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米帝的权威专业杂志《航空周刊》现在刊登关于土鳖武直-10的文章,文章引用卡莫夫总设计师米歇耶夫(Sergei Mikheyev)披露的说法,说武直10是毛子的卡莫夫公司在九十年代设计的。俺一直没留心过兔子官方以前对武直的来源和设计有过啥说法,大家肿么评论《航空周刊》的这篇文章啊?



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Russian Roots Revealed In China's Z-10
By Guy Norris guy_norris@aviationweek.com, Anthony Osborne tony_osborne@aviationweek.com
Source: AWIN First

March 07, 2013

Sergei Mikheyev, general designer of the Kamov Design Bureau, has revealed that the Russian helicopter company secretly designed the baseline version of the Z-10 attack helicopter for China in the mid-1990s.

The two-seat helicopter made its public debut at the 2012 Zhuhai air show in China, having undergone extensive testing by the People’s Liberation Army for several years. While an outward resemblance to the AgustaWestland A129 Mangusta was widely discussed, no connection was ever made to Kamov until Mikheyev’s announcement at the Heli-Expo convention here on March 6.

Commenting during a briefing on the Kamov product line, Mikheyev says the decision to reveal the Russian company’s role in the design of the Z-10 followed its unveiling by China at the air show late last year.

Kamov worked on the preliminary design at China’s request in 1995. “Due to understandable reasons this was kept secret, but we made the design and it was accepted by China,” Mikheyev says. The baseline design, which was known internally as Project 941, “was accepted for development,” he adds.

Until now, it was generally believed that the aircraft had been designed in China and that the only real foreign input was in the powerplant.

The Z-10’s development has been highly controversial. Five aircraft were powered by Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6C-67C engines fitted with full authority digital engine controls developed by Hamilton Sundstrand. Following investigations by federal agencies, United Technologies Corp., the parent company of the two firms, was fined $75 million for violating the Arms Export Control Act and making false statements in connection with the illegal export to China of U.S.-origin military software in June 2012.

According to evidence heard in the trial, China has sourced the engines under the pretense of producing a civil medium transport. PW&C provided up to 10 engines for the aircraft. Since then, it has been suggested that Z-10 manufacturer Changhe Aircraft Industries Corporation has had to use a lower-rated indigenously-built engine in the helicopter, forcing it to undertake a significant weight-saving program until a new, more powerful engine becomes available.

Kamov is better known for its co-axial designs such as the Ka-32 transport helicopter and also the Ka-50/52 attack helicopters. The company is producing the Ka-62 utility helicopter.

“So I wish success to the helicopter,” Mikheyev adds.

米帝的权威专业杂志《航空周刊》现在刊登关于土鳖武直-10的文章,文章引用卡莫夫总设计师米歇耶夫(Sergei Mikheyev)披露的说法,说武直10是毛子的卡莫夫公司在九十年代设计的。俺一直没留心过兔子官方以前对武直的来源和设计有过啥说法,大家肿么评论《航空周刊》的这篇文章啊?

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Russian Roots Revealed In China's Z-10
By Guy Norris guy_norris@aviationweek.com, Anthony Osborne tony_osborne@aviationweek.com
Source: AWIN First

March 07, 2013

Sergei Mikheyev, general designer of the Kamov Design Bureau, has revealed that the Russian helicopter company secretly designed the baseline version of the Z-10 attack helicopter for China in the mid-1990s.

The two-seat helicopter made its public debut at the 2012 Zhuhai air show in China, having undergone extensive testing by the People’s Liberation Army for several years. While an outward resemblance to the AgustaWestland A129 Mangusta was widely discussed, no connection was ever made to Kamov until Mikheyev’s announcement at the Heli-Expo convention here on March 6.

Commenting during a briefing on the Kamov product line, Mikheyev says the decision to reveal the Russian company’s role in the design of the Z-10 followed its unveiling by China at the air show late last year.

Kamov worked on the preliminary design at China’s request in 1995. “Due to understandable reasons this was kept secret, but we made the design and it was accepted by China,” Mikheyev says. The baseline design, which was known internally as Project 941, “was accepted for development,” he adds.

Until now, it was generally believed that the aircraft had been designed in China and that the only real foreign input was in the powerplant.

The Z-10’s development has been highly controversial. Five aircraft were powered by Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6C-67C engines fitted with full authority digital engine controls developed by Hamilton Sundstrand. Following investigations by federal agencies, United Technologies Corp., the parent company of the two firms, was fined $75 million for violating the Arms Export Control Act and making false statements in connection with the illegal export to China of U.S.-origin military software in June 2012.

According to evidence heard in the trial, China has sourced the engines under the pretense of producing a civil medium transport. PW&C provided up to 10 engines for the aircraft. Since then, it has been suggested that Z-10 manufacturer Changhe Aircraft Industries Corporation has had to use a lower-rated indigenously-built engine in the helicopter, forcing it to undertake a significant weight-saving program until a new, more powerful engine becomes available.

Kamov is better known for its co-axial designs such as the Ka-32 transport helicopter and also the Ka-50/52 attack helicopters. The company is producing the Ka-62 utility helicopter.

“So I wish success to the helicopter,” Mikheyev adds.


文章大意:

卡莫夫设计局的总设计师米歇耶夫三月六日披露说俄罗斯的这家直升机公司在九十年代中期秘密的为中国设计了武直-10的全部整体设计。

武直-10在2012年珠海航展上露面时已经经过中国人民解放军多年的测试。在米歇耶夫三月六日披露此事前一般都认为武直-10是中国的本土设计,而专业人士一直在吐槽武直-10外形模仿A129 Mangusta,但没人想到武直-10居然和卡莫夫设计局有关系。

米歇耶夫说,2012年珠海航展后卡莫夫公司决定公开他们参加武直-10项目的消息。武直-10的内部的名称为“941项目”。米歇耶夫说,武直-10项目一直争议非常大。第一批五架武直-10用的是普惠加拿大的PT6C-67C发动机,并且引进了Hamilton Sundstrand公司的发动机控制系统。惠普和Hamilton Sundstrand这两家公司去年六月份为此被美国政府以违反武器出口法的理由处罚了七千五百万美元。

从美国法院审判的资料上看,中国是以生产民用飞机的名义从美国采购了10套该发动机设备。在美国公司被罚之后武直-10的厂家在得到其他新的发动机前只能被迫采用中国土产的低档发动机,同时让武直-10大幅减重。

卡莫夫公司以其共轴浆设计技术和卡-50/52武装直升机著称。该公司还生产卡-62多用途直升机。

站在卡莫夫车间生产线旁的米歇耶夫最后对采访的记者说,祝武直-10成功!

文章大意:

卡莫夫设计局的总设计师米歇耶夫三月六日披露说俄罗斯的这家直升机公司在九十年代中期秘密的为中国设计了武直-10的全部整体设计。

武直-10在2012年珠海航展上露面时已经经过中国人民解放军多年的测试。在米歇耶夫三月六日披露此事前一般都认为武直-10是中国的本土设计,而专业人士一直在吐槽武直-10外形模仿A129 Mangusta,但没人想到武直-10居然和卡莫夫设计局有关系。

米歇耶夫说,2012年珠海航展后卡莫夫公司决定公开他们参加武直-10项目的消息。武直-10的内部的名称为“941项目”。米歇耶夫说,武直-10项目一直争议非常大。第一批五架武直-10用的是普惠加拿大的PT6C-67C发动机,并且引进了Hamilton Sundstrand公司的发动机控制系统。惠普和Hamilton Sundstrand这两家公司去年六月份为此被美国政府以违反武器出口法的理由处罚了七千五百万美元。

从美国法院审判的资料上看,中国是以生产民用飞机的名义从美国采购了10套该发动机设备。在美国公司被罚之后武直-10的厂家在得到其他新的发动机前只能被迫采用中国土产的低档发动机,同时让武直-10大幅减重。

卡莫夫公司以其共轴浆设计技术和卡-50/52武装直升机著称。该公司还生产卡-62多用途直升机。

站在卡莫夫车间生产线旁的米歇耶夫最后对采访的记者说,祝武直-10成功!
While an outward resemblance to the AgustaWestland A129 Mangusta was widely discussed, no connection was ever made to Kamov until Mikheyev’s announcement at the Heli-Expo convention here on March 6.
是个正常军迷都觉得像A129,和卡莫夫扯不上关系


记得要把“米帝的权威专业杂志《航空周刊》”和“引用”两个字标红

记得要把“米帝的权威专业杂志《航空周刊》”和“引用”两个字标红
我的电脑病毒 发表于 2013-3-8 13:55
记得要把米帝的权威专业杂志《航空周刊》和引用两个字标红
这里版规森严,不可乱用大字报。
节操是什么?
虾,绳子和蛋的关糸。
莫谈国事 发表于 2013-3-8 14:27
这里版规森严,不可乱用大字报。
我只是标红,没有大字报啊
我的电脑病毒 发表于 2013-3-8 14:35
我只是标红,没有大字报啊
斑竹凶猛,出现一个近似的脏字,都会扣分
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莫谈国事 发表于 2013-3-8 14:40
俺突然想起一直被嘲笑的三哥的LCH来了:


查了一下,三哥的LCH的引擎是和法国共同开发的,和土鳖比水平怎么样?

LCH武直的引擎:


莫谈国事 发表于 2013-3-8 14:40
俺突然想起一直被嘲笑的三哥的LCH来了:


查了一下,三哥的LCH的引擎是和法国共同开发的,和土鳖比水平怎么样?

LCH武直的引擎:

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莫谈国事 发表于 2013-3-8 14:40
俺突然想起一直被嘲笑的三哥的LCH来了:

三个这货单看外形是有点酷的,好不好用就另说了
三哥的外形酷?
这审美水平就不说什么了
无视就好
看到中国一天天的强大,毛子心里肯定不舒服
各种下三滥的手段都使出来了
1 90年代提出卡局帮助设计一款直升机,之后中国接手完成,这个完全可能。
2.谁设计的无关紧要,重要的是现在中国有了自己的专用武直。
3.国际合作开发武器装备是再正常不过的事情,这个和民族自尊心和自豪感扯不上关系。
你信吗?
90年代的设计?

听着不真呐。
lonqixia 发表于 2013-3-10 13:41
三个这货单看外形是有点酷的,好不好用就另说了
好用不好用是要看是法国组装的还是印度组装的了
莫谈国事 发表于 2013-3-10 13:37
查了一下,三哥的LCH的引擎是和法国共同开发的,和土鳖比水平怎么样?

LCH武直的引擎:
咱们的不也是在法国海豚直升机的发动机上开发出来的。