美空军参谋长称歼20隐形初级，与F-117相当

就这水平还想玩军备竞赛？

狂妄自大就是走向终结的开始。

这世界上比f117强的还真没几个，然而……

不吹一下35，35就砸手里了

20马赫的超燃冲压发动机呢?

那歼20应该见棱见角

20马赫的超燃冲压发动机呢?
20马赫还隐毛的身，那就是个红外靶子，但是，谁也打不着，天下武功，唯快不破

当然不可同日而语了，35有三炮，遇神杀神………

是哪种牛逼的隐形飞机在东海方向才起飞就被兔子盯上的？

他这也算说漏嘴了吧？

20马赫还隐毛的身，那就是个红外靶子，但是，谁也打不着，天下武功，唯快不破
20马赫也就没啥机动能力了，雷达组网引导导弹打头就好了

就是给本子狗狗打气，35要多买哦，买了就不怕tg

如果美空军参谋长就这水平。。。这明显是看报纸多于看情报，才会得出这么个结论、合着这哥们每天坐办公室，端杯咖啡，看报纸？

这是原文。 其实他主要强调的是F-35的网络作战能力， 在网战的环境下，飞机的平台性能反而不那么重要了。F-117问题是翻译有误， 而且夹带了很多私活，英文好的自己看看就知道了。

The United States Air Force would maintain an “asymmetric” advantage over potential adversaries in the Western Pacific even after the Chinese People’s Liberation Army Air Force inducts the Chengdu J-20 stealth fighter into operational service. That’s the contention of the service’s top uniformed officer—who was asked about the potential geopolitical implications of the introduction of the new Chinese warplane.

“When we apply fifth-generation technology, it’s no longer about a platform, it’s about a family of systems,” Air Force chief of staff Gen. David Goldfein told reporters at the Pentagon on Aug. 10. “It’s about a network and that’s what gives us an asymmetrical advantage, so that why when I hear about an F-35 versus a J-20, it’s almost an irrelevant question.”

Indeed, as Goldfein noted, the Air Force will likely to continue its focus on a family of systems approach where networking and the sharing of data are key instead of fixating on the performance of individual platforms. A direct comparison of the Lockheed Martin F-35 and the J-20—in Goldfein’s view—would harken back to the his days of flying the Lockheed Martin F-117A Nighthawk stealth fighter—which was almost entirely cut off from outside contact when buttoned down to penetrate enemy airspace. “You’ll see us focusing far more on the family of systems and how we connect them together and far less on individual platforms,” Goldfein said.

While Goldfein used the Nighthawk as a comparison—he probably did not intend to suggest that the J-20’s systems are quite as basic as the 1980s-era F-117. While accurate information about the J-20 is scarce, there are indications that the Chinese aircraft is equipped with a phased array radar, a robust electronic warfare systems and an electro-optical/infrared sensor that is similar in concept to the F-35’s systems. However, while it is possible that the Chinese aircraft might have decent sensors—Air Force officials have suggested that the J-20 lacks the “sensor fusion” and networking to be as effective as the F-22 or F-35.

One area that the Chinese are almost certainly lacking is what Air Combat Command commander Gen. Herbert “Hawk” Carlisle once described to me as “spike management.” Fifth-generation aircraft such as the F-22 and F-35 have cockpit displays that indicate to the pilot the various angles and ranges from which their aircraft can be detected and tracked by various enemy radars. The pilots use that information to evade the enemy by making sure to avoid zones where they could be detected and engaged. It is a technology that took decades for the United States to master—through a lot of trial and error.

这是原文。 其实他主要强调的是F-35的网络作战能力， 在网战的环境下，飞机的平台性能反而不那么重要了。F-117问题是翻译有误， 而且夹带了很多私活，英文好的自己看看就知道了。

The United States Air Force would maintain an “asymmetric” advantage over potential adversaries in the Western Pacific even after the Chinese People’s Liberation Army Air Force inducts the Chengdu J-20 stealth fighter into operational service. That’s the contention of the service’s top uniformed officer—who was asked about the potential geopolitical implications of the introduction of the new Chinese warplane.

“When we apply fifth-generation technology, it’s no longer about a platform, it’s about a family of systems,” Air Force chief of staff Gen. David Goldfein told reporters at the Pentagon on Aug. 10. “It’s about a network and that’s what gives us an asymmetrical advantage, so that why when I hear about an F-35 versus a J-20, it’s almost an irrelevant question.”

Indeed, as Goldfein noted, the Air Force will likely to continue its focus on a family of systems approach where networking and the sharing of data are key instead of fixating on the performance of individual platforms. A direct comparison of the Lockheed Martin F-35 and the J-20—in Goldfein’s view—would harken back to the his days of flying the Lockheed Martin F-117A Nighthawk stealth fighter—which was almost entirely cut off from outside contact when buttoned down to penetrate enemy airspace. “You’ll see us focusing far more on the family of systems and how we connect them together and far less on individual platforms,” Goldfein said.

While Goldfein used the Nighthawk as a comparison—he probably did not intend to suggest that the J-20’s systems are quite as basic as the 1980s-era F-117. While accurate information about the J-20 is scarce, there are indications that the Chinese aircraft is equipped with a phased array radar, a robust electronic warfare systems and an electro-optical/infrared sensor that is similar in concept to the F-35’s systems. However, while it is possible that the Chinese aircraft might have decent sensors—Air Force officials have suggested that the J-20 lacks the “sensor fusion” and networking to be as effective as the F-22 or F-35.

One area that the Chinese are almost certainly lacking is what Air Combat Command commander Gen. Herbert “Hawk” Carlisle once described to me as “spike management.” Fifth-generation aircraft such as the F-22 and F-35 have cockpit displays that indicate to the pilot the various angles and ranges from which their aircraft can be detected and tracked by various enemy radars. The pilots use that information to evade the enemy by making sure to avoid zones where they could be detected and engaged. It is a technology that took decades for the United States to master—through a lot of trial and error.

就是在夸耀美军的体系作战能力无人能比。
然而，我们也已经登堂入室了。

说的j20没有数据链似的。不知道量子加密数据通信系统已经实用化部署，马上就要上量子卫星通信了吗？告诉你嗷，量子卫星通信的成功率评估是85%，如果算备份星的话，是96%。

civic 发表于 2016-8-13 04:29
就是给本子狗狗打气，35要多买哦，买了就不怕tg
狗还有的选择吗，md:不买有你好看

        网络能力那么厉害的话不用发展隐形飞机了，只要把这几千亿都用在三代机上升级网络即可。探测不到隐身飞机的网络等于没有网络。

就是在夸耀美军的体系作战能力无人能比。
然而，我们也已经登堂入室了。
骡马宣称f35机队可以做到雷达信息即时共享，如果真是这样，对付只能靠本机雷达的20确实会形成优势

怎么不哭穷了？年度预算拿完了？中国威胁论呢？

有这么个货做参谋长也是醉了。这货凭什么说20的隐身跟117差不多？难不成他完全知道20的各项参数？

骡马宣称f35机队可以做到雷达信息即时共享，如果真是这样，对
你确定20没有数据链？你确定20是单机雷达？没有共享联机功能？
说的自己懂得好多一样
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那歼20应该见棱见角
美弟说：鸭翼就是棱，全动尾翼就是角。不要不服。

歼20就是红旗那个SUV，F35就是凯迪拉克XTS，各有千秋吧

你确定20没有数据链？你确定20是单机雷达？没有共享联机功能？
说的自己懂得好多一样
公开信息，我军用的是link16,不具备这种功能，美国佬也说了，他们也是几十年努力才做到了这一步，所以常理推测我们还做不到很合逻辑。

20马赫也就没啥机动能力了，雷达组网引导导弹打头就好了
想想大气层20马赫，靠地平线的掩护就能超神。

While Goldfein used the Nighthawk as a comparison—he probably did not intend to suggest that the J-20’s systems are quite as basic as the 1980s-era F-117. While accurate information about the J-20 is scarce, there are indications that the Chinese aircraft is equipped with a phased array radar, a robust electronic warfare systems and an electro-optical/infrared sensor that is similar in concept to the F-35’s systems. However, while it is possible that the Chinese aircraft might have decent sensors—Air Force officials have suggested that the J-20 lacks the “sensor fusion” and networking to be as effective as the F-22 or F-35.

人家的意思是J－20没有数据链，而不是J－20的隐形性能连F－117都不如。

说的j20没有数据链似的。不知道量子加密数据通信系统已经实用化部署，马上就要上量子卫星通信了吗？告诉你 ...
大神，数据链/量子加密和隐形有什么关系？这个不懂。

有这么个货做参谋长也是醉了。这货凭什么说20的隐身跟117差不多？难不成他完全知道20的各项参数？
明显出来忽悠的。如果这货真心水平如此，那么兔子空军做梦都要笑醒。

骡马宣称f35机队可以做到雷达信息即时共享，如果真是这样，对付只能靠本机雷达的20确实会形成优势

修改相关软件和系统j20也能一样做到，而且j20有更大的空间装载相关系统。

此外我们有量子通讯系统可以用。

是哪种牛逼的隐形飞机在东海方向才起飞就被兔子盯上的？
闭嘴，让人家说下去！

公开信息，我军用的是link16,不具备这种功能，美国佬也说了，他们也是几十年努力才做到了这一步，所以常 ...
什么时候公开的信息？

骡马宣称f35机队可以做到雷达信息即时共享，如果真是这样，对付只能靠本机雷达的20确实会形成优势
其实这个概念应该不难，在雷达终端处理加个接口

117可是为了强化隐身把其他的都放弃了

我怎么记得117的隐身性能是比22还好的啊

发动机我们是承认落后的但现在的隐身技术，应该差距不会有三十年
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lengyuefox 发表于 2016-8-13 05:27
这是原文。 其实他主要强调的是F-35的网络作战能力， 在网战的环境下，飞机的平台性能反而不那么重要了。F- ...
你就做做好事翻译一下嘛。

想想大气层20马赫，靠地平线的掩护就能超神。
所以需要雷达组网啊。国土大或者四面环海可以把雷达靠前布置，空间不足看不到“地平线下”的就只能叫好哥哥了

无所谓啊 只要能在空中看见爱抚娘娘就行