国家利益:空袭IS都快耗完弹药 和大国中俄开战咋整

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美国《国家利益》网站12月7日发表题文章称,3日,《今日美国报》发表了一篇惊人的文章。文中披露,自2014年8月以来美国空军已针对在伊拉克和叙利亚的“伊斯兰国”组织目标投下了超过2万枚炸弹和导弹。据该文说,这项行动耗尽了美国空军的“弹药库存,促使空军满世界寻摸武器并为购买武器寻找资金来源。”

  文章中含有一位国防工业顾问的评论,他感叹美国国会对“国防开支设定上限”导致导弹库存太少。奇怪的是,似乎没人提出更根本的问题:花费巨大却一直未能从战略上摧毁这个非国家敌人,为什么还要求国会拨款进一步增加导弹库存?

  事实上,也许并非是我们没有打败“伊斯兰国”组织那么简单。在耗费2万枚炸弹之后,战略形势可能比首次打击其目标前更糟。根据美联社今年夏天援引的一份报告,来自多个机构的情报估计表明,空袭的第一年不仅没有实现战略目标,“伊斯兰国”的威胁反而增大了。

  据这篇文章说,“情报分析人员认为总体形势已陷入战略僵局:‘伊斯兰国’组织仍是一支资金充裕的极端主义武装,美国能够消灭他们多少,它的队伍就能以同样的速度得到外国圣战分子的补充。与此同时,该组织已经扩大到其他国家,包括利比亚、埃及的西奈半岛和阿富汗”。如果我们只是在把数十亿美元浪费在一个失败的战略上,那将是令人震惊的。但正在产生的第二级和第三级影响似乎没人考虑,而这两种影响使美国的国家安全面临越来越高的风险。



  每一任空军参谋长都告诫国会削减国防预算正在削弱战备,而美国国防部现在将不得不花费数十亿其有限的资金补充迄今已消耗的导弹和炸弹,留给战备和训练的资金更少。不过,另外有一个结果应给予更多考虑。美国耗费如此之多的导弹,使常规部队的导弹所剩无几,万一我们面临一场意外的常规战争,那情况会很危险。

  如果美国为打击一个没有空军、海军或现代陆军的非国家组织已投掷了2万枚炸弹和导弹,那么,对付一个拥有现代武装部队的主要世界强国又可能要耗费多少弹药呢?如果不久的将来,一场始料不及而又不可避免的战争落在我们头上,那该怎么办?“伊斯兰国”组织是一个真实的恐怖威胁,但不是一个关乎美国生存的威胁。对俄罗斯或对中国的一场战争却肯定关乎生存。美国国防部、国会或政府将如何向美国人民解释我们用光了导弹以至于我们的武装力量不能有效地重创敌人?

  这样一种局面对美国和我们的海外利益可能是灾难性的。在一个国防资金“零和”时期,华盛顿重估其对付“伊斯兰国”组织的军事战略是至关重要的。指望我们在不远的将来不会卷入一场常规战争,而把有限的资源浪费在一个目前正在走向失败的战略,会把我们的国家安全置于不必要的风险之中。http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/2015-12-11/0842846247.html

美国《国家利益》网站12月7日发表题文章称,3日,《今日美国报》发表了一篇惊人的文章。文中披露,自2014年8月以来美国空军已针对在伊拉克和叙利亚的“伊斯兰国”组织目标投下了超过2万枚炸弹和导弹。据该文说,这项行动耗尽了美国空军的“弹药库存,促使空军满世界寻摸武器并为购买武器寻找资金来源。”

  文章中含有一位国防工业顾问的评论,他感叹美国国会对“国防开支设定上限”导致导弹库存太少。奇怪的是,似乎没人提出更根本的问题:花费巨大却一直未能从战略上摧毁这个非国家敌人,为什么还要求国会拨款进一步增加导弹库存?

  事实上,也许并非是我们没有打败“伊斯兰国”组织那么简单。在耗费2万枚炸弹之后,战略形势可能比首次打击其目标前更糟。根据美联社今年夏天援引的一份报告,来自多个机构的情报估计表明,空袭的第一年不仅没有实现战略目标,“伊斯兰国”的威胁反而增大了。

  据这篇文章说,“情报分析人员认为总体形势已陷入战略僵局:‘伊斯兰国’组织仍是一支资金充裕的极端主义武装,美国能够消灭他们多少,它的队伍就能以同样的速度得到外国圣战分子的补充。与此同时,该组织已经扩大到其他国家,包括利比亚、埃及的西奈半岛和阿富汗”。如果我们只是在把数十亿美元浪费在一个失败的战略上,那将是令人震惊的。但正在产生的第二级和第三级影响似乎没人考虑,而这两种影响使美国的国家安全面临越来越高的风险。



  每一任空军参谋长都告诫国会削减国防预算正在削弱战备,而美国国防部现在将不得不花费数十亿其有限的资金补充迄今已消耗的导弹和炸弹,留给战备和训练的资金更少。不过,另外有一个结果应给予更多考虑。美国耗费如此之多的导弹,使常规部队的导弹所剩无几,万一我们面临一场意外的常规战争,那情况会很危险。

  如果美国为打击一个没有空军、海军或现代陆军的非国家组织已投掷了2万枚炸弹和导弹,那么,对付一个拥有现代武装部队的主要世界强国又可能要耗费多少弹药呢?如果不久的将来,一场始料不及而又不可避免的战争落在我们头上,那该怎么办?“伊斯兰国”组织是一个真实的恐怖威胁,但不是一个关乎美国生存的威胁。对俄罗斯或对中国的一场战争却肯定关乎生存。美国国防部、国会或政府将如何向美国人民解释我们用光了导弹以至于我们的武装力量不能有效地重创敌人?

  这样一种局面对美国和我们的海外利益可能是灾难性的。在一个国防资金“零和”时期,华盛顿重估其对付“伊斯兰国”组织的军事战略是至关重要的。指望我们在不远的将来不会卷入一场常规战争,而把有限的资源浪费在一个目前正在走向失败的战略,会把我们的国家安全置于不必要的风险之中。
没钱问中国借呗!


不是弹药打完了,是库存的制导弹药快打完了,和常规弹药无关。

美国2016年将采购28000枚制导弹药。海外作战需要7000JDAM,2800枚海尔发,内部需要14000JDAM,4200枚海尔发。

http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940918001406

TEHRAN (FNA)- The US effort against ISIL did little to deter the group, although it did hit hard at the US military's bomb stockpiles, which may not be completely replaced at current procurement rates.
Dumping over 20,000 missiles and bombs on ISIL may have done nothing to contain or reduce the group's size and influence, but could have created issues for the United States' national security, Sputnik reported.

The US 2016 military budget (in the NDAA) allocated, using publicly available costs for estimates, around 7,000 joint direct attack munitions (JDAM) and 2,800 Hellfire missiles to all overseas contingency operations, which include Afghanistan, Yemen and Somalia. For internal procurements, the US plans to purchase around 14,000 JDAM bombs and 4,200 Hellfire missiles.

Not including unguided bombs, most of which appear to be procured for conversion to JDAMs, and small numbers of specialized bombs such as "bunker-busters," this means a total of 28,000 bombs and missiles, compared to 20,000 used against ISIL alone in 14 months.

If a mostly passive effort against ISIL has drained 20,000 bombs and missiles, it is not clear if the new procurements together with increased operations would be enough to keep reserve stockpiles. According to USA Today, the ongoing effort resulted in US Air Force "depleting its stocks of munitions and prompting the service to scour depots around the world for more weapons and to find money to buy them."

"If the US has launched 20,000 bombs and missiles against a non-state actor with no air force, navy, or modern army, how many might be required against a major world power with modern armed forces?" security analyst an retired Lt. Colonel Daniel Davis, wrote in the National Interest.

According to Davis, the issue could mean trouble for the US when encountering more conventional enemies, as the fight against the non-state ISIL has yielded few results despite high cost.

Damage Estimate

The costs of war in terms of economic damage against ISIL are also not on the US' side. One Russian KAB-500S satellite-guided bomb costs around $50,000, while L (laser) and Kr (television-guided) variants are said cost around $20,000, according to publicly available data. Unguided bombs are considered to be valued at the cost of scrap, according to an RBK investigation.

When it comes to targets, a tanker holding 40,000 liters of oil made by Turkish manufacturer Ahmet Dogan Tanker costs around $40,000, according to the company's listings on Alibaba, and holds $5,000 worth of oil, at an assumed price of $20 per barrel that ISIL oil smugglers are able to get for stolen oil. One ground storage tank of the type targeted by Russia's air force is able to hold up to $250,000 worth of oil at that price, not including the cost of the irreplaceable tanker.

For comparison, one US Hellfire missile is said to cost around $100,000, and one JDAM around $25,000, not including the bomb. One Toyota Hilux, another popular procurement for ISIL, costs around $22,000 in the United Arab Emirates.

不是弹药打完了,是库存的制导弹药快打完了,和常规弹药无关。

美国2016年将采购28000枚制导弹药。海外作战需要7000JDAM,2800枚海尔发,内部需要14000JDAM,4200枚海尔发。

http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940918001406

TEHRAN (FNA)- The US effort against ISIL did little to deter the group, although it did hit hard at the US military's bomb stockpiles, which may not be completely replaced at current procurement rates.
Dumping over 20,000 missiles and bombs on ISIL may have done nothing to contain or reduce the group's size and influence, but could have created issues for the United States' national security, Sputnik reported.

The US 2016 military budget (in the NDAA) allocated, using publicly available costs for estimates, around 7,000 joint direct attack munitions (JDAM) and 2,800 Hellfire missiles to all overseas contingency operations, which include Afghanistan, Yemen and Somalia. For internal procurements, the US plans to purchase around 14,000 JDAM bombs and 4,200 Hellfire missiles.

Not including unguided bombs, most of which appear to be procured for conversion to JDAMs, and small numbers of specialized bombs such as "bunker-busters," this means a total of 28,000 bombs and missiles, compared to 20,000 used against ISIL alone in 14 months.

If a mostly passive effort against ISIL has drained 20,000 bombs and missiles, it is not clear if the new procurements together with increased operations would be enough to keep reserve stockpiles. According to USA Today, the ongoing effort resulted in US Air Force "depleting its stocks of munitions and prompting the service to scour depots around the world for more weapons and to find money to buy them."

"If the US has launched 20,000 bombs and missiles against a non-state actor with no air force, navy, or modern army, how many might be required against a major world power with modern armed forces?" security analyst an retired Lt. Colonel Daniel Davis, wrote in the National Interest.

According to Davis, the issue could mean trouble for the US when encountering more conventional enemies, as the fight against the non-state ISIL has yielded few results despite high cost.

Damage Estimate

The costs of war in terms of economic damage against ISIL are also not on the US' side. One Russian KAB-500S satellite-guided bomb costs around $50,000, while L (laser) and Kr (television-guided) variants are said cost around $20,000, according to publicly available data. Unguided bombs are considered to be valued at the cost of scrap, according to an RBK investigation.

When it comes to targets, a tanker holding 40,000 liters of oil made by Turkish manufacturer Ahmet Dogan Tanker costs around $40,000, according to the company's listings on Alibaba, and holds $5,000 worth of oil, at an assumed price of $20 per barrel that ISIL oil smugglers are able to get for stolen oil. One ground storage tank of the type targeted by Russia's air force is able to hold up to $250,000 worth of oil at that price, not including the cost of the irreplaceable tanker.

For comparison, one US Hellfire missile is said to cost around $100,000, and one JDAM around $25,000, not including the bomb. One Toyota Hilux, another popular procurement for ISIL, costs around $22,000 in the United Arab Emirates.
谁信,美弟会弹药耗尽,呵呵呵呵……
忽悠谁呢,以美国得工业能力,想造还不简单。。。又他妈变着法的分军费吧
这个算是赤裸裸的威胁吗,都明说与中俄之间的战争不可避免了。
谁信,美弟会弹药耗尽,呵呵呵呵……
制导弹药还是有数的,14月内几乎打完了20000。不过很快就要采购28000。
美帝正在为销毁几百万颗过时炮弹发愁呢
要钱力作,满篇都是“钱太少,库存不够,国会不给钱”
指桑骂槐,吓唬人呐?
美鳖空军向国会要钱的软文,鉴定完毕。
都带着降落伞投给ISIS了,有美械和培训人员撑腰,对其他国家的威胁肯定大了
其实,俄罗斯的炸弹真可能快用完了
看到这里我就笑了,中国300战斧就搞定了,需要考虑哪么多?看来 美国媒体还是不如贵宾。
鬼才信米畜弹药库存耗尽了呢,中美俄这样的国家,哪家没有一堆又一堆的库存?冷战那时候的生产库存有没有用完都不一定呢
米畜现在写一篇忽悠文都是一石多鸟,哭穷要军费,中俄威胁论
看来IS比中国强太多了,IS2万颗扔下去还越炸越强,所谓中帝300战斧就能搞定。
看来米帝家也有这种无脑的媒体呀
向元老院要钱的老把戏了,美帝真没钱到一艘朱姆沃尔特二十多亿美刀?
这是到年底了问国会要钱的文章吧?!
和民工讨薪一样的节奏?
300战斧这梗不能这么就破了啊!
真和中俄开战弹药一定管够
300战斧足以打败中国
看来is比中国强
不是弹药打完了,是库存的制导弹药快打完了,和常规弹药无关。

美国2016年将采购28000枚制导弹药。海外 ...
问题并不是有木有花完库存
而是用了这么多也不见成效
所以作者担心和中俄打到底能不能管够
嗯,要军费!
看来你的库存吃紧,需要定更多
美国有库存底限,打核大战够用
拉倒吧,IS没有周边逊尼派国家放水撑得住?