer (APFSDS-T) for FY10-FY14. This cartridge is a kinetic energy (KE) round with a depleted uranium (DU) penetrator. The M829E4 is the next generation Line of Sight (LOS) Kinetic Energy round being developed for the Future Combat System Mounted Combat System (FCS MCS) and the Abrams Main Battle Tank. The anticipated procurement will be for System Development and Demonstration (SDD), Low Rate Initial Production, and Full Rate Production of approximately 9,000 deliverable cartridges with deliveries beginning in FY14. Any responsible/interested sources shall submit their qualifications and capabilities no later than 07 July 2008 to: US Army, JM&L LCMC Acquisition Center, AMSML-AQ-MA, Bldg. 10, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ 07806-5000, ATTN: Mr. Geoffrey Cramer, or submit the information electronically to the contract specialist Mr. Jeffrey McEnteer at: jeffrey.mcenteer@us.army.mil. THIS IS NOT A SOLICITATION AND DOES NOT OBLIGATE THE GOVERNMENT TO ISSUE A SOLICITATION. Information submitted should include your organization, personnel, facilities, applicable subcontractor network and past experience to meet specific needs stated above. Include company name, address, telephone number, technical point of contact, item nomenclature, item description, and brochure/literature. Please be advised that the Government will not pay for any information submitted under this announcement. Electronic submittals are preferred. See Numbered Note 25.
Set-aside code: N/A
Contact: Geoffrey Cramer, Contracting Officer, (973) 724-2917
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Email: Geoffrey Cramer (geoffrey.cramer@us.army.mil)
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13--Development and Production of Cartridge, 120mm, M829E4, APFSDS-T
Solicitation Number: W15QKN-08-X-0696
Agency: Department of the Army
Office: U. S. Army Materiel Command
Location: JM&L LCMC Acquisition Center, Picatinny
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The US Army Joint Munitions & Lethality Life Cycle Management Command (JM&LLCMC) Acquisition Center, on behalf of the Office of the Project Manager for Maneuver Ammunition Systems (OPM-MAS), is seeking interested sources for the development and production of M829E4 cartridges, 120mm, Armor Piercing, Fin Stabilized, Discarding Sabot Tracer (APFSDS-T) for FY10-FY14. This cartridge is a kinetic energy (KE) round with a depleted uranium (DU) penetrator. The M829E4 is the next generation Line of Sight (LOS) Kinetic Energy round being developed for the Future Combat System Mounted Combat System (FCS MCS) and the Abrams Main Battle Tank. The anticipated procurement will be for System Development and Demonstration (SDD), Low Rate Initial Production, and Full Rate Production of approximately 9,000 deliverable cartridges with deliveries beginning in FY14. Any responsible/interested sources shall submit their qualifications and capabilities no later than 07 July 2008 to: US Army, JM&L LCMC Acquisition Center, AMSML-AQ-MA, Bldg. 10, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ 07806-5000, ATTN: Mr. Geoffrey Cramer, or submit the information electronically to the contract specialist Mr. Jeffrey McEnteer at: jeffrey.mcenteer@us.army.mil. THIS IS NOT A SOLICITATION AND DOES NOT OBLIGATE THE GOVERNMENT TO ISSUE A SOLICITATION. Information submitted should include your organization, personnel, facilities, applicable subcontractor network and past experience to meet specific needs stated above. Include company name, address, telephone number, technical point of contact, item nomenclature, item description, and brochure/literature. Please be advised that the Government will not pay for any information submitted under this announcement. Electronic submittals are preferred. See Numbered Note 25.
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US ARMY TACOM-Picatinny Procurement Network
Contracting Office Address:
US Army ARDEC, AMSTA-AR-PC, Picatinny Arsenal, New Jersey 07806-5000
Point of Contact(s):
Geoffrey Cramer, Contracting Officer, (973) 724-2917 Geoffrey Cramer
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13--DEVELOPMENT AND PRODUCTION OF CARTRIDGE, 120MM, M829E4, APFSDS-T
Jun 23, 2008 (FedBizOpps via COMTEX) --
NOTICE TYPE: Sources Sought Notice
DATE POSTED: 20-JUN-08
AGENCY: Department of the Army
OFFICE ADDRESS: US ARMY ARDEC, AMSTA-AR-PC, PICATINNY ARSENAL, NEW JERSEY 07806-5000
SUBJECT: 13--Development and Production of Cartridge, 120mm, M829E4, APFSDS-T
CLASSIFICATION CODE: 13 - Ammunition & explosives
SOLICITATION NUMBER: W15QKN-08-X-0696
CONTACT: GEOFFREY CRAMER, CONTRACTING OFFICER, (973) 724-2917 MAILTO:GEOFFREY.CRAMER@US.ARMY.MIL [GEOFFREY CRAMER]
SETASIDE: N/A
NOTICE TEXT: Department of the Army U. S. Army Materiel Command JM& L LCMC ACQUISITION CENTER, PICATINNY The US Army Joint Munitions & Lethality Life Cycle Management Command (JM&LLCMC) Acquisition Center, on behalf of the Office of the Project Manager for Maneuver Ammunition Systems (OPM-MAS), is seeking interested sources for the development and production of M829E4 cartridges, 120mm, Armor Piercing, Fin Stabilized, Discarding Sabot Tracer (APFSDS-T) for FY10-FY14. This cartridge is a kinetic energy (KE) round with a depleted uranium (DU) penetrator. The M829E4 is the next generation Line of Sight (LOS) Kinetic Energy round being developed for the Future Combat System Mounted Combat System (FCS MCS) and the Abrams Main Battle Tank. The anticipated procurement will be for System Development and Demonstration (SDD), Low Rate Initial Production, and Full Rate Production of approximately 9,000 deliverable cartridges with deliveries beginning in FY14. Any responsible/interested sources shall submit their qualifications and capabilities no later than 07 July 2008 to: US Army, JM&L LCMC Acquisition Center, AMSML-AQ-MA, Bldg. 10, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ 07806-5000, ATTN: Mr. Geoffrey Cramer, or submit the information electronically to the contract specialist Mr. Jeffrey McEnteer at: jeffrey.mcenteer@us.army.mil. THIS IS NOT A SOLICITATION AND DOES NOT OBLIGATE THE GOVERNMENT TO ISSUE A SOLICITATION. Information submitted should include your organization, personnel, facilities, applicable subcontractor network and past experience to meet specific needs stated above. Include company name, address, telephone number, technical point of contact, item nomenclature, item description, and brochure/literature. Please be advised that the Government will not pay for any information submitted under this announcement. Electronic submittals are preferred. See Numbered Note 25.
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Development and Production of Cartridge, 120mm, M829E4, APFSDS-T
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Country: United States
Notice/Contract Number: fbo:w15qkn-08-x-0696
Publication Date: Jun 22, 2008
Deadline: Jul 7, 2008
Funding Agency: Department of the Army
Buyer: U. S. Army Materiel Command
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The US Army Joint Munitions & Lethality Life Cycle Management Command (JM&LLCMC) Acquisition Center, on behalf of the Office of the Project Manager for Maneuver Ammunition Systems (OPM-MAS), is seeking interested sources for the development and production of M829E4 cartridges, 120mm, Armor Piercing, Fin Stabilized, Discarding Sabot Tracer (APFSDS-T) for FY10-FY14. This cartridge is a kinetic energy (KE) round with a depleted uranium (DU) penetrator. The M829E4 is the next generation Line of Sight (LOS) Kinetic Energy round being developed for the Future Combat System Mounted Combat System (FCS MCS) and the Abrams Main Battle Tank. The anticipated procurement will be for System Development and Demonstration (SDD), Low Rate Initial Production, and Full Rate Production of approximately 9,000 deliverable cartridges with deliveries beginning in FY14. Any responsible/interested sources shall submit their qualifications and capabilities no later than 07 July 2008 to: US Army, JM&L LCMC Acquisition Center, AMSML-AQ-MA, Bldg. 10, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ 07806-5000, ATTN: Mr. Geoffrey Cramer, or submit the information electronically to the contract specialist Mr. Jeffrey McEnteer at: jeffrey.mcenteer@us.army.mil. THIS IS NOT A SOLICITATION AND DOES NOT OBLIGATE THE GOVERNMENT TO ISSUE A SOLICITATION. Information submitted should include your organization, personnel, facilities, applicable subcontractor network and past experience to meet specific needs stated above. Include company name, address, telephone number, technical point of contact, item nomenclature, item description, and brochure/literature. Please be advised that the Government will not pay for any information submitted under this announcement. Electronic submittals are preferred. See Numbered Note 25.
Set-aside code: N/A
Contact: Geoffrey Cramer, Contracting Officer, (973) 724-2917
Link To Document
Email: Geoffrey Cramer (geoffrey.cramer@us.army.mil)
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https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=oppo ... b=core&_cview=0
13--Development and Production of Cartridge, 120mm, M829E4, APFSDS-T
Solicitation Number: W15QKN-08-X-0696
Agency: Department of the Army
Office: U. S. Army Materiel Command
Location: JM&L LCMC Acquisition Center, Picatinny
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Original Synopsis
Jun 20, 2008
7:00 pm Solicitation Number:
W15QKN-08-X-0696
Notice Type:
Sources Sought
Synopsis:
Added: Jun 20, 2008 10:42 am
The US Army Joint Munitions & Lethality Life Cycle Management Command (JM&LLCMC) Acquisition Center, on behalf of the Office of the Project Manager for Maneuver Ammunition Systems (OPM-MAS), is seeking interested sources for the development and production of M829E4 cartridges, 120mm, Armor Piercing, Fin Stabilized, Discarding Sabot Tracer (APFSDS-T) for FY10-FY14. This cartridge is a kinetic energy (KE) round with a depleted uranium (DU) penetrator. The M829E4 is the next generation Line of Sight (LOS) Kinetic Energy round being developed for the Future Combat System Mounted Combat System (FCS MCS) and the Abrams Main Battle Tank. The anticipated procurement will be for System Development and Demonstration (SDD), Low Rate Initial Production, and Full Rate Production of approximately 9,000 deliverable cartridges with deliveries beginning in FY14. Any responsible/interested sources shall submit their qualifications and capabilities no later than 07 July 2008 to: US Army, JM&L LCMC Acquisition Center, AMSML-AQ-MA, Bldg. 10, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ 07806-5000, ATTN: Mr. Geoffrey Cramer, or submit the information electronically to the contract specialist Mr. Jeffrey McEnteer at: jeffrey.mcenteer@us.army.mil. THIS IS NOT A SOLICITATION AND DOES NOT OBLIGATE THE GOVERNMENT TO ISSUE A SOLICITATION. Information submitted should include your organization, personnel, facilities, applicable subcontractor network and past experience to meet specific needs stated above. Include company name, address, telephone number, technical point of contact, item nomenclature, item description, and brochure/literature. Please be advised that the Government will not pay for any information submitted under this announcement. Electronic submittals are preferred. See Numbered Note 25.
Additional Info:
US ARMY TACOM-Picatinny Procurement Network
Contracting Office Address:
US Army ARDEC, AMSTA-AR-PC, Picatinny Arsenal, New Jersey 07806-5000
Point of Contact(s):
Geoffrey Cramer, Contracting Officer, (973) 724-2917 Geoffrey Cramer
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13--DEVELOPMENT AND PRODUCTION OF CARTRIDGE, 120MM, M829E4, APFSDS-T
Jun 23, 2008 (FedBizOpps via COMTEX) --
NOTICE TYPE: Sources Sought Notice
DATE POSTED: 20-JUN-08
AGENCY: Department of the Army
OFFICE ADDRESS: US ARMY ARDEC, AMSTA-AR-PC, PICATINNY ARSENAL, NEW JERSEY 07806-5000
SUBJECT: 13--Development and Production of Cartridge, 120mm, M829E4, APFSDS-T
CLASSIFICATION CODE: 13 - Ammunition & explosives
SOLICITATION NUMBER: W15QKN-08-X-0696
CONTACT: GEOFFREY CRAMER, CONTRACTING OFFICER, (973) 724-2917 MAILTO:GEOFFREY.CRAMER@US.ARMY.MIL [GEOFFREY CRAMER]
SETASIDE: N/A
NOTICE TEXT: Department of the Army U. S. Army Materiel Command JM& L LCMC ACQUISITION CENTER, PICATINNY The US Army Joint Munitions & Lethality Life Cycle Management Command (JM&LLCMC) Acquisition Center, on behalf of the Office of the Project Manager for Maneuver Ammunition Systems (OPM-MAS), is seeking interested sources for the development and production of M829E4 cartridges, 120mm, Armor Piercing, Fin Stabilized, Discarding Sabot Tracer (APFSDS-T) for FY10-FY14. This cartridge is a kinetic energy (KE) round with a depleted uranium (DU) penetrator. The M829E4 is the next generation Line of Sight (LOS) Kinetic Energy round being developed for the Future Combat System Mounted Combat System (FCS MCS) and the Abrams Main Battle Tank. The anticipated procurement will be for System Development and Demonstration (SDD), Low Rate Initial Production, and Full Rate Production of approximately 9,000 deliverable cartridges with deliveries beginning in FY14. Any responsible/interested sources shall submit their qualifications and capabilities no later than 07 July 2008 to: US Army, JM&L LCMC Acquisition Center, AMSML-AQ-MA, Bldg. 10, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ 07806-5000, ATTN: Mr. Geoffrey Cramer, or submit the information electronically to the contract specialist Mr. Jeffrey McEnteer at: jeffrey.mcenteer@us.army.mil. THIS IS NOT A SOLICITATION AND DOES NOT OBLIGATE THE GOVERNMENT TO ISSUE A SOLICITATION. Information submitted should include your organization, personnel, facilities, applicable subcontractor network and past experience to meet specific needs stated above. Include company name, address, telephone number, technical point of contact, item nomenclature, item description, and brochure/literature. Please be advised that the Government will not pay for any information submitted under this announcement. Electronic submittals are preferred. See Numbered Note 25.
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