超级军网小巴论坛对FC-1首飞评论之结选
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According to this guy anyways
Courtesy of Altavista:
Super Seven flies today!
根据这个家伙的消息，超7已于今日首飞
FC-1 finished 1st flight. It lasted 15 mins According to Santa, for those of you who don't know, he is a moderator and usually his information is quite reliable.
Link at CMF
超7已完成首飞！根据SANTA的消息，首飞共持续15分钟。 SANTA比较低调，所以他的消息应该是可靠的！
Waiting for more information.
期待更多详情
This is getting interesting !
现在正变得越来越有意思了
First Picture
已经有了第一张照片
NO WAY! Holy Crap! Its flying! I can't believe my eyes! Hawt Damn!
不可能，我靠，它真的在飞呢！不敢相信我的眼睛，牛X
Damn my link does not work. Can anybody post the picture here ? I don't know how to do it in this forum.
怎么我的链接不行，有人能帮我发一下吗？我不会用这个聊天是的粘贴
The link isnt working.
Please post the picture on the forum!
现在链接没问题了，
Is there any one who can prove its not a PS....I just cannot believe !!! Alltheway, if it is not PS...than MUbarak to every one,
会不会是PS的，真的不敢相信！！！如果是真的，向每个人祝贺
It works. The link works.
Holy shit I cant believe this baby is flying. I had given up hope on it. OMG this thing is flying.
连接可以了，我靠，我简直不相信这个宝贝在飞，曾经以为没戏了。OMG 看看它在飞\呢
Waiting for details...who flew it? why was it not on newspapers or net before ??
更多详情，拜托，谁在试飞这架飞机，为什么以前报纸上没有报道
Before? Just happened
We are watching history right now
Or listening to it through power of Chinese internet
“以前”？这是刚发生的事情，我们在见证历史，或者说是在利用中国强大的业余网友的帮助
(更多稍后上传)According to this guy anyways
Courtesy of Altavista:
Super Seven flies today!
根据这个家伙的消息，超7已于今日首飞
FC-1 finished 1st flight. It lasted 15 mins According to Santa, for those of you who don't know, he is a moderator and usually his information is quite reliable.
Link at CMF
超7已完成首飞！根据SANTA的消息，首飞共持续15分钟。 SANTA比较低调，所以他的消息应该是可靠的！
Waiting for more information.
期待更多详情
This is getting interesting !
现在正变得越来越有意思了
First Picture
已经有了第一张照片
NO WAY! Holy Crap! Its flying! I can't believe my eyes! Hawt Damn!
不可能，我靠，它真的在飞呢！不敢相信我的眼睛，牛X
Damn my link does not work. Can anybody post the picture here ? I don't know how to do it in this forum.
怎么我的链接不行，有人能帮我发一下吗？我不会用这个聊天是的粘贴
The link isnt working.
Please post the picture on the forum!
现在链接没问题了，
Is there any one who can prove its not a PS....I just cannot believe !!! Alltheway, if it is not PS...than MUbarak to every one,
会不会是PS的，真的不敢相信！！！如果是真的，向每个人祝贺
It works. The link works.
Holy shit I cant believe this baby is flying. I had given up hope on it. OMG this thing is flying.
连接可以了，我靠，我简直不相信这个宝贝在飞，曾经以为没戏了。OMG 看看它在飞\呢
Waiting for details...who flew it? why was it not on newspapers or net before ??
更多详情，拜托，谁在试飞这架飞机，为什么以前报纸上没有报道
Before? Just happened
We are watching history right now
Or listening to it through power of Chinese internet
“以前”？这是刚发生的事情，我们在见证历史，或者说是在利用中国强大的业余网友的帮助
(更多稍后上传)
Courtesy of Altavista:
Super Seven flies today!
根据这个家伙的消息，超7已于今日首飞
FC-1 finished 1st flight. It lasted 15 mins According to Santa, for those of you who don't know, he is a moderator and usually his information is quite reliable.
Link at CMF
超7已完成首飞！根据SANTA的消息，首飞共持续15分钟。 SANTA比较低调，所以他的消息应该是可靠的！
Waiting for more information.
期待更多详情
This is getting interesting !
现在正变得越来越有意思了
First Picture
已经有了第一张照片
NO WAY! Holy Crap! Its flying! I can't believe my eyes! Hawt Damn!
不可能，我靠，它真的在飞呢！不敢相信我的眼睛，牛X
Damn my link does not work. Can anybody post the picture here ? I don't know how to do it in this forum.
怎么我的链接不行，有人能帮我发一下吗？我不会用这个聊天是的粘贴
The link isnt working.
Please post the picture on the forum!
现在链接没问题了，
Is there any one who can prove its not a PS....I just cannot believe !!! Alltheway, if it is not PS...than MUbarak to every one,
会不会是PS的，真的不敢相信！！！如果是真的，向每个人祝贺
It works. The link works.
Holy shit I cant believe this baby is flying. I had given up hope on it. OMG this thing is flying.
连接可以了，我靠，我简直不相信这个宝贝在飞，曾经以为没戏了。OMG 看看它在飞\呢
Waiting for details...who flew it? why was it not on newspapers or net before ??
更多详情，拜托，谁在试飞这架飞机，为什么以前报纸上没有报道
Before? Just happened
We are watching history right now
Or listening to it through power of Chinese internet
“以前”？这是刚发生的事情，我们在见证历史，或者说是在利用中国强大的业余网友的帮助
(更多稍后上传)According to this guy anyways
Courtesy of Altavista:
Super Seven flies today!
根据这个家伙的消息，超7已于今日首飞
FC-1 finished 1st flight. It lasted 15 mins According to Santa, for those of you who don't know, he is a moderator and usually his information is quite reliable.
Link at CMF
超7已完成首飞！根据SANTA的消息，首飞共持续15分钟。 SANTA比较低调，所以他的消息应该是可靠的！
Waiting for more information.
期待更多详情
This is getting interesting !
现在正变得越来越有意思了
First Picture
已经有了第一张照片
NO WAY! Holy Crap! Its flying! I can't believe my eyes! Hawt Damn!
不可能，我靠，它真的在飞呢！不敢相信我的眼睛，牛X
Damn my link does not work. Can anybody post the picture here ? I don't know how to do it in this forum.
怎么我的链接不行，有人能帮我发一下吗？我不会用这个聊天是的粘贴
The link isnt working.
Please post the picture on the forum!
现在链接没问题了，
Is there any one who can prove its not a PS....I just cannot believe !!! Alltheway, if it is not PS...than MUbarak to every one,
会不会是PS的，真的不敢相信！！！如果是真的，向每个人祝贺
It works. The link works.
Holy shit I cant believe this baby is flying. I had given up hope on it. OMG this thing is flying.
连接可以了，我靠，我简直不相信这个宝贝在飞，曾经以为没戏了。OMG 看看它在飞\呢
Waiting for details...who flew it? why was it not on newspapers or net before ??
更多详情，拜托，谁在试飞这架飞机，为什么以前报纸上没有报道
Before? Just happened
We are watching history right now
Or listening to it through power of Chinese internet
“以前”？这是刚发生的事情，我们在见证历史，或者说是在利用中国强大的业余网友的帮助
(更多稍后上传)
继续：
FC-1 1st fight took about 15-17 min, it was very successfull , just about 2 hours ago
FC1首飞持续了15-17分钟，试飞非常成功，2小时以前刚刚结束
The link works.
There is no doubt that it is FC-1/JF-17. It has to be a very good PS if it were. It is fierce looking in the air. You can almost tell the long rador receiver on the nose which F-16 does not have. looks somewhat like F-16 but better looking. it's very different view when flying compared to the taxi one which looks more subdued.
连接没问题，绝对是超7，如果是PS，那可作得太好了。它在空中的样子真的棒极了。从它的机头尺寸判断，一定装了远程雷达装置。看上去有些象F16，但比F16更好看。和滑跑试验的照片比有了很大的不同
Its 1 o clock and now i dont even wanna sleep. gonna wait for some more information.
I cant beleive this thing is flying
现在是凌晨1点可我\甚至都不想睡觉，必须多撑一会希望有更多的消息，我真的不敢相信这是真的
This is history in the making
The rebirth of MIG 33
Slap in the face of US
Power of determination
As soon as I make my $20 million I'll order one for my self
这是正在创造的历史时刻，是MIG33的在生，是给美国人的响亮耳光，是决心的力量。等我挣了2000万美刀，就给自己买一驾
FC-1 1st fight took about 15-17 min, it was very successfull , just about 2 hours ago
FC1首飞持续了15-17分钟，试飞非常成功，2小时以前刚刚结束
The link works.
There is no doubt that it is FC-1/JF-17. It has to be a very good PS if it were. It is fierce looking in the air. You can almost tell the long rador receiver on the nose which F-16 does not have. looks somewhat like F-16 but better looking. it's very different view when flying compared to the taxi one which looks more subdued.
连接没问题，绝对是超7，如果是PS，那可作得太好了。它在空中的样子真的棒极了。从它的机头尺寸判断，一定装了远程雷达装置。看上去有些象F16，但比F16更好看。和滑跑试验的照片比有了很大的不同
Its 1 o clock and now i dont even wanna sleep. gonna wait for some more information.
I cant beleive this thing is flying
现在是凌晨1点可我\甚至都不想睡觉，必须多撑一会希望有更多的消息，我真的不敢相信这是真的
This is history in the making
The rebirth of MIG 33
Slap in the face of US
Power of determination
As soon as I make my $20 million I'll order one for my self
这是正在创造的历史时刻，是MIG33的在生，是给美国人的响亮耳光，是决心的力量。等我挣了2000万美刀，就给自己买一驾
George Fernandes will have a heart attack! He was bitching about six C-130s, wait 'till he gets a load of this!
George Fernandes会犯心脏病的，他还在6架C130上纠缠不清，等他看到一堆超7时，会是什么样子
(我也不知谁是George Fernandes)
I meant why was the news of its first flight going to happen not on net before?
QUOTE
“As soon as I make my $20 million I'll order one for my self ”
Well, I can get it for 15 MIllion Dollars for you...are you ready to save your 5 Million, but than I will have 1 miilion as my "commision"...
我是说为什么网上没有有关试飞的早期报道。顺便说一句，我可以给你1500万，但你自己可以搞定另外500万吗？当然这里面有我100万回扣
Remember this is non-official to make sure everything go well before TV and bigshots. Regular Chinese guys just too excited and took pictures and that is what we see. Maybe some get in trouble too
Official flight will happen in front of bigshots
So you may not find official news until that happens.
请记住这是非官方来源在电视和特写以前的报道，普通的中国人看到试飞后非常激动，并照了一些照片，这就是我们从网上看到的。可能有些人会为此
惹上麻烦。
Many Many Congratulations to all fellow Chinese and Pakistanis
祝贺所有的巴基斯坦和中国朋友
QUOTE
As soon as I make my $20 million I'll order one for my self
Lower the price to 12 mill per piece and buy 50 of these babies. 1 mill per piece your commission gauranteed
“等我挣了2000万美刀，就给自己买一驾”-- 要是能降到1200万一驾， 买50架你的回扣就有保障了
http://pic.top81.com.cn/top81/mdkP1040498.JPG
this one should confirm it
George Fernandes会犯心脏病的，他还在6架C130上纠缠不清，等他看到一堆超7时，会是什么样子
(我也不知谁是George Fernandes)
I meant why was the news of its first flight going to happen not on net before?
QUOTE
“As soon as I make my $20 million I'll order one for my self ”
Well, I can get it for 15 MIllion Dollars for you...are you ready to save your 5 Million, but than I will have 1 miilion as my "commision"...
我是说为什么网上没有有关试飞的早期报道。顺便说一句，我可以给你1500万，但你自己可以搞定另外500万吗？当然这里面有我100万回扣
Remember this is non-official to make sure everything go well before TV and bigshots. Regular Chinese guys just too excited and took pictures and that is what we see. Maybe some get in trouble too
Official flight will happen in front of bigshots
So you may not find official news until that happens.
请记住这是非官方来源在电视和特写以前的报道，普通的中国人看到试飞后非常激动，并照了一些照片，这就是我们从网上看到的。可能有些人会为此
惹上麻烦。
Many Many Congratulations to all fellow Chinese and Pakistanis
祝贺所有的巴基斯坦和中国朋友
QUOTE
As soon as I make my $20 million I'll order one for my self
Lower the price to 12 mill per piece and buy 50 of these babies. 1 mill per piece your commission gauranteed
“等我挣了2000万美刀，就给自己买一驾”-- 要是能降到1200万一驾， 买50架你的回扣就有保障了
http://pic.top81.com.cn/top81/mdkP1040498.JPG
this one should confirm it
So this is a leaked picture? Even if it is, who cares! As long as its real, and it certainly looks like its real!
这是一张泄密的照片吗？就算是也没人在乎，只要他是真的就行，看上去的确象真的
some rumors from a couple of days ago said some very high ranking pak officials (even mushy himself) would show up for a big hoopla of "the first flight."
i didn't spread that here since it's just a rumor. let's wait for the so-called "first flight" on tv.
前两天有消息说军方的高层官员甚至目杀拉副会亲自出席“首飞”仪式，我并没有转播这个消息因为它只是一个谣传。让我们等到所谓首飞进行时在从电视上欣赏巴
Naa bhaee, You were ready to get it for 20 Million, I came in between and offered you for 15 Million, you should be thankful to me ....no more downprices. ..there are many other costomers tooo. ..give me reply soon, or else you may fine shortage...
Jooking....
嘿Naa bhaee,你准备付2000万吗，我插一手只收你1500万，你该感激我了巴。。不能再降了。。还有很多客户的订单呢。。。赶快答复我否则就没货了。。。开个玩笑
这是一张泄密的照片吗？就算是也没人在乎，只要他是真的就行，看上去的确象真的
some rumors from a couple of days ago said some very high ranking pak officials (even mushy himself) would show up for a big hoopla of "the first flight."
i didn't spread that here since it's just a rumor. let's wait for the so-called "first flight" on tv.
前两天有消息说军方的高层官员甚至目杀拉副会亲自出席“首飞”仪式，我并没有转播这个消息因为它只是一个谣传。让我们等到所谓首飞进行时在从电视上欣赏巴
Naa bhaee, You were ready to get it for 20 Million, I came in between and offered you for 15 Million, you should be thankful to me ....no more downprices. ..there are many other costomers tooo. ..give me reply soon, or else you may fine shortage...
Jooking....
嘿Naa bhaee,你准备付2000万吗，我插一手只收你1500万，你该感激我了巴。。不能再降了。。还有很多客户的订单呢。。。赶快答复我否则就没货了。。。开个玩笑
Yes, nice and big
It has same missiles as pciture of 01 prototype on black and white taxing picture
Oh you must paste in url to see
Many thanks to Austin!
照片又大又清晰，和滑跑试验时所挂的导弹一样，你必须把URL复制才能看到，多谢AUSTIN
This a great! Can't wait for the PAF to get it's hands on them.
And someone please delete that topic about the test flight being delayed!!!
太好了，我已经等不及让巴基斯坦空军参与到它的建造中。另外，请斑竹把那张试飞被延误的贴子删了八
What a brilliant day, first we kicked India's @$$ in hockey now this
真是令人愉快的一天，先是我们的曲棍球队收拾了印度杂种，现在又加上这个好消息
So how long will it take for Pakistan to get a batch of these babies?
那么什么时候巴基斯坦才能够收到第一批超7呢？
Good every one enjoy the feast
过节了
Man of Courage,
You're not supposed to post pics in this forum! ! !
Man of Courage,你真胆大，这个坛子是不让贴图片的
C'mon man, no need to shout orders on a happy day like this.
C'mon man,没必要在这个大喜的日子喊叫巴
Don't do it today, its a party time, happy time and let everyone be happy....
今天没关系，这是一个应该PARTY的时候，快乐的时光所有人都应快乐
Catic is currently making 12 Fc-1s for Pakistan's AF. they should be delivered by 2004.
Catic正在为巴基斯坦建造12架FC1，应该在2004年前交付
I wasn't shouting any orders but ok, I see your point. Sorry if I spoiled the party guys!!!
我没喊叫，但理解你的意思，抱歉搅了大家的兴致
Wait a minute....don`t know why I smell a bad rat in it....I know its damn not good to post such comments on a momment like this...but please, I don`t know why I susspect the Air Intakes and Pilot canopy to be not on the same place as it is shown on the development planes or on the taxi planes...I really hope this is not true, but please members are requested to check there record of images to clarify my suspect, while I pray this is not true !!!
等一下，不只为什么我总感到有些不对劲。我知道现在说这个可能有些不合适，可是我觉得进气道和座舱的位置好象和以前的照片不一样。真希望这不是真的，但还是再对照一下比较好，希望我是错的
Don't you worry bro, the plane is 100% FC-1/JF-17.
别担心兄弟，照片上100%是FC1。
Guys, notice one more thing in the picture that the landing gear is still down! A clear sign of a short test flight. All new planes that are flying for the first time keep the landing gear down to be on the safe side.
各位，注意照片中飞机的起落架一直放下--试飞的最明显标致。所有新飞机在首飞是都是放下起落架的
It has same missiles as pciture of 01 prototype on black and white taxing picture
Oh you must paste in url to see
Many thanks to Austin!
照片又大又清晰，和滑跑试验时所挂的导弹一样，你必须把URL复制才能看到，多谢AUSTIN
This a great! Can't wait for the PAF to get it's hands on them.
And someone please delete that topic about the test flight being delayed!!!
太好了，我已经等不及让巴基斯坦空军参与到它的建造中。另外，请斑竹把那张试飞被延误的贴子删了八
What a brilliant day, first we kicked India's @$$ in hockey now this
真是令人愉快的一天，先是我们的曲棍球队收拾了印度杂种，现在又加上这个好消息
So how long will it take for Pakistan to get a batch of these babies?
那么什么时候巴基斯坦才能够收到第一批超7呢？
Good every one enjoy the feast
过节了
Man of Courage,
You're not supposed to post pics in this forum! ! !
Man of Courage,你真胆大，这个坛子是不让贴图片的
C'mon man, no need to shout orders on a happy day like this.
C'mon man,没必要在这个大喜的日子喊叫巴
Don't do it today, its a party time, happy time and let everyone be happy....
今天没关系，这是一个应该PARTY的时候，快乐的时光所有人都应快乐
Catic is currently making 12 Fc-1s for Pakistan's AF. they should be delivered by 2004.
Catic正在为巴基斯坦建造12架FC1，应该在2004年前交付
I wasn't shouting any orders but ok, I see your point. Sorry if I spoiled the party guys!!!
我没喊叫，但理解你的意思，抱歉搅了大家的兴致
Wait a minute....don`t know why I smell a bad rat in it....I know its damn not good to post such comments on a momment like this...but please, I don`t know why I susspect the Air Intakes and Pilot canopy to be not on the same place as it is shown on the development planes or on the taxi planes...I really hope this is not true, but please members are requested to check there record of images to clarify my suspect, while I pray this is not true !!!
等一下，不只为什么我总感到有些不对劲。我知道现在说这个可能有些不合适，可是我觉得进气道和座舱的位置好象和以前的照片不一样。真希望这不是真的，但还是再对照一下比较好，希望我是错的
Don't you worry bro, the plane is 100% FC-1/JF-17.
别担心兄弟，照片上100%是FC1。
Guys, notice one more thing in the picture that the landing gear is still down! A clear sign of a short test flight. All new planes that are flying for the first time keep the landing gear down to be on the safe side.
各位，注意照片中飞机的起落架一直放下--试飞的最明显标致。所有新飞机在首飞是都是放下起落架的
mashallaha kia kubsurat f-sola ka bahi hay. to all u guys its a big day for pak lets pray for our af they get this baby soon and up up and up
欢呼。。。
go china , go pakistan
pak cheen dosti zindabad
中国加油，巴基斯坦加油。。。
Beautiful bird! Congratulations guys
真是一头好鸟，恭喜拉
AllahoAkbar
Pakistan Zindabad
(这个我不懂，估计是伊斯兰祝贺的语言)
damnit....
I cant stop smiling....
is the landing gear out, btw???
太好了，我都笑得合不拢了，另外，起落架放下了吗？
Indeed it is. Standard practice/precautionary measure for first flights.
的确放下了，典型的试飞防范措施
ABSOLUTELY A TREAT TO EYES
真养眼呀
Why the hell Pakistani sources didnt reported about its flight???????
Anyways. Congrats to all.
为什么巴基斯坦媒体没有报道
Man,its just sooooooooooooo beautiful
BTW Did any news source confirm this?
简直太美了，有人能证实这个消息吗
The RD-93 smokes heavily just like RD-33.
RD93和RD33一样喷烟呀
guys keep them coming, they our just making the day brighter and better. Long live China, Long live Pakistan, and Long live our friendship
弟兄们结着发图，越多越好，中国万岁，巴基斯坦万岁，中巴友谊万岁
欢呼。。。
go china , go pakistan
pak cheen dosti zindabad
中国加油，巴基斯坦加油。。。
Beautiful bird! Congratulations guys
真是一头好鸟，恭喜拉
AllahoAkbar
Pakistan Zindabad
(这个我不懂，估计是伊斯兰祝贺的语言)
damnit....
I cant stop smiling....
is the landing gear out, btw???
太好了，我都笑得合不拢了，另外，起落架放下了吗？
Indeed it is. Standard practice/precautionary measure for first flights.
的确放下了，典型的试飞防范措施
ABSOLUTELY A TREAT TO EYES
真养眼呀
Why the hell Pakistani sources didnt reported about its flight???????
Anyways. Congrats to all.
为什么巴基斯坦媒体没有报道
Man,its just sooooooooooooo beautiful
BTW Did any news source confirm this?
简直太美了，有人能证实这个消息吗
The RD-93 smokes heavily just like RD-33.
RD93和RD33一样喷烟呀
guys keep them coming, they our just making the day brighter and better. Long live China, Long live Pakistan, and Long live our friendship
弟兄们结着发图，越多越好，中国万岁，巴基斯坦万岁，中巴友谊万岁
再翻就吐了
后面还有一些有关印度论坛反映的评论，如果大家感兴趣，明天就再贴一些
你会翻译小巴的文字？
那个论坛的贴图区...简直是超大分部
因为那边的中国人80%是咱们CD的……还有一些巴基斯坦人和韩国人也在我们这里长期翻帖子
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这个是小巴的英文论坛！
还有吗???期待中..
At first it resembled J-8 ... but ...
CONGRATS !!
PAKISTAN ZINDABAAD
NAARA-E-TAKBEER ..
一开始以为是J8，可再一看。。。
Theres been too much rumour mongering and PS images over the months, so I'm gonna remain skeptical until official PAF *confirmation*.
Nonetheless, just for the hell of it in case I miss the party......
最近流传的PS图太多拉，所以在巴基斯坦官方证实以前我还是有些怀疑，不过，我还是欢呼一下(假设我是错的)
QUOTE (akwafresh @ Aug 25 2003, 09:11 AM)
Catic is currently making 12 Fc-1s for Pakistan's AF. they should be delivered by 2004.
Whats the source for that?
12 aircraft is a large number for a fighter just being born. Flight testing will take 2-3 years before the FC1 is certified and requires less than several aircraft.
So why would PAF need 12 for 2004?
“Catic正在为巴基斯坦建造12架FC1，应该在2004年前交付”
请问这个消息的来源是哪里？12架对於一个新试飞的型号来说多了些，在取得试航证和批量生产以前，光试飞就要花2-3年，为何巴基斯坦空军在2004年前要12架呢？
Parallel testing, I assume?
我猜是为试飞制造的。
Any official news?
有官方消息了吗？
Source is likely CHinese military aviation
Here is some excerpts
Also SD-10 on FC-1 :
中国军事航空网已经证实，还有一些有关FC-1携带SD10的评论
This is a monumental and proud moment for PAF and Pakistan. Should be on the news.
Any Official confirmation from Chaklala?
这时一个令巴基斯坦人民和空军自豪的历史性时刻，新闻应该报道，有官方消息吗？
MashAllah.
May Allah bless all those scientists and engineers who made this day possible. This is a huge step for the aviation industry of Pakistan and InshAllah Pakistan will once again show a middle finger to the LCA, similar to the one shown to Arjun tank.
Let's mark this day in our hearts and our minds to remember that Pakistan is a Nation of courageous and skillfull people who can turn out to be triumphant in any challenge given to them.
May Allah bless Pakistan, for it has given us our identity and our freedom.
Ameen !!
让真主赐福于所有为试飞成功作出贡献的科学家和工程师们，对於巴基斯坦的航空工业来说，这是巨大的一步，巴基斯坦人民可以再一次自豪的象向印度的LCA竖起中指，正如以前对阿穷竖起中指一样。让我们在心中铭记这一天，这次成功表明巴基斯坦是一个勇敢和智慧的民族，可以接受任何挑战。让真主赐福于巴基斯坦，因为他给了我们独立自主，阿门
CONGRATS !!
PAKISTAN ZINDABAAD
NAARA-E-TAKBEER ..
一开始以为是J8，可再一看。。。
Theres been too much rumour mongering and PS images over the months, so I'm gonna remain skeptical until official PAF *confirmation*.
Nonetheless, just for the hell of it in case I miss the party......
最近流传的PS图太多拉，所以在巴基斯坦官方证实以前我还是有些怀疑，不过，我还是欢呼一下(假设我是错的)
QUOTE (akwafresh @ Aug 25 2003, 09:11 AM)
Catic is currently making 12 Fc-1s for Pakistan's AF. they should be delivered by 2004.
Whats the source for that?
12 aircraft is a large number for a fighter just being born. Flight testing will take 2-3 years before the FC1 is certified and requires less than several aircraft.
So why would PAF need 12 for 2004?
“Catic正在为巴基斯坦建造12架FC1，应该在2004年前交付”
请问这个消息的来源是哪里？12架对於一个新试飞的型号来说多了些，在取得试航证和批量生产以前，光试飞就要花2-3年，为何巴基斯坦空军在2004年前要12架呢？
Parallel testing, I assume?
我猜是为试飞制造的。
Any official news?
有官方消息了吗？
Source is likely CHinese military aviation
Here is some excerpts
Also SD-10 on FC-1 :
中国军事航空网已经证实，还有一些有关FC-1携带SD10的评论
This is a monumental and proud moment for PAF and Pakistan. Should be on the news.
Any Official confirmation from Chaklala?
这时一个令巴基斯坦人民和空军自豪的历史性时刻，新闻应该报道，有官方消息吗？
MashAllah.
May Allah bless all those scientists and engineers who made this day possible. This is a huge step for the aviation industry of Pakistan and InshAllah Pakistan will once again show a middle finger to the LCA, similar to the one shown to Arjun tank.
Let's mark this day in our hearts and our minds to remember that Pakistan is a Nation of courageous and skillfull people who can turn out to be triumphant in any challenge given to them.
May Allah bless Pakistan, for it has given us our identity and our freedom.
Ameen !!
让真主赐福于所有为试飞成功作出贡献的科学家和工程师们，对於巴基斯坦的航空工业来说，这是巨大的一步，巴基斯坦人民可以再一次自豪的象向印度的LCA竖起中指，正如以前对阿穷竖起中指一样。让我们在心中铭记这一天，这次成功表明巴基斯坦是一个勇敢和智慧的民族，可以接受任何挑战。让真主赐福于巴基斯坦，因为他给了我们独立自主，阿门
以下是引用olsonxixi在2003-8-28 6:50:00的发言：
那个论坛的贴图区...简直是超大分部
超大没有的图他都有,哈哈.
If there is a link to a video of the first flight I would like to have it.
A very proud momment for Pakistan and China Indeed. Can some one post more pictures??
Best regards to all
如果有试飞的录像就好了，这是令巴基斯坦和中国自豪的一刻，有更多的照片吗？祝贺所有人
Many congratulations to all my Pakistani and chinese brothers. From the last few pics you can definately say there's no doubt as to the birds flight.
Hopefully soon we'll see an official flight for an official celebration but both ssai mubarak to everyone
热烈祝贺所有的巴基斯坦和中国兄弟，从最新的一张照片来看，这绝对是超7没有任何疑问，希望我们可以很快看到官方的试飞和庆祝仪式，祝贺所有人
yeeehaaaa. This is good news. Although the testing will continue for 2 years before any inductions are made.
Mods can you please delete my topic named "Fc1 flight delayed again". I guess I was wrong about the delay. It was August 25th afterall.
(欢呼)真是个好消息，尽管试飞还要进行2年，MOD你能把我的有关FC1试飞被推迟的帖子删掉吗，我想我是错了，不过毕竟今天已经是25号了
12 will b inducted in 2004 for testing i think if that is the case we could begin assebling/light manufacture at pac in 2005. the chendhu plant has a capcity of 50 planes in a year it is a 20 year old factory. if pac is upgraded with latest manufacturing techniques we could probaly make 20-30 jets by 2006 and susquently increase the out put keeping in mind that china 2 would b producing these birds @ 50 planes a year at least 50% based on Pkaistans input would b for our PAF
meaning (optomistic figure as today i have that right ) 25 (from china)+ 12 intial planes +20~30 in pakistan =20+12+25= 57 planes by 2006 @ 18 planes a squadran = 3.33 squadrans hehehehehh
now we better start producing the t (long rang BVR missile with data link) , S (medium range sam without data link surface fired), R (ammram like 25 km bvr) datrers in Pakistan the factory should b setup as the highest priority. We should start producting at the earliest
2004年应有12架交付巴基斯坦进行试飞，如果我没错的话巴基斯坦应在2005年开始自行建造FC1，成都厂每年有50架的生产能力，但这个工厂已经是20年的老厂了。如果我们能够以最新的加工工艺升级本土的工厂，我们在2006年前大约将能建造23-30\架，不要忘记与此同时中国也以每年50架的速度建造，其中一半确保提供给巴基斯坦空军，这样，乐观的讲，我们在2006年将拥有：25(中国生产)+12(原型)+20-30(巴基斯坦生产)=20+12+25=57架，以18架一个大队算，可以有3。33个大队的FC1。呵呵呵呵呵呵呵
现在我们需要马上开始生产远程BVR导弹和数据链，中程SAM导弹，以及短程的导弹，越早越好
A very proud momment for Pakistan and China Indeed. Can some one post more pictures??
Best regards to all
如果有试飞的录像就好了，这是令巴基斯坦和中国自豪的一刻，有更多的照片吗？祝贺所有人
Many congratulations to all my Pakistani and chinese brothers. From the last few pics you can definately say there's no doubt as to the birds flight.
Hopefully soon we'll see an official flight for an official celebration but both ssai mubarak to everyone
热烈祝贺所有的巴基斯坦和中国兄弟，从最新的一张照片来看，这绝对是超7没有任何疑问，希望我们可以很快看到官方的试飞和庆祝仪式，祝贺所有人
yeeehaaaa. This is good news. Although the testing will continue for 2 years before any inductions are made.
Mods can you please delete my topic named "Fc1 flight delayed again". I guess I was wrong about the delay. It was August 25th afterall.
(欢呼)真是个好消息，尽管试飞还要进行2年，MOD你能把我的有关FC1试飞被推迟的帖子删掉吗，我想我是错了，不过毕竟今天已经是25号了
12 will b inducted in 2004 for testing i think if that is the case we could begin assebling/light manufacture at pac in 2005. the chendhu plant has a capcity of 50 planes in a year it is a 20 year old factory. if pac is upgraded with latest manufacturing techniques we could probaly make 20-30 jets by 2006 and susquently increase the out put keeping in mind that china 2 would b producing these birds @ 50 planes a year at least 50% based on Pkaistans input would b for our PAF
meaning (optomistic figure as today i have that right ) 25 (from china)+ 12 intial planes +20~30 in pakistan =20+12+25= 57 planes by 2006 @ 18 planes a squadran = 3.33 squadrans hehehehehh
now we better start producing the t (long rang BVR missile with data link) , S (medium range sam without data link surface fired), R (ammram like 25 km bvr) datrers in Pakistan the factory should b setup as the highest priority. We should start producting at the earliest
2004年应有12架交付巴基斯坦进行试飞，如果我没错的话巴基斯坦应在2005年开始自行建造FC1，成都厂每年有50架的生产能力，但这个工厂已经是20年的老厂了。如果我们能够以最新的加工工艺升级本土的工厂，我们在2006年前大约将能建造23-30\架，不要忘记与此同时中国也以每年50架的速度建造，其中一半确保提供给巴基斯坦空军，这样，乐观的讲，我们在2006年将拥有：25(中国生产)+12(原型)+20-30(巴基斯坦生产)=20+12+25=57架，以18架一个大队算，可以有3。33个大队的FC1。呵呵呵呵呵呵呵
现在我们需要马上开始生产远程BVR导弹和数据链，中程SAM导弹，以及短程的导弹，越早越好
ok I just got more info from my source in the PAF.
This was not the official test flight as I would call it. It was just a technical flight. The official inaugural flight would take place on the 3rd of September in Chendhu. This is when a C-130 carrying PAF officials including CAS would go and witness the flight. So more pictures and media reports would only be available on the 3rd of September (the earliest). Hope this helps.
Congrats to everyone. We have been waiting for this moment for years now!!!
刚刚从我在巴基斯坦空军的朋友得到的小道消息：虽然不是官方的但也差不多。这次试飞是技术性试飞。正式的首飞应在9月3日，那天将有一架C130运送巴基斯坦空军高层官员亲林现场。所以更多的报道和照片将在9月3号以后出现。希望这条消息有所帮助。祝贺所有人。我们等待这一刻已经好几年了
Man the bird really looks awesome, man I can't believe my eyes, BTW why the hell is PTV not showing it?
这架飞机看上去真是帅呆了，真不敢相信我的眼睛，为什么巴基斯坦电视台不做转播呀？
brilliant day for PAF and Pakistan..congratulations to everyone!!!
this'll make the indians have a heart attack now
真是另巴基斯坦空军和人民高兴的一天，祝贺所有人，印度人这下要犯心脏病了
great shot pakistan zinda abad
ITS A GREAT SUCESS FOR THE MUSLIMS OF THE WORLD
巴基斯坦干得好，这是穆斯林世界的巨大成功
(注意这家伙的口气不是巴基斯坦人，这个坛子还有好多来自伊朗和其他伊斯兰国家的)
This the the moment of history for Pakistan aviation industry. Its a feat which will make Pak enemy cry like hell. This is not F16, which was stopped by USA fearing that it might deliver atom bomb on India, this is 100% better than F16. Its 100% better than F16s becuase: 1, Its not only technically better but its a homemade.
All credit goes to China who never let down her friends. They are the real great nation and for Pakistanis, "The Greatest Nation".
Its a limestone in history. I wonder how will those be feeling who masterminded to stop the sell of F16s. They fail to recognise that they are dealing with Pakistan whose best freinds is China.
Congratulate all Chinese and Pakistanis people.
Allah-u-Akbar. Long live China, Pakistan friendship.
这是巴基斯坦航空工业历史性的时刻。这是一个令巴基斯坦的敌人嚎啕的伟大功绩。这不是F16，美国人切断了F16的供应因为怕它被用于向印度投放核弹，但这是一架100%好于F16的飞机，因为它不但有更好的技术而且将由巴基斯坦自行建造。
所有的这些都归功于从未让自己的朋友失望过的中国人，这是一个伟大的国家，对巴基斯坦人民来讲，他是最伟大的。
这是一个里程碑，我想知道那些阻止我们获得F16的人现在怎么想，他们没有认识到巴基斯坦还有一个伟大的朋友--中国。
祝贺所有中国和巴基斯坦人民，中国万岁，中巴友谊万岁
This was not the official test flight as I would call it. It was just a technical flight. The official inaugural flight would take place on the 3rd of September in Chendhu. This is when a C-130 carrying PAF officials including CAS would go and witness the flight. So more pictures and media reports would only be available on the 3rd of September (the earliest). Hope this helps.
Congrats to everyone. We have been waiting for this moment for years now!!!
刚刚从我在巴基斯坦空军的朋友得到的小道消息：虽然不是官方的但也差不多。这次试飞是技术性试飞。正式的首飞应在9月3日，那天将有一架C130运送巴基斯坦空军高层官员亲林现场。所以更多的报道和照片将在9月3号以后出现。希望这条消息有所帮助。祝贺所有人。我们等待这一刻已经好几年了
Man the bird really looks awesome, man I can't believe my eyes, BTW why the hell is PTV not showing it?
这架飞机看上去真是帅呆了，真不敢相信我的眼睛，为什么巴基斯坦电视台不做转播呀？
brilliant day for PAF and Pakistan..congratulations to everyone!!!
this'll make the indians have a heart attack now
真是另巴基斯坦空军和人民高兴的一天，祝贺所有人，印度人这下要犯心脏病了
great shot pakistan zinda abad
ITS A GREAT SUCESS FOR THE MUSLIMS OF THE WORLD
巴基斯坦干得好，这是穆斯林世界的巨大成功
(注意这家伙的口气不是巴基斯坦人，这个坛子还有好多来自伊朗和其他伊斯兰国家的)
This the the moment of history for Pakistan aviation industry. Its a feat which will make Pak enemy cry like hell. This is not F16, which was stopped by USA fearing that it might deliver atom bomb on India, this is 100% better than F16. Its 100% better than F16s becuase: 1, Its not only technically better but its a homemade.
All credit goes to China who never let down her friends. They are the real great nation and for Pakistanis, "The Greatest Nation".
Its a limestone in history. I wonder how will those be feeling who masterminded to stop the sell of F16s. They fail to recognise that they are dealing with Pakistan whose best freinds is China.
Congratulate all Chinese and Pakistanis people.
Allah-u-Akbar. Long live China, Pakistan friendship.
这是巴基斯坦航空工业历史性的时刻。这是一个令巴基斯坦的敌人嚎啕的伟大功绩。这不是F16，美国人切断了F16的供应因为怕它被用于向印度投放核弹，但这是一架100%好于F16的飞机，因为它不但有更好的技术而且将由巴基斯坦自行建造。
所有的这些都归功于从未让自己的朋友失望过的中国人，这是一个伟大的国家，对巴基斯坦人民来讲，他是最伟大的。
这是一个里程碑，我想知道那些阻止我们获得F16的人现在怎么想，他们没有认识到巴基斯坦还有一个伟大的朋友--中国。
祝贺所有中国和巴基斯坦人民，中国万岁，中巴友谊万岁
翻译巴军网上的文章我感觉还不如去翻译中国防务论坛上的文章,那的军友很专业.
可这个巴基斯坦看着更热闹点，有些观点挺有趣的。
BTW，are you talking about chinadefence.com?
BTW，are you talking about chinadefence.com?
呵呵，是啊，真有趣，希望我们的FC1不会让小巴朋友失望
好
呵呵，想看看阿三论坛上的反应～楼主翻译一些吧。谢了！
看了小巴兄弟的反应，楼主不如再上些阿三的吧，开心。
巴基斯坦的兄弟简直乐翻了!hehe![em00]
楼主上些阿三的吧，看看那帮SB怎么说的
"哎呀"出名了...你的图满世界跑.
以下是引用zhwork在2003-8-28 14:24:00的发言：
"哎呀"出名了...你的图满世界跑.
只要AA不找偶麻烦就知足了[em03][em03][em03][em11][em11][em11]
好啊，真主保佑巴基斯坦。
确实很热闹！
猛顶，不过这是真的么？
想看看印度方面的反应，帖主有相关的内容么？谢谢了
[此贴子已经被作者于2003-8-28 17:41:05编辑过]
我在那里呆了两年 对他们的好感真是越来越少：
仿制QW-1的ANZA肩携式防空倒弹也说是自制的(没提过我们)
MBT-2000(AL-KHALID)是由 Taxila重工自制的
说FM-80是法国货；
仿红箭8的导弹也说是自制 ；
天天骂J-7G， Q-5是破烂 还说FC-1 是中国自行设计制造的第一型战机 每当提到FC-1就说是和中国共同研制的， 除了给点钱
他们做什么贡献了？真气死我了
仿制QW-1的ANZA肩携式防空倒弹也说是自制的(没提过我们)
MBT-2000(AL-KHALID)是由 Taxila重工自制的
说FM-80是法国货；
仿红箭8的导弹也说是自制 ；
天天骂J-7G， Q-5是破烂 还说FC-1 是中国自行设计制造的第一型战机 每当提到FC-1就说是和中国共同研制的， 除了给点钱
他们做什么贡献了？真气死我了
顶
QW--1/2是仿制SA--14/16/18系列的
FM80也真就是仿制响尾蛇
我们不也说自行研制吗，不要说别人了，自己先屁股不干净
FM80也真就是仿制响尾蛇
我们不也说自行研制吗，不要说别人了，自己先屁股不干净
本来想翻一些印度论坛的评论，可今天到Bharat rakshak一看，有关FC1的帖子已经都删了。
不过也没什么翻的价值，阿三的评论基本分两类，第一类是认为那些照片100%是PS的，FC1永远也飞不起来，这一类占了90%，
另外一类是表明FC1根本不是LCA的对手，无可比性，大部份阿三认为LCA已全面赶超阵风，部份达到F22的水平，
这一类占10%。
我想我不用多说了巴
不过也没什么翻的价值，阿三的评论基本分两类，第一类是认为那些照片100%是PS的，FC1永远也飞不起来，这一类占了90%，
另外一类是表明FC1根本不是LCA的对手，无可比性，大部份阿三认为LCA已全面赶超阵风，部份达到F22的水平，
这一类占10%。
我想我不用多说了巴
（George Fernandes）
应该是啊三的国防部长！
应该是啊三的国防部长！
这一段比较有意思：
is that a giant dragonfly in the 3rd pic?
第三张照片上怎么有个大蜻蜓呀？
Its indians doing some reconnaissance. ：-)
这是印度人在作侦察呢。 ：-)
Not ordinary indians...but experts from BR forum
这可不是普通的印度人，是来自印度军坛的专家们。
elite Bug section of RAW i guess?
我猜是来自RAW的精英虫虫特工
stop it guys, its killing me now
别说了，我都快笑死了
is that a giant dragonfly in the 3rd pic?
第三张照片上怎么有个大蜻蜓呀？
Its indians doing some reconnaissance. ：-)
这是印度人在作侦察呢。 ：-)
Not ordinary indians...but experts from BR forum
这可不是普通的印度人，是来自印度军坛的专家们。
elite Bug section of RAW i guess?
我猜是来自RAW的精英虫虫特工
stop it guys, its killing me now
别说了，我都快笑死了