T-50将装备新的K-77导弹。

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视频http://cen.ce.cn/more/201312/05/t20131205_1857473.shtml

近日,俄罗斯披露其新型K-77M型空空导弹内嵌64单元AESA雷达,预计在2015年2月开始量产,这将有可能成为有史以来第一种内嵌AESA雷达的空空导弹,不过也有其它消息说日本以美制ARAAM 改进而来的AAM-4B远程空空导弹也配有AESA,不知真假。讨论的话题就是空空导弹内嵌AESA雷达对空战所能带来哪些方面的好处?
K-77M型空空导弹内嵌64单元AESA雷达

Traditional air-to-air missiles include a small mechanical radar antenna in the nose. These mechanical radar missiles have a major weakness that occurs in the final seconds before the munition reaches its target.

“The angular motion—and specifically the angle rate of antenna movement as the missile closes on the target—can be so high that the seeker cannot keep up and the target slips out of the antenna beam, causing missile lock to be broken,” the scientist explains.

In other words, if a pilot turns quickly in any direction right before a missile hits his plane, he stands a good chance of slipping outside the field of view of the missile’s radar, causing it to fly harmlessly away. The inability of most munitions to cope with violent maneuvers helps explain why radar-guided air-to-air missiles typically have very low hit rates.

But the K-77M could change all that. Gone is the mechanical array. In its place, Detal’s engineers have added what Russia Today describes as “a large number”—possibly hundreds—of individual digital arrays, each pointing its own radar beam essentially at the speed of light.

“Each cell receives only a part of the signal,” RT reports, “but once digitally processed, the information from all cells is summarized into a ‘full picture,’ enabling the K-77M missile to immediately respond to sharp turns of the target, making interception practically inevitable.”

That’s not hyperbole, according to the scientist. “Because an AESA or phased array is steered electronically, the antenna beam can be adjusted in direction several thousand times per second and is not limited in angle rate, thus allowing an AESA-equipped missile to maintain lock.”

Considering the huge advantage an active-array missile has over older munitions, it’s perhaps surprising that Russia is the only country developing one. Amid budget reductions, the U.S. and Europe have essentially stopped investing in new seekers for air-to-air missiles. Almost all of America’s aerospace capital is being poured into fixing problems with the F-35 as well as developing a new stealth bomber.

But Russia typically exports its missile technology to China—and the K-77M should be no exception. “We should not be surprised to see the AESA seeker sold to China for use in Chinese-built PL-12 [missile] in 2015 or 2016,” the scientist warns.

To survive a dogfight with a foe armed with K-77Ms, an American plane needs to be stealthier or employ better radar jamming, the scientist advises. Considering the F-35's many design compromises, U.S. stealth technology probably reached its pinnacle with the F-22, which ended its production run two years ago.

And as for jamming … the Pentagon for years has struggled to develop new electronic countermeasures, with the Air Force in particular having all but abandoned electronic warfare in favor of spending more money on stealth.

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视频http://cen.ce.cn/more/201312/05/t20131205_1857473.shtml

近日,俄罗斯披露其新型K-77M型空空导弹内嵌64单元AESA雷达,预计在2015年2月开始量产,这将有可能成为有史以来第一种内嵌AESA雷达的空空导弹,不过也有其它消息说日本以美制ARAAM 改进而来的AAM-4B远程空空导弹也配有AESA,不知真假。讨论的话题就是空空导弹内嵌AESA雷达对空战所能带来哪些方面的好处?
K-77M型空空导弹内嵌64单元AESA雷达

Traditional air-to-air missiles include a small mechanical radar antenna in the nose. These mechanical radar missiles have a major weakness that occurs in the final seconds before the munition reaches its target.

“The angular motion—and specifically the angle rate of antenna movement as the missile closes on the target—can be so high that the seeker cannot keep up and the target slips out of the antenna beam, causing missile lock to be broken,” the scientist explains.

In other words, if a pilot turns quickly in any direction right before a missile hits his plane, he stands a good chance of slipping outside the field of view of the missile’s radar, causing it to fly harmlessly away. The inability of most munitions to cope with violent maneuvers helps explain why radar-guided air-to-air missiles typically have very low hit rates.

But the K-77M could change all that. Gone is the mechanical array. In its place, Detal’s engineers have added what Russia Today describes as “a large number”—possibly hundreds—of individual digital arrays, each pointing its own radar beam essentially at the speed of light.

“Each cell receives only a part of the signal,” RT reports, “but once digitally processed, the information from all cells is summarized into a ‘full picture,’ enabling the K-77M missile to immediately respond to sharp turns of the target, making interception practically inevitable.”

That’s not hyperbole, according to the scientist. “Because an AESA or phased array is steered electronically, the antenna beam can be adjusted in direction several thousand times per second and is not limited in angle rate, thus allowing an AESA-equipped missile to maintain lock.”

Considering the huge advantage an active-array missile has over older munitions, it’s perhaps surprising that Russia is the only country developing one. Amid budget reductions, the U.S. and Europe have essentially stopped investing in new seekers for air-to-air missiles. Almost all of America’s aerospace capital is being poured into fixing problems with the F-35 as well as developing a new stealth bomber.

But Russia typically exports its missile technology to China—and the K-77M should be no exception. “We should not be surprised to see the AESA seeker sold to China for use in Chinese-built PL-12 [missile] in 2015 or 2016,” the scientist warns.

To survive a dogfight with a foe armed with K-77Ms, an American plane needs to be stealthier or employ better radar jamming, the scientist advises. Considering the F-35's many design compromises, U.S. stealth technology probably reached its pinnacle with the F-22, which ended its production run two years ago.

And as for jamming … the Pentagon for years has struggled to develop new electronic countermeasures, with the Air Force in particular having all but abandoned electronic warfare in favor of spending more money on stealth.

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普京在车臣战争欠我们的人情债会用这些来还
谁再敢忽视大毛电子技术的进步?
普京在车臣战争欠我们的人情债会用这些来还
大毛坚持一个中国的原则就算还情了哈
成本能否控制住?
大势所趋吧,未来截获隐身机就靠这个了
AIM-120D就是阵控雷达,而且好像是不可转动的。{:soso_e145:}
050924086 发表于 2013-12-5 21:19
大毛坚持一个中国的原则就算还情了哈
这点就还清了,如此廉价?
用相控阵做导引头不是好的想法,相控阵的优点是多目标,多功能,这在导引头中发挥不出来,另外相控阵不好做宽带,与平板裂缝天线相比没有明显优势。
帽子这下算是兔气扬眉了吧
050924086 发表于 2013-12-5 21:18
谁再敢忽视大毛电子技术的进步?
有必要激动吗
导引头的真正的趋势是双模复合制导。
AESA和多普勒的主要区别是什么?空空弹有没有必要上AESA?
毛子的空空蛋实际表现远不如宣传的好,这个还是以观后效吧
2233a2010 发表于 2013-12-5 21:20
大势所趋吧,未来截获隐身机就靠这个了
看了下楼上说的都是错的
在共形阵和GaN出来前对空飞弹受限雷达孔径X功率在探距上不会有突破性发展,毛子说了这款飞弹主打不易脱锁,受惠于AESA灵活波树优势之前的末端战术机动将不再有效
AESA和多普勒不是同一层面的问题,前者指的天线,后者指的是信号处理方式,AESA也使用脉冲多普勒信号处理方式,空空弹使用AESA价值不大,因为空空弹并不需要多目标跟踪,采用双模复合制导提高空空弹的抗干扰能力,提高制导精度才是最重要的。
这点就还清了,如此廉价?
不稀罕啊?可以不要啊。
AESA和多普勒不是同一层面的问题,前者指的天线,后者指的是信号处理方式,AESA也使用脉冲多普勒信号处理方 ...
看看,毛子搞了就说价值不大,跟黑土鳖一样手段,要是那天土鳖要搞出来了,立马开吹。
050924086 发表于 2013-12-5 22:03
不稀罕啊?可以不要啊。
去了大家拿以后就这么轻看自己的精神祖国了?
有源阵列,土鳖在几个系列的大型地空弹上都有,比如红9,红X,红XX等,不是什么新技术。

空空弹直径这么小,用单一的有源阵列是否划算?  还是用复合制导头更划算?
雷达弹脱锁的主要原因不是雷达弹天线波束不灵活,而是目标横向机动产生多普勒盲区。
对称进气道,不利于高攻角飞行。这是早期的老架构,还没改?

毛子固冲的燃汽调节比偏低,加速能力和航程都不理想。

气动面过少,末端机动性不容乐观。

有源阵列,土鳖在几个系列的大型地空弹上都有,比如红9,红X,红XX等,不是什么新技术。

空空弹直径这么 ...
求红酒寻的头有源阵图片哈

050924086 发表于 2013-12-5 22:20
求红酒寻的头有源阵图片哈


某些人又玩老一套把戏了。当年毛子展示aesa雷达时候某些人就说“有什么稀奇,J-10B和J-11都是,并且我们都装机实用了”结果今天看来怎么样,牛逼妥妥的吹漏。如今毛子展示了弹载aesa某些人又叫嚣红9的也是了。真是好笑
050924086 发表于 2013-12-5 22:20
求红酒寻的头有源阵图片哈


某些人又玩老一套把戏了。当年毛子展示aesa雷达时候某些人就说“有什么稀奇,J-10B和J-11都是,并且我们都装机实用了”结果今天看来怎么样,牛逼妥妥的吹漏。如今毛子展示了弹载aesa某些人又叫嚣红9的也是了。真是好笑
捏褶J-8 发表于 2013-12-5 22:39
某些人又玩老一套把戏了。当年毛子展示aesa雷达时候某些人就说“有什么稀奇,J-10B和J-11都是,并且我 ...
这没什么可笑。

某所连给歼八换装的有源阵都在推销了。。。。。。
这没什么可笑。

某所连给歼八换装的有源阵都在推销了。。。。。。

求红酒寻的头有源阵图片哈,别转进
050924086 发表于 2013-12-5 22:45
求红酒寻的头有源阵图片哈,别转进
还求红9弹头有源。就是tb的战斗机用有源也是5、6年了一张没有啊。
这帖略诡异啊,扯得都什么东西啊。。。
偷窥 发表于 2013-12-5 21:16
普京在车臣战争欠我们的人情债会用这些来还

阿,欠了什么债呀,欠了多少呀,有没有欠条哦?
再说,也不一定非得用这个还哦



liuchaojiann 发表于 2013-12-5 22:02
AESA和多普勒不是同一层面的问题,前者指的天线,后者指的是信号处理方式,AESA也使用脉冲多普勒信号处理方 ...
抗干扰的啦
050924086 发表于 2013-12-5 22:06
看看,毛子搞了就说价值不大,跟黑土鳖一样手段,要是那天土鳖要搞出来了,立马开吹。
这不是和座舱盖一样么,中国有了以后就不觉得新奇了
只要关于毛子电子设备的消息一出,帖子基本就变成鸡国毛子电子设备谁更好的口水战了。。。
看了下楼上说的都是错的
在共形阵和GaN出来前对空飞弹受限雷达孔径X功率在探距上不会有突破性发展,毛子 ...
aesa对隐身目标的截获率明显高于现有的平板缝隙雷达啊,即使无法在更远距离上锁定隐身目标,也能保证在搜索到微弱信号时不易丢失,我也不算说错吧?
看了下楼上说的都是错的
在共形阵和GaN出来前对空飞弹受限雷达孔径X功率在探距上不会有突破性发展,毛子 ...
貌似毛子这个64单元的就是氮化镓的。
liuchaojiann 发表于 2013-12-5 21:40
用相控阵做导引头不是好的想法,相控阵的优点是多目标,多功能,这在导引头中发挥不出来,另外相控阵不好做 ...
反应快,同尺寸天线搜索距离更远,快捷变频防干扰。意义非同一般,只是毛子这个是转动的天线,貌似不是很看好了。AIM120D那个天线是不转动的。

这玩意是未来雷达空空导弹必备的。只是毛子这个到底怎么样,还要看他们怎么吹
linjf001 发表于 2013-12-5 21:46
AESA和多普勒的主要区别是什么?空空弹有没有必要上AESA?
反应快,同尺寸天线搜索距离更远,快捷变频防干扰。意义非同一般,只是毛子这个是转动的天线,貌似不是很看好了。AIM120D那个天线是不转动的。

这玩意是未来雷达空空导弹必备的。只是毛子这个到底怎么样,还要看他们怎么吹
TAOG 发表于 2013-12-5 21:49
看了下楼上说的都是错的
在共形阵和GaN出来前对空飞弹受限雷达孔径X功率在探距上不会有突破性发展,毛子 ...
不是不能机动脱锁,是比以前难一点而已。这雷达还是PD原理,只是反应快点。
成本能否控制住?
这说明毛子AESA组件已经白菜化了。成了消耗品。
其实人家说的很清楚,这款导弹就是对付战机末端机动的,AESA相比于多普勒,避免的目标横向机动时,丢失目标的的缺点,
至少说明AESA便宜了很多