超级军网退休金炒股
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/23/china-to-allow-pension-fund-to-invest-in-stock-market-for-first-time
China to allow pension fund to invest instock market for first time
中国将首次允许退休基金投资股市
China has cleared thepath for local authority pension funds to invest in the stock market for thefirst time, potentially channelling hundreds of billions of yuan into thecountry’s struggling Shanghai exchange. After a week of turbulence that sentworld stock markets spiralling to their worst weekly loss for the year, Xinhua,the official news agency, reported on Sunday that under the new rules, the fundwill be allowed to invest up to 30% of its net assets in domestically listedshares.
中国已经为地方退休基金首次投资股市清除了障碍，届时可能将有万亿元进入挣扎中的上海证券交易所。在一周的动荡致使全球股市遭受今年以来最惨烈的损失后，新华社周天报道称在新的规定下退休基金最多可以将自己30%的净资产投资在国内上市的股票上。
The move, which is likely to be seen as abrazen attempt to inject pension cash into the market to shore up prices andrestore investor confidence, comes ahead of several reports that are likely toshow the world’s major economies struggling to recover as China’s mainindustries slowdown.
这一举动可能被视为厚颜无耻的，其目的是为了通过向股市注入退休基金从而提振价格和恢复投资者信心。有报告称，随着中国主要行业的放缓，世界主要经济体的经济复苏陷入了挣扎状态。
Harry Bhai mj50
24 Aug 2015 02:15
0 1
China's economy is growing? Not sure, butChina does picking up huge development projects like power plants, nuclearplants, ports, roads, bridges, or fast railways all over the world, especially,in Asia and Africa.
中国经济在增长？不是很肯定，但中国在巨大的开发项目上做得确实不错，在全世界建设了电站，核电站，港口，道路，桥梁，或者高铁，特别是在亚洲和非洲。
ShanghaiGuy
24 Aug 2015 02:05
0 1
What could possibly go wrong?.....
Genius, use other people's long termsavings to shore up a short term market bubble.
More impressed if Xi and the est of elitecabal had to invest their family fortunes....
会发生什么不测呢？。。。。
真是天才，利用人民的长期储蓄来提振短期的市场泡沫。
如果习及其统治阶层也将自己的家庭财富投资在股市上的话，那就更令人印象深刻了。。。
TheEqlaowaizer virtuallyours
24 Aug 2015 01:33
0 1
Its the only thing that prolongs and keepsthem in power.
（回复楼下）这是他们维持和延长权力的唯一方法。
virtuallyours
24 Aug 2015 00:46
0 1
7% is good by any measure, 10% isunsustainable, the Chinese govt care about one thing: prosperity and stabilitybecause that prolongs and keeps them in power.
无论怎么看，7%都是很好的增长，10%是不可持续的，中国政府只关心一件事情：繁荣和发展，因为这样才能延长和维持权力。
FunctionalAtheist
23 Aug 2015 23:40
0 1
Whatever the advantages of capitalism--andthey are considerable--recessions are inevitable.
China is not a magical. State capitalism isnot a panacea that 'solves' the problem of economic pullbacks.
China is long overdue a real correction,and if it is finally happening--GOOD. It had to happen sometime, and I saybetter sooner than later.
不论资本主义有什么优势（尽管有很多优势），衰退都是不可避免的。
中国并没有魔力。国家资本主义并不是解决经济问题的万能药。
中国早就应该进行一次真正的修正，如果真进行修正的话，那很好。这是不得不发生的，而我认为越快越好。
lakewashington
23 Aug 2015 22:53
2 3
So, Mr Xi is going to gamble the nation'spensions in a desperate and incompetent attempt to control what the marketsthink and do.
So much for the theory that the Chineseonce-party state produces good long-term decision-making.
所以习先生打算利用国家退休基金来控制市场咯。
有一种理论认为中国一党专制下可以产生良好的长期性决策，看来也不过如此。
ID4343194
23 Aug 2015 21:58
2 3
Great. Just how I would want my fundmanagers to spend my pension. Let's continue to prolong the poverty andproblems this crash will cause for a few generations.
很好。我真想让我的基金经理人以这种方式花掉我的退休金呢。让我们继续延长贫困和问题，这次的崩溃将影响到几代人。
mj50
23 Aug 2015 21:53
2 3
Overvalued market due to less investmentopportunities globally apart from high end and medium real estate,
Looks like the shit is about to hit the fanin China, do not believe the Chinese have a plan, they are just making it up asthey go alone at this stage , desperation measures they claim the economy isstill growing at approximately 6% but these figures have to be looked at with acertain amount of scepticism, as they cannot be verified independently, thingsare looking ominous for the global economy .
除了高端和中端的房地产，全球没有其他太多的投资机会，导致市场估价过高。
貌似这将在中国产生严重后果，我不认为中国人有应对的办法，走到这一步他们不得不继续编造下去，他们称他们的经济增长达到6%，但是我们应该对这些数据持怀疑的态度，因为无法对这些数据进行独立的确认，全球经济的前途渺茫啊。
boxoffrogs
23 Aug 2015 21:04
2 3
I wonder how long it will take for thecorporate traders to ransack the pension money?
我想知道的是企业交易员花多少时间就可以将这些退休金洗劫呢？
Harry Bhai
23 Aug 2015 21:00
0 1
It sounds like Chinese pension funds ismore or less becoming like our 401K plan. Good luck people.
貌似中国的退休基金变得有点像我们的401K计划。祝好运。
aapercy
23 Aug 2015 20:48
1 2
China catching up with the West's latestage financialisation at a fair clip.
Once the pensions (society's safety) isinvested in the markets the process is complete. After that it's just watchingplate spinning.
There are alt options, but not until areyou're prepared to rely on your neighbours for your security and see your housevalue decline.
中国正快速追赶上西方最后一个阶段的金融化。
一旦退休基金（社会的安全）投资在市场上，整个过程就算是完成了。
确实存在其他选择，但是你可能得做好准备接受你的邻居给你提供安全以及你的房屋价值下降的局面。
http://www.ltaaa.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=364655&extra=page%3D1&page=1&mobile=1&simpletype=no
人社部：养老基金投资运营对股市会产生一定影响
我要评论
2015年06月30日 13:26:19 来源：中国证券网
养老基金入市对资本市场会产生影响吗？人社部新闻发言人李忠30日对此回应称，“养老保险基金投资运营对股市会产生一定影响，但这种影响是平缓和循序渐进的。”
29日晚，人力资源社会保障部、财政部会同有关部门研究起草了《基本养老保险基金投资管理办法》，正式向社会公开征求意见。其中提到，资股票、股票基金、混合基金、股票型养老金产品的比例，合计不得高于基金资产净值的30%。
在30日人社部举办的新闻发布会上，新闻发言人李忠表示，“这个30%规定的是养老保险基金投资股市的上限比例，重点仍是合理控制投资风险。当然，在实际运营中，进入股市的基金规模和时点不是由政府来直接操作的，而是由授权受托的市场机构来具体运作，而且也不可能很快达到投资比例的上限。”
他同时指出，养老保险基金投资运营对股市会产生一定影响，但这种影响是平缓和循序渐进的。
根据人社部5月底发布的《2014年度人力资源和社会保障事业发展统计公报》数据，2014年末基本养老保险基金累计结存3.56万亿元。
http://news.xinhuanet.com/fortune/2015-06/30/c_127967704.htmhttp://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/23/china-to-allow-pension-fund-to-invest-in-stock-market-for-first-time
China to allow pension fund to invest instock market for first time
中国将首次允许退休基金投资股市
China has cleared thepath for local authority pension funds to invest in the stock market for thefirst time, potentially channelling hundreds of billions of yuan into thecountry’s struggling Shanghai exchange. After a week of turbulence that sentworld stock markets spiralling to their worst weekly loss for the year, Xinhua,the official news agency, reported on Sunday that under the new rules, the fundwill be allowed to invest up to 30% of its net assets in domestically listedshares.
中国已经为地方退休基金首次投资股市清除了障碍，届时可能将有万亿元进入挣扎中的上海证券交易所。在一周的动荡致使全球股市遭受今年以来最惨烈的损失后，新华社周天报道称在新的规定下退休基金最多可以将自己30%的净资产投资在国内上市的股票上。
The move, which is likely to be seen as abrazen attempt to inject pension cash into the market to shore up prices andrestore investor confidence, comes ahead of several reports that are likely toshow the world’s major economies struggling to recover as China’s mainindustries slowdown.
这一举动可能被视为厚颜无耻的，其目的是为了通过向股市注入退休基金从而提振价格和恢复投资者信心。有报告称，随着中国主要行业的放缓，世界主要经济体的经济复苏陷入了挣扎状态。
Harry Bhai mj50
24 Aug 2015 02:15
0 1
China's economy is growing? Not sure, butChina does picking up huge development projects like power plants, nuclearplants, ports, roads, bridges, or fast railways all over the world, especially,in Asia and Africa.
中国经济在增长？不是很肯定，但中国在巨大的开发项目上做得确实不错，在全世界建设了电站，核电站，港口，道路，桥梁，或者高铁，特别是在亚洲和非洲。
ShanghaiGuy
24 Aug 2015 02:05
0 1
What could possibly go wrong?.....
Genius, use other people's long termsavings to shore up a short term market bubble.
More impressed if Xi and the est of elitecabal had to invest their family fortunes....
会发生什么不测呢？。。。。
真是天才，利用人民的长期储蓄来提振短期的市场泡沫。
如果习及其统治阶层也将自己的家庭财富投资在股市上的话，那就更令人印象深刻了。。。
TheEqlaowaizer virtuallyours
24 Aug 2015 01:33
0 1
Its the only thing that prolongs and keepsthem in power.
（回复楼下）这是他们维持和延长权力的唯一方法。
virtuallyours
24 Aug 2015 00:46
0 1
7% is good by any measure, 10% isunsustainable, the Chinese govt care about one thing: prosperity and stabilitybecause that prolongs and keeps them in power.
无论怎么看，7%都是很好的增长，10%是不可持续的，中国政府只关心一件事情：繁荣和发展，因为这样才能延长和维持权力。
FunctionalAtheist
23 Aug 2015 23:40
0 1
Whatever the advantages of capitalism--andthey are considerable--recessions are inevitable.
China is not a magical. State capitalism isnot a panacea that 'solves' the problem of economic pullbacks.
China is long overdue a real correction,and if it is finally happening--GOOD. It had to happen sometime, and I saybetter sooner than later.
不论资本主义有什么优势（尽管有很多优势），衰退都是不可避免的。
中国并没有魔力。国家资本主义并不是解决经济问题的万能药。
中国早就应该进行一次真正的修正，如果真进行修正的话，那很好。这是不得不发生的，而我认为越快越好。
lakewashington
23 Aug 2015 22:53
2 3
So, Mr Xi is going to gamble the nation'spensions in a desperate and incompetent attempt to control what the marketsthink and do.
So much for the theory that the Chineseonce-party state produces good long-term decision-making.
所以习先生打算利用国家退休基金来控制市场咯。
有一种理论认为中国一党专制下可以产生良好的长期性决策，看来也不过如此。
ID4343194
23 Aug 2015 21:58
2 3
Great. Just how I would want my fundmanagers to spend my pension. Let's continue to prolong the poverty andproblems this crash will cause for a few generations.
很好。我真想让我的基金经理人以这种方式花掉我的退休金呢。让我们继续延长贫困和问题，这次的崩溃将影响到几代人。
mj50
23 Aug 2015 21:53
2 3
Overvalued market due to less investmentopportunities globally apart from high end and medium real estate,
Looks like the shit is about to hit the fanin China, do not believe the Chinese have a plan, they are just making it up asthey go alone at this stage , desperation measures they claim the economy isstill growing at approximately 6% but these figures have to be looked at with acertain amount of scepticism, as they cannot be verified independently, thingsare looking ominous for the global economy .
除了高端和中端的房地产，全球没有其他太多的投资机会，导致市场估价过高。
貌似这将在中国产生严重后果，我不认为中国人有应对的办法，走到这一步他们不得不继续编造下去，他们称他们的经济增长达到6%，但是我们应该对这些数据持怀疑的态度，因为无法对这些数据进行独立的确认，全球经济的前途渺茫啊。
boxoffrogs
23 Aug 2015 21:04
2 3
I wonder how long it will take for thecorporate traders to ransack the pension money?
我想知道的是企业交易员花多少时间就可以将这些退休金洗劫呢？
Harry Bhai
23 Aug 2015 21:00
0 1
It sounds like Chinese pension funds ismore or less becoming like our 401K plan. Good luck people.
貌似中国的退休基金变得有点像我们的401K计划。祝好运。
aapercy
23 Aug 2015 20:48
1 2
China catching up with the West's latestage financialisation at a fair clip.
Once the pensions (society's safety) isinvested in the markets the process is complete. After that it's just watchingplate spinning.
There are alt options, but not until areyou're prepared to rely on your neighbours for your security and see your housevalue decline.
中国正快速追赶上西方最后一个阶段的金融化。
一旦退休基金（社会的安全）投资在市场上，整个过程就算是完成了。
确实存在其他选择，但是你可能得做好准备接受你的邻居给你提供安全以及你的房屋价值下降的局面。
http://www.ltaaa.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=364655&extra=page%3D1&page=1&mobile=1&simpletype=no
人社部：养老基金投资运营对股市会产生一定影响
我要评论
2015年06月30日 13:26:19 来源：中国证券网
养老基金入市对资本市场会产生影响吗？人社部新闻发言人李忠30日对此回应称，“养老保险基金投资运营对股市会产生一定影响，但这种影响是平缓和循序渐进的。”
29日晚，人力资源社会保障部、财政部会同有关部门研究起草了《基本养老保险基金投资管理办法》，正式向社会公开征求意见。其中提到，资股票、股票基金、混合基金、股票型养老金产品的比例，合计不得高于基金资产净值的30%。
在30日人社部举办的新闻发布会上，新闻发言人李忠表示，“这个30%规定的是养老保险基金投资股市的上限比例，重点仍是合理控制投资风险。当然，在实际运营中，进入股市的基金规模和时点不是由政府来直接操作的，而是由授权受托的市场机构来具体运作，而且也不可能很快达到投资比例的上限。”
他同时指出，养老保险基金投资运营对股市会产生一定影响，但这种影响是平缓和循序渐进的。
根据人社部5月底发布的《2014年度人力资源和社会保障事业发展统计公报》数据，2014年末基本养老保险基金累计结存3.56万亿元。
http://news.xinhuanet.com/fortune/2015-06/30/c_127967704.htm
China to allow pension fund to invest instock market for first time
中国将首次允许退休基金投资股市
China has cleared thepath for local authority pension funds to invest in the stock market for thefirst time, potentially channelling hundreds of billions of yuan into thecountry’s struggling Shanghai exchange. After a week of turbulence that sentworld stock markets spiralling to their worst weekly loss for the year, Xinhua,the official news agency, reported on Sunday that under the new rules, the fundwill be allowed to invest up to 30% of its net assets in domestically listedshares.
中国已经为地方退休基金首次投资股市清除了障碍，届时可能将有万亿元进入挣扎中的上海证券交易所。在一周的动荡致使全球股市遭受今年以来最惨烈的损失后，新华社周天报道称在新的规定下退休基金最多可以将自己30%的净资产投资在国内上市的股票上。
The move, which is likely to be seen as abrazen attempt to inject pension cash into the market to shore up prices andrestore investor confidence, comes ahead of several reports that are likely toshow the world’s major economies struggling to recover as China’s mainindustries slowdown.
这一举动可能被视为厚颜无耻的，其目的是为了通过向股市注入退休基金从而提振价格和恢复投资者信心。有报告称，随着中国主要行业的放缓，世界主要经济体的经济复苏陷入了挣扎状态。
Harry Bhai mj50
24 Aug 2015 02:15
0 1
China's economy is growing? Not sure, butChina does picking up huge development projects like power plants, nuclearplants, ports, roads, bridges, or fast railways all over the world, especially,in Asia and Africa.
中国经济在增长？不是很肯定，但中国在巨大的开发项目上做得确实不错，在全世界建设了电站，核电站，港口，道路，桥梁，或者高铁，特别是在亚洲和非洲。
ShanghaiGuy
24 Aug 2015 02:05
0 1
What could possibly go wrong?.....
Genius, use other people's long termsavings to shore up a short term market bubble.
More impressed if Xi and the est of elitecabal had to invest their family fortunes....
会发生什么不测呢？。。。。
真是天才，利用人民的长期储蓄来提振短期的市场泡沫。
如果习及其统治阶层也将自己的家庭财富投资在股市上的话，那就更令人印象深刻了。。。
TheEqlaowaizer virtuallyours
24 Aug 2015 01:33
0 1
Its the only thing that prolongs and keepsthem in power.
（回复楼下）这是他们维持和延长权力的唯一方法。
virtuallyours
24 Aug 2015 00:46
0 1
7% is good by any measure, 10% isunsustainable, the Chinese govt care about one thing: prosperity and stabilitybecause that prolongs and keeps them in power.
无论怎么看，7%都是很好的增长，10%是不可持续的，中国政府只关心一件事情：繁荣和发展，因为这样才能延长和维持权力。
FunctionalAtheist
23 Aug 2015 23:40
0 1
Whatever the advantages of capitalism--andthey are considerable--recessions are inevitable.
China is not a magical. State capitalism isnot a panacea that 'solves' the problem of economic pullbacks.
China is long overdue a real correction,and if it is finally happening--GOOD. It had to happen sometime, and I saybetter sooner than later.
不论资本主义有什么优势（尽管有很多优势），衰退都是不可避免的。
中国并没有魔力。国家资本主义并不是解决经济问题的万能药。
中国早就应该进行一次真正的修正，如果真进行修正的话，那很好。这是不得不发生的，而我认为越快越好。
lakewashington
23 Aug 2015 22:53
2 3
So, Mr Xi is going to gamble the nation'spensions in a desperate and incompetent attempt to control what the marketsthink and do.
So much for the theory that the Chineseonce-party state produces good long-term decision-making.
所以习先生打算利用国家退休基金来控制市场咯。
有一种理论认为中国一党专制下可以产生良好的长期性决策，看来也不过如此。
ID4343194
23 Aug 2015 21:58
2 3
Great. Just how I would want my fundmanagers to spend my pension. Let's continue to prolong the poverty andproblems this crash will cause for a few generations.
很好。我真想让我的基金经理人以这种方式花掉我的退休金呢。让我们继续延长贫困和问题，这次的崩溃将影响到几代人。
mj50
23 Aug 2015 21:53
2 3
Overvalued market due to less investmentopportunities globally apart from high end and medium real estate,
Looks like the shit is about to hit the fanin China, do not believe the Chinese have a plan, they are just making it up asthey go alone at this stage , desperation measures they claim the economy isstill growing at approximately 6% but these figures have to be looked at with acertain amount of scepticism, as they cannot be verified independently, thingsare looking ominous for the global economy .
除了高端和中端的房地产，全球没有其他太多的投资机会，导致市场估价过高。
貌似这将在中国产生严重后果，我不认为中国人有应对的办法，走到这一步他们不得不继续编造下去，他们称他们的经济增长达到6%，但是我们应该对这些数据持怀疑的态度，因为无法对这些数据进行独立的确认，全球经济的前途渺茫啊。
boxoffrogs
23 Aug 2015 21:04
2 3
I wonder how long it will take for thecorporate traders to ransack the pension money?
我想知道的是企业交易员花多少时间就可以将这些退休金洗劫呢？
Harry Bhai
23 Aug 2015 21:00
0 1
It sounds like Chinese pension funds ismore or less becoming like our 401K plan. Good luck people.
貌似中国的退休基金变得有点像我们的401K计划。祝好运。
aapercy
23 Aug 2015 20:48
1 2
China catching up with the West's latestage financialisation at a fair clip.
Once the pensions (society's safety) isinvested in the markets the process is complete. After that it's just watchingplate spinning.
There are alt options, but not until areyou're prepared to rely on your neighbours for your security and see your housevalue decline.
中国正快速追赶上西方最后一个阶段的金融化。
一旦退休基金（社会的安全）投资在市场上，整个过程就算是完成了。
确实存在其他选择，但是你可能得做好准备接受你的邻居给你提供安全以及你的房屋价值下降的局面。
http://www.ltaaa.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=364655&extra=page%3D1&page=1&mobile=1&simpletype=no
人社部：养老基金投资运营对股市会产生一定影响
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2015年06月30日 13:26:19 来源：中国证券网
养老基金入市对资本市场会产生影响吗？人社部新闻发言人李忠30日对此回应称，“养老保险基金投资运营对股市会产生一定影响，但这种影响是平缓和循序渐进的。”
29日晚，人力资源社会保障部、财政部会同有关部门研究起草了《基本养老保险基金投资管理办法》，正式向社会公开征求意见。其中提到，资股票、股票基金、混合基金、股票型养老金产品的比例，合计不得高于基金资产净值的30%。
在30日人社部举办的新闻发布会上，新闻发言人李忠表示，“这个30%规定的是养老保险基金投资股市的上限比例，重点仍是合理控制投资风险。当然，在实际运营中，进入股市的基金规模和时点不是由政府来直接操作的，而是由授权受托的市场机构来具体运作，而且也不可能很快达到投资比例的上限。”
他同时指出，养老保险基金投资运营对股市会产生一定影响，但这种影响是平缓和循序渐进的。
根据人社部5月底发布的《2014年度人力资源和社会保障事业发展统计公报》数据，2014年末基本养老保险基金累计结存3.56万亿元。
http://news.xinhuanet.com/fortune/2015-06/30/c_127967704.htmhttp://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/23/china-to-allow-pension-fund-to-invest-in-stock-market-for-first-time
China to allow pension fund to invest instock market for first time
中国将首次允许退休基金投资股市
China has cleared thepath for local authority pension funds to invest in the stock market for thefirst time, potentially channelling hundreds of billions of yuan into thecountry’s struggling Shanghai exchange. After a week of turbulence that sentworld stock markets spiralling to their worst weekly loss for the year, Xinhua,the official news agency, reported on Sunday that under the new rules, the fundwill be allowed to invest up to 30% of its net assets in domestically listedshares.
中国已经为地方退休基金首次投资股市清除了障碍，届时可能将有万亿元进入挣扎中的上海证券交易所。在一周的动荡致使全球股市遭受今年以来最惨烈的损失后，新华社周天报道称在新的规定下退休基金最多可以将自己30%的净资产投资在国内上市的股票上。
The move, which is likely to be seen as abrazen attempt to inject pension cash into the market to shore up prices andrestore investor confidence, comes ahead of several reports that are likely toshow the world’s major economies struggling to recover as China’s mainindustries slowdown.
这一举动可能被视为厚颜无耻的，其目的是为了通过向股市注入退休基金从而提振价格和恢复投资者信心。有报告称，随着中国主要行业的放缓，世界主要经济体的经济复苏陷入了挣扎状态。
Harry Bhai mj50
24 Aug 2015 02:15
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China's economy is growing? Not sure, butChina does picking up huge development projects like power plants, nuclearplants, ports, roads, bridges, or fast railways all over the world, especially,in Asia and Africa.
中国经济在增长？不是很肯定，但中国在巨大的开发项目上做得确实不错，在全世界建设了电站，核电站，港口，道路，桥梁，或者高铁，特别是在亚洲和非洲。
ShanghaiGuy
24 Aug 2015 02:05
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What could possibly go wrong?.....
Genius, use other people's long termsavings to shore up a short term market bubble.
More impressed if Xi and the est of elitecabal had to invest their family fortunes....
会发生什么不测呢？。。。。
真是天才，利用人民的长期储蓄来提振短期的市场泡沫。
如果习及其统治阶层也将自己的家庭财富投资在股市上的话，那就更令人印象深刻了。。。
TheEqlaowaizer virtuallyours
24 Aug 2015 01:33
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Its the only thing that prolongs and keepsthem in power.
（回复楼下）这是他们维持和延长权力的唯一方法。
virtuallyours
24 Aug 2015 00:46
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7% is good by any measure, 10% isunsustainable, the Chinese govt care about one thing: prosperity and stabilitybecause that prolongs and keeps them in power.
无论怎么看，7%都是很好的增长，10%是不可持续的，中国政府只关心一件事情：繁荣和发展，因为这样才能延长和维持权力。
FunctionalAtheist
23 Aug 2015 23:40
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Whatever the advantages of capitalism--andthey are considerable--recessions are inevitable.
China is not a magical. State capitalism isnot a panacea that 'solves' the problem of economic pullbacks.
China is long overdue a real correction,and if it is finally happening--GOOD. It had to happen sometime, and I saybetter sooner than later.
不论资本主义有什么优势（尽管有很多优势），衰退都是不可避免的。
中国并没有魔力。国家资本主义并不是解决经济问题的万能药。
中国早就应该进行一次真正的修正，如果真进行修正的话，那很好。这是不得不发生的，而我认为越快越好。
lakewashington
23 Aug 2015 22:53
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So, Mr Xi is going to gamble the nation'spensions in a desperate and incompetent attempt to control what the marketsthink and do.
So much for the theory that the Chineseonce-party state produces good long-term decision-making.
所以习先生打算利用国家退休基金来控制市场咯。
有一种理论认为中国一党专制下可以产生良好的长期性决策，看来也不过如此。
ID4343194
23 Aug 2015 21:58
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Great. Just how I would want my fundmanagers to spend my pension. Let's continue to prolong the poverty andproblems this crash will cause for a few generations.
很好。我真想让我的基金经理人以这种方式花掉我的退休金呢。让我们继续延长贫困和问题，这次的崩溃将影响到几代人。
mj50
23 Aug 2015 21:53
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Overvalued market due to less investmentopportunities globally apart from high end and medium real estate,
Looks like the shit is about to hit the fanin China, do not believe the Chinese have a plan, they are just making it up asthey go alone at this stage , desperation measures they claim the economy isstill growing at approximately 6% but these figures have to be looked at with acertain amount of scepticism, as they cannot be verified independently, thingsare looking ominous for the global economy .
除了高端和中端的房地产，全球没有其他太多的投资机会，导致市场估价过高。
貌似这将在中国产生严重后果，我不认为中国人有应对的办法，走到这一步他们不得不继续编造下去，他们称他们的经济增长达到6%，但是我们应该对这些数据持怀疑的态度，因为无法对这些数据进行独立的确认，全球经济的前途渺茫啊。
boxoffrogs
23 Aug 2015 21:04
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I wonder how long it will take for thecorporate traders to ransack the pension money?
我想知道的是企业交易员花多少时间就可以将这些退休金洗劫呢？
Harry Bhai
23 Aug 2015 21:00
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It sounds like Chinese pension funds ismore or less becoming like our 401K plan. Good luck people.
貌似中国的退休基金变得有点像我们的401K计划。祝好运。
aapercy
23 Aug 2015 20:48
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China catching up with the West's latestage financialisation at a fair clip.
Once the pensions (society's safety) isinvested in the markets the process is complete. After that it's just watchingplate spinning.
There are alt options, but not until areyou're prepared to rely on your neighbours for your security and see your housevalue decline.
中国正快速追赶上西方最后一个阶段的金融化。
一旦退休基金（社会的安全）投资在市场上，整个过程就算是完成了。
确实存在其他选择，但是你可能得做好准备接受你的邻居给你提供安全以及你的房屋价值下降的局面。
http://www.ltaaa.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=364655&extra=page%3D1&page=1&mobile=1&simpletype=no
人社部：养老基金投资运营对股市会产生一定影响
我要评论
2015年06月30日 13:26:19 来源：中国证券网
养老基金入市对资本市场会产生影响吗？人社部新闻发言人李忠30日对此回应称，“养老保险基金投资运营对股市会产生一定影响，但这种影响是平缓和循序渐进的。”
29日晚，人力资源社会保障部、财政部会同有关部门研究起草了《基本养老保险基金投资管理办法》，正式向社会公开征求意见。其中提到，资股票、股票基金、混合基金、股票型养老金产品的比例，合计不得高于基金资产净值的30%。
在30日人社部举办的新闻发布会上，新闻发言人李忠表示，“这个30%规定的是养老保险基金投资股市的上限比例，重点仍是合理控制投资风险。当然，在实际运营中，进入股市的基金规模和时点不是由政府来直接操作的，而是由授权受托的市场机构来具体运作，而且也不可能很快达到投资比例的上限。”
他同时指出，养老保险基金投资运营对股市会产生一定影响，但这种影响是平缓和循序渐进的。
根据人社部5月底发布的《2014年度人力资源和社会保障事业发展统计公报》数据，2014年末基本养老保险基金累计结存3.56万亿元。
http://news.xinhuanet.com/fortune/2015-06/30/c_127967704.htm
刚新闻里,看到只有3000亿.进入只能起个泡.
退休金还是买点指数型基金吧，低位买进，拿长线。现在不是进的时机。
陈良宇
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先行者啊，实践先于国家政策
先行者啊，实践先于国家政策
bizon 发表于 2015-8-24 14:47
先行者啊，实践先于国家政策
小岗村
先行者啊，实践先于国家政策
小岗村
先行者啊，实践先于国家政策
先行者和先烈可能就是走多走少一步的问题。
先行者和先烈可能就是走多走少一步的问题。
退休金多渠道投资本来就是应该的啊，至于炒股救市什么的是自己想多了