菲专栏撰稿人称黄岩岛事件起初菲军舰已开火警告

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第一次发贴,请不要误伤{:soso__187047450382421961_3:}
转贴菲律宾媒体Inquirer global nation里专栏作者Rodel Rodis在20120509发表的文章
标题:Stand up to China or kneel and beg for mercy(站起来反抗中国还是跪下来祈求怜悯)
链接:globalnation.inquirer.net/36087/stand-up-to-china-or-kneel-and-beg-for-mercy
菲律宾询问日报是其国内主要英文报纸
文章很长注意红字部分

This Friday, May 11, Filipinos in the Philippines will rally in front of the China Consulate in Makati to protest China’s “creeping invasion” of the Philippines in the Scarborough Shoal. There will be similar simultaneous protest actions in front of all the consular offices of China in the United States and in Canada as well as in other cities around the world.
Will the combined total attendance of Filipinos in all these global protest rallies exceed the 80,000 Hong Kong residents who attended their rally on August 28, 2010 to protest the Philippine government for its handling of the August 21, 2010 bus siege in Manila that ended in the shooting deaths of eight Hong Kong residents?
According to The New York Times (“Anger in Hong Kong over Manila Siege”), it was the largest protest march against events overseas in China’s history. The anti-Philippines rally even united both the pro-Beijing and the pro-democracy political parties – “a rare occasion for them to unite,” wrote BBC’s Annemarie Evans in Hong Kong.
“Wearing black and white, with yellow ribbons tied around their upper arms in remembrance of the dead,” the New York Times reported,  “the crowd gathered in sweltering heat in Victoria Park and then marched peacefully more than a mile to the downtown business district before dispersing quietly.”
Times reporter Keith Bradsher noted that “many marchers seemed to be fairly apolitical, soft-spoken members of the middle class who said they had never attended a demonstration before but were offended that the Philippine government had failed to protect the Hong Kong residents aboard the bus.”
Hong Kong newspapers reflected the sentiment of its Chinese residents who pinned responsibility for the massacre on the Philippine government more than on the deranged killer, Rolando Mendoza.
As a survivor of the massacre told the Hong Kong press: “The gunman did not want to kill us. He only shot us after the negotiations failed,” she said, sobbing.
To punish the Philippines for the killing of their residents, the Hong Kong government raised a “black” travel alert for the Philippines, advising HK residents not to travel to Manila. All HK tour groups in the Philippines were also urged to return home immediately.
These punitive measures were undertaken despite the fact that President Benigno S. Aquino III conveyed his apologies to the families of the victims and the Filipino people’s sorrow to the people of Hong Kong. The Philippine Congress launched a full scale public investigation of the Luneta incident and Philippine National Police (PNP) officials even acknowledged their mistakes in botching the rescue of the HK tourists.
Five years ago  - almost to the day of Mendoza’s murderous rampage - on August 19, 2005, a Filipino family of five – Emmanuel and Vivian Madrigal, and their three daughters – rode a tourist bus to Tienanmen Square in the capital of Beijing. When they stepped down from their bus to do some sightseeing, they were attacked by Wang Gongzuo, a Chinese farmer from Jiangsu province who, newspaper reports later noted, “wanted to affect society using extreme actions.”
Wang attacked Madrigal with a farmer’s scythe, hacking him across the torso killing him instantly. Wang then slashed Madrigal’s wife, Vivian, and daughter, Regina. Both later died from their wounds.
Unlike what happened in Hongkong, there were no demonstrations against China in the Philippines in 2005 to protest the Madrigal murders. There were no calls to boycott travel to China or China-made goods.
Admittedly, the liability of the Philippine police authorities for the Luneta Massacre was greater - especially because of its botched rescue attempt - than that of the police authorities in Beijing for the Tienanmen Massacre of the Madrigal family.
But there were also no protests because the government and the Filipino people understood that the homicidal acts of Wang Gongzuo were his own personal actions and were not reflective of China’s policy towards the Philippines  or the Filipino people.
It would be an entirely different matter if the Chinese government had committed criminal acts against the Philippines or against Filipinos. If that ever happened, then there would surely be massive demonstrations and rallies against China and calls by Filipinos to boycott China-made goods.
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以上都是废话,说了下香港人质事件后香港人团结一致制抵菲律宾,但菲律宾人在中国发生意外后菲律宾人却无动于衷
重点在下面红字部分

Or would it?
China committed a criminal act against the Philippines when it invaded Philippine territory on April 8, 2012 when eight Chinese fishing vessels set anchor in Scarborough Shoal – which is just 124 nautical miles from Masinloc, Zambales – and engaged in illegal fishing in Philippine waters.  After their presence was discovcered, a Philippine Navy frigate boarded the trespassing vessels and discovered large amounts of illegally collected corals, giant clams, and live sharks.
China immediately dispatched government vessels to rescue the Chinese fishermen. When the Philippine Navy frigate fired a warning shot to halt the escape of the Chinese fisherman, the cannon malfunctioned and fired a dud allowing the Chinese vessels to escape with their illegal cargo. When the frigate attempted to pursue, they were blocked by China’s navy ships
Since that time, China’s naval vessels have remained  in the Scarborough Shoal asserting ownership of what they refer to as “Huangyan Island” based on a map drafted in the 12th century. Since the standoff with the Philippines began, the number of China’s naval vessels in the Shoal has increased from 4 to  8 to 14 and now 30, as of the latest count, compared to just 2 naval vessels on the Philippine side.
On May 7, 2012, China’s Vice Foreign Minister Fu Ying summoned the Philippine consular officer in Beijing to demand that the Philippines “withdraw its vessels in the sea area around Huangyan Island, and to never again impede the operations of Chinese fishing vessels or Chinese government vessels performing their duties in accordance with Chinese law,” Fu said.
Once before, in 1994, China occupied the Philippines’ Panganiban Reef which is a shoal only 87 nautical miles from Palawan asserting that it was part of China.  After some sabre-rattling by China, the Philippines backed down and China thereafter erected a four-story military garrison on what is called the Mischief Reef.
There were no demonstrations against China in 1994 for its invasion and annexation of Philippine territory. This time around, there will be global protests against China on May 11.
Will Filipinos attend in large numbers on May 11 to defend Philippine sovereignty as they promise very time they sing the national anthem and pledge “sa manlulupig, di ka pasisiil” (“Ne’er shall invaders trample thy sacred shore”)?
Or will China’s extremely low assessment of the Philippines and the Filipino people be proven accurate once again?
We really only have two choices: stand up to China or knee and beg for mercy. Which will it be?
(For information on the protest actions against China on May 11, please log on to USPGG.org. Send comments to Rodel50@gmail.com or mail them to the Law Offices of Rodel Rodis at 2429 Ocean Avenue, San Francisco, CA 94127 or call 415334.7800).
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红字部分是说事件起初当中国海监船赶来营救渔民时,菲律宾海军护卫舰开火一次以警告并阻止渔民离开,只是因为大炮出了故障而发射了一枚哑炮,从而使得渔船逃脱。菲军舰想继续追击,但被中国海监船挡住。

如果此事属实,那菲方已经先开火了,虽然没造成伤亡,但中国反击肯定是有理有据有节了吧
另,不知新人可否添加链接?

第一次发贴,请不要误伤{:soso__187047450382421961_3:}
转贴菲律宾媒体Inquirer global nation里专栏作者Rodel Rodis在20120509发表的文章
标题:Stand up to China or kneel and beg for mercy(站起来反抗中国还是跪下来祈求怜悯)
链接:globalnation.inquirer.net/36087/stand-up-to-china-or-kneel-and-beg-for-mercy
菲律宾询问日报是其国内主要英文报纸
文章很长注意红字部分

This Friday, May 11, Filipinos in the Philippines will rally in front of the China Consulate in Makati to protest China’s “creeping invasion” of the Philippines in the Scarborough Shoal. There will be similar simultaneous protest actions in front of all the consular offices of China in the United States and in Canada as well as in other cities around the world.
Will the combined total attendance of Filipinos in all these global protest rallies exceed the 80,000 Hong Kong residents who attended their rally on August 28, 2010 to protest the Philippine government for its handling of the August 21, 2010 bus siege in Manila that ended in the shooting deaths of eight Hong Kong residents?
According to The New York Times (“Anger in Hong Kong over Manila Siege”), it was the largest protest march against events overseas in China’s history. The anti-Philippines rally even united both the pro-Beijing and the pro-democracy political parties – “a rare occasion for them to unite,” wrote BBC’s Annemarie Evans in Hong Kong.
“Wearing black and white, with yellow ribbons tied around their upper arms in remembrance of the dead,” the New York Times reported,  “the crowd gathered in sweltering heat in Victoria Park and then marched peacefully more than a mile to the downtown business district before dispersing quietly.”
Times reporter Keith Bradsher noted that “many marchers seemed to be fairly apolitical, soft-spoken members of the middle class who said they had never attended a demonstration before but were offended that the Philippine government had failed to protect the Hong Kong residents aboard the bus.”
Hong Kong newspapers reflected the sentiment of its Chinese residents who pinned responsibility for the massacre on the Philippine government more than on the deranged killer, Rolando Mendoza.
As a survivor of the massacre told the Hong Kong press: “The gunman did not want to kill us. He only shot us after the negotiations failed,” she said, sobbing.
To punish the Philippines for the killing of their residents, the Hong Kong government raised a “black” travel alert for the Philippines, advising HK residents not to travel to Manila. All HK tour groups in the Philippines were also urged to return home immediately.
These punitive measures were undertaken despite the fact that President Benigno S. Aquino III conveyed his apologies to the families of the victims and the Filipino people’s sorrow to the people of Hong Kong. The Philippine Congress launched a full scale public investigation of the Luneta incident and Philippine National Police (PNP) officials even acknowledged their mistakes in botching the rescue of the HK tourists.
Five years ago  - almost to the day of Mendoza’s murderous rampage - on August 19, 2005, a Filipino family of five – Emmanuel and Vivian Madrigal, and their three daughters – rode a tourist bus to Tienanmen Square in the capital of Beijing. When they stepped down from their bus to do some sightseeing, they were attacked by Wang Gongzuo, a Chinese farmer from Jiangsu province who, newspaper reports later noted, “wanted to affect society using extreme actions.”
Wang attacked Madrigal with a farmer’s scythe, hacking him across the torso killing him instantly. Wang then slashed Madrigal’s wife, Vivian, and daughter, Regina. Both later died from their wounds.
Unlike what happened in Hongkong, there were no demonstrations against China in the Philippines in 2005 to protest the Madrigal murders. There were no calls to boycott travel to China or China-made goods.
Admittedly, the liability of the Philippine police authorities for the Luneta Massacre was greater - especially because of its botched rescue attempt - than that of the police authorities in Beijing for the Tienanmen Massacre of the Madrigal family.
But there were also no protests because the government and the Filipino people understood that the homicidal acts of Wang Gongzuo were his own personal actions and were not reflective of China’s policy towards the Philippines  or the Filipino people.
It would be an entirely different matter if the Chinese government had committed criminal acts against the Philippines or against Filipinos. If that ever happened, then there would surely be massive demonstrations and rallies against China and calls by Filipinos to boycott China-made goods.
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以上都是废话,说了下香港人质事件后香港人团结一致制抵菲律宾,但菲律宾人在中国发生意外后菲律宾人却无动于衷
重点在下面红字部分

Or would it?
China committed a criminal act against the Philippines when it invaded Philippine territory on April 8, 2012 when eight Chinese fishing vessels set anchor in Scarborough Shoal – which is just 124 nautical miles from Masinloc, Zambales – and engaged in illegal fishing in Philippine waters.  After their presence was discovcered, a Philippine Navy frigate boarded the trespassing vessels and discovered large amounts of illegally collected corals, giant clams, and live sharks.
China immediately dispatched government vessels to rescue the Chinese fishermen. When the Philippine Navy frigate fired a warning shot to halt the escape of the Chinese fisherman, the cannon malfunctioned and fired a dud allowing the Chinese vessels to escape with their illegal cargo. When the frigate attempted to pursue, they were blocked by China’s navy ships
Since that time, China’s naval vessels have remained  in the Scarborough Shoal asserting ownership of what they refer to as “Huangyan Island” based on a map drafted in the 12th century. Since the standoff with the Philippines began, the number of China’s naval vessels in the Shoal has increased from 4 to  8 to 14 and now 30, as of the latest count, compared to just 2 naval vessels on the Philippine side.
On May 7, 2012, China’s Vice Foreign Minister Fu Ying summoned the Philippine consular officer in Beijing to demand that the Philippines “withdraw its vessels in the sea area around Huangyan Island, and to never again impede the operations of Chinese fishing vessels or Chinese government vessels performing their duties in accordance with Chinese law,” Fu said.
Once before, in 1994, China occupied the Philippines’ Panganiban Reef which is a shoal only 87 nautical miles from Palawan asserting that it was part of China.  After some sabre-rattling by China, the Philippines backed down and China thereafter erected a four-story military garrison on what is called the Mischief Reef.
There were no demonstrations against China in 1994 for its invasion and annexation of Philippine territory. This time around, there will be global protests against China on May 11.
Will Filipinos attend in large numbers on May 11 to defend Philippine sovereignty as they promise very time they sing the national anthem and pledge “sa manlulupig, di ka pasisiil” (“Ne’er shall invaders trample thy sacred shore”)?
Or will China’s extremely low assessment of the Philippines and the Filipino people be proven accurate once again?
We really only have two choices: stand up to China or knee and beg for mercy. Which will it be?
(For information on the protest actions against China on May 11, please log on to USPGG.org. Send comments to Rodel50@gmail.com or mail them to the Law Offices of Rodel Rodis at 2429 Ocean Avenue, San Francisco, CA 94127 or call 415334.7800).
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红字部分是说事件起初当中国海监船赶来营救渔民时,菲律宾海军护卫舰开火一次以警告并阻止渔民离开,只是因为大炮出了故障而发射了一枚哑炮,从而使得渔船逃脱。菲军舰想继续追击,但被中国海监船挡住。

如果此事属实,那菲方已经先开火了,虽然没造成伤亡,但中国反击肯定是有理有据有节了吧
另,不知新人可否添加链接?
赶紧加链接,不然要悲剧
这不会是我们的人写的吧  制造借口??
非主流媒体  
到底什么情况?战争开始时,死的第一个就是真相。
NND!没在狒狒那个所谓滴军队里培养几个有觉悟知道啥时候向土鳖打一枪滴余则成?
作者肯定是菲律宾人,文章最后部分还说关于明天菲人全球大游行信息可以发邮件或打电话咨询呢
从其它方面未经证实的消息,菲律宾确实开过火。不过我们没有抓住这一时机进行有效反击!
我把眼睛都瞪绿了也没找到红字在哪。。。
据说美国给它那个海巡舰没有火炮!
我对武器不熟,不清楚菲军舰配置到底如何
76奥拓炮。一般不会卡壳是速射炮。保养差就 可能了
vitasmiller 发表于 2012-5-10 21:21
我对武器不熟,不清楚菲军舰配置到底如何
反正没有导弹。
76毫米速射炮,不过关键不在于谁开了第一枪。有些人还是没搞清楚,重要的是现在局面主动权是控制在谁的手里,想动用武力的时候随时可以找到对方跨国红线的证据。问题是我实在找不出现在军方动用武力的理由,在旁边停着已经足够了。
从其它方面未经证实的消息,菲律宾确实开过火。不过我们没有抓住这一时机进行有效反击!
海监船没武器吧?


好,不打自招。明天赶紧上头条。

菲佣打响第一炮,而且是哑弹,兔子这呢帽是多么无敌的rp,就是写剧本也想不出这么戏剧性的情节啊。这么好的运气再不珍惜,老天爷都会生气地。{:soso_e105:}

好,不打自招。明天赶紧上头条。

菲佣打响第一炮,而且是哑弹,兔子这呢帽是多么无敌的rp,就是写剧本也想不出这么戏剧性的情节啊。这么好的运气再不珍惜,老天爷都会生气地。{:soso_e105:}
清欢 发表于 2012-5-10 21:13
NND!没在狒狒那个所谓滴军队里培养几个有觉悟知道啥时候向土鳖打一枪滴余则成?
明天yx会有的
时机已经错过,总不能现在才对1个月前的事情做出反应吧
从此事当初国内媒体没报导表明中国起初应该不想把事情闹大的,结果现在搞成这样,箭在弦上不得不发
反而疑惑中国到底是不是钓鱼执法啊,鱼都上钩了你确把它放了
要调戏一下的
搜集证据啊,编造点也行啊,罗列下,然后开片,防住MD
快看 第一枪已经开了 兄逮们 拿板砖招呼他们啊

虽然卡壳了但是你一样开枪了....第一枪不是我们开的哈
they were blocked by China’s navy ships


哪里出来的中国海军舰船?菲媒混淆是非的能力很强啊。

狒狒的舰炮卡壳?杯具啊
即便是真的,一个月过去了,黄花菜都凉了。只能寄希望于废驴殡这只狒狒再次犯傻发狂了
zzzbki 发表于 2012-5-10 21:19
据说美国给它那个海巡舰没有火炮!
仔细看
这个绝对扯淡,渔民的访谈里从来没有炮响的说法,如果需要警告射击,机枪或者20炮足以,根本不需要动用76炮,那个作者估计是MK800之类的大仙。
当时用武力时机不成熟,要说开枪,菲佣几年前已经开过了。现在是温水煮青蛙,菲佣开不开枪,都要逐步交出几个岛屿。我们应该通过敲打美国的小弟,牵制美国在中东给我们造成的能源困局……
vitasmiller 发表于 2012-5-10 21:42
从此事当初国内媒体没报导表明中国起初应该不想把事情闹大的,结果现在搞成这样,箭在弦上不得不发
反而疑 ...
搞不搞大
是中宣部说的:D
这位同志辛苦了……居然翻出个什么菲律宾游客一家五口的事情还要跟他们的废柴事情相提并论。

但是我们只注意到了红字部分……
大清炮队啊,还带哑炮的,响一下来,兔子做梦都会笑醒的
现在开火就好了,我们就可以打
to fix some problems with the 76mm gun).

so。。。。实际上是开了炮没人知道?这可就郁闷了。。。


话说那张对峙图是不是有误?菲哪里来的3艘军舰和反潜机?那不是已经证实不过是个假新闻了吗?
反正打不起来
che 发表于 2012-5-21 19:31
这是真的!76炮在开炮时出了故障,正在维修。

http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/phillip/articles/20120 ...
不给力的火炮啊,你响一下就那么难吗?小兔子们盼挨炮盼的眼睛都红了
现在这个消息又爆出来了,看来国内是不想让黄岩岛事件平息了
我觉得菲菲家的报纸不停的提这个,也许就是洗地的举动,为了平息国内小猴子们怒气的,表示实在力不从心,被中国干了,没办法。
对于前些日子大谈,我不打第一枪,也不会让你打第一枪的
cawp 发表于 2012-5-10 22:16
当时用武力时机不成熟,要说开枪,菲佣几年前已经开过了。现在是温水煮青蛙,菲佣开不开枪,都要逐步交出几 ...
黄岩岛问题拖得时间越长,对我越不利。君不见,日本和印度等国已经跃跃欲试要借黄岩岛问题进入南海吗?