干法国人(翻译,原文如此)

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Screwing The French
by James Dunnigan
October 14, 2012
The U.S. has angered the French Air Force by reneging on a 2010 contract to upgrade the four French E-3F AWACS (Air Warning And Control System) aircraft. The agreed on price is $466 million, and now the U.S. wants to tack on another $5 million so the promised technology can be degraded. This is all because some American bureaucrat decided that some of the upgrade technology was too sensitive for the French and had to be taken out of the upgrade. The French are being asked to pay for this change. The French are not happy. The U.S. insists such changes are allowed for these deals but are having a hard time convincing the French.

The upgrade will replace ancient (mainframe based) computers with PC type networked hardware. This will enable regular upgrades with new processors and data storage equipment. New software will introduce a Windows type interface and joysticks. This is similar to an upgrade performed on American AWACS. French AWACS will remain able to closely cooperate with E-3 type AWACS used by other nations. The new American restrictions mainly involve new software.

E-3 AWACS development began in the late 1960s, and the first prototypes were flying in the late 1970s, and it went into regular use in 1982. Flying far enough inside friendly territory to avoid enemy anti-aircraft missiles, the AWACS radar has a range of between 200 km (for small aircraft or cruise missiles flying close to the ground) to 600 km (for large aircraft flying at high altitude). The AWACS tracks several hundred friendly and enemy aircraft at once. The AWACS acts as an airborne command center for aircraft. Friendly planes are kept out of each other's' way (there has not been a friendly air-to-air collusion since the 1991 Gulf war and the first major use of the E-3). Enemy aircraft are spotted, identified and friendly interceptors assigned to take care of the threat. One or more AWACS is used to control an air operation and each can stay up eleven hours at a time, or up to 22 hours with refueling and extra crew on board to man the equipment. The AWACS functions as a combination radar platform and command center.

During its first wartime workout, during the 1991 Gulf war, the AWACS proved its worth, often in more ways than anticipated. The use of over a hundred tankers to refuel combat aircraft would not have been possible without the AWACS being there to efficiently link tankers and aircraft needing fuel. Forming up the Wild Weasels (electronic warfare aircraft), and coordinating their use with the bombers they escorted, was much easier using an AWACS. Just keeping track of who was who and going where would not have been possible without the AWACS. The communications equipment on board an AWACS allows information gathered by one AWACS to be quickly shared with other AWACS in the vicinity, other combat aircraft in the area as well as units at sea or on the ground. This function, which was eventually made to work, gave generals and admirals the goal of trying to link together all the sensor and communications of every ship, aircraft, and ground unit in the area. But first, an AWACS for ground operations was needed.

The Gulf War experience was immediately put to use during the Afghanistan war and insured that the bombers, and the aerial tankers that kept everyone flying, were always where they were needed. This was later repeated in the 2003 Iraq war. This sort of thing doesn't make the news but without AWACS a lot of those newsworthy bombs would have never made it to their targets.


http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/Screwing-The-French-10-14-2012.asp

干法国人(翻译,原文如此)
由詹姆斯·邓尼根
2012年10月14日,

美国反悔了一个对四架法国E-3F AWACS(空中预警与控制系统)飞机升级的2010年合同,这导致法国空军对此愤怒.合同商定的价格是4.66亿美元,而现在美国要额外的增加500万美元,以支付美国降低合同早已承诺的技术.这一切都是因为美国的一些官僚认为,即将采取的一些技术升级过于敏感,然后决定从升级中取消这些技术.法国人被要求支付这技术变更,法国人对此不高兴.美国坚持这样的改变对这类型交易是允许的.但这理由很难说服法国人.

此次升级将以网络化PC硬件取代古老的(基于大型主机)的电脑.这将允许新的处理器和数据存储设备的定期升级.新软件将引进Windows类型的操作界面及控制手柄.这类似之前美国本国的预警机升级.法国预警机将能够继续与其他国家所使用的E-3型预警机密切合作.最新的美国限制主要涉及新的软件.
Screwing The French
by James Dunnigan
October 14, 2012
The U.S. has angered the French Air Force by reneging on a 2010 contract to upgrade the four French E-3F AWACS (Air Warning And Control System) aircraft. The agreed on price is $466 million, and now the U.S. wants to tack on another $5 million so the promised technology can be degraded. This is all because some American bureaucrat decided that some of the upgrade technology was too sensitive for the French and had to be taken out of the upgrade. The French are being asked to pay for this change. The French are not happy. The U.S. insists such changes are allowed for these deals but are having a hard time convincing the French.

The upgrade will replace ancient (mainframe based) computers with PC type networked hardware. This will enable regular upgrades with new processors and data storage equipment. New software will introduce a Windows type interface and joysticks. This is similar to an upgrade performed on American AWACS. French AWACS will remain able to closely cooperate with E-3 type AWACS used by other nations. The new American restrictions mainly involve new software.

E-3 AWACS development began in the late 1960s, and the first prototypes were flying in the late 1970s, and it went into regular use in 1982. Flying far enough inside friendly territory to avoid enemy anti-aircraft missiles, the AWACS radar has a range of between 200 km (for small aircraft or cruise missiles flying close to the ground) to 600 km (for large aircraft flying at high altitude). The AWACS tracks several hundred friendly and enemy aircraft at once. The AWACS acts as an airborne command center for aircraft. Friendly planes are kept out of each other's' way (there has not been a friendly air-to-air collusion since the 1991 Gulf war and the first major use of the E-3). Enemy aircraft are spotted, identified and friendly interceptors assigned to take care of the threat. One or more AWACS is used to control an air operation and each can stay up eleven hours at a time, or up to 22 hours with refueling and extra crew on board to man the equipment. The AWACS functions as a combination radar platform and command center.

During its first wartime workout, during the 1991 Gulf war, the AWACS proved its worth, often in more ways than anticipated. The use of over a hundred tankers to refuel combat aircraft would not have been possible without the AWACS being there to efficiently link tankers and aircraft needing fuel. Forming up the Wild Weasels (electronic warfare aircraft), and coordinating their use with the bombers they escorted, was much easier using an AWACS. Just keeping track of who was who and going where would not have been possible without the AWACS. The communications equipment on board an AWACS allows information gathered by one AWACS to be quickly shared with other AWACS in the vicinity, other combat aircraft in the area as well as units at sea or on the ground. This function, which was eventually made to work, gave generals and admirals the goal of trying to link together all the sensor and communications of every ship, aircraft, and ground unit in the area. But first, an AWACS for ground operations was needed.

The Gulf War experience was immediately put to use during the Afghanistan war and insured that the bombers, and the aerial tankers that kept everyone flying, were always where they were needed. This was later repeated in the 2003 Iraq war. This sort of thing doesn't make the news but without AWACS a lot of those newsworthy bombs would have never made it to their targets.


http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/Screwing-The-French-10-14-2012.asp

干法国人(翻译,原文如此)
由詹姆斯·邓尼根
2012年10月14日,

美国反悔了一个对四架法国E-3F AWACS(空中预警与控制系统)飞机升级的2010年合同,这导致法国空军对此愤怒.合同商定的价格是4.66亿美元,而现在美国要额外的增加500万美元,以支付美国降低合同早已承诺的技术.这一切都是因为美国的一些官僚认为,即将采取的一些技术升级过于敏感,然后决定从升级中取消这些技术.法国人被要求支付这技术变更,法国人对此不高兴.美国坚持这样的改变对这类型交易是允许的.但这理由很难说服法国人.

此次升级将以网络化PC硬件取代古老的(基于大型主机)的电脑.这将允许新的处理器和数据存储设备的定期升级.新软件将引进Windows类型的操作界面及控制手柄.这类似之前美国本国的预警机升级.法国预警机将能够继续与其他国家所使用的E-3型预警机密切合作.最新的美国限制主要涉及新的软件.
Boeing stops work on French E-3 Upgrade

The US Pentagon has told Boeing to stop work on the upgrade of four French Air Force E-3F AWACS (Airborne Warning and Control System) aircraft.  The order came after it was discovered technologies deemed too sensitive for export were discovered by the Department of Defense.  Not too surprisingly the cash-strapped French MOD is not happy about being asked to pay an extra $5 million on a $466 million contract, but does not really have an option. The increased cost comes from the ‘stop-order’ work which Boeing claims it is incurring.

If changes are accepted, to the contract announced in February 2010, the upgrade is expected to start in the first half of 2013, a year later than planned.  Under the contract, work should have been completed by early 2015.  France is the first export client for mid-life upgrade (MLU) to the Block 40/45 standard, also being installed in the USAF’s 32-strong AWACS fleet.

Earlier this summer, U.S. officials had called for a due diligence study to see if there was any technical risk on the export deal and asked Boeing to put a hold on the French upgrade, agreed under the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) contract signed in 2010.

The deal comprises $440 million and a $26 million reserve amount under the FMS regime with Boeing receiving $324 million of the total.  Modernization was due to start at Le Bourget airport in June. While Boeing is prime contractor for the MLU, Air France Industries has been sub contracted to carry out the depot level work.


http://www.tangentlink.com/news/2012/09/25/boeing-stops-work-on-french-e-3-upgrade.html
美国人真奇葩
我了个草,降低标准还要多收钱,这尼玛比毛子彪悍多了
因为我要减配,所以你要掏钱霸气啊
老子的给你降了级还要额外测试,收几个小钱就闹腾,你不付,找别人去啊!
还是美帝会捞钱啊,前一阵子牛牛在肥电的B和C之间摇摆好貌似也花了不少
没话说,赚钱就是那么简单啊·····
Screw应该是压榨,拧紧的意思吧……
从标准配置的系统中降低配置,当然要有工作量,这符合经济学的部分原理。
法国佬还是回过头来和TG交流一下如何,继续发扬优良传统嘛

dark_lotus 发表于 2012-10-18 11:00
Screw应该是压榨,拧紧的意思吧……

screw  (skr)
n.
1.
a. A cylindrical rod incised with one or more helical or advancing spiral threads, as a lead screw or worm screw.
b. The tapped collar or socket that receives this rod.
2. A metal pin with incised threads and a broad slotted head that can be driven as a fastener by turning with a screwdriver, especially:
a. A tapered and pointed wood screw.
b. A cylindrical and flat-tipped machine screw.
3. A device having a helical form, such as a corkscrew.
4. A propeller.
5. A twist or turn of or as if of a screw.
6. Slang
a. A prison guard.
b. The turnkey of a jail.
7. Vulgar Slang The act or an instance of having sexual intercourse.
8. Chiefly British Slang
a. Salary; wages.
b. A small paper packet, as of tobacco.
c. An old broken-down horse.
d. A stingy or crafty bargainer.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/screw

中国的'干'是不是有异曲同工的意思
dark_lotus 发表于 2012-10-18 11:00
Screw应该是压榨,拧紧的意思吧……

screw  (skr)
n.
1.
a. A cylindrical rod incised with one or more helical or advancing spiral threads, as a lead screw or worm screw.
b. The tapped collar or socket that receives this rod.
2. A metal pin with incised threads and a broad slotted head that can be driven as a fastener by turning with a screwdriver, especially:
a. A tapered and pointed wood screw.
b. A cylindrical and flat-tipped machine screw.
3. A device having a helical form, such as a corkscrew.
4. A propeller.
5. A twist or turn of or as if of a screw.
6. Slang
a. A prison guard.
b. The turnkey of a jail.
7. Vulgar Slang The act or an instance of having sexual intercourse.
8. Chiefly British Slang
a. Salary; wages.
b. A small paper packet, as of tobacco.
c. An old broken-down horse.
d. A stingy or crafty bargainer.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/screw

中国的'干'是不是有异曲同工的意思
把阵风,西北风提提价就啥都有了
这是美国向俄罗斯学习的么
真是奇葩啊,美国究竟是想干啥,是不是其实就是想涨价,黑法国人一把?
梅川内裤 发表于 2012-10-18 11:08
把阵风,西北风提提价就啥都有了
毛子和阿三承诺会为此次美国的行为负责。
lvchunyou 发表于 2012-10-18 11:01
从标准配置的系统中降低配置,当然要有工作量,这符合经济学的部分原理。
还不够强悍。不如全部降低到0,不交付,直接收更多的钱。以后全部出口为0的东西来收钱。
帮你越狱,自然要收费啊!
才500w   公鸡不会这么小气吧
四架E3  4.66亿?
还是说单价?
感觉 两种都不像啊~_~

法国人真想要 预警机 可以找中国啊(^V^)
hjfgcx 发表于 2012-10-18 11:28
还不够强悍。不如全部降低到0,不交付,直接收更多的钱。以后全部出口为0的东西来收钱。
一般来说,律师都是这样赚钱的。
跟打死凹凸一个德性,减配,加价提货。
这是在警告欧盟。
全世界充满爱呀
在哪都是垄断企业牛啊
这个和闹民主就要杀人甚至用婴儿做人体炸弹是一个道理。
87448 发表于 2012-10-18 11:05
法国佬还是回过头来和TG交流一下如何,继续发扬优良传统嘛
没错,M88-3图纸拿来,给你相控阵盘子,保准比E3好用!
没错,M88-3图纸拿来,给你相控阵盘子,保准比E3好用!
预警机方面的合作就是法国开放AB军用,中国用320改装反潜机,用330改装预警机,用340改装对潜通讯飞机和元首专机,法国分享中国的雷达技术。
MAZ543M 发表于 2012-10-18 12:16
预警机方面的合作就是法国开放AB军用,中国用320改装反潜机,用330改装预警机,用340改装对潜通讯飞机和元 ...
我觉得让斯奈克玛在TG开个子公司专业生产各种热端部件,是TG更加喜闻乐见的……
确实难以接受
大鱼吃小鱼,小鱼吃虾米
来来来,TG帮你升级,价格绝对比老美实惠
MD也够狠啊
hjfgcx 发表于 2012-10-18 11:28
还不够强悍。不如全部降低到0,不交付,直接收更多的钱。以后全部出口为0的东西来收钱。
赶紧印点0面值的票子……
到手后运这边来,给你升回去
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/screw

中国的'干'是不是有异曲同工的意思
screw 应该是翻成揉躏吧
揉躏别人是不道德的
公鸡出大飞机,兔子出雷达系统。老美一边凉快去
公鸡出大飞机,兔子出雷达系统。老美一边凉快去
爷爷的儿子 发表于 2012-10-18 11:39
四架E3  4.66亿?
还是说单价?
感觉 两种都不像啊~_~
升级而已,每架1亿多刀的升级费用也不贵,毕竟是高科技的东西。法国自己给印度升级幻影,貌似每架开价4千万刀。