伊朗国防部长访俄可能签署Su-30战斗机采购协议、该国也 ...

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伊朗国防部长侯赛因·达赫甘即将于本月16日访俄,同俄方商讨交付S-300防空导弹以及采购Su-30战斗机事宜。。。并很有可能签署采购协议

Iran, Russia Likely to Sign Su-30 Warplane Deal Next Week: Source
News ID: 998311 Service: Defense
February, 11, 2016 - 15:32
جنگنده سوخو 30
TEHRAN (Tasnim) – Iran’s Defense Minister Brigadier General Hossein Dehqan will probably sign a contract in his forthcoming trip to Moscow on Tehran’s purchase of Russian-made Sukhoi Su-30 fighter jets, a Russian source announced Thursday.

Sputnik quoted a source in Iran’s Defense Ministry as saying on Thursday that General Dehqan will go to Moscow on February 16 to discuss Russia’s delivery of S-300 air defense missile system to Iran as well as purchase of Su-30 Flanker multirole jet fighters.

“Minister Dehqan is taking a number of the Defense Ministry’s representatives to the Russian capital to meet with their Russian colleagues and other highly-ranked officials,” the source said.

During the upcoming meeting, the minister plans to discuss Iran’s need for the Su-30 and sign a contract on its delivery, the report added.

“The last stages will be discussed of delivering Iran the S-300 complex, the first part of which should arrive before the end of next month, and the second by the end of June. Minister Dehqan will also discuss the delivery of Su-30 airplanes because the Defense Ministry believes the Iranian Air Force needs this type of plane. We’ve moved far in these discussions of purchases and I think that during the upcoming visit a contract will be signed,” the source told Sputnik.

Iran and Russia in recent years have boosted their cooperation in various defense fields including the supply of military equipment. In the most recent case, Russia started delivering the S-300 missile defense system to Iran in late 2015.

Back in October last year, General Dehqan highlighted the significance of defense collaborations between Tehran and Moscow, especially under the current circumstances in the region.

“The current situation necessitates that Iran and Russia, through the political wills of the two countries’ leaders, develop their cooperation in political, economic, and defense fields,” General Dehqan said at the time.

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伊朗国防部长侯赛因·达赫甘即将于本月16日访俄,同俄方商讨交付S-300防空导弹以及采购Su-30战斗机事宜。。。并很有可能签署采购协议

Iran, Russia Likely to Sign Su-30 Warplane Deal Next Week: Source
News ID: 998311 Service: Defense
February, 11, 2016 - 15:32
جنگنده سوخو 30
TEHRAN (Tasnim) – Iran’s Defense Minister Brigadier General Hossein Dehqan will probably sign a contract in his forthcoming trip to Moscow on Tehran’s purchase of Russian-made Sukhoi Su-30 fighter jets, a Russian source announced Thursday.

Sputnik quoted a source in Iran’s Defense Ministry as saying on Thursday that General Dehqan will go to Moscow on February 16 to discuss Russia’s delivery of S-300 air defense missile system to Iran as well as purchase of Su-30 Flanker multirole jet fighters.

“Minister Dehqan is taking a number of the Defense Ministry’s representatives to the Russian capital to meet with their Russian colleagues and other highly-ranked officials,” the source said.

During the upcoming meeting, the minister plans to discuss Iran’s need for the Su-30 and sign a contract on its delivery, the report added.

“The last stages will be discussed of delivering Iran the S-300 complex, the first part of which should arrive before the end of next month, and the second by the end of June. Minister Dehqan will also discuss the delivery of Su-30 airplanes because the Defense Ministry believes the Iranian Air Force needs this type of plane. We’ve moved far in these discussions of purchases and I think that during the upcoming visit a contract will be signed,” the source told Sputnik.

Iran and Russia in recent years have boosted their cooperation in various defense fields including the supply of military equipment. In the most recent case, Russia started delivering the S-300 missile defense system to Iran in late 2015.

Back in October last year, General Dehqan highlighted the significance of defense collaborations between Tehran and Moscow, especially under the current circumstances in the region.

“The current situation necessitates that Iran and Russia, through the political wills of the two countries’ leaders, develop their cooperation in political, economic, and defense fields,” General Dehqan said at the time.

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伊国防部长在电视访谈中称,将向俄国谈判授权组装生产Su-30。。。
并补充道J-10也曾进入考虑之列,但最终放弃。。。

http://alert5.com/2016/02/11/ira ... -assembly-of-su-30/

Iran to negotiate for local assembly of Su-30, rejects J-10
During a interview with TV2 IRIB, Iran’s Defense Minister Hossein Dehghan said Tehran is negotiating with Moscow for license production of the Su-30 fighter.


访谈视频
https://youtu.be/fYG4ZZmH1FA

Dehghan added that the Chinese J-10 was considered but rejected.

Air-to-air with a Russian Air Force Sukhoi Su-30SM By Alex Beltyukov


伊国防部长在电视访谈中称,将向俄国谈判授权组装生产Su-30。。。
并补充道J-10也曾进入考虑之列,但最终放弃。。。

http://alert5.com/2016/02/11/ira ... -assembly-of-su-30/

Iran to negotiate for local assembly of Su-30, rejects J-10
During a interview with TV2 IRIB, Iran’s Defense Minister Hossein Dehghan said Tehran is negotiating with Moscow for license production of the Su-30 fighter.


访谈视频
https://youtu.be/fYG4ZZmH1FA

Dehghan added that the Chinese J-10 was considered but rejected.

Air-to-air with a Russian Air Force Sukhoi Su-30SM By Alex Beltyukov

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波斯这笔军火订单估计很可观,不知会不会赶超三哥。。。
侧位家族不愧是毛子的外销利器







波斯这笔军火订单估计很可观,不知会不会赶超三哥。。。
侧位家族不愧是毛子的外销利器

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真是可惜了,这么大一笔单子
不论鼓噪枭龙也好  还是鼓噪J10出口也罢  都低估了埃及和伊朗的地区性大国雄心  光靠便宜那不行、那不够
不要老惦记外销,把自己基础打牢才是正事。真正发展到那一步,一切水到渠成。
今天听天书 发表于 2016-2-11 23:16
真是可惜了,这么大一笔单子
一点不惊讶  用惯了波斯猫的伊朗看不上歼十的短腿和武器挂载能力
歼十于波斯 相当于 米格29于中国
不论鼓噪枭龙也好  还是鼓噪J10出口也罢  都低估了埃及和伊朗的地区性大国雄心  光靠便宜那不行、那不够
我国又不能站出来给他们撑腰,交保护费给我国有蛋蛋用。
很正常啊  兔子菊花不自主呢,假如毛子同意波斯建生产线组装  波斯一定会欣然接受的,对于毛子来说  三代机时代终将成为明日黄花  能捞一笔是一笔,转让生产线也不是不可能的
J10C当然不会卖给他
不论鼓噪枭龙也好  还是鼓噪J10出口也罢  都低估了埃及和伊朗的地区性大国雄心  光靠便宜那不行、那不够
是啊,想要盛卖也得有疗效看才行啊,光看广告能忽悠着几个凯子?,再说这广告离别的国家的忽悠上还有几十年的差距
说句实话,买j10我们产能也不一定够,中国的生产线哪个没闲着,当然伊朗不满意更关键
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主题善良 发表于 2016-2-11 23:29
我国又不能站出来给他们撑腰,交保护费给我国有蛋蛋用。
近100多年来,波斯没给毛子少卖过,从大锅游戏开始毛子就总是有意无意在最关键时刻掉链子,让波斯抓瞎
我们还有千架二代机呢
pafupafu 发表于 2016-2-11 23:52
近100多年来,波斯没给毛子少卖过,从大锅游戏开始毛子就总是有意无意在最关键时刻掉链子,让波斯抓瞎
那又怎么样呢?中国在该地区没有实际的军事影响力。。。在国际上,大国是稀缺资源,
波斯这笔军火订单估计很可观,不知会不会赶超三哥。。。
侧位家族不愧是毛子的外销利器


玩过波斯猫的会看得上中型机才怪了
fanlisheng 发表于 2016-2-11 23:50
说句实话,买j10我们产能也不一定够,中国的生产线哪个没闲着,当然伊朗不满意更关键

有赚外汇还怕没产能?军贸的价钱岂是国内订单可比的。。。
问题关键还是货比货
伊朗的实战经验和地理环境使得他们更看重双发战机和航程
冯·提尔皮茨 发表于 2016-2-11 23:56
玩过波斯猫的会看得上中型机才怪了

这倒也未必,毕竟米格29也在波斯服役,虽说是海湾战争中捡漏来的
今后换装或许买米格35呢
这倒也未必,毕竟米格29也在波斯服役,虽说是海湾战争中捡漏来的
今后换装或许买米格35呢
伊朗的mig29并非都是来自伊拉克,伊朗买过一个中队
波斯毛拉们为何不买Su-35呢?难道打算将来再买T-50么
唯物 发表于 2016-2-12 00:04
伊朗的mig29并非都是来自伊拉克,伊朗买过一个中队

对。。。忘了这茬了
伊朗的mig29并非都是来自伊拉克,伊朗买过一个中队
那时候被制裁,能买啥算啥,中型机也比较好解释是自卫用

用过重型机的,除非实在没办法是不会要中型机的,这就好像俗话中的once u go black, u never go back
冯·提尔皮茨 发表于 2016-2-12 00:08
那时候被制裁,能买啥算啥,中型机也比较好解释是自卫用

用过重型机的,除非实在没办法是不会要中型机 ...
不可能全装备重型,总会有中型机的位置滴
唯物 发表于 2016-2-12 00:04
伊朗的mig29并非都是来自伊拉克,伊朗买过一个中队
唯物兄,你对网上流传的“伊朗人看不起中国设备与技术,很高冷”这个传言有什么看法?


rejected==》放弃?不懂英语就去找词典。捧毛子就非得要找靠贬低兔子来垫底?按整句的语法分明就是被拒绝 回绝的意思。

rejected==》放弃?不懂英语就去找词典。捧毛子就非得要找靠贬低兔子来垫底?按整句的语法分明就是被拒绝 回绝的意思。

油炸章鱼 发表于 2016-2-12 00:15
rejected==》放弃?不懂英语就去找词典。捧毛子就非得要找靠贬低兔子来垫底?按整句的语法分明就是被拒绝了 ...


哪本词典中reject都不会是褒奖兔子吧
拒绝、拒收、refuse to accept。。。
油炸章鱼 发表于 2016-2-12 00:15
rejected==》放弃?不懂英语就去找词典。捧毛子就非得要找靠贬低兔子来垫底?按整句的语法分明就是被拒绝了 ...


哪本词典中reject都不会是褒奖兔子吧
拒绝、拒收、refuse to accept。。。

vce 发表于 2016-2-12 00:22
哪本词典中reject都不会是褒义兔子哦
拒绝、拒收、refuse to accept。。。难道就比放弃好听了有面了{: ...


天才 毛粉人事连这个被动语态都看不出来?到底谁拒绝谁啊?rejeted by XXX这个短语通常在句子前面已经说明了是什么人什么事的时候是会把BY XXX这段给省略的,懂?哎 初中语法哟。
vce 发表于 2016-2-12 00:22
哪本词典中reject都不会是褒义兔子哦
拒绝、拒收、refuse to accept。。。难道就比放弃好听了有面了{: ...


天才 毛粉人事连这个被动语态都看不出来?到底谁拒绝谁啊?rejeted by XXX这个短语通常在句子前面已经说明了是什么人什么事的时候是会把BY XXX这段给省略的,懂?哎 初中语法哟。

油炸章鱼 发表于 2016-2-12 00:23
天才 毛粉人事连这个被动语态都看不出来?到底谁拒绝谁啊?rejeted by XXX这个短语通常在句子前面已经 ...


因为新闻报导的语句过于简略造成误解,各家报导也有不同说法,目前还不清楚访谈中的波斯原话。。。

这篇美联社报导中,伊朗国防部长reject(否定)的是此前媒体关于同中国谈判购买J10的报导:

http://www.usnews.com/news/world ... er-jets-from-russia
Dehghan also rejected reports that Iran has negotiated the purchase of J10 fighter jets from China.
油炸章鱼 发表于 2016-2-12 00:23
天才 毛粉人事连这个被动语态都看不出来?到底谁拒绝谁啊?rejeted by XXX这个短语通常在句子前面已经 ...


因为新闻报导的语句过于简略造成误解,各家报导也有不同说法,目前还不清楚访谈中的波斯原话。。。

这篇美联社报导中,伊朗国防部长reject(否定)的是此前媒体关于同中国谈判购买J10的报导:

http://www.usnews.com/news/world ... er-jets-from-russia
Dehghan also rejected reports that Iran has negotiated the purchase of J10 fighter jets from China.
那你这标题是不是错了?
油炸章鱼 发表于 2016-2-12 00:39
那你这标题是不是错了?

但是本帖的标题和以下的新闻标题并无矛盾
http://alert5.com/2016/02/11/ira ... -assembly-of-su-30/
Iran to negotiate for local assembly of Su-30, rejects J-10
鸡蛋不能放在一个篮子里,对伊朗来说,国产、中式、俄式各要一些。小型潜艇、新型智能水雷、反舰导弹、各式防空导弹、炮射导弹、雷达、无人机等,当时伊朗发展的重点。
天才 毛粉人事连这个被动语态都看不出来?到底谁拒绝谁啊?rejeted by XXX这个短语通常在句子前面已经 ...
有没有这事存疑,但你这英语理解能力还出来笑别人。。。
山人054 发表于 2016-2-12 01:10
鸡蛋不能放在一个篮子里,对伊朗来说,国产、中式、俄式各要一些。小型潜艇、新型智能水雷、反舰导弹、各式 ...
中式的军用飞机难以在伊朗找到商机,而且伊朗的国产军机需要俄式心脏(比如RD33),中式能提供么?太行敢出口么?
首先波斯猫肯定看不上j10,再者说兔子的发动机还攥在毛子手里想跟人家抢订单也不现实

lothar1 发表于 2016-2-12 01:12
有没有这事存疑,但你这英语理解能力还出来笑别人。。。


Dehghan added that the Chinese J-10 was considered but rejected.
E文想必很好的你也可以对楼主自己红字标出来的这段鸡肠发表一下自己的看法嘛,到底该如何翻译呢?呵呵
lothar1 发表于 2016-2-12 01:12
有没有这事存疑,但你这英语理解能力还出来笑别人。。。


Dehghan added that the Chinese J-10 was considered but rejected.
E文想必很好的你也可以对楼主自己红字标出来的这段鸡肠发表一下自己的看法嘛,到底该如何翻译呢?呵呵

vce 发表于 2016-2-12 00:47
但是本帖的标题和以下的新闻标题并无矛盾
http://alert5.com/2016/02/11/iran-to-negotiate-for-local ...


那你自己举例发出来的几条新闻内容都自相矛盾到底想说明什么?如果你自己都不清楚哪个新闻所表达的意思才是正确的那你取这个标题我能直接举报你造谣吗?我说你非要拿兔子来垫底抹黑有没有说错你?按常理推断这两种从吨位到价钱都完全不同的机型为毛会在同一个项目上直接竞标?按你这标准我是不是也可以认为苏35 苏30都争不过价钱是它三倍多的阵风证明这两货性能不足阵风的三分一?
vce 发表于 2016-2-12 00:47
但是本帖的标题和以下的新闻标题并无矛盾
http://alert5.com/2016/02/11/iran-to-negotiate-for-local ...


那你自己举例发出来的几条新闻内容都自相矛盾到底想说明什么?如果你自己都不清楚哪个新闻所表达的意思才是正确的那你取这个标题我能直接举报你造谣吗?我说你非要拿兔子来垫底抹黑有没有说错你?按常理推断这两种从吨位到价钱都完全不同的机型为毛会在同一个项目上直接竞标?按你这标准我是不是也可以认为苏35 苏30都争不过价钱是它三倍多的阵风证明这两货性能不足阵风的三分一?
买主力战机这东西,首先考虑自己需要不需要有人罩,需要的话哪个大哥罩得住、愿意罩;其次考虑哪种飞机性能好能打赢;然后考虑这飞机能不能买得起,不行的话咬咬牙能不能买得起;最后实在买不起再考虑买次一点的飞机。而现在中国的主力战机在大部分购买国的考虑中连第一关都过不去。
油炸章鱼 发表于 2016-2-12 01:22
Dehghan added that the Chinese J-10 was considered but rejected.
E文想必很好的你也可以对楼主自 ...
别呵呵了,就是楼主翻译的那意思。在看看楼主PO的原文里的。
Iran to negotiate for local assembly of Su-30, rejects J-10
真的,初中英语行不通的。
TG有种先派飞机到叙利亚转一圈再来谈买卖吧