在首飞60年之后这老家伙终于准备要换发了,这是还要再飞 ...

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近日据《航空周刊》报道,美国空军正在研究准备为B-52更换更新的发动机以替换老旧的八台普惠JT3D发动机。。。。
ps:难道有一天我们真的会看见B-52装着四台商用客机的发动机在天上飞{:soso_e127:} {:soso_e127:} {:soso_e127:}



The U.S. Air Force is reviewing industry studies of fitting its 50-year-old Boeing B-52 bombers with new commercial-derivative engines, according to Lt. Gen. Stephen Wilson, commander of the service’s Global Strike Command.

So far, Wilson said Oct. 9 at a Washington meeting, the Air Force assesses that the change would result in a net cost savings over the remaining life of the B-52s, which are expected to fly until 2040.

Wilson did not identify the contractor that made the proposal or whether more than one company is involved. However, an industry source confirms that Boeing has presented a “concept brief” and that General Electric has looked at fitting the bomber with eight CF34-10 engines. Pratt & Whitney also is exploring options.

Fitting new engines would sharply reduce the bombers’ fuel burn, and in turn reduce the need for tanker support, Wilson said. Moreover, under current commercial standards the new engines would not have to be removed for routine maintenance over the lifetime of the aircraft.

Wilson’s Global Strike Command and Air Force Materiel command are examining the proposal; separately, Wilson said he wants his command to become more agile and innovative in terms of procurement and upgrade programs, and that he has worked on learning lessons from Air Force Special Operations Command in this area. One example is the Dragon’s Eye demonstration this summer, in which a Northrop Grumman ASQ-236 radar targeting pod was fitted to a B-52 and flight tested in four weeks.

The main obstacles to a re-engining program could concern budgets and regulations, Wilson says. Airline operating experience would have to be used to support military airworthiness requirements, and the proposal rests on recovering an early investment through lower operating costs. Wilson notes that commanders have budgetary discretion to spend money against future energy savings when they modernize bases and other facilities, but not to modify aircraft.

This represents at least the third attempt to re-engine the B-52, which is powered by eight TF33 engines similar to those used on the Boeing 707.

Pratt & Whitney studied the idea in 1982, with four PW2000-series engines. In 1996 Boeing and Rolls-Royce jointly proposed to fit B-52s with four RB211-535s, with the government leasing the engines. The first plan was not taken up because all B-52s were to be replaced by B-1s and B-2s by the late 1990s, and the second failed because of resistance to leasing combat assets and a flawed economic assessment by the Air Force.

According to a 2004 Defense Science Board report, the USAF failed to take the cost of air refueling into account. At that time, tanker-delivered fuel cost $17.50 per gallon, 14 times the cost of fuel on the ground. The DSB task force “unanimously recommend[ed] the Air Force proceed with B-52H re-engining without delay,” but no action was taken.

“Had we done it all those years ago, we’d be patting ourselves on the back today and telling everyone how smart we were,” Wilson said.

GE’s eight-CF34-10 option could deliver more thrust than the current engines (variants are rated at 17,640-20,360-lb. thrust) and would avoid engine-out handling issues.

Pratt & Whitney announced in May that it was launching the PW1135G-JM, aimed initially at the A321neo and rated at a 35,000-lb. thrust class, slightly more than two TF33s. The new engines would deliver an even greater performance and efficiency improvement than the engines proposed in 1996.

The RB211-535 has been out of production since the end of the Boeing 757 line in 2004, and the last F117s (military PW2000s) are being delivered with the final C-17s, so neither engine is a strong candidate today.http://aviationweek.com/defense/b-52-re-engine-resurfaces-usaf-reviews-studies

近日据《航空周刊》报道,美国空军正在研究准备为B-52更换更新的发动机以替换老旧的八台普惠JT3D发动机。。。。
ps:难道有一天我们真的会看见B-52装着四台商用客机的发动机在天上飞{:soso_e127:} {:soso_e127:} {:soso_e127:}



The U.S. Air Force is reviewing industry studies of fitting its 50-year-old Boeing B-52 bombers with new commercial-derivative engines, according to Lt. Gen. Stephen Wilson, commander of the service’s Global Strike Command.

So far, Wilson said Oct. 9 at a Washington meeting, the Air Force assesses that the change would result in a net cost savings over the remaining life of the B-52s, which are expected to fly until 2040.

Wilson did not identify the contractor that made the proposal or whether more than one company is involved. However, an industry source confirms that Boeing has presented a “concept brief” and that General Electric has looked at fitting the bomber with eight CF34-10 engines. Pratt & Whitney also is exploring options.

Fitting new engines would sharply reduce the bombers’ fuel burn, and in turn reduce the need for tanker support, Wilson said. Moreover, under current commercial standards the new engines would not have to be removed for routine maintenance over the lifetime of the aircraft.

Wilson’s Global Strike Command and Air Force Materiel command are examining the proposal; separately, Wilson said he wants his command to become more agile and innovative in terms of procurement and upgrade programs, and that he has worked on learning lessons from Air Force Special Operations Command in this area. One example is the Dragon’s Eye demonstration this summer, in which a Northrop Grumman ASQ-236 radar targeting pod was fitted to a B-52 and flight tested in four weeks.

The main obstacles to a re-engining program could concern budgets and regulations, Wilson says. Airline operating experience would have to be used to support military airworthiness requirements, and the proposal rests on recovering an early investment through lower operating costs. Wilson notes that commanders have budgetary discretion to spend money against future energy savings when they modernize bases and other facilities, but not to modify aircraft.

This represents at least the third attempt to re-engine the B-52, which is powered by eight TF33 engines similar to those used on the Boeing 707.

Pratt & Whitney studied the idea in 1982, with four PW2000-series engines. In 1996 Boeing and Rolls-Royce jointly proposed to fit B-52s with four RB211-535s, with the government leasing the engines. The first plan was not taken up because all B-52s were to be replaced by B-1s and B-2s by the late 1990s, and the second failed because of resistance to leasing combat assets and a flawed economic assessment by the Air Force.

According to a 2004 Defense Science Board report, the USAF failed to take the cost of air refueling into account. At that time, tanker-delivered fuel cost $17.50 per gallon, 14 times the cost of fuel on the ground. The DSB task force “unanimously recommend[ed] the Air Force proceed with B-52H re-engining without delay,” but no action was taken.

“Had we done it all those years ago, we’d be patting ourselves on the back today and telling everyone how smart we were,” Wilson said.

GE’s eight-CF34-10 option could deliver more thrust than the current engines (variants are rated at 17,640-20,360-lb. thrust) and would avoid engine-out handling issues.

Pratt & Whitney announced in May that it was launching the PW1135G-JM, aimed initially at the A321neo and rated at a 35,000-lb. thrust class, slightly more than two TF33s. The new engines would deliver an even greater performance and efficiency improvement than the engines proposed in 1996.

The RB211-535 has been out of production since the end of the Boeing 757 line in 2004, and the last F117s (military PW2000s) are being delivered with the final C-17s, so neither engine is a strong candidate today.http://aviationweek.com/defense/b-52-re-engine-resurfaces-usaf-reviews-studies
我哭死,我英文不好 楼下 能不能给 翻译成中文啊
卷发千金 发表于 2014-10-29 09:12
我哭死,我英文不好 楼下 能不能给 翻译成中文啊
美国空军进行拟合其50岁的B-52轰炸机的新商业衍生发动机行业研究,根据少尉史蒂芬威尔逊,服务的全球打击司令部司令。
到目前为止,威尔逊说,十月九日在华盛顿召开会议,空军的评估,变化会导致净节省成本的B-52的剩余寿命,预计这将飞到2040。
威尔逊没有确定,提出建议或是否超过一个公司涉及的承包商。然而,一位业内人士证实,波音公司已经提出了一个“概念简介”,通用电气一直看着拟合八cf34-10引擎轰炸机。普惠公司也正在探索。
安装新引擎将大幅减少了轰炸机的燃料燃烧,进而减少空中加油机的支持需要,威尔逊说。此外,目前的商业标准下的新引擎将不会被删除的日常维护在飞机的寿命。
威尔逊的全球打击司令部和空军装备司令部正在研究方案;另外,威尔逊说,他希望他的命令在采购和升级程序方面变得更加灵活和创新的,而且他一直在学习这方面的教训从空军特种作战指挥。一个例子是龙的眼睛示范这个夏天,其中诺斯洛普Grumman asq-236雷达瞄准吊舱被安装到一架B-52和四周的测试飞行。
一个再工程方案的主要障碍可能关注预算制度,威尔逊说。航空公司的运行经验,将用于支持军事适航要求,并建议建立在通过降低运营成本回收的早期投资。威尔逊指出,指挥官的预算决定花钱时对未来的能源节约的现代化基地和其他设施,但不修改的飞机。
这表示至少第三人尝试重新引擎的B-52,它由八tf33引擎类似于用于波音707的供电。
普惠公司在1982研究的思路,四PW2000系列发动机。在1996架波音和劳斯莱斯联合提出的四rb211-535s配合B-52,与政府租赁的引擎。第一项计划是不是因为所有的B-52被b-1s和B-2在1990年代后期所取代,和第二的失败是因为抗租赁资产的战斗空军有缺陷的经济评价。
根据2004的国防科学委员会的报告,美国空军没有空中加油的成本考虑。当时,油轮运送燃料成本每加仑17.50美元,14倍的燃料成本在地面上。DSB特遣队”一致推荐[编]空军继续B-52H重新引擎没有延迟,但没有采取任何行动。
“我们已经做了所有这些年前,我们会拍着自己的背部今天告诉每个人我们有多么聪明,”威尔逊说。
通用电气的eight-cf34-10选项可以提供比目前的发动机推力(变体被评为17640-20360-lb.推力)并将避免发动机处理问题。
普惠公司在5月宣布,它推出pw1135g-jm,最初的目标的A321neo和额定在35000-lb.推力级,略多于两个tf33s。新的引擎将提供一个更高的性能和效率提高了发动机比1996。
该rb211-535已在2004的波音757线结束后被生产出来的,而最后f117s(军事pw2000s)被交付最后一架,所以没有引擎是一个强有力的候选人,今天。(百度翻译)
同等级的轰炸机只要没出现更低使用成本的  这玩意似乎不会退役   一般国家的防空体系很快就被美军摧毁  不构成威胁
说了多少年了,还在研究,研究到他退役吧
六爷表示俺也能再战500年
这老东西真够皮实的……。
很有可能,老美很多东西都能超期服役,而且是翻倍的超期
哪里看见过有些机身蒙皮都皱起来了,真的像一个老人家
以前一直嚷嚷换cfm56
哎,我们连发动机都没得换


当年用了8台!

现在,只求相同推力的话,恐怕一、两台GE90-115B就够了;

普惠YJ57-P-3涡轮喷气发动机,单台推力75.7干牛(7,720千克力);
GE90-115B以115,000磅(52,163千克力)推力取证,测试期间得到过127,900磅(58,014千克力)的记录。

当年用了8台!

现在,只求相同推力的话,恐怕一、两台GE90-115B就够了;

普惠YJ57-P-3涡轮喷气发动机,单台推力75.7干牛(7,720千克力);
GE90-115B以115,000磅(52,163千克力)推力取证,测试期间得到过127,900磅(58,014千克力)的记录。
山塘阿阿 发表于 2014-10-29 12:55
以前一直嚷嚷换cfm56
现在人家说了cf34
那可是和arj21的发动机一个系列咯
TlJdMxFc 发表于 2014-10-29 13:55
当年用了8台!

现在,只求相同推力的话,恐怕一、两台GE90-115B就够了;
人家不是说了8台cf34么……
jy627 发表于 2014-10-29 13:08
哎,我们连发动机都没得换
英雄,何出此言?
这老家伙一起飞就跟拖拉机一样,喷烟吐雾的!
  机体寿命有这么长吗,别飞散架了。
李隆基 发表于 2014-10-29 15:40
机体寿命有这么长吗,别飞散架了。
可能是比较晚生产的批次。
b-52表示:我真的好想再活500年
一看楼主标题我就猜多半是这个飞机....
B-52没换过发么?
兔子的四发大轰什么时候能出来呢?
hdmtcl 发表于 2014-10-29 14:14
现在人家说了cf34
那可是和arj21的发动机一个系列咯
为什么不换成4台cfm56呢
medieval1454 发表于 2014-10-29 15:42
可能是比较晚生产的批次。
最晚的B52H也是62年生产的吧?
MD没有出新的轰炸机,像B-52这种皮厚的要是花少量钱再能用个30年以上,谁不愿意呢。放在那里这货怎么说也是个很实在的威胁。
山塘阿阿 发表于 2014-10-29 16:51
为什么不换成4台cfm56呢
那得问boeing咯
早就可以改了,易用省油
老美飞机的寿命真心长啊,可以使用那么多年,值得TG学习
李隆基 发表于 2014-10-29 15:40
机体寿命有这么长吗,别飞散架了。
不停地用“飞机坟场”里面早年退役的机子上的零部件换。
TlJdMxFc 发表于 2014-10-29 18:44
不停地用“飞机坟场”里面早年退役的机子上的零部件换。
  机身主要结构没法换吧。估计这家伙跟DC3似的结实。
已经明确要求不换四发构型了
52和95真是一对神仙倦侣啊。。。
仍然好用,为何不用。最不败家的其实就是MD
cz9876543210 发表于 2014-10-29 09:14
美国空军进行拟合其50岁的B-52轰炸机的新商业衍生发动机行业研究,根据少尉史蒂芬威尔逊,服务的全球打击 ...
靠,你就这样对付楼上啊,不厚道啊
陆海空天磁 发表于 2014-10-29 21:10
靠,你就这样对付楼上啊,不厚道啊
拜托,我好心帮忙怎么到了你这就变成了对付楼上!
cz9876543210 发表于 2014-10-29 21:13
拜托,我好心帮忙怎么到了你这就变成了对付楼上!
你也别直接拖到谷歌翻译里完事儿啊,尽量组织 一下语言啊。
陆海空天磁 发表于 2014-10-29 21:16
你也别直接拖到谷歌翻译里完事儿啊,尽量组织 一下语言啊。
语文水平有限,看您的了!
其实tg可以学一下B52过去的思路,推力不足4发改6发,再不足6发改8发。前提是要保证油耗比。
自从防区外武器出现后,这老东西就越发得瑟了。
medieval1454 发表于 2014-10-29 15:42
可能是比较晚生产的批次。
最后一架B-52H也是62年出厂的了,这玩意确实是个妖孽。