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美媒不信中国贸易世界第一,认为海关数据有虚假
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美媒不信中国贸易世界第一 认为海关数据有虚假
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Andy Kraft：
well that is China
that was a world leader
for 5000 years
it is just that they change slow
but they keep on speeding up
————-
whatever You do
in order to sell
don’t harass
the man
relax…
storytell
http://burningstones.wordpress.com/2014/01/02/sellins-storytellin/
好吧，那就是中国
是世界第一的贸易国
有5000年了
他们不过是变慢了
但他们在加速
laoqiao3 days ago
China has a big population, and so a large number of sales doesn’t make it a big trader when one takes per capita sales into consideration.
But what China needs is to trade ideas. In particular, it needs to accept ideas without imposing idea-tariffs on the exchange.
中国人口很多，如此庞大的贸易量并不能使中国成为贸易大国，只要你考虑到人均贸易量但中国需要的是思想贸易。特别是，中国需要接受思想而且不能在进口的时候设置思想海关
criticalobserver2 days ago
I just wish to remind Gordon Chang that he predicted the collapse of the Chinese economy at the end of 2013. Now it is January 2014 !! Any comments ?
我就是希望提醒戈登张先生，你预测中国经济将在2013年末崩溃。现在已经2014年1月了！！您又什么要说的？
Rick Montalban2 days ago
Gordon Chang is so wrong he is borders on the funny.. he is just a major China hater. To Gordon, the GDP, exports, imports, etc is all fake. I guess is time to postpone that decade old prediction of a China crash just one more year..LOL
咯噔张先生大错特错，快是笑话了。。他就是个仇恨中国的人。对咯噔先生，gdp，出口，进口等等都是假的。我猜，十年前他预测中国崩溃，现在是时候把那预测在延期一年了。。。打滚
criticalobserver2 days ago
（回复楼上）
Yes, he is funny!! He is unable to bring himself to say anything positive about China. Yet this is a country that lifted over 600 million people out of poverty over the past thirty years. I am surprised that he is still writing for Forbes.
是，他是个笑话！！他无法让自己再说中国的积极面了。然而中国是个过去三十年解决6亿人口贫困的国家。我惊讶的是他依然在为福布斯写作。
Luis Mendez2 days ago
yes… and a long time ago…
对。。而且很久以前。。。
bodo2 days ago
Even if it were true, it would merely indicate that China has now finally accomplished with 1300 million people what the US does with 300 million. According to China’s premier Li the US is still seven times as productive as China. A long way to go.
即使中国真的是第一贸易国，也仅仅是说中国13亿人做到了美国3亿人所做到的。根据中国李总理的说法，美国是中国生产率的7倍。要走的路很长。
zhuubaajie2 days ago
回复楼上
So is that glass half full or half empty?On the practical side, it means that for any product or services that both nations know how to make/perform, the China Price will always be an advantage.Whether that is a good or bad thing, depends on where you are.
所以，就是半杯水摆在那，是要看满的一半还是空的一半？在实务层面，意味着中美都可以生产的任何商品或服务，中国价格总是有优势的。是好事还是坏事，取决于你的屁股。
William Wu2 days ago
Give me a break. Why you always point to the negative. Even if China isn’t number one trader is it that big of a deal? So it’s still No. 2. Think about all the improvement in the standard of living of the past several decades. There’s no denial of the progress. You’re forever dreaming about a Chinese hard landing where the entire sky topples. Even if that were to become reality, chances are that they will rise from the ashes and re-invent themselves anew.
你得了吧。为什么你总说消极的地方？即使中国不是世界第一贸易国，那很重要吗？中国依然是第二。想想过去几十年中国生活水平的提高吧。不能否认进步。你总说在梦想着中国的硬着陆好翻天。即使那真的发生，他们也会从废墟里站起来重新发展。
spockv2 days ago
回复楼上
What do you expect? He has to make a living!
你在想什么？他不得不养家糊口！！
Andy D.27 minutes ago
回复楼上上
People’s lives have not improved at all. 90% Chinese still live with $1 per day. All those rich Chinese you see are fake. They are actors paid by Chinese government. They pretend they are rich, but they are extremely poor.
China invited western companies to build fake stores in China. Most Apple stores in China are fake. Chinese can’t afford Starbucks or McDonald’s, they were built to propagandize. Skyscrappers are made of bamboos, and buildings are mostly empty. Most Chinese still live in poor villages.
Also, air pollution and water pollution are created in purpose, to show the prosperity of industry, but in reality, China doesn’t have industry. The government just dumps toxic materials into rivers and claim they are caused by factories.
This is the real China, that I learned from Mr. Gordon Chan.
人们的生活根本没有改善。90%的中国人依然每天花费不到1美元。所有你看到的富裕的中国人都是假的。他们是中国政府雇的演员。他们装着很有钱，实际上很穷。
中国邀请西方公司去中国建造假商店。大部分在中国的苹果专卖店都是假的。中国人消费不起星巴克或麦当劳，建那个就是为了宣传。摩天大楼是竹子做的，楼房大部分是空的。大多数中国人依然住在乡村。
而且，故意污染空气和水，以展示工业的繁荣，但实际上，中国没有工业。政府仅仅把有毒物质排放入水中然后宣传那是工厂干的。
这就是真实的中国，这就是我从咯噔张先生那里了解到的中国。
V Lee2 days ago
Mr Gordon Chang, the anti-China guy, has been predicting the collapse of China for the past 15 years or so. I still remember reading his book and his criticisms about China’s economy and getting really worried for Asia’s economy. Since then he has making failed predictions again and again. Did he just predict that China will have a hard landing in 2011 or 2012, we lose count? I don’t understand why is Forbes still paying him to write a column when we know that this person has little or no credibility in his analysis about China at least based on his ridiculous predictions.
咯噔张先生，逢中必反，过去15年来一直预测中国的崩溃。我依然记得我读他的书和对中国的评论的情况，当时真的担心亚洲经济。从那时起他就一再做出错误预测。他是不是就是2011或12年就预测中国会硬着陆？数不清了。我不理解为什么福布斯依然给他薪水让他继续写专栏。我们都知道他在预测中国的事上，基于他的偏见，他是一点信用也没。
sockv2 days ago
“Coming collapse of China…”, that tells all (:-“
中国即将崩溃。。。”这说出了一切(:-
gerald pass2 days ago
Even if China isn’t actually the world’s number 1 importer/exporter in 2013/2014, I suspect that in another 5 or 10 years, they will have achieved that status anyway, given their continued economic growth rate. For example, their high-speed rail network now surpasses all other countries in mileage, and the U. S. hasn’t even gotten its own off the ground yet.
即使中国进出口总额在2013/2014年度不是世界第一，鉴于他们持续的经济增长率，我怀疑在未来5到10年，他们总会成为第一的。举个例子，他们的高速铁路网里程现在已经超过了所有其他国家，而美国土地上还一点也没有。
王 鋭6 hours ago
HI, Gordon. We are looking forward to your updated version of collapsing China. You predicted China would collapse “before the Beijing Olympic” and in any case no latter than 2011. You then published a paper in Foreign Policy (?) by extending the deadline one more year to the “end of 2012″.
Sir, I want to remind you, Today is Jan. 16, 2014. When will China collapse?
嗨，咯噔，我们期待着你的下一版中国崩溃论。你预测中国将“在北京奥运前”崩溃，而且在任何情况下都不会晚于2011.然后你在外交政策（？）上发表了一篇论文，又延长崩溃日期到“2012年末”。
阁下，我想提醒你，今天是2014年1月16号。中国什么时候崩溃呢？
Max2 days ago
China is Ultimate proof that Republican lunatics, Republic-rats aka FRAUD Obama Democrats, which means the Wall Street gang aka right-wing Kabal behind them, have been playing an ULTIMATE Con Job on American people.
中国是终极证据，可以证明共和疯子、民和党人的骗子——民主党人奥巴为代表的、背后是以右翼阴谋集团而知名的墙街团伙，一直在做骗人工作，骗全美人民。
（注：republic-rats中的rats 是democrats的最后几个字母，整个词的意思是貌似民主党实则共和党。相应的有缩写demoblicans.译文中共和、民主皆指共和党、民主党。墙街，华尔街wall street的直译。
补充一点背景知识。一般认为，华尔街是在共和党人里根当总统期间发展壮大的。罗纳德·里根，共和党人，美国第40任总统（1981-1989），他在任期间，进一步扶持华尔街，发展金融业，壮大了美国经济及其影响力。而奥巴任内，华尔街攫取财富可谓肆无忌惮，难怪有人叫奥巴为republic-rats。奥巴是民主党籍。共和党是比较偏向大资本家的。）
For while Republicans lunatics & HOAX Democrats (aka Wall Street) have been saying any lunatic non-sense to carry out their ultimate Con Job on American people, such as:
共和疯子&假民主党（就是墙街）一直在说骗人的废话来欺骗美国人民，比如：
“Government is the problem not the solution…”
“Government does not create Jobs…”
“Government take over of health care bad..”
“政府才是问题，不是问题解决者。。。”
“政府并不能创造工作。。”
“政府接管医保不好。。”
they have invested Trillions of Dollars and thus moved 10s of Millions of Jobs from US to China. And what is China? China is the ULTIMATE Example of Big Government given the FACT that China is a Communist Capitalist country with Chinese Government NOT just running health care, etc. as Europeans do, on Socialized basis, but in China most Top banks, Top Energy companies, etc. are run by Chinese Government on Socialized basis. In fact as per a recent economist report 72% of Chinese companies are either totally, or via shares, run by Chinese Government.
他们在中国投资了数以万亿计的美元，让几千万的工作岗位移出美国到了中国。中国又是怎么做的？中国是大政府的最好例子。中国是一个共产主义式的资本主义社会，中国政府不仅像欧洲一样提供社会主义性质的医保等，而且在中国，大银行、大能源公司等等都是由中国政府管理的。实际上按照一个最近的经济报告，72%的中国公司，不是由中国政府管理，就是持有股份。
So just think how “Deep the rabbit hole runs”, how the Wall Street gang, via their agents Republican lunatics & HOAX Democrats, have been engaged in a total Con Job on US, that they told US:
你想想“兔子洞有多深吧”，想想墙街团伙，通过他们的代理人共和疯子和假民主党，如何参与到对美国人民的欺骗中的。他们告诉我们：
“We need to move 10s of Millions of Jobs to from US to China because things can be produced cheaper in China..”
“我们需要将几千万的工作机会从美国移到中国，因为那里生产东西成本更低。。”
Which is TRUE. But then they did not tell you, or used their all powerful brain washing right-wing lying Media machinery to prevent you from realizing, that the reason that “things can be produced cheaper in China…” is because Chinese get Health care, College education, etc. for VIRTUALLY FREE plus Gas, Food, etc. subsidized by the Chinese Government because all these and many other things in China are run by the Chinese Government on Socialized basis.
哪个是真的？但之后他们没有告诉你的是，或者使用他们那强大的右翼洗脑骗人的媒体阻止你意识到的是，“那里可以更低成本的生产东西。。”的原因是，中国人有医保、大学教育等等，有实质免费由政府补贴的的天然气和食物，因为所有那些和许多其他东西在中国是由中国政府在社会主义基础上管理的。
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译文来源:
原文地址：http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonchang/2014/01/12/is-china-really-the-worlds-no-1-trader/
正文翻译:
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美媒不信中国贸易世界第一 认为海关数据有虚假
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评论：
Andy Kraft：
well that is China
that was a world leader
for 5000 years
it is just that they change slow
but they keep on speeding up
————-
whatever You do
in order to sell
don’t harass
the man
relax…
storytell
http://burningstones.wordpress.com/2014/01/02/sellins-storytellin/
好吧，那就是中国
是世界第一的贸易国
有5000年了
他们不过是变慢了
但他们在加速
laoqiao3 days ago
China has a big population, and so a large number of sales doesn’t make it a big trader when one takes per capita sales into consideration.
But what China needs is to trade ideas. In particular, it needs to accept ideas without imposing idea-tariffs on the exchange.
中国人口很多，如此庞大的贸易量并不能使中国成为贸易大国，只要你考虑到人均贸易量但中国需要的是思想贸易。特别是，中国需要接受思想而且不能在进口的时候设置思想海关
criticalobserver2 days ago
I just wish to remind Gordon Chang that he predicted the collapse of the Chinese economy at the end of 2013. Now it is January 2014 !! Any comments ?
我就是希望提醒戈登张先生，你预测中国经济将在2013年末崩溃。现在已经2014年1月了！！您又什么要说的？
Rick Montalban2 days ago
Gordon Chang is so wrong he is borders on the funny.. he is just a major China hater. To Gordon, the GDP, exports, imports, etc is all fake. I guess is time to postpone that decade old prediction of a China crash just one more year..LOL
咯噔张先生大错特错，快是笑话了。。他就是个仇恨中国的人。对咯噔先生，gdp，出口，进口等等都是假的。我猜，十年前他预测中国崩溃，现在是时候把那预测在延期一年了。。。打滚
criticalobserver2 days ago
（回复楼上）
Yes, he is funny!! He is unable to bring himself to say anything positive about China. Yet this is a country that lifted over 600 million people out of poverty over the past thirty years. I am surprised that he is still writing for Forbes.
是，他是个笑话！！他无法让自己再说中国的积极面了。然而中国是个过去三十年解决6亿人口贫困的国家。我惊讶的是他依然在为福布斯写作。
Luis Mendez2 days ago
yes… and a long time ago…
对。。而且很久以前。。。
bodo2 days ago
Even if it were true, it would merely indicate that China has now finally accomplished with 1300 million people what the US does with 300 million. According to China’s premier Li the US is still seven times as productive as China. A long way to go.
即使中国真的是第一贸易国，也仅仅是说中国13亿人做到了美国3亿人所做到的。根据中国李总理的说法，美国是中国生产率的7倍。要走的路很长。
zhuubaajie2 days ago
回复楼上
So is that glass half full or half empty?On the practical side, it means that for any product or services that both nations know how to make/perform, the China Price will always be an advantage.Whether that is a good or bad thing, depends on where you are.
所以，就是半杯水摆在那，是要看满的一半还是空的一半？在实务层面，意味着中美都可以生产的任何商品或服务，中国价格总是有优势的。是好事还是坏事，取决于你的屁股。
William Wu2 days ago
Give me a break. Why you always point to the negative. Even if China isn’t number one trader is it that big of a deal? So it’s still No. 2. Think about all the improvement in the standard of living of the past several decades. There’s no denial of the progress. You’re forever dreaming about a Chinese hard landing where the entire sky topples. Even if that were to become reality, chances are that they will rise from the ashes and re-invent themselves anew.
你得了吧。为什么你总说消极的地方？即使中国不是世界第一贸易国，那很重要吗？中国依然是第二。想想过去几十年中国生活水平的提高吧。不能否认进步。你总说在梦想着中国的硬着陆好翻天。即使那真的发生，他们也会从废墟里站起来重新发展。
spockv2 days ago
回复楼上
What do you expect? He has to make a living!
你在想什么？他不得不养家糊口！！
Andy D.27 minutes ago
回复楼上上
People’s lives have not improved at all. 90% Chinese still live with $1 per day. All those rich Chinese you see are fake. They are actors paid by Chinese government. They pretend they are rich, but they are extremely poor.
China invited western companies to build fake stores in China. Most Apple stores in China are fake. Chinese can’t afford Starbucks or McDonald’s, they were built to propagandize. Skyscrappers are made of bamboos, and buildings are mostly empty. Most Chinese still live in poor villages.
Also, air pollution and water pollution are created in purpose, to show the prosperity of industry, but in reality, China doesn’t have industry. The government just dumps toxic materials into rivers and claim they are caused by factories.
This is the real China, that I learned from Mr. Gordon Chan.
人们的生活根本没有改善。90%的中国人依然每天花费不到1美元。所有你看到的富裕的中国人都是假的。他们是中国政府雇的演员。他们装着很有钱，实际上很穷。
中国邀请西方公司去中国建造假商店。大部分在中国的苹果专卖店都是假的。中国人消费不起星巴克或麦当劳，建那个就是为了宣传。摩天大楼是竹子做的，楼房大部分是空的。大多数中国人依然住在乡村。
而且，故意污染空气和水，以展示工业的繁荣，但实际上，中国没有工业。政府仅仅把有毒物质排放入水中然后宣传那是工厂干的。
这就是真实的中国，这就是我从咯噔张先生那里了解到的中国。
V Lee2 days ago
Mr Gordon Chang, the anti-China guy, has been predicting the collapse of China for the past 15 years or so. I still remember reading his book and his criticisms about China’s economy and getting really worried for Asia’s economy. Since then he has making failed predictions again and again. Did he just predict that China will have a hard landing in 2011 or 2012, we lose count? I don’t understand why is Forbes still paying him to write a column when we know that this person has little or no credibility in his analysis about China at least based on his ridiculous predictions.
咯噔张先生，逢中必反，过去15年来一直预测中国的崩溃。我依然记得我读他的书和对中国的评论的情况，当时真的担心亚洲经济。从那时起他就一再做出错误预测。他是不是就是2011或12年就预测中国会硬着陆？数不清了。我不理解为什么福布斯依然给他薪水让他继续写专栏。我们都知道他在预测中国的事上，基于他的偏见，他是一点信用也没。
sockv2 days ago
“Coming collapse of China…”, that tells all (:-“
中国即将崩溃。。。”这说出了一切(:-
gerald pass2 days ago
Even if China isn’t actually the world’s number 1 importer/exporter in 2013/2014, I suspect that in another 5 or 10 years, they will have achieved that status anyway, given their continued economic growth rate. For example, their high-speed rail network now surpasses all other countries in mileage, and the U. S. hasn’t even gotten its own off the ground yet.
即使中国进出口总额在2013/2014年度不是世界第一，鉴于他们持续的经济增长率，我怀疑在未来5到10年，他们总会成为第一的。举个例子，他们的高速铁路网里程现在已经超过了所有其他国家，而美国土地上还一点也没有。
王 鋭6 hours ago
HI, Gordon. We are looking forward to your updated version of collapsing China. You predicted China would collapse “before the Beijing Olympic” and in any case no latter than 2011. You then published a paper in Foreign Policy (?) by extending the deadline one more year to the “end of 2012″.
Sir, I want to remind you, Today is Jan. 16, 2014. When will China collapse?
嗨，咯噔，我们期待着你的下一版中国崩溃论。你预测中国将“在北京奥运前”崩溃，而且在任何情况下都不会晚于2011.然后你在外交政策（？）上发表了一篇论文，又延长崩溃日期到“2012年末”。
阁下，我想提醒你，今天是2014年1月16号。中国什么时候崩溃呢？
Max2 days ago
China is Ultimate proof that Republican lunatics, Republic-rats aka FRAUD Obama Democrats, which means the Wall Street gang aka right-wing Kabal behind them, have been playing an ULTIMATE Con Job on American people.
中国是终极证据，可以证明共和疯子、民和党人的骗子——民主党人奥巴为代表的、背后是以右翼阴谋集团而知名的墙街团伙，一直在做骗人工作，骗全美人民。
（注：republic-rats中的rats 是democrats的最后几个字母，整个词的意思是貌似民主党实则共和党。相应的有缩写demoblicans.译文中共和、民主皆指共和党、民主党。墙街，华尔街wall street的直译。
补充一点背景知识。一般认为，华尔街是在共和党人里根当总统期间发展壮大的。罗纳德·里根，共和党人，美国第40任总统（1981-1989），他在任期间，进一步扶持华尔街，发展金融业，壮大了美国经济及其影响力。而奥巴任内，华尔街攫取财富可谓肆无忌惮，难怪有人叫奥巴为republic-rats。奥巴是民主党籍。共和党是比较偏向大资本家的。）
For while Republicans lunatics & HOAX Democrats (aka Wall Street) have been saying any lunatic non-sense to carry out their ultimate Con Job on American people, such as:
共和疯子&假民主党（就是墙街）一直在说骗人的废话来欺骗美国人民，比如：
“Government is the problem not the solution…”
“Government does not create Jobs…”
“Government take over of health care bad..”
“政府才是问题，不是问题解决者。。。”
“政府并不能创造工作。。”
“政府接管医保不好。。”
they have invested Trillions of Dollars and thus moved 10s of Millions of Jobs from US to China. And what is China? China is the ULTIMATE Example of Big Government given the FACT that China is a Communist Capitalist country with Chinese Government NOT just running health care, etc. as Europeans do, on Socialized basis, but in China most Top banks, Top Energy companies, etc. are run by Chinese Government on Socialized basis. In fact as per a recent economist report 72% of Chinese companies are either totally, or via shares, run by Chinese Government.
他们在中国投资了数以万亿计的美元，让几千万的工作岗位移出美国到了中国。中国又是怎么做的？中国是大政府的最好例子。中国是一个共产主义式的资本主义社会，中国政府不仅像欧洲一样提供社会主义性质的医保等，而且在中国，大银行、大能源公司等等都是由中国政府管理的。实际上按照一个最近的经济报告，72%的中国公司，不是由中国政府管理，就是持有股份。
So just think how “Deep the rabbit hole runs”, how the Wall Street gang, via their agents Republican lunatics & HOAX Democrats, have been engaged in a total Con Job on US, that they told US:
你想想“兔子洞有多深吧”，想想墙街团伙，通过他们的代理人共和疯子和假民主党，如何参与到对美国人民的欺骗中的。他们告诉我们：
“We need to move 10s of Millions of Jobs to from US to China because things can be produced cheaper in China..”
“我们需要将几千万的工作机会从美国移到中国，因为那里生产东西成本更低。。”
Which is TRUE. But then they did not tell you, or used their all powerful brain washing right-wing lying Media machinery to prevent you from realizing, that the reason that “things can be produced cheaper in China…” is because Chinese get Health care, College education, etc. for VIRTUALLY FREE plus Gas, Food, etc. subsidized by the Chinese Government because all these and many other things in China are run by the Chinese Government on Socialized basis.
哪个是真的？但之后他们没有告诉你的是，或者使用他们那强大的右翼洗脑骗人的媒体阻止你意识到的是，“那里可以更低成本的生产东西。。”的原因是，中国人有医保、大学教育等等，有实质免费由政府补贴的的天然气和食物，因为所有那些和许多其他东西在中国是由中国政府在社会主义基础上管理的。
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Andy Kraft：
well that is China
that was a world leader
for 5000 years
it is just that they change slow
but they keep on speeding up
————-
whatever You do
in order to sell
don’t harass
the man
relax…
storytell
http://burningstones.wordpress.com/2014/01/02/sellins-storytellin/
好吧，那就是中国
是世界第一的贸易国
有5000年了
他们不过是变慢了
但他们在加速
laoqiao3 days ago
China has a big population, and so a large number of sales doesn’t make it a big trader when one takes per capita sales into consideration.
But what China needs is to trade ideas. In particular, it needs to accept ideas without imposing idea-tariffs on the exchange.
中国人口很多，如此庞大的贸易量并不能使中国成为贸易大国，只要你考虑到人均贸易量但中国需要的是思想贸易。特别是，中国需要接受思想而且不能在进口的时候设置思想海关
criticalobserver2 days ago
I just wish to remind Gordon Chang that he predicted the collapse of the Chinese economy at the end of 2013. Now it is January 2014 !! Any comments ?
我就是希望提醒戈登张先生，你预测中国经济将在2013年末崩溃。现在已经2014年1月了！！您又什么要说的？
Rick Montalban2 days ago
Gordon Chang is so wrong he is borders on the funny.. he is just a major China hater. To Gordon, the GDP, exports, imports, etc is all fake. I guess is time to postpone that decade old prediction of a China crash just one more year..LOL
咯噔张先生大错特错，快是笑话了。。他就是个仇恨中国的人。对咯噔先生，gdp，出口，进口等等都是假的。我猜，十年前他预测中国崩溃，现在是时候把那预测在延期一年了。。。打滚
criticalobserver2 days ago
（回复楼上）
Yes, he is funny!! He is unable to bring himself to say anything positive about China. Yet this is a country that lifted over 600 million people out of poverty over the past thirty years. I am surprised that he is still writing for Forbes.
是，他是个笑话！！他无法让自己再说中国的积极面了。然而中国是个过去三十年解决6亿人口贫困的国家。我惊讶的是他依然在为福布斯写作。
Luis Mendez2 days ago
yes… and a long time ago…
对。。而且很久以前。。。
bodo2 days ago
Even if it were true, it would merely indicate that China has now finally accomplished with 1300 million people what the US does with 300 million. According to China’s premier Li the US is still seven times as productive as China. A long way to go.
即使中国真的是第一贸易国，也仅仅是说中国13亿人做到了美国3亿人所做到的。根据中国李总理的说法，美国是中国生产率的7倍。要走的路很长。
zhuubaajie2 days ago
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So is that glass half full or half empty?On the practical side, it means that for any product or services that both nations know how to make/perform, the China Price will always be an advantage.Whether that is a good or bad thing, depends on where you are.
所以，就是半杯水摆在那，是要看满的一半还是空的一半？在实务层面，意味着中美都可以生产的任何商品或服务，中国价格总是有优势的。是好事还是坏事，取决于你的屁股。
William Wu2 days ago
Give me a break. Why you always point to the negative. Even if China isn’t number one trader is it that big of a deal? So it’s still No. 2. Think about all the improvement in the standard of living of the past several decades. There’s no denial of the progress. You’re forever dreaming about a Chinese hard landing where the entire sky topples. Even if that were to become reality, chances are that they will rise from the ashes and re-invent themselves anew.
你得了吧。为什么你总说消极的地方？即使中国不是世界第一贸易国，那很重要吗？中国依然是第二。想想过去几十年中国生活水平的提高吧。不能否认进步。你总说在梦想着中国的硬着陆好翻天。即使那真的发生，他们也会从废墟里站起来重新发展。
spockv2 days ago
回复楼上
What do you expect? He has to make a living!
你在想什么？他不得不养家糊口！！
Andy D.27 minutes ago
回复楼上上
People’s lives have not improved at all. 90% Chinese still live with $1 per day. All those rich Chinese you see are fake. They are actors paid by Chinese government. They pretend they are rich, but they are extremely poor.
China invited western companies to build fake stores in China. Most Apple stores in China are fake. Chinese can’t afford Starbucks or McDonald’s, they were built to propagandize. Skyscrappers are made of bamboos, and buildings are mostly empty. Most Chinese still live in poor villages.
Also, air pollution and water pollution are created in purpose, to show the prosperity of industry, but in reality, China doesn’t have industry. The government just dumps toxic materials into rivers and claim they are caused by factories.
This is the real China, that I learned from Mr. Gordon Chan.
人们的生活根本没有改善。90%的中国人依然每天花费不到1美元。所有你看到的富裕的中国人都是假的。他们是中国政府雇的演员。他们装着很有钱，实际上很穷。
中国邀请西方公司去中国建造假商店。大部分在中国的苹果专卖店都是假的。中国人消费不起星巴克或麦当劳，建那个就是为了宣传。摩天大楼是竹子做的，楼房大部分是空的。大多数中国人依然住在乡村。
而且，故意污染空气和水，以展示工业的繁荣，但实际上，中国没有工业。政府仅仅把有毒物质排放入水中然后宣传那是工厂干的。
这就是真实的中国，这就是我从咯噔张先生那里了解到的中国。
V Lee2 days ago
Mr Gordon Chang, the anti-China guy, has been predicting the collapse of China for the past 15 years or so. I still remember reading his book and his criticisms about China’s economy and getting really worried for Asia’s economy. Since then he has making failed predictions again and again. Did he just predict that China will have a hard landing in 2011 or 2012, we lose count? I don’t understand why is Forbes still paying him to write a column when we know that this person has little or no credibility in his analysis about China at least based on his ridiculous predictions.
咯噔张先生，逢中必反，过去15年来一直预测中国的崩溃。我依然记得我读他的书和对中国的评论的情况，当时真的担心亚洲经济。从那时起他就一再做出错误预测。他是不是就是2011或12年就预测中国会硬着陆？数不清了。我不理解为什么福布斯依然给他薪水让他继续写专栏。我们都知道他在预测中国的事上，基于他的偏见，他是一点信用也没。
sockv2 days ago
“Coming collapse of China…”, that tells all (:-“
中国即将崩溃。。。”这说出了一切(:-
gerald pass2 days ago
Even if China isn’t actually the world’s number 1 importer/exporter in 2013/2014, I suspect that in another 5 or 10 years, they will have achieved that status anyway, given their continued economic growth rate. For example, their high-speed rail network now surpasses all other countries in mileage, and the U. S. hasn’t even gotten its own off the ground yet.
即使中国进出口总额在2013/2014年度不是世界第一，鉴于他们持续的经济增长率，我怀疑在未来5到10年，他们总会成为第一的。举个例子，他们的高速铁路网里程现在已经超过了所有其他国家，而美国土地上还一点也没有。
王 鋭6 hours ago
HI, Gordon. We are looking forward to your updated version of collapsing China. You predicted China would collapse “before the Beijing Olympic” and in any case no latter than 2011. You then published a paper in Foreign Policy (?) by extending the deadline one more year to the “end of 2012″.
Sir, I want to remind you, Today is Jan. 16, 2014. When will China collapse?
嗨，咯噔，我们期待着你的下一版中国崩溃论。你预测中国将“在北京奥运前”崩溃，而且在任何情况下都不会晚于2011.然后你在外交政策（？）上发表了一篇论文，又延长崩溃日期到“2012年末”。
阁下，我想提醒你，今天是2014年1月16号。中国什么时候崩溃呢？
Max2 days ago
China is Ultimate proof that Republican lunatics, Republic-rats aka FRAUD Obama Democrats, which means the Wall Street gang aka right-wing Kabal behind them, have been playing an ULTIMATE Con Job on American people.
中国是终极证据，可以证明共和疯子、民和党人的骗子——民主党人奥巴为代表的、背后是以右翼阴谋集团而知名的墙街团伙，一直在做骗人工作，骗全美人民。
（注：republic-rats中的rats 是democrats的最后几个字母，整个词的意思是貌似民主党实则共和党。相应的有缩写demoblicans.译文中共和、民主皆指共和党、民主党。墙街，华尔街wall street的直译。
补充一点背景知识。一般认为，华尔街是在共和党人里根当总统期间发展壮大的。罗纳德·里根，共和党人，美国第40任总统（1981-1989），他在任期间，进一步扶持华尔街，发展金融业，壮大了美国经济及其影响力。而奥巴任内，华尔街攫取财富可谓肆无忌惮，难怪有人叫奥巴为republic-rats。奥巴是民主党籍。共和党是比较偏向大资本家的。）
For while Republicans lunatics & HOAX Democrats (aka Wall Street) have been saying any lunatic non-sense to carry out their ultimate Con Job on American people, such as:
共和疯子&假民主党（就是墙街）一直在说骗人的废话来欺骗美国人民，比如：
“Government is the problem not the solution…”
“Government does not create Jobs…”
“Government take over of health care bad..”
“政府才是问题，不是问题解决者。。。”
“政府并不能创造工作。。”
“政府接管医保不好。。”
they have invested Trillions of Dollars and thus moved 10s of Millions of Jobs from US to China. And what is China? China is the ULTIMATE Example of Big Government given the FACT that China is a Communist Capitalist country with Chinese Government NOT just running health care, etc. as Europeans do, on Socialized basis, but in China most Top banks, Top Energy companies, etc. are run by Chinese Government on Socialized basis. In fact as per a recent economist report 72% of Chinese companies are either totally, or via shares, run by Chinese Government.
他们在中国投资了数以万亿计的美元，让几千万的工作岗位移出美国到了中国。中国又是怎么做的？中国是大政府的最好例子。中国是一个共产主义式的资本主义社会，中国政府不仅像欧洲一样提供社会主义性质的医保等，而且在中国，大银行、大能源公司等等都是由中国政府管理的。实际上按照一个最近的经济报告，72%的中国公司，不是由中国政府管理，就是持有股份。
So just think how “Deep the rabbit hole runs”, how the Wall Street gang, via their agents Republican lunatics & HOAX Democrats, have been engaged in a total Con Job on US, that they told US:
你想想“兔子洞有多深吧”，想想墙街团伙，通过他们的代理人共和疯子和假民主党，如何参与到对美国人民的欺骗中的。他们告诉我们：
“We need to move 10s of Millions of Jobs to from US to China because things can be produced cheaper in China..”
“我们需要将几千万的工作机会从美国移到中国，因为那里生产东西成本更低。。”
Which is TRUE. But then they did not tell you, or used their all powerful brain washing right-wing lying Media machinery to prevent you from realizing, that the reason that “things can be produced cheaper in China…” is because Chinese get Health care, College education, etc. for VIRTUALLY FREE plus Gas, Food, etc. subsidized by the Chinese Government because all these and many other things in China are run by the Chinese Government on Socialized basis.
哪个是真的？但之后他们没有告诉你的是，或者使用他们那强大的右翼洗脑骗人的媒体阻止你意识到的是，“那里可以更低成本的生产东西。。”的原因是，中国人有医保、大学教育等等，有实质免费由政府补贴的的天然气和食物，因为所有那些和许多其他东西在中国是由中国政府在社会主义基础上管理的。
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译文来源:
原文地址：http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonchang/2014/01/12/is-china-really-the-worlds-no-1-trader/
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Andy Kraft：
well that is China
that was a world leader
for 5000 years
it is just that they change slow
but they keep on speeding up
————-
whatever You do
in order to sell
don’t harass
the man
relax…
storytell
http://burningstones.wordpress.com/2014/01/02/sellins-storytellin/
好吧，那就是中国
是世界第一的贸易国
有5000年了
他们不过是变慢了
但他们在加速
laoqiao3 days ago
China has a big population, and so a large number of sales doesn’t make it a big trader when one takes per capita sales into consideration.
But what China needs is to trade ideas. In particular, it needs to accept ideas without imposing idea-tariffs on the exchange.
中国人口很多，如此庞大的贸易量并不能使中国成为贸易大国，只要你考虑到人均贸易量但中国需要的是思想贸易。特别是，中国需要接受思想而且不能在进口的时候设置思想海关
criticalobserver2 days ago
I just wish to remind Gordon Chang that he predicted the collapse of the Chinese economy at the end of 2013. Now it is January 2014 !! Any comments ?
我就是希望提醒戈登张先生，你预测中国经济将在2013年末崩溃。现在已经2014年1月了！！您又什么要说的？
Rick Montalban2 days ago
Gordon Chang is so wrong he is borders on the funny.. he is just a major China hater. To Gordon, the GDP, exports, imports, etc is all fake. I guess is time to postpone that decade old prediction of a China crash just one more year..LOL
咯噔张先生大错特错，快是笑话了。。他就是个仇恨中国的人。对咯噔先生，gdp，出口，进口等等都是假的。我猜，十年前他预测中国崩溃，现在是时候把那预测在延期一年了。。。打滚
criticalobserver2 days ago
（回复楼上）
Yes, he is funny!! He is unable to bring himself to say anything positive about China. Yet this is a country that lifted over 600 million people out of poverty over the past thirty years. I am surprised that he is still writing for Forbes.
是，他是个笑话！！他无法让自己再说中国的积极面了。然而中国是个过去三十年解决6亿人口贫困的国家。我惊讶的是他依然在为福布斯写作。
Luis Mendez2 days ago
yes… and a long time ago…
对。。而且很久以前。。。
bodo2 days ago
Even if it were true, it would merely indicate that China has now finally accomplished with 1300 million people what the US does with 300 million. According to China’s premier Li the US is still seven times as productive as China. A long way to go.
即使中国真的是第一贸易国，也仅仅是说中国13亿人做到了美国3亿人所做到的。根据中国李总理的说法，美国是中国生产率的7倍。要走的路很长。
zhuubaajie2 days ago
回复楼上
So is that glass half full or half empty?On the practical side, it means that for any product or services that both nations know how to make/perform, the China Price will always be an advantage.Whether that is a good or bad thing, depends on where you are.
所以，就是半杯水摆在那，是要看满的一半还是空的一半？在实务层面，意味着中美都可以生产的任何商品或服务，中国价格总是有优势的。是好事还是坏事，取决于你的屁股。
William Wu2 days ago
Give me a break. Why you always point to the negative. Even if China isn’t number one trader is it that big of a deal? So it’s still No. 2. Think about all the improvement in the standard of living of the past several decades. There’s no denial of the progress. You’re forever dreaming about a Chinese hard landing where the entire sky topples. Even if that were to become reality, chances are that they will rise from the ashes and re-invent themselves anew.
你得了吧。为什么你总说消极的地方？即使中国不是世界第一贸易国，那很重要吗？中国依然是第二。想想过去几十年中国生活水平的提高吧。不能否认进步。你总说在梦想着中国的硬着陆好翻天。即使那真的发生，他们也会从废墟里站起来重新发展。
spockv2 days ago
回复楼上
What do you expect? He has to make a living!
你在想什么？他不得不养家糊口！！
Andy D.27 minutes ago
回复楼上上
People’s lives have not improved at all. 90% Chinese still live with $1 per day. All those rich Chinese you see are fake. They are actors paid by Chinese government. They pretend they are rich, but they are extremely poor.
China invited western companies to build fake stores in China. Most Apple stores in China are fake. Chinese can’t afford Starbucks or McDonald’s, they were built to propagandize. Skyscrappers are made of bamboos, and buildings are mostly empty. Most Chinese still live in poor villages.
Also, air pollution and water pollution are created in purpose, to show the prosperity of industry, but in reality, China doesn’t have industry. The government just dumps toxic materials into rivers and claim they are caused by factories.
This is the real China, that I learned from Mr. Gordon Chan.
人们的生活根本没有改善。90%的中国人依然每天花费不到1美元。所有你看到的富裕的中国人都是假的。他们是中国政府雇的演员。他们装着很有钱，实际上很穷。
中国邀请西方公司去中国建造假商店。大部分在中国的苹果专卖店都是假的。中国人消费不起星巴克或麦当劳，建那个就是为了宣传。摩天大楼是竹子做的，楼房大部分是空的。大多数中国人依然住在乡村。
而且，故意污染空气和水，以展示工业的繁荣，但实际上，中国没有工业。政府仅仅把有毒物质排放入水中然后宣传那是工厂干的。
这就是真实的中国，这就是我从咯噔张先生那里了解到的中国。
V Lee2 days ago
Mr Gordon Chang, the anti-China guy, has been predicting the collapse of China for the past 15 years or so. I still remember reading his book and his criticisms about China’s economy and getting really worried for Asia’s economy. Since then he has making failed predictions again and again. Did he just predict that China will have a hard landing in 2011 or 2012, we lose count? I don’t understand why is Forbes still paying him to write a column when we know that this person has little or no credibility in his analysis about China at least based on his ridiculous predictions.
咯噔张先生，逢中必反，过去15年来一直预测中国的崩溃。我依然记得我读他的书和对中国的评论的情况，当时真的担心亚洲经济。从那时起他就一再做出错误预测。他是不是就是2011或12年就预测中国会硬着陆？数不清了。我不理解为什么福布斯依然给他薪水让他继续写专栏。我们都知道他在预测中国的事上，基于他的偏见，他是一点信用也没。
sockv2 days ago
“Coming collapse of China…”, that tells all (:-“
中国即将崩溃。。。”这说出了一切(:-
gerald pass2 days ago
Even if China isn’t actually the world’s number 1 importer/exporter in 2013/2014, I suspect that in another 5 or 10 years, they will have achieved that status anyway, given their continued economic growth rate. For example, their high-speed rail network now surpasses all other countries in mileage, and the U. S. hasn’t even gotten its own off the ground yet.
即使中国进出口总额在2013/2014年度不是世界第一，鉴于他们持续的经济增长率，我怀疑在未来5到10年，他们总会成为第一的。举个例子，他们的高速铁路网里程现在已经超过了所有其他国家，而美国土地上还一点也没有。
王 鋭6 hours ago
HI, Gordon. We are looking forward to your updated version of collapsing China. You predicted China would collapse “before the Beijing Olympic” and in any case no latter than 2011. You then published a paper in Foreign Policy (?) by extending the deadline one more year to the “end of 2012″.
Sir, I want to remind you, Today is Jan. 16, 2014. When will China collapse?
嗨，咯噔，我们期待着你的下一版中国崩溃论。你预测中国将“在北京奥运前”崩溃，而且在任何情况下都不会晚于2011.然后你在外交政策（？）上发表了一篇论文，又延长崩溃日期到“2012年末”。
阁下，我想提醒你，今天是2014年1月16号。中国什么时候崩溃呢？
Max2 days ago
China is Ultimate proof that Republican lunatics, Republic-rats aka FRAUD Obama Democrats, which means the Wall Street gang aka right-wing Kabal behind them, have been playing an ULTIMATE Con Job on American people.
中国是终极证据，可以证明共和疯子、民和党人的骗子——民主党人奥巴为代表的、背后是以右翼阴谋集团而知名的墙街团伙，一直在做骗人工作，骗全美人民。
（注：republic-rats中的rats 是democrats的最后几个字母，整个词的意思是貌似民主党实则共和党。相应的有缩写demoblicans.译文中共和、民主皆指共和党、民主党。墙街，华尔街wall street的直译。
补充一点背景知识。一般认为，华尔街是在共和党人里根当总统期间发展壮大的。罗纳德·里根，共和党人，美国第40任总统（1981-1989），他在任期间，进一步扶持华尔街，发展金融业，壮大了美国经济及其影响力。而奥巴任内，华尔街攫取财富可谓肆无忌惮，难怪有人叫奥巴为republic-rats。奥巴是民主党籍。共和党是比较偏向大资本家的。）
For while Republicans lunatics & HOAX Democrats (aka Wall Street) have been saying any lunatic non-sense to carry out their ultimate Con Job on American people, such as:
共和疯子&假民主党（就是墙街）一直在说骗人的废话来欺骗美国人民，比如：
“Government is the problem not the solution…”
“Government does not create Jobs…”
“Government take over of health care bad..”
“政府才是问题，不是问题解决者。。。”
“政府并不能创造工作。。”
“政府接管医保不好。。”
they have invested Trillions of Dollars and thus moved 10s of Millions of Jobs from US to China. And what is China? China is the ULTIMATE Example of Big Government given the FACT that China is a Communist Capitalist country with Chinese Government NOT just running health care, etc. as Europeans do, on Socialized basis, but in China most Top banks, Top Energy companies, etc. are run by Chinese Government on Socialized basis. In fact as per a recent economist report 72% of Chinese companies are either totally, or via shares, run by Chinese Government.
他们在中国投资了数以万亿计的美元，让几千万的工作岗位移出美国到了中国。中国又是怎么做的？中国是大政府的最好例子。中国是一个共产主义式的资本主义社会，中国政府不仅像欧洲一样提供社会主义性质的医保等，而且在中国，大银行、大能源公司等等都是由中国政府管理的。实际上按照一个最近的经济报告，72%的中国公司，不是由中国政府管理，就是持有股份。
So just think how “Deep the rabbit hole runs”, how the Wall Street gang, via their agents Republican lunatics & HOAX Democrats, have been engaged in a total Con Job on US, that they told US:
你想想“兔子洞有多深吧”，想想墙街团伙，通过他们的代理人共和疯子和假民主党，如何参与到对美国人民的欺骗中的。他们告诉我们：
“We need to move 10s of Millions of Jobs to from US to China because things can be produced cheaper in China..”
“我们需要将几千万的工作机会从美国移到中国，因为那里生产东西成本更低。。”
Which is TRUE. But then they did not tell you, or used their all powerful brain washing right-wing lying Media machinery to prevent you from realizing, that the reason that “things can be produced cheaper in China…” is because Chinese get Health care, College education, etc. for VIRTUALLY FREE plus Gas, Food, etc. subsidized by the Chinese Government because all these and many other things in China are run by the Chinese Government on Socialized basis.
哪个是真的？但之后他们没有告诉你的是，或者使用他们那强大的右翼洗脑骗人的媒体阻止你意识到的是，“那里可以更低成本的生产东西。。”的原因是，中国人有医保、大学教育等等，有实质免费由政府补贴的的天然气和食物，因为所有那些和许多其他东西在中国是由中国政府在社会主义基础上管理的。
More:
http://www.realnewspost.net/sa.php?a=61378
更多见：
http://www.realnewspost.net/sa.php?a=61378
上面的“张先生”就是章家敦……
虽然美国P民蠢得连朝鲜在地图的哪个地方都不知道，但你老几十年如一日用同样的方式忽悠，就算是范伟也能明白过来啊？
虽然美国P民蠢得连朝鲜在地图的哪个地方都不知道，但你老几十年如一日用同样的方式忽悠，就算是范伟也能明白过来啊？
明白人总不多呀。。。
不容易啊。。。。
期待章局的新作《中国在2014年崩溃》
这只黄皮狗要加大忽悠力度，坚持崩溃一百年不动摇，为忽悠美帝白人做出更大贡献，然后在这只黄皮狗死后，我会在此狗的坟上撒泡尿以示敬意！
章局要顶住啊，党国忽悠事业就靠你了
靠。。。。咯噔张同志你千万要撑住啊。。。。党国起码还要20年和平发展机遇期啊。。。这艰难而伟大的任务可离不开你啊。。。为了党国的伟大复兴千万要撑住
铁一手 发表于 2014-1-17 14:06
期待章局的新作《中国在2014年崩溃》
你低估咯噔先生了，如果我是他一定写，但是时间定在2020年，原因你懂的。。。。
期待章局的新作《中国在2014年崩溃》
你低估咯噔先生了，如果我是他一定写，但是时间定在2020年，原因你懂的。。。。
张同志你千万要撑住
你在想什么？他不得不养家糊口！！
话说这位肿么这么清醒？
话说这位肿么这么清醒？
不行，几十年都这个调调，再糊涂的人也明白过来了，你就不能过几年换个方式啊。
不好，章副局暴露了
：中国人有医保、大学教育等等，有实质免费由政府补贴的的天然气和食物，因为所有那些和许多其他东西在中国是由中国政府在社会主义基础上管理的。
美国人居然还相信社会主义，俺们早都已经市场化了。
美国人居然还相信社会主义，俺们早都已经市场化了。
：中国人有医保、大学教育等等，有实质免费由政府补贴的的天然气和食物，因为所有那些和许多其他东西在中国 ...
现今世界，早就没有“纯种”的社会主义或者资本主义了
现今世界，早就没有“纯种”的社会主义或者资本主义了
章同志是战忽局最大的功臣啊！忽悠米帝十几年，咱们的战略机遇期除了笨拉登就是靠章同志了。
Paprika 发表于 2014-1-17 16:22
你低估咯噔先生了，如果我是他一定写，但是时间定在2020年，原因你懂的。。。。
2014年的预测是应该有的，以后会逐渐缩短预测崩溃的时间，因为章应该像其他普通人一样，知道这符合心理学吧。
当事物出现一个小苗头的时候，你可以预测10年，但10年后没有发生，你还有让人相信它一定发生，你就不能再预测10年这么久了，因为这样信誉就一点也不剩了，也没人看了。这个时候就要适当缩短预测时间，之后一次比一次短，崩溃的规模一次比一次吓人，这样才能保持住自己的读者不大量流失。
你低估咯噔先生了，如果我是他一定写，但是时间定在2020年，原因你懂的。。。。
2014年的预测是应该有的，以后会逐渐缩短预测崩溃的时间，因为章应该像其他普通人一样，知道这符合心理学吧。
当事物出现一个小苗头的时候，你可以预测10年，但10年后没有发生，你还有让人相信它一定发生，你就不能再预测10年这么久了，因为这样信誉就一点也不剩了，也没人看了。这个时候就要适当缩短预测时间，之后一次比一次短，崩溃的规模一次比一次吓人，这样才能保持住自己的读者不大量流失。
唉，如果这两年我们成功的输出几套高铁，中国的GDP和进出口数据会帅的无法隐瞒了 。。。。。章同志你要做好被暗杀的准备。
赶快组织营救。
你们这些混蛋。。忽悠总局北美局的同志开展工作容易么？得承受多大的压力呀。。
你们就不能在心里默默的叫好么？
你们就不能在心里默默的叫好么？
Paprika 发表于 2014-1-17 16:22
你低估咯噔先生了，如果我是他一定写，但是时间定在2020年，原因你懂的。。。。
错，时间定在20^14保证没问题了
你低估咯噔先生了，如果我是他一定写，但是时间定在2020年，原因你懂的。。。。
错，时间定在20^14保证没问题了
章家敦是美国出钱忽悠了自己。
美国出钱给轮子做反华宣传，半真半假。大妓院天天宣扬TG崩溃，很少人塔理。所有的腐败、不满、公知、帯路党，都被用来当成崩溃的徵像。章家敦用英文整理出书。美国反华人士捡了当做宝，是外销转内销。
美国出钱给轮子做反华宣传，半真半假。大妓院天天宣扬TG崩溃，很少人塔理。所有的腐败、不满、公知、帯路党，都被用来当成崩溃的徵像。章家敦用英文整理出书。美国反华人士捡了当做宝，是外销转内销。
现今世界，早就没有“纯种”的社会主义或者资本主义了
小平说过:市场多一点还是计划多一点不是资本主义和社会主义的区别……
小平说过:市场多一点还是计划多一点不是资本主义和社会主义的区别……
铁一手 发表于 2014-1-17 14:06
期待章局的新作《中国在2014年崩溃》
人家已经写了。http://www.guancha.cn/economy/2013_12_24_194827.shtml中国房价飙升股市暴跌企业倒闭 2014年崩溃不可避免
期待章局的新作《中国在2014年崩溃》
人家已经写了。http://www.guancha.cn/economy/2013_12_24_194827.shtml中国房价飙升股市暴跌企业倒闭 2014年崩溃不可避免
年年在崩溃
：中国人有医保、大学教育等等，有实质免费由政府补贴的的天然气和食物，因为所有那些和许多其他东西在中国 ...
大学教育这个确实有。。。。国外很难想象，你在中国顶级大学度商课或者法律一学期学费才5000元。。。
大学教育这个确实有。。。。国外很难想象，你在中国顶级大学度商课或者法律一学期学费才5000元。。。
人们的生活根本没有改善。90%的中国人依然每天花费不到1美元。所有你看到的富裕的中国人都是假的。他们是中国政府雇的演员。他们装着很有钱，实际上很穷。
中国邀请西方公司去中国建造假商店。大部分在中国的苹果专卖店都是假的。中国人消费不起星巴克或麦当劳，建那个就是为了宣传。摩天大楼是竹子做的，楼房大部分是空的。大多数中国人依然住在乡村。
而且，故意污染空气和水，以展示工业的繁荣，但实际上，中国没有工业。政府仅仅把有毒物质排放入水中然后宣传那是工厂干的。
这就是真实的中国，这就是我从咯噔张先生那里了解到的中国。
恩。西部人民都在吃草。东部人民都在刷漆。。。。MD人民也有这种幽默感真好。。。。
炎运宏开世界同 发表于 2014-1-17 16:55
：中国人有医保、大学教育等等，有实质免费由政府补贴的的天然气和食物，因为所有那些和许多其他东西在中国 ...
中国医疗和教育的廉价
本质就是一种社会主义
：中国人有医保、大学教育等等，有实质免费由政府补贴的的天然气和食物，因为所有那些和许多其他东西在中国 ...
中国医疗和教育的廉价
本质就是一种社会主义
lvchunyou 发表于 2014-1-18 09:55
2014年的预测是应该有的，以后会逐渐缩短预测崩溃的时间，因为章应该像其他普通人一样，知道这符合心理学 ...
草！我吃货帝国真是出忽悠人才啊！
2014年的预测是应该有的，以后会逐渐缩短预测崩溃的时间，因为章应该像其他普通人一样，知道这符合心理学 ...
草！我吃货帝国真是出忽悠人才啊！
太忧伤了，他这暴露太早
章局副英文名叫戈登章？
好歹也算是一个文化人摇笔杆子混饭吃的，怎么叫这破名……
好歹也算是一个文化人摇笔杆子混饭吃的，怎么叫这破名……
如果把牛刀也送到美国，大事可成。
严重怀疑章家敦是党的同志！！
章家敦：中国经济衰退无法负担军费将发动侵略战争，在这个世界上有一个比强大中国更危险的存在——一个虚弱而衰退的中国。意思就是美国不要再亚太再平衡了，强大的中国不危险！
章家敦：中国经济衰退无法负担军费将发动侵略战争，在这个世界上有一个比强大中国更危险的存在——一个虚弱而衰退的中国。意思就是美国不要再亚太再平衡了，强大的中国不危险！
xc007 发表于 2014-1-17 13:10
上面的“张先生”就是章家敦……
虽然美国P民蠢得连朝鲜在地图的哪个地方都不知道，但你老几十年如一日用 ...
还真的是几十年如一日
上面的“张先生”就是章家敦……
虽然美国P民蠢得连朝鲜在地图的哪个地方都不知道，但你老几十年如一日用 ...
还真的是几十年如一日
章局是好同志；大家误会它了。MD有一大帮子人需要精神上的麻醉，章局同志本着救死扶伤的国际主义精神，不辞辛苦地为这一大帮美国人服务。这是一种怎样的崇高境界啊……
要选章副局的接班人了，他估计没市场了。
看来福布斯是战忽局北美总局，章是局长。不过玩笑归玩笑，为啥现在还给钱给地方这货继续发文章，换个人喷TG真的很难么？
。不过玩笑归玩笑，为啥现在还给钱给地方这货继续发文章，换个人喷TG真的很难么？铁一手 发表于 2014-1-17 14:06
期待章局的新作《中国在2014年崩溃》
这不太累了，还不如写，中国将在明年崩溃。年年都能用。
期待章局的新作《中国在2014年崩溃》
这不太累了，还不如写，中国将在明年崩溃。年年都能用。
你们在想什么？
咯噔章先生，也得养家糊口啊！
谁让你MD大众爱听兔子崩溃论的呢？
没有受众，没有收入，咯噔章能没完没了的预测兔子崩溃吗？
咯噔章先生，也得养家糊口啊！
谁让你MD大众爱听兔子崩溃论的呢？
没有受众，没有收入，咯噔章能没完没了的预测兔子崩溃吗？
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