超级军网[原创吐血翻译]毛主义者眼中的印度与中国
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman"><st1:country-region><st1:place>INDIA</st1:place></st1:country-region> & <st1:country-region><st1:place>CHINA</st1:place></st1:country-region>: <I>AS SEEN BY MAOISTS--PART II</I><FONT size=3> </FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>毛主义者眼中的印度与中国
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>by B.Raman
The Communist Party of India (Maoist), which came into existence on September 21, 2004, through the merger of the Maoist Communist Centre of India and the Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist--People's War ) , accuses China and the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) of having betrayed Marxism-Leninism-Maoism (MLM) and the world's proletarian movement by allowing itself to be integrated into the world capitalist movement. It looks upon Deng Xiao-Ping and his successors in <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> as revisionists .</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>印度共产党<FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT>毛泽东主义<FONT face="Times New Roman">)</FONT>于<FONT face="Times New Roman">2004</FONT>年<FONT face="Times New Roman">9</FONT>月<FONT face="Times New Roman">21</FONT>日由原印度毛泽东共产主义中心与印度共产党<FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT>马克思列宁主义人民战争<FONT face="Times New Roman">)</FONT>合并组成<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>该党<FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT>以下简称毛印共<FONT face="Times New Roman">)</FONT>指控中国及中国共产党通过允许自身融入世界资本主义洪流而背叛了马克思列宁毛泽东主义<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>并视中国的邓小平及其继任人为修正主义者<FONT face="Times New Roman">.
2. In an interview given after the formation of the CPI (Maoist), Ganapathy, one of its leaders, who used to be the General Secretary of the CPI (ML-PW), said: "Relative to the 1960s and 70s, the proletarian movement is weaker. The principal reason for this is the growth of the revisionist trends worldwide and the betrayal of the national liberation movements of the 60s and the 70s. The reversals in the Soviet Union (1956) and then in China (1976) and the conversion of the Communist Party of Soviet Union (CPSU) and the CPC (Communist Party of China) into revisionist parties fuelled rightist and revisionist parties throughout the world. The restoration of capitalism in these former socialist societies and the disintegration of the socialist camp had a very negative impact on the advance of the world revolution. Utilizing the situation of this setback, the imperialists went on an ideological and political offensive against communism trying to show it as being outdated and floating various new forms of dissent theories. On the other hand, most of the genuine communist revolutionary forces were in disarray and ideological and political confusion was rife with no international centre. It is these factors that have resulted in the relative weakening of the Maoist forces today. In addition, the massive, genocidal repression unleashed on all revolutionary forces (as witnessed in Indo-China, <st1:place>Latin America</st1:place>, and now <st1:place>Asia</st1:place>) further created impediments in growth. "</FONT></FONT></P>伽那帕什, 原印度共产党(马克思列宁主义人民战争)的总书记, 现毛印共的领导人之一, 在毛印共成立后的一次采访中说:” 相对于20世纪6,70年代，无产阶级运动更为虚弱了．这主要归咎于世界范围的修正主义蔓延及对六七十年代的国家解放运动的背叛. 苏联(1956)和中国(1976)的转向及苏,中共的修正主义化为全世界的右倾修正主义政党提供了口实. 这些前社会主义国家的资本主义复辟以及社会主义阵营的分崩离析给世界革命发展带来了负面冲击. 利用了当前的挫折, 帝国主义发动了对共产主义的意识形态与政治上的进攻, 他们试图想表明共产主义已过时并试图传播多种新形式的异端邪说. 另一方面, 大多数真正的共产主义革命力量处于混乱之中, 并且由于没有共产国际中心的存在,意识形态上和政治上的迷惘也很普遍. 正是这些因素导致了今天毛泽东主义力量的相对弱化. 此外, 正如我们在印度支那, 拉丁美洲及现在的亚洲所见的, 各地革命武装发动的大规模灭绝性屠戮也为我们的成长带来了新的障碍 ”
(待续)
<P><FONT size=3>毛主义者眼中的印度与中国
</FONT>
<p>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>by B.Raman
The Communist Party of India (Maoist), which came into existence on September 21, 2004, through the merger of the Maoist Communist Centre of India and the Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist--People's War ) , accuses China and the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) of having betrayed Marxism-Leninism-Maoism (MLM) and the world's proletarian movement by allowing itself to be integrated into the world capitalist movement. It looks upon Deng Xiao-Ping and his successors in <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> as revisionists .</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>印度共产党<FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT>毛泽东主义<FONT face="Times New Roman">)</FONT>于<FONT face="Times New Roman">2004</FONT>年<FONT face="Times New Roman">9</FONT>月<FONT face="Times New Roman">21</FONT>日由原印度毛泽东共产主义中心与印度共产党<FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT>马克思列宁主义人民战争<FONT face="Times New Roman">)</FONT>合并组成<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>该党<FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT>以下简称毛印共<FONT face="Times New Roman">)</FONT>指控中国及中国共产党通过允许自身融入世界资本主义洪流而背叛了马克思列宁毛泽东主义<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>并视中国的邓小平及其继任人为修正主义者<FONT face="Times New Roman">.
2. In an interview given after the formation of the CPI (Maoist), Ganapathy, one of its leaders, who used to be the General Secretary of the CPI (ML-PW), said: "Relative to the 1960s and 70s, the proletarian movement is weaker. The principal reason for this is the growth of the revisionist trends worldwide and the betrayal of the national liberation movements of the 60s and the 70s. The reversals in the Soviet Union (1956) and then in China (1976) and the conversion of the Communist Party of Soviet Union (CPSU) and the CPC (Communist Party of China) into revisionist parties fuelled rightist and revisionist parties throughout the world. The restoration of capitalism in these former socialist societies and the disintegration of the socialist camp had a very negative impact on the advance of the world revolution. Utilizing the situation of this setback, the imperialists went on an ideological and political offensive against communism trying to show it as being outdated and floating various new forms of dissent theories. On the other hand, most of the genuine communist revolutionary forces were in disarray and ideological and political confusion was rife with no international centre. It is these factors that have resulted in the relative weakening of the Maoist forces today. In addition, the massive, genocidal repression unleashed on all revolutionary forces (as witnessed in Indo-China, <st1:place>Latin America</st1:place>, and now <st1:place>Asia</st1:place>) further created impediments in growth. "</FONT></FONT></P>伽那帕什, 原印度共产党(马克思列宁主义人民战争)的总书记, 现毛印共的领导人之一, 在毛印共成立后的一次采访中说:” 相对于20世纪6,70年代，无产阶级运动更为虚弱了．这主要归咎于世界范围的修正主义蔓延及对六七十年代的国家解放运动的背叛. 苏联(1956)和中国(1976)的转向及苏,中共的修正主义化为全世界的右倾修正主义政党提供了口实. 这些前社会主义国家的资本主义复辟以及社会主义阵营的分崩离析给世界革命发展带来了负面冲击. 利用了当前的挫折, 帝国主义发动了对共产主义的意识形态与政治上的进攻, 他们试图想表明共产主义已过时并试图传播多种新形式的异端邪说. 另一方面, 大多数真正的共产主义革命力量处于混乱之中, 并且由于没有共产国际中心的存在,意识形态上和政治上的迷惘也很普遍. 正是这些因素导致了今天毛泽东主义力量的相对弱化. 此外, 正如我们在印度支那, 拉丁美洲及现在的亚洲所见的, 各地革命武装发动的大规模灭绝性屠戮也为我们的成长带来了新的障碍 ”
(待续)
[此贴子已经被作者于2005-2-19 7:34:04编辑过]
<P><FONT size=3>毛主义者眼中的印度与中国
</FONT>
<p>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>by B.Raman
The Communist Party of India (Maoist), which came into existence on September 21, 2004, through the merger of the Maoist Communist Centre of India and the Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist--People's War ) , accuses China and the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) of having betrayed Marxism-Leninism-Maoism (MLM) and the world's proletarian movement by allowing itself to be integrated into the world capitalist movement. It looks upon Deng Xiao-Ping and his successors in <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> as revisionists .</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>印度共产党<FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT>毛泽东主义<FONT face="Times New Roman">)</FONT>于<FONT face="Times New Roman">2004</FONT>年<FONT face="Times New Roman">9</FONT>月<FONT face="Times New Roman">21</FONT>日由原印度毛泽东共产主义中心与印度共产党<FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT>马克思列宁主义人民战争<FONT face="Times New Roman">)</FONT>合并组成<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>该党<FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT>以下简称毛印共<FONT face="Times New Roman">)</FONT>指控中国及中国共产党通过允许自身融入世界资本主义洪流而背叛了马克思列宁毛泽东主义<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>并视中国的邓小平及其继任人为修正主义者<FONT face="Times New Roman">.
2. In an interview given after the formation of the CPI (Maoist), Ganapathy, one of its leaders, who used to be the General Secretary of the CPI (ML-PW), said: "Relative to the 1960s and 70s, the proletarian movement is weaker. The principal reason for this is the growth of the revisionist trends worldwide and the betrayal of the national liberation movements of the 60s and the 70s. The reversals in the Soviet Union (1956) and then in China (1976) and the conversion of the Communist Party of Soviet Union (CPSU) and the CPC (Communist Party of China) into revisionist parties fuelled rightist and revisionist parties throughout the world. The restoration of capitalism in these former socialist societies and the disintegration of the socialist camp had a very negative impact on the advance of the world revolution. Utilizing the situation of this setback, the imperialists went on an ideological and political offensive against communism trying to show it as being outdated and floating various new forms of dissent theories. On the other hand, most of the genuine communist revolutionary forces were in disarray and ideological and political confusion was rife with no international centre. It is these factors that have resulted in the relative weakening of the Maoist forces today. In addition, the massive, genocidal repression unleashed on all revolutionary forces (as witnessed in Indo-China, <st1:place>Latin America</st1:place>, and now <st1:place>Asia</st1:place>) further created impediments in growth. "</FONT></FONT></P>伽那帕什, 原印度共产党(马克思列宁主义人民战争)的总书记, 现毛印共的领导人之一, 在毛印共成立后的一次采访中说:” 相对于20世纪6,70年代，无产阶级运动更为虚弱了．这主要归咎于世界范围的修正主义蔓延及对六七十年代的国家解放运动的背叛. 苏联(1956)和中国(1976)的转向及苏,中共的修正主义化为全世界的右倾修正主义政党提供了口实. 这些前社会主义国家的资本主义复辟以及社会主义阵营的分崩离析给世界革命发展带来了负面冲击. 利用了当前的挫折, 帝国主义发动了对共产主义的意识形态与政治上的进攻, 他们试图想表明共产主义已过时并试图传播多种新形式的异端邪说. 另一方面, 大多数真正的共产主义革命力量处于混乱之中, 并且由于没有共产国际中心的存在,意识形态上和政治上的迷惘也很普遍. 正是这些因素导致了今天毛泽东主义力量的相对弱化. 此外, 正如我们在印度支那, 拉丁美洲及现在的亚洲所见的, 各地革命武装发动的大规模灭绝性屠戮也为我们的成长带来了新的障碍 ”
(待续)
[此贴子已经被作者于2005-2-19 7:34:04编辑过]
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman"><st1:country-region><st1:place>INDIA</st1:place></st1:country-region> & <st1:country-region><st1:place>CHINA</st1:place></st1:country-region>: <I>AS SEEN BY MAOISTS--PART II</I><FONT size=3> </FONT></FONT></P><P><FONT size=3>毛主义者眼中的印度与中国
</FONT>
<p>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>by B.Raman
The Communist Party of India (Maoist), which came into existence on September 21, 2004, through the merger of the Maoist Communist Centre of India and the Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist--People's War ) , accuses China and the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) of having betrayed Marxism-Leninism-Maoism (MLM) and the world's proletarian movement by allowing itself to be integrated into the world capitalist movement. It looks upon Deng Xiao-Ping and his successors in <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> as revisionists .</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>印度共产党<FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT>毛泽东主义<FONT face="Times New Roman">)</FONT>于<FONT face="Times New Roman">2004</FONT>年<FONT face="Times New Roman">9</FONT>月<FONT face="Times New Roman">21</FONT>日由原印度毛泽东共产主义中心与印度共产党<FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT>马克思列宁主义人民战争<FONT face="Times New Roman">)</FONT>合并组成<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>该党<FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT>以下简称毛印共<FONT face="Times New Roman">)</FONT>指控中国及中国共产党通过允许自身融入世界资本主义洪流而背叛了马克思列宁毛泽东主义<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>并视中国的邓小平及其继任人为修正主义者<FONT face="Times New Roman">.
2. In an interview given after the formation of the CPI (Maoist), Ganapathy, one of its leaders, who used to be the General Secretary of the CPI (ML-PW), said: "Relative to the 1960s and 70s, the proletarian movement is weaker. The principal reason for this is the growth of the revisionist trends worldwide and the betrayal of the national liberation movements of the 60s and the 70s. The reversals in the Soviet Union (1956) and then in China (1976) and the conversion of the Communist Party of Soviet Union (CPSU) and the CPC (Communist Party of China) into revisionist parties fuelled rightist and revisionist parties throughout the world. The restoration of capitalism in these former socialist societies and the disintegration of the socialist camp had a very negative impact on the advance of the world revolution. Utilizing the situation of this setback, the imperialists went on an ideological and political offensive against communism trying to show it as being outdated and floating various new forms of dissent theories. On the other hand, most of the genuine communist revolutionary forces were in disarray and ideological and political confusion was rife with no international centre. It is these factors that have resulted in the relative weakening of the Maoist forces today. In addition, the massive, genocidal repression unleashed on all revolutionary forces (as witnessed in Indo-China, <st1:place>Latin America</st1:place>, and now <st1:place>Asia</st1:place>) further created impediments in growth. "</FONT></FONT></P>伽那帕什, 原印度共产党(马克思列宁主义人民战争)的总书记, 现毛印共的领导人之一, 在毛印共成立后的一次采访中说:” 相对于20世纪6,70年代，无产阶级运动更为虚弱了．这主要归咎于世界范围的修正主义蔓延及对六七十年代的国家解放运动的背叛. 苏联(1956)和中国(1976)的转向及苏,中共的修正主义化为全世界的右倾修正主义政党提供了口实. 这些前社会主义国家的资本主义复辟以及社会主义阵营的分崩离析给世界革命发展带来了负面冲击. 利用了当前的挫折, 帝国主义发动了对共产主义的意识形态与政治上的进攻, 他们试图想表明共产主义已过时并试图传播多种新形式的异端邪说. 另一方面, 大多数真正的共产主义革命力量处于混乱之中, 并且由于没有共产国际中心的存在,意识形态上和政治上的迷惘也很普遍. 正是这些因素导致了今天毛泽东主义力量的相对弱化. 此外, 正如我们在印度支那, 拉丁美洲及现在的亚洲所见的, 各地革命武装发动的大规模灭绝性屠戮也为我们的成长带来了新的障碍 ”
(待续)
[此贴子已经被作者于2005-2-19 7:34:04编辑过]
<P>虽然我不晓得你的翻译是不是全真确，不过你的努力我是晓得的。</P><P>你说他们连自己的实践经验都没有，凭什么对我国几十年实践经验的社会主义指手画脚，简直是莫名其妙嘛！</P>[em03]
[此贴子已经被作者于2005-2-19 7:51:21编辑过]
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>6. The Maoists outside China accuse its post-1976 leadership of not only betraying MLM, but also of abandoning its internationalist obligations by ceasing to support the People's War being waged by the followers of Mao in different countries such as India and Nepal. They say: " The would be social-imperialist and comprador bourgeoisie of <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> wanted to do away with the ideological struggle in <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> to focus on</FONT>
<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>economic stability and capitalist restoration. The bourgeoisie in the party only too gladly abandoned People's War and internationalist obligations, as we see in <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> since 1976.Today there is no socialist <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> to fulfill its internationalist obligations."</FONT></P><P><FONT size=3>中国以外的毛主义者指责中国的<FONT face="Times New Roman">1976</FONT>年以后的领导人不仅背叛了马克思列宁毛泽东主义<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>而且由停止资助象印度<FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT>尼泊尔这样的国家中的毛泽东的追随者开展人民战争而背弃了它的国际主义义务<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>他们说<FONT face="Times New Roman">: “</FONT>在中国的社会主义资本家和买办资产阶级想扼杀中国内部的路线斗争<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>并集中注意力在经济稳定和资本主义复兴上<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>正如我们看到的<FONT face="Times New Roman">1976</FONT>年以后的中国那样<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>其党内的资产阶级兴高采烈地背弃了它的人民战争和国际主义义务<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>今天<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>已经没有履行国际主义义务的社会主义中国了<FONT face="Times New Roman">.”
7. To quote Prachanda, Chairman and founder of the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist): " For the masses there is no alternative to rebellion and revolution, given the objective background of exploitation, repression and poverty prevalent in the semi-feudal and semi-colonial countries of the <st1:place>Third World</st1:place>. In <st1:country-region><st1:place>Nepal</st1:place></st1:country-region>, our first effort was to correctly grasp the science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism. For this, we strove to link ourselves with the arduous and challenging ideological struggle waged by the genuine communist revolutionaries of the world against the Chinese counter-revolution after the death of Comrade Mao Tse-tung. Taking the synthesis of the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution, the highest expression of conscious class struggle, as our starting point, we delved into serious study."</FONT></FONT></P><P><FONT size=3>引述尼泊尔共产党<FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT>毛泽东主义<FONT face="Times New Roman">)</FONT>的主席及创始人<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>普拉千达的话说<FONT face="Times New Roman">: “</FONT>在第三世界半封建半殖民地国家内部剥削<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>压迫<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>贫穷蔓延的客观背景下<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>对于广大人民群众而言除了反抗与革命别无它徒<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>在尼泊尔<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>我们的第一步是正确把握马克思列宁毛泽东主义科学<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>为了达到这一步<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>我们把自己融入了由世界上真正的共产主义革命运动力量发起的反对后毛时代的中国反革命的艰巨而挑战的路线斗争中<FONT face="Times New Roman">.</FONT>我们把融会贯通无产阶级文化大革命<FONT face="Times New Roman">-</FONT>自觉的阶级斗争的最高表述形式<FONT face="Times New Roman">-</FONT>作为出发点<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>开始了认真地研究学习<FONT face="Times New Roman">.”
8. The Chinese accuse the so-called Maoists of distorting Mao's Thoughts and besmirching the name of Mao by calling their indiscriminate killing of civilians a People's War. While commenting on the coup staged by King Gyanendra at a press conference at <st1:City><st1:place>Beijing</st1:place></st1:City> on <st1:date Month="2" Day="3" Year="2005">Feb. 3, 2005</st1:date>, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Kong Quan expressed his indignation at foreign media who call <st1:country-region><st1:place>Nepal</st1:place></st1:country-region>'s anti-government rebels "Maoists".</FONT></FONT></P><P>中国人指责那些所谓的毛主义者歪曲了毛泽东思想,并就其把无故杀害平民赋名为”人民战争”的举动称为是玷污了毛的名誉. 在2005年2月3号北京的一次新闻发布会上,就尼泊尔的加兰德拉国王发动的政变作出评论时, 中国外交部发言人孔泉对有外国媒体将尼泊尔的反政府叛军称为”毛主义者”, 表达了愤慨.</P><P>(待续)</P>
<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>economic stability and capitalist restoration. The bourgeoisie in the party only too gladly abandoned People's War and internationalist obligations, as we see in <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> since 1976.Today there is no socialist <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> to fulfill its internationalist obligations."</FONT></P><P><FONT size=3>中国以外的毛主义者指责中国的<FONT face="Times New Roman">1976</FONT>年以后的领导人不仅背叛了马克思列宁毛泽东主义<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>而且由停止资助象印度<FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT>尼泊尔这样的国家中的毛泽东的追随者开展人民战争而背弃了它的国际主义义务<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>他们说<FONT face="Times New Roman">: “</FONT>在中国的社会主义资本家和买办资产阶级想扼杀中国内部的路线斗争<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>并集中注意力在经济稳定和资本主义复兴上<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>正如我们看到的<FONT face="Times New Roman">1976</FONT>年以后的中国那样<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>其党内的资产阶级兴高采烈地背弃了它的人民战争和国际主义义务<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>今天<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>已经没有履行国际主义义务的社会主义中国了<FONT face="Times New Roman">.”
7. To quote Prachanda, Chairman and founder of the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist): " For the masses there is no alternative to rebellion and revolution, given the objective background of exploitation, repression and poverty prevalent in the semi-feudal and semi-colonial countries of the <st1:place>Third World</st1:place>. In <st1:country-region><st1:place>Nepal</st1:place></st1:country-region>, our first effort was to correctly grasp the science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism. For this, we strove to link ourselves with the arduous and challenging ideological struggle waged by the genuine communist revolutionaries of the world against the Chinese counter-revolution after the death of Comrade Mao Tse-tung. Taking the synthesis of the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution, the highest expression of conscious class struggle, as our starting point, we delved into serious study."</FONT></FONT></P><P><FONT size=3>引述尼泊尔共产党<FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT>毛泽东主义<FONT face="Times New Roman">)</FONT>的主席及创始人<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>普拉千达的话说<FONT face="Times New Roman">: “</FONT>在第三世界半封建半殖民地国家内部剥削<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>压迫<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>贫穷蔓延的客观背景下<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>对于广大人民群众而言除了反抗与革命别无它徒<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>在尼泊尔<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>我们的第一步是正确把握马克思列宁毛泽东主义科学<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>为了达到这一步<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>我们把自己融入了由世界上真正的共产主义革命运动力量发起的反对后毛时代的中国反革命的艰巨而挑战的路线斗争中<FONT face="Times New Roman">.</FONT>我们把融会贯通无产阶级文化大革命<FONT face="Times New Roman">-</FONT>自觉的阶级斗争的最高表述形式<FONT face="Times New Roman">-</FONT>作为出发点<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>开始了认真地研究学习<FONT face="Times New Roman">.”
8. The Chinese accuse the so-called Maoists of distorting Mao's Thoughts and besmirching the name of Mao by calling their indiscriminate killing of civilians a People's War. While commenting on the coup staged by King Gyanendra at a press conference at <st1:City><st1:place>Beijing</st1:place></st1:City> on <st1:date Month="2" Day="3" Year="2005">Feb. 3, 2005</st1:date>, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Kong Quan expressed his indignation at foreign media who call <st1:country-region><st1:place>Nepal</st1:place></st1:country-region>'s anti-government rebels "Maoists".</FONT></FONT></P><P>中国人指责那些所谓的毛主义者歪曲了毛泽东思想,并就其把无故杀害平民赋名为”人民战争”的举动称为是玷污了毛的名誉. 在2005年2月3号北京的一次新闻发布会上,就尼泊尔的加兰德拉国王发动的政变作出评论时, 中国外交部发言人孔泉对有外国媒体将尼泊尔的反政府叛军称为”毛主义者”, 表达了愤慨.</P><P>(待续)</P>
切`生产力和生产关系的关系,我们初中生都知道,他们以为自己对社会主义了解比我们多多少啊
<FONT size=3>中国以外的毛主义者指责中国的<FONT face="Times New Roman">1976</FONT>年以后的领导人不仅背叛了马克思列宁毛泽东主义<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>而且由停止资助象印度<FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT>尼泊尔这样的国家中的毛泽东的追随者开展人民战争而背弃了它的国际主义义务<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>他们说<FONT face="Times New Roman">: “</FONT>在中国的社会主义资本家和买办资产阶级想扼杀中国内部的路线斗争<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>并集中注意力在经济稳定和资本主义复兴上<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>正如我们看到的<FONT face="Times New Roman">1976</FONT>年以后的中国那样<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>其党内的资产阶级兴高采烈地背弃了它的人民战争和国际主义义务<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>今天<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>已经没有履行国际主义义务的社会主义中国了<FONT face="Times New Roman">.”
现实的说等我们完成转形了,我们就是最高生产力和生产关系的结合,至于别人,除非世界人民,可他们啊三,瞧不起咱们,咱们凭什么帮他们啊?</FONT></FONT>
现实的说等我们完成转形了,我们就是最高生产力和生产关系的结合,至于别人,除非世界人民,可他们啊三,瞧不起咱们,咱们凭什么帮他们啊?</FONT></FONT>
别忘了，“三个代表”是毛思想的升华啊！！！
是毛旗上的文章?
<P>他们是教条主义,本本主义者</P><P>嘿嘿</P>[em08][em08][em08][em08]
<P> 实践是检验真理的唯一标准</P><P>虽然改革给中国带来了堆积如山的社会问题</P><P>但我还是不愿意回到文革时期</P>
这帮笨人，什么年代了还闹个甚
<P>不就是中国停止对他们的援助了吗，跑来攻击我们伟大的社会主义（中国特色）政权，真是不知所谓。</P>[em01][em01][em01]
<P> 不要援助,想想越南和朝鲜</P><P>还不如我们的黑人弟兄和小巴同志知道感恩戴德</P>
<P>阿三的言论很搞笑的</P>
那帮左派。 现在还在搞文化大革命。
翻译很简单容易, 就是输入中文太费劲了, 有没有用嘴说就能输入中文的软件啊? 累死了, 手酸臂痛, 坚持不下去了!
要是谁有上述的软件, 我可以大量的把印度, 巴及丝叹, 北美等 但凡是英文的有意思的文章翻给大家, 反正我主要都是看英文网站, 内容浩如烟海啊!!! 这一篇毛主义者眼中的印度与中国后面还有许多内容, 可是我实在是怕输入中文, 不知是否还能坚持翻下去?
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>9. What do the ordinary Chinese people feel about the Maoists of Nepal? To get an idea, I visited the online readers' forum section of the "China Daily". The following remarks recorded much before the coup are illustrative-- and illuminating:</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>普通中国人怎么看尼泊尔的毛主义者呢<FONT face="Times New Roman">? </FONT>为了有个概念<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>我访问了中国日报的网上读者论坛<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>下述远早于尼泊尔政变前发表的评论都很具代表性<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>也颇具启发意义<FONT face="Times New Roman">:</FONT></FONT></P>
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<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l8 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>"An ironic headline: <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> fights against Maoists. A Nepalese official has just returned to <st1:country-region><st1:place>Nepal</st1:place></st1:country-region> after a week long visit to <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region>. During the visit, he secured promises from <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> to help <st1:country-region><st1:place>Nepal</st1:place></st1:country-region> fight against Maoist rebels. Does that seem kind of strange that <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> would help fight Maoists to anyone else, or is it just me?"</FONT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l8 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">“</FONT>一讽刺的头版头条<FONT face="Times New Roman">: </FONT>中国斗毛主义者<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>一尼政府官员于一周的中国行后返国<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>访问期间<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>他得到了中国将帮助尼打击毛主义叛军的承诺<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>有没有人觉得中国要帮忙打击毛主义者有点儿奇怪<FONT face="Times New Roman">? </FONT>不会只有我这么觉得吧<FONT face="Times New Roman">?”</FONT></FONT></LI></UL>
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<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>"Maoists? It's rather offending to a great man and Chinese people as a whole, for the foreign news agencies to call those elements fighting their governments abroad as "Maoists". Just because Mao Zedong had once lead a great and successful guerrilla war against the Kuomingtang Government in the late 1940s in <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region>? I think the words like guerrilla or anti-government fighters or extremists are more proper here."</FONT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">“</FONT>毛主义者<FONT face="Times New Roman">? </FONT>那些外国新闻社将那些反抗他们政府的分子称为毛主义者是对这个伟人以及全体中国人的极大侮辱<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>仅仅因为在中国的<FONT face="Times New Roman">40</FONT>年代毛泽东曾经领导了一场伟大而成功的反抗国民党政府的游击战吗<FONT face="Times New Roman">? </FONT>我想在这儿用游击队员或反政府战士或极端分子可能更合适<FONT face="Times New Roman">.”</FONT></FONT></LI></UL>
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<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>"Yes, "Maoists". I'm not sure what you mean by "foreign news agencies," since this is a story about <st1:country-region><st1:place>Nepal</st1:place></st1:country-region>. Xinhua is a foreign news agency as far as the Nepalese are concerned. The Nepalese news agencies call them Maoists. Why? Because they call THEMSELVES Maoists. Their official name is the "Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist)" or CPN(Maoist). There are actually two Communist parties in <st1:country-region><st1:place>Nepal</st1:place></st1:country-region>, the other is called the "Communist Party of Nepal (Unified Marxist Leninist)". I guess what I don't understand about your post, is why is it offensive to <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> and to Mao Zedong that these guys call themselves Maoists? They try to follow Mao Zedong thoughts, especially as it applies to building communism in an agricultural society. They study Mao's guerrilla war tactics. Why is that offensive? Why would words like "guerrilla or anti-government fighters or extremists" be better? Wasn't Mao Zedong all of those things? Well, actually, I don't know if he was "extremist" or not, but he was definitely the other two. I realize that asking "why" around here is like looking for a needle in a haystack, but I guess I'm eternally optimistic that someone will help me to better understand things."</FONT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">“</FONT>没错<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>毛主义者<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>我不清楚你讲的外国新闻社是什么意思<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>因为这是尼泊尔的事<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>对其而言新华社就是外国新闻社<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>尼泊尔的新闻机构称他们为毛主义者<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>为什么呢<FONT face="Times New Roman">? </FONT>因为他们是如此自称的<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>他们的正式名称是尼泊尔共产党<FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT>毛泽东主义<FONT face="Times New Roman">), </FONT>或毛尼共<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>在尼有两个共产党<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>另一个就是尼泊尔共产党<FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT>联合马列主义<FONT face="Times New Roman">). </FONT>我猜我对你的帖子不大理解的地方是<FONT face="Times New Roman">: </FONT>为什么这些人自称是毛主义者就是对中国和毛泽东的一种冒范呢<FONT face="Times New Roman">? </FONT>他们尽力追随毛泽东思想<FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT>特别是当该思想适用于一个农业社会中实现共产主义<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>他们学习毛的游击战术<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>为什么这是一种冒犯呢<FONT face="Times New Roman">? </FONT>为什么象<FONT face="Times New Roman">” </FONT>游击队员和反政府战士<FONT face="Times New Roman">”</FONT>这样的称呼会较好呢<FONT face="Times New Roman">? </FONT>毛泽东难道不是如上所称的那样吗<FONT face="Times New Roman">? </FONT>当然<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>确切地说<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>我并不知道他是否是个极端分子<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>但我可以肯定他是游击队员和反政府战士<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>虽然我意识到在这个论坛四处问<FONT face="Times New Roman">”</FONT>为什么<FONT face="Times New Roman">?”</FONT>无疑于大海捞针<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>但是我总是很乐观有人会帮我更好地理解这类事情<FONT face="Times New Roman">.”</FONT></FONT></LI></UL>
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<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l7 level1 lfo4; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">“</FONT>讽刺<FONT face="Times New Roman">? </FONT>真正的讽刺是中共当局现在是害怕人民而不是从人民中寻求支持了<FONT face="Times New Roman">.</FONT>一个经典的乔治<FONT face="Times New Roman">.</FONT>奥威尔笔下的<FONT face="Times New Roman">”</FONT>动物农庄<FONT face="Times New Roman">”</FONT>的翻版<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>没有独立的代表工人权利的工会<FONT face="Times New Roman">—</FONT>毛泽东会怎么想这种事呢<FONT face="Times New Roman">?”</FONT></FONT></LI></UL>
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<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l5 level1 lfo5; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">“</FONT>我喜欢毛<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>他是个有独创性的人<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>当然<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>他的运动导致了上千万的中国人的死亡<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>但那仍是一个独创性的成就<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>不象今天的这些技术官僚<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>我认为他是真正地为了信仰而奋斗的<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>我能想到至少一个人<FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT>如前国家主席<FONT face="Times New Roman">)</FONT>其目的是巩固和维护自己的权力<FONT face="Times New Roman">.”</FONT></FONT></LI></UL>
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<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo6; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">“</FONT>他们是自封的尼泊尔<FONT face="Times New Roman">”</FONT>解放者<FONT face="Times New Roman">”; </FONT>他们想推翻皇室及现任国会<FONT face="Times New Roman">-</FONT>他们都是极权主义者<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>他们只研究毛的战争思想而不是社会思想<FONT face="Times New Roman">.”</FONT></FONT></LI></UL>
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<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l6 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>"They are totally out of sync with reality - bad imitators of foreign idols whose actions they fail to understand. <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> has absolutely nothing to do with these terrorists."</FONT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l6 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">“</FONT>他们是完全脱离现实了<FONT face="Times New Roman">-</FONT>对外国偶像的行动不能真正理解的糟糕的模范者<FONT face="Times New Roman">.</FONT>中国和这些恐怖分子绝对没有关系<FONT face="Times New Roman">.”</FONT></FONT></LI></UL>
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<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo8; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>"They tried to bomb the U.S. Cultural Center in <st1:place>Kathmandu</st1:place>, and now <st1:country-region><st1:place>India</st1:place></st1:country-region> is also pledging to help <st1:country-region><st1:place>Nepal</st1:place></st1:country-region> fight against them. Interesting to see <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> and <st1:country-region><st1:place>India</st1:place></st1:country-region> on the same side on this!"</FONT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo8; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">“</FONT>他们试图炸掉美国驻加德满都的文化中心<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>并且现在印度也保证要帮尼政府反恐了<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>看到中国和印度站在同一战线是很有趣的<FONT face="Times New Roman">.”</FONT></FONT></LI></UL>
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<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo9; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>"Maoists? Most Chinese feel offended by the "Maoists" because of the following: 1. It is mistaking (misleading) many people in the world that <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> supports those rebels, which is not true. I guess the rebels do expect <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region>'s support, but be realistic, it will never happen; 2. Mao fought foreign invaders, and war lords who split <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> into pieces. Mao was the one who helped <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> get out of 100 years of wars into peace. These rebels push the country, <st1:country-region><st1:place>Nepal</st1:place></st1:country-region>, into war, and terrorism from peace. They are nothing even closer to Mao; 3. Mao fought for a better country and better life for the people, Mao never did anything like setting bombs in public to kill average people. Those who set bombs in public are terrrorists, not Maoists."</FONT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo9; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">“</FONT>毛主义者<FONT face="Times New Roman">? </FONT>大多数中国人对<FONT face="Times New Roman">”</FONT>毛主义者<FONT face="Times New Roman">”</FONT>的称谓感觉是一种冒犯<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>原因如下<FONT face="Times New Roman">:</FONT></FONT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo9; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">1. </FONT>这让世界上许多人以为中国支持那些叛军<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>当然事实并非如此<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>我猜那些叛军也期待中国的支持<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>但还是实际一点吧<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>这是不可能的<FONT face="Times New Roman">.</FONT></FONT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo9; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">2. </FONT>毛和那些外国侵略者及分裂中国的军阀战斗<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>他帮助中国由百年战争走向和平<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>而那些叛军将尼泊尔这样的国家由和平推向战争与恐怖主义<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>他们没有一星半点的毛泽东的影子<FONT face="Times New Roman">.</FONT></FONT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo9; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">3. </FONT>毛为了人民有一个更好的国家和更好的生活而战斗<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>毛从来没有做过在公共场合引爆炸弹杀害平民的事<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>那些在公共场合放炸弹的人是恐怖主义者<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>不是毛主义者<FONT face="Times New Roman">.”</FONT></FONT></LI></UL>
<P ><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>(待续)</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>普通中国人怎么看尼泊尔的毛主义者呢<FONT face="Times New Roman">? </FONT>为了有个概念<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>我访问了中国日报的网上读者论坛<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>下述远早于尼泊尔政变前发表的评论都很具代表性<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>也颇具启发意义<FONT face="Times New Roman">:</FONT></FONT></P>
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<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l8 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>"An ironic headline: <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> fights against Maoists. A Nepalese official has just returned to <st1:country-region><st1:place>Nepal</st1:place></st1:country-region> after a week long visit to <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region>. During the visit, he secured promises from <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> to help <st1:country-region><st1:place>Nepal</st1:place></st1:country-region> fight against Maoist rebels. Does that seem kind of strange that <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> would help fight Maoists to anyone else, or is it just me?"</FONT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l8 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">“</FONT>一讽刺的头版头条<FONT face="Times New Roman">: </FONT>中国斗毛主义者<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>一尼政府官员于一周的中国行后返国<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>访问期间<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>他得到了中国将帮助尼打击毛主义叛军的承诺<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>有没有人觉得中国要帮忙打击毛主义者有点儿奇怪<FONT face="Times New Roman">? </FONT>不会只有我这么觉得吧<FONT face="Times New Roman">?”</FONT></FONT></LI></UL>
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<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>"Maoists? It's rather offending to a great man and Chinese people as a whole, for the foreign news agencies to call those elements fighting their governments abroad as "Maoists". Just because Mao Zedong had once lead a great and successful guerrilla war against the Kuomingtang Government in the late 1940s in <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region>? I think the words like guerrilla or anti-government fighters or extremists are more proper here."</FONT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">“</FONT>毛主义者<FONT face="Times New Roman">? </FONT>那些外国新闻社将那些反抗他们政府的分子称为毛主义者是对这个伟人以及全体中国人的极大侮辱<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>仅仅因为在中国的<FONT face="Times New Roman">40</FONT>年代毛泽东曾经领导了一场伟大而成功的反抗国民党政府的游击战吗<FONT face="Times New Roman">? </FONT>我想在这儿用游击队员或反政府战士或极端分子可能更合适<FONT face="Times New Roman">.”</FONT></FONT></LI></UL>
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<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>"Yes, "Maoists". I'm not sure what you mean by "foreign news agencies," since this is a story about <st1:country-region><st1:place>Nepal</st1:place></st1:country-region>. Xinhua is a foreign news agency as far as the Nepalese are concerned. The Nepalese news agencies call them Maoists. Why? Because they call THEMSELVES Maoists. Their official name is the "Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist)" or CPN(Maoist). There are actually two Communist parties in <st1:country-region><st1:place>Nepal</st1:place></st1:country-region>, the other is called the "Communist Party of Nepal (Unified Marxist Leninist)". I guess what I don't understand about your post, is why is it offensive to <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> and to Mao Zedong that these guys call themselves Maoists? They try to follow Mao Zedong thoughts, especially as it applies to building communism in an agricultural society. They study Mao's guerrilla war tactics. Why is that offensive? Why would words like "guerrilla or anti-government fighters or extremists" be better? Wasn't Mao Zedong all of those things? Well, actually, I don't know if he was "extremist" or not, but he was definitely the other two. I realize that asking "why" around here is like looking for a needle in a haystack, but I guess I'm eternally optimistic that someone will help me to better understand things."</FONT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">“</FONT>没错<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>毛主义者<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>我不清楚你讲的外国新闻社是什么意思<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>因为这是尼泊尔的事<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>对其而言新华社就是外国新闻社<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>尼泊尔的新闻机构称他们为毛主义者<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>为什么呢<FONT face="Times New Roman">? </FONT>因为他们是如此自称的<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>他们的正式名称是尼泊尔共产党<FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT>毛泽东主义<FONT face="Times New Roman">), </FONT>或毛尼共<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>在尼有两个共产党<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>另一个就是尼泊尔共产党<FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT>联合马列主义<FONT face="Times New Roman">). </FONT>我猜我对你的帖子不大理解的地方是<FONT face="Times New Roman">: </FONT>为什么这些人自称是毛主义者就是对中国和毛泽东的一种冒范呢<FONT face="Times New Roman">? </FONT>他们尽力追随毛泽东思想<FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT>特别是当该思想适用于一个农业社会中实现共产主义<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>他们学习毛的游击战术<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>为什么这是一种冒犯呢<FONT face="Times New Roman">? </FONT>为什么象<FONT face="Times New Roman">” </FONT>游击队员和反政府战士<FONT face="Times New Roman">”</FONT>这样的称呼会较好呢<FONT face="Times New Roman">? </FONT>毛泽东难道不是如上所称的那样吗<FONT face="Times New Roman">? </FONT>当然<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>确切地说<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>我并不知道他是否是个极端分子<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>但我可以肯定他是游击队员和反政府战士<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>虽然我意识到在这个论坛四处问<FONT face="Times New Roman">”</FONT>为什么<FONT face="Times New Roman">?”</FONT>无疑于大海捞针<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>但是我总是很乐观有人会帮我更好地理解这类事情<FONT face="Times New Roman">.”</FONT></FONT></LI></UL>
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<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l7 level1 lfo4; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>"The irony?The true irony is that the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) authorities are now afraid of the people instead of finding their support from among them. Your classic orwellian "animal farm" case. No independent labor unions to represent workers' rights--what would Mao think about that? "</FONT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l7 level1 lfo4; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">“</FONT>讽刺<FONT face="Times New Roman">? </FONT>真正的讽刺是中共当局现在是害怕人民而不是从人民中寻求支持了<FONT face="Times New Roman">.</FONT>一个经典的乔治<FONT face="Times New Roman">.</FONT>奥威尔笔下的<FONT face="Times New Roman">”</FONT>动物农庄<FONT face="Times New Roman">”</FONT>的翻版<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>没有独立的代表工人权利的工会<FONT face="Times New Roman">—</FONT>毛泽东会怎么想这种事呢<FONT face="Times New Roman">?”</FONT></FONT></LI></UL>
<UL type=disc>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l5 level1 lfo5; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>'I like Mao. He's an original. Sure, his actions led to the deaths of tens of millions of Chinese, but it was an original effort. Unlike today's technocrats, I think he was truly striving for what he believed in. I can think of at least one guy whose only (former President) purpose is to consolidate and maintain his own power."</FONT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l5 level1 lfo5; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">“</FONT>我喜欢毛<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>他是个有独创性的人<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>当然<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>他的运动导致了上千万的中国人的死亡<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>但那仍是一个独创性的成就<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>不象今天的这些技术官僚<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>我认为他是真正地为了信仰而奋斗的<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>我能想到至少一个人<FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT>如前国家主席<FONT face="Times New Roman">)</FONT>其目的是巩固和维护自己的权力<FONT face="Times New Roman">.”</FONT></FONT></LI></UL>
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<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo6; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>"These guerrillas are self-proclaimed "liberators" of <st1:country-region><st1:place>Nepal</st1:place></st1:country-region>; they want to unmake the monarchy and the current parliament - they are totalitarians who only studied Mao's ideas on warfare but not on how to run a society. "</FONT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo6; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">“</FONT>他们是自封的尼泊尔<FONT face="Times New Roman">”</FONT>解放者<FONT face="Times New Roman">”; </FONT>他们想推翻皇室及现任国会<FONT face="Times New Roman">-</FONT>他们都是极权主义者<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>他们只研究毛的战争思想而不是社会思想<FONT face="Times New Roman">.”</FONT></FONT></LI></UL>
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<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l6 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>"They are totally out of sync with reality - bad imitators of foreign idols whose actions they fail to understand. <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> has absolutely nothing to do with these terrorists."</FONT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l6 level1 lfo7; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">“</FONT>他们是完全脱离现实了<FONT face="Times New Roman">-</FONT>对外国偶像的行动不能真正理解的糟糕的模范者<FONT face="Times New Roman">.</FONT>中国和这些恐怖分子绝对没有关系<FONT face="Times New Roman">.”</FONT></FONT></LI></UL>
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<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo8; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>"They tried to bomb the U.S. Cultural Center in <st1:place>Kathmandu</st1:place>, and now <st1:country-region><st1:place>India</st1:place></st1:country-region> is also pledging to help <st1:country-region><st1:place>Nepal</st1:place></st1:country-region> fight against them. Interesting to see <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> and <st1:country-region><st1:place>India</st1:place></st1:country-region> on the same side on this!"</FONT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo8; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">“</FONT>他们试图炸掉美国驻加德满都的文化中心<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>并且现在印度也保证要帮尼政府反恐了<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>看到中国和印度站在同一战线是很有趣的<FONT face="Times New Roman">.”</FONT></FONT></LI></UL>
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<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo9; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>"Maoists? Most Chinese feel offended by the "Maoists" because of the following: 1. It is mistaking (misleading) many people in the world that <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> supports those rebels, which is not true. I guess the rebels do expect <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region>'s support, but be realistic, it will never happen; 2. Mao fought foreign invaders, and war lords who split <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> into pieces. Mao was the one who helped <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region> get out of 100 years of wars into peace. These rebels push the country, <st1:country-region><st1:place>Nepal</st1:place></st1:country-region>, into war, and terrorism from peace. They are nothing even closer to Mao; 3. Mao fought for a better country and better life for the people, Mao never did anything like setting bombs in public to kill average people. Those who set bombs in public are terrrorists, not Maoists."</FONT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo9; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">“</FONT>毛主义者<FONT face="Times New Roman">? </FONT>大多数中国人对<FONT face="Times New Roman">”</FONT>毛主义者<FONT face="Times New Roman">”</FONT>的称谓感觉是一种冒犯<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>原因如下<FONT face="Times New Roman">:</FONT></FONT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo9; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">1. </FONT>这让世界上许多人以为中国支持那些叛军<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>当然事实并非如此<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>我猜那些叛军也期待中国的支持<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>但还是实际一点吧<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>这是不可能的<FONT face="Times New Roman">.</FONT></FONT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo9; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">2. </FONT>毛和那些外国侵略者及分裂中国的军阀战斗<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>他帮助中国由百年战争走向和平<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>而那些叛军将尼泊尔这样的国家由和平推向战争与恐怖主义<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>他们没有一星半点的毛泽东的影子<FONT face="Times New Roman">.</FONT></FONT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l4 level1 lfo9; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">3. </FONT>毛为了人民有一个更好的国家和更好的生活而战斗<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>毛从来没有做过在公共场合引爆炸弹杀害平民的事<FONT face="Times New Roman">. </FONT>那些在公共场合放炸弹的人是恐怖主义者<FONT face="Times New Roman">, </FONT>不是毛主义者<FONT face="Times New Roman">.”</FONT></FONT></LI></UL>
<P ><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>(待续)</FONT></P>
<P>老毛是个会做诗的农民而已，封建帝制意思极强，对国家的破坏恐怕大于贡献，他说的写得与实际做的相差数十光年，没什么价值。</P>
浪子腾云 发表于 2005-2-19 20:17 
别忘了，“三个代表”是毛思想的升华啊！！！
:sleepy:相当五毛
别忘了，“三个代表”是毛思想的升华啊！！！
:sleepy:相当五毛
何源 发表于 2005-2-19 23:49
实践是检验真理的唯一标准虽然改革给中国带来了堆积如山的社会问题但我还是不愿意回到文革时期
真的只是社会问题么,文各其间能对上面说no现在不行
实践是检验真理的唯一标准虽然改革给中国带来了堆积如山的社会问题但我还是不愿意回到文革时期
真的只是社会问题么,文各其间能对上面说no现在不行
商鞅的门徒 发表于 2005-2-19 21:32
他们是教条主义,本本主义者嘿嘿[em08][em08][em08][em08]
请拜读普拉昌达的21世纪抿住和巴塔拉伊的建立新型国家的问题
http://www.weiweikl.com/GYZC56.htm
他们是教条主义,本本主义者嘿嘿[em08][em08][em08][em08]
请拜读普拉昌达的21世纪抿住和巴塔拉伊的建立新型国家的问题
http://www.weiweikl.com/GYZC56.htm
有的话说出来只是糊弄人,张菊还说没有丝带,没几天丝带就出来了.
我记得超大有一个人一直反对当初网上传言的中朝反目\中国不支持尼毛的,他说呢都是放出来的忽悠风声.
现在看来其实那个人是对的.
据说印共毛尼共毛当初确实是林彪的支持者搞起来的所以一度与TG有龌龊，特别是80年代取消输出革命政策后，怨言增加，但是并未构成呢两个毛派反对TG的现实。而且这两个毛派从不蓄意攻击平民，一直有良好的声誉。
秘鲁的光辉道路则有些例外，因为其过火的暴力行为经常造成平民的损害，才被TG鄙视，但是据说其改弦更张2006年又起死回生了。哈哈哈
据说印共毛尼共毛当初确实是林彪的支持者搞起来的所以一度与TG有龌龊，特别是80年代取消输出革命政策后，怨言增加，但是并未构成呢两个毛派反对TG的现实。而且这两个毛派从不蓄意攻击平民，一直有良好的声誉。
秘鲁的光辉道路则有些例外，因为其过火的暴力行为经常造成平民的损害，才被TG鄙视，但是据说其改弦更张2006年又起死回生了。哈哈哈
墨西哥帕萨塔农民革命军也自称毛派，哥伦比亚革命武装游击队据说也是毛派，并被传言说是70年代有TG顾问指导。哇咔咔咔，美帝后院想怎么样呢？似乎很有些看头。