比利时将采购40架战斗机替换将退役的F16

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消息来自F16.net,比利时现有54架F16,大概是上世纪80年代采购的,新战机从五个机型选择:
闪电2,超级大黄蜂,鹰狮E,双风,预计在2023年交付比利时空军
The debate about whether Belgium should replace it's current fleet of 54 F-16s after they reach their retirement between 2023 and 2031 has been going on since 1999. Since than all governments contained social-democrats and even members of the green parties, who all reject the idea as being too expensive and not necessary. Early in 2014 the Belgian Secretary of Defense (Pieter De Crem) already said that if Belgium wanted to stay a reliable and trustworthy NATO partner, it would have to replace the venerable F-16 at its time. This obviously invoced a large protest by leftist parties at the time. In June of 2014 the Belgian DOD quitly - although reported by in the media - started with preliminary talks with 5 governments and manufacturers about this replacement project. Unbound by politics, they decided this needed to be done in order for the politicians to make a decision when the time arrives.
The RFI was sent to these five parties:
The Joint Program Office (JPO) in charge of the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II program
the Navy Integrated Program Office (NIPO) for the Boeing F/A-18F Super Hornet
the Directorate General of Armaments (DGA) of the French Ministry of Defence for the Dassault Rafale
the Swedish Defence and Security Export Agency (FXM) for the Saab JAS-39 Gripen and
the UK Ministry of Defence for the Eurofighter Typhoon.

Planning stands that these talks will take the entire latter part of 2014 and a large part of 2015 with the Belgian DoD planning to make the internal assessment of all proposals in 2016 and request for a formal LOI that would make a government decision possible in 2018. This way the new aircraft would find its way to the Belgian Air Force starting in 2023。
消息源:http://www.f-16.net/f-16-news-article4882.html消息来自F16.net,比利时现有54架F16,大概是上世纪80年代采购的,新战机从五个机型选择:
闪电2,超级大黄蜂,鹰狮E,双风,预计在2023年交付比利时空军
The debate about whether Belgium should replace it's current fleet of 54 F-16s after they reach their retirement between 2023 and 2031 has been going on since 1999. Since than all governments contained social-democrats and even members of the green parties, who all reject the idea as being too expensive and not necessary. Early in 2014 the Belgian Secretary of Defense (Pieter De Crem) already said that if Belgium wanted to stay a reliable and trustworthy NATO partner, it would have to replace the venerable F-16 at its time. This obviously invoced a large protest by leftist parties at the time. In June of 2014 the Belgian DOD quitly - although reported by in the media - started with preliminary talks with 5 governments and manufacturers about this replacement project. Unbound by politics, they decided this needed to be done in order for the politicians to make a decision when the time arrives.
The RFI was sent to these five parties:
The Joint Program Office (JPO) in charge of the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II program
the Navy Integrated Program Office (NIPO) for the Boeing F/A-18F Super Hornet
the Directorate General of Armaments (DGA) of the French Ministry of Defence for the Dassault Rafale
the Swedish Defence and Security Export Agency (FXM) for the Saab JAS-39 Gripen and
the UK Ministry of Defence for the Eurofighter Typhoon.

Planning stands that these talks will take the entire latter part of 2014 and a large part of 2015 with the Belgian DoD planning to make the internal assessment of all proposals in 2016 and request for a formal LOI that would make a government decision possible in 2018. This way the new aircraft would find its way to the Belgian Air Force starting in 2023。
消息源:http://www.f-16.net/f-16-news-article4882.html
F16都到了退役的年龄了。
买什么机型?
比利时这么小的国家,飞机稍不注意就飞过国界了吧?我意思买三架就够了,一架巡逻,一架值班,一架备用。
二手F-16市场再度风生水起。。。
又不卖兔子,比利时,说实话,不买都好,真要买,小龙考虑么
又不卖兔子,比利时,说实话,不买都好,真要买,小龙考虑么
小龙这玩意在国际上有竞争力吗?
地图上看毕竟跟荷兰差不多大,而且又是欧盟总部北约总部所在地,脸面估计还是要的,肥电可能性最大
跪求大爷给钱买恶棍
打算买多少架?预算多少?
ahhsxg 发表于 2014-8-27 21:48
又不卖兔子,比利时,说实话,不买都好,真要买,小龙考虑么
西方国家根本不会买兔子的东西
台风最看好吧
水中的鱼儿 发表于 2014-8-27 21:11
比利时这么小的国家,飞机稍不注意就飞过国界了吧?我意思买三架就够了,一架巡逻,一架值班,一架备用。{: ...
我怎么听着像是一架使用,一架收藏,一架布教?
买40架有点悬~能够装备20架都不错了
西方国家根本不会买兔子的东西
请限定军火,谢谢
名单里鹰狮最适合。名单外最适合的是猎鹰,便宜好用,总之不用打仗,飞行员平常还能带女朋友兜兜风啥的{:soso_e120:}
西方国家根本不会买兔子的东西
MD的7爷算不算兔子生产的呢?
巴巴羊该赶紧准备扫货啦,出手慢的话可要被智利抢拍的哦
真是啊,F16都退役了。
巴基斯坦应该能把退役的f16买走
ahhsxg 发表于 2014-8-27 21:48
又不卖兔子,比利时,说实话,不买都好,真要买,小龙考虑么
我就搞不懂,小龙真有那么好么?开口闭口就是小龙小龙。除了巴基斯坦,还有第二个国家已经买了么?搞的好像回到了八爷枪挑22的年代
killerman 发表于 2014-8-28 07:23
我就搞不懂,小龙真有那么好么?开口闭口就是小龙小龙。除了巴基斯坦,还有第二个国家已经买了么?搞的好 ...
枭龙不过是巴基斯坦在美国渠道不可靠,俄国渠道不可取,印度威胁加大而预算有十分有限的情况下,可以较快的获得还能得到部分技术的大批量替换老旧战斗机的二代半战斗机
因此它的性能就替换歼六歼七是合适的, 但拿去和国际市场的二手三代机比就已经力不从心,  去和新锐的三代改去比那是属于自取其辱,  不过很多人就是靠YY来自撸,这已经不是技术问题了。
我就搞不懂,小龙真有那么好么?开口闭口就是小龙小龙。除了巴基斯坦,还有第二个国家已经买了么?搞的好 ...
话不能这么说,否则照此推论歼七成最好国产战斗机了。
欧盟首都怎么能买美国货呢,当然美国立的都还是要买美国货的,F-35毫无疑问
隔夜茶 发表于 2014-8-28 07:46
枭龙不过是巴基斯坦在美国渠道不可靠,俄国渠道不可取,印度威胁加大而预算有十分有限的情况下,可以较快 ...
二手F16其实也是不错的选择,美国飞机皮实,航程大,载弹量也大,拿来做攻击机或战术轰炸机很不错。
而且空战能力也不弱,对付印度的战机并不吃亏。至于小龙,适当装备点打打酱油还行。
总的来说,如果我是巴国空军总帅,我是一定会选择二手F16的。
人家退役F16回头买枭龙?你是在侮辱人家的智商么?
应该会选肥电,台风感觉已经过了它的时代,鹰狮其实是现在对适合欧洲小国的,不过你要考虑到未来几十年,鹰狮还是不靠谱

所以,不管你喜不喜欢,肥电都是他们的最佳选择
二手F16其实也是不错的选择,美国飞机皮实,航程大,载弹量也大,拿来做攻击机或战术轰炸机很不错。
而 ...
美国飞机皮实?空中解体的F15哭了
pl18 发表于 2014-8-28 08:24
美国飞机皮实?空中解体的F15哭了
苏系飞机空中解体的你以为少了?
好歹F15飞过10000小时的也有好几架,你找架飞过6千小时的苏27出来?
技术先进、多功能的F35是小国更新机队时的最佳选择。
pl18 发表于 2014-8-28 08:24
美国飞机皮实?空中解体的F15哭了
美国战机的寿命比毛子战机高的多,飞行训练的强度和难度也代表着世界最高水平,而雷达等设备的可靠性,维修间隔水平也远超毛子,  美国战机不皮实, 谁的战机皮实
猛犸8 发表于 2014-8-27 21:13
二手F-16市场再度风生水起。。。
巴基斯坦又该动心了
最大二手F16集散地
不过性价比确实还是有很好的
mytreehouse 发表于 2014-8-27 22:48
地图上看毕竟跟荷兰差不多大,而且又是欧盟总部北约总部所在地,脸面估计还是要的,肥电可能性最大
我觉地以比利时的国力和比利时在欧盟的定位来说,还是鹰狮靠谱一点。。。
其他的都太高大桑了。。。
leewg 发表于 2014-8-28 03:49
真是啊,F16都退役了。
小30年了。。。
说起来也算是经历过冷战了,哈哈。。。
660324 发表于 2014-8-28 04:01
巴基斯坦应该能把退役的f16买走
有不少国家也会出手的,便宜量又足。。。
ahhsxg 发表于 2014-8-27 21:48
又不卖兔子,比利时,说实话,不买都好,真要买,小龙考虑么
枭龙根本看不上
枭龙三代机称号,二代半机的外形,二代机的水平
名单里鹰狮最适合。名单外最适合的是猎鹰,便宜好用,总之不用打仗,飞行员平常还能带女朋友兜兜风啥的{:so ...
比利时不缺钱,恐怕鹰狮机会不大。
lix_mx_ 发表于 2014-8-28 08:57
我觉地以比利时的国力和比利时在欧盟的定位来说,还是鹰狮靠谱一点。。。
其他的都太高大桑了。。。
如果不夹杂政治因素,现在换新战机必然是选F35。
与其买鹰狮这种三代机,不如让老旧的F16延寿凑合着用。如果采购全新的鹰狮或者其他三代机,在十年后作战环境就接近摆设了,性价比非常之低。
肯定买的F-35