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发到畅谈没人回。。

刚在老美军坛里看到的这则
一个访谈节目。。。。。《60分钟》



自己渣水平勉强看的懂就不翻译了。。。想听听各位大大怎么说

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Two military pilots won't fly the F-22 Raptor, the Air Force's most sophisticated fighter plane, because they say a lack of oxygen during flight is causing disorientation and worse. Lesley Stahl reports

Military officers rarely speak out against their services, but in our lead story you'll hear from two elite pilots who question the safety of Air Force's most sophisticated, stealthy, and expensive fighter jet, the F-22 Raptor. Maj. Jeremy Gordon and Capt. Joshua Wilson have chosen to stop flying the F-22 because they say during some flights they and other pilots have experienced oxygen deprivation, disorientation, and worse. They are concerned about their safety in the air, as well as the long-term health consequences. The Air Force says it is doing all it can to investigate and solve the problem, and are keeping the jets in the air with careful supervision of the pilots.


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Jeremy Gordon: Amongst F-22 pilots, there's a term called the "raptor cough," that is-- Lesley Stahl: The "raptor cough"     
Jeremy Gordon: In a room full of F-22 pilots, the vast majority will be coughing a lot of the times. Other things-- laying down for bed at night after flying and getting just the spinning room feeling, dizziness, tumbling, vertigo kind of stuff.
Lesley Stahl: I had heard that other pilots, because of their fears of crashing from their own vertigo, whatever, that they're taking out additional life insurance policies.
Josh Wilson: They are. Absolutely. We are waiting for something to happen. A

nd if it happens, nobody's going to be surprised. I think it's a matter of time.


After a rash of similar hypoxia incidents, the Air Force took the radical step of grounding the entire F-22 fleet in May of 2011. The Pentagon revealed there had been 14 of these events in the previous three years, a rate described by its own scientific advisory board as "unusually high...and unacceptable."

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Lesley Stahl: In your opinion, is the F-22 safe to fly?

Jeremy Gordon: I'm not comfortable answering that question directly. I am not comfortable flying in the F-22 right now.

Josh Wilson: I am currently not flying the aircraft. In a rare show of defiance for Air Force officers, both men informed their command in January they were going to stop flying.

Lesley Stahl: The Air Force says there is an inherent risk in flying. Period. Any of these planes.
Josh Wilson: Yes.
Lesley Stahl: Kind of sounds like, "Man up, guys. There's a risk. Come on."
Jeremy Gordon: Absolutely there's an inherent level of risk, just like there's an inherent level of risk of driving.

Lesley Stahl: You mean if there's a mechanical risk?

Jeremy Gordon: There's a mechanical risk or even an enemy threat where I'm trained to deal with that threat. But this is something strapped to my face under which I have no control what's coming through that tube which means there may be a point when I don't have control over myself when I'm flying.

To make matters worse, some of the pilots began coughing up black sputum. Air Force doctors cut into oxygen hoses, found - as this doctor's photo shows - black residue. And determined that the new filters that were supposed to be protecting pilots were shedding charcoal and pilots were breathing it in.   

Lesley Stahl: Have the doctors spoken out? Have the doctors come forward and said, "Our pilots are having serious issues here. We have to find the cause and until we do these pilots shouldn't be up there"?

Josh Wilson: Absolutely.

Jeremy Gordon: Yes.

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上次记得有说解决了,看来还没有,并且挺严重的。。。


发到畅谈没人回。。

刚在老美军坛里看到的这则
一个访谈节目。。。。。《60分钟》



自己渣水平勉强看的懂就不翻译了。。。想听听各位大大怎么说

(请自行添加www ).cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57427432/is-the-air-forces-f-22-fighter-jet-making-pilots-sick/?tag=contentMain;contentBody   

Watch the Segment »

Two military pilots won't fly the F-22 Raptor, the Air Force's most sophisticated fighter plane, because they say a lack of oxygen during flight is causing disorientation and worse. Lesley Stahl reports

Military officers rarely speak out against their services, but in our lead story you'll hear from two elite pilots who question the safety of Air Force's most sophisticated, stealthy, and expensive fighter jet, the F-22 Raptor. Maj. Jeremy Gordon and Capt. Joshua Wilson have chosen to stop flying the F-22 because they say during some flights they and other pilots have experienced oxygen deprivation, disorientation, and worse. They are concerned about their safety in the air, as well as the long-term health consequences. The Air Force says it is doing all it can to investigate and solve the problem, and are keeping the jets in the air with careful supervision of the pilots.


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Jeremy Gordon: Amongst F-22 pilots, there's a term called the "raptor cough," that is-- Lesley Stahl: The "raptor cough"     
Jeremy Gordon: In a room full of F-22 pilots, the vast majority will be coughing a lot of the times. Other things-- laying down for bed at night after flying and getting just the spinning room feeling, dizziness, tumbling, vertigo kind of stuff.
Lesley Stahl: I had heard that other pilots, because of their fears of crashing from their own vertigo, whatever, that they're taking out additional life insurance policies.
Josh Wilson: They are. Absolutely. We are waiting for something to happen. A

nd if it happens, nobody's going to be surprised. I think it's a matter of time.


After a rash of similar hypoxia incidents, the Air Force took the radical step of grounding the entire F-22 fleet in May of 2011. The Pentagon revealed there had been 14 of these events in the previous three years, a rate described by its own scientific advisory board as "unusually high...and unacceptable."

.....................


Lesley Stahl: In your opinion, is the F-22 safe to fly?

Jeremy Gordon: I'm not comfortable answering that question directly. I am not comfortable flying in the F-22 right now.

Josh Wilson: I am currently not flying the aircraft. In a rare show of defiance for Air Force officers, both men informed their command in January they were going to stop flying.

Lesley Stahl: The Air Force says there is an inherent risk in flying. Period. Any of these planes.
Josh Wilson: Yes.
Lesley Stahl: Kind of sounds like, "Man up, guys. There's a risk. Come on."
Jeremy Gordon: Absolutely there's an inherent level of risk, just like there's an inherent level of risk of driving.

Lesley Stahl: You mean if there's a mechanical risk?

Jeremy Gordon: There's a mechanical risk or even an enemy threat where I'm trained to deal with that threat. But this is something strapped to my face under which I have no control what's coming through that tube which means there may be a point when I don't have control over myself when I'm flying.

To make matters worse, some of the pilots began coughing up black sputum. Air Force doctors cut into oxygen hoses, found - as this doctor's photo shows - black residue. And determined that the new filters that were supposed to be protecting pilots were shedding charcoal and pilots were breathing it in.   

Lesley Stahl: Have the doctors spoken out? Have the doctors come forward and said, "Our pilots are having serious issues here. We have to find the cause and until we do these pilots shouldn't be up there"?

Josh Wilson: Absolutely.

Jeremy Gordon: Yes.

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上次记得有说解决了,看来还没有,并且挺严重的。。。
http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-1376328-1-1.html


如果黑色残留那段是真的话。。。。。
以MD的水平怎么可能。。。难以置信

如果黑色残留那段是真的话。。。。。
以MD的水平怎么可能。。。难以置信
militer 发表于 2012-5-7 14:11
如果黑色残留那段是真的话。。。。。
以MD的水平怎么可能。。。难以置信
用活性炭来过滤空气还没有无纺布PP棉之类的防止碳粉脱落真是让人无语。
气体过滤应该不是防毒面具的那种,再说现在防毒面具基本可以实现金属沉积网,战机上的更用不到活性炭吧?
应该是普通的pall或者entegris的气体过滤器。
问题应该不是在过滤器上面,这很难说。
笑脸男人 发表于 2012-5-7 14:02
http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-1376328-1-1.html
美国空军一名基地指挥官4月30日说,一些F-22型“猛禽”式战机的飞行员要求转往其他岗位,原因是驾驶
   
     霍斯蒂奇告诉媒体记者,“极少数”F-22飞行员因为缺氧不愿继续飞行。

霍斯蒂奇没有公布要求转岗的飞行员具体人数,称将依据每名飞行员的个人情况作出决定。“显然,这是敏感话题……我们将尽力找到解决方案。”


militer 发表于 2012-5-7 14:11
如果黑色残留那段是真的话。。。。。
以MD的水平怎么可能。。。难以置信
F22的OBOGS记得和F/A18,F16,F15E,A10,F35是一个型号

出过问题的就是F/A-18和F22.。记得上次《兵器》给出的数据02年~09年F/A18共发生了了64起供氧故障 死了2个

但关键是F22这次表示有人不想再飞22了,而且黑色残留物的说法。。。。似乎比F/A18严重的多(F/A18我没查也没关注过。就知道有这事。。。)


。。。老美有评论就说60分钟节目不拿18拿22说事因为22是个好靶子。。。。。。。。。

militer 发表于 2012-5-7 14:19
气体过滤应该不是防毒面具的那种,再说现在防毒面具基本可以实现金属沉积网,战机上的更用不到活性炭吧?
...







115提取码:behxyzgt

这篇关于OBOGS的文反正我是啃不动了。。看看对你有没有帮助 PDF格式
militer 发表于 2012-5-7 14:19
气体过滤应该不是防毒面具的那种,再说现在防毒面具基本可以实现金属沉积网,战机上的更用不到活性炭吧?
...







115提取码:behxyzgt

这篇关于OBOGS的文反正我是啃不动了。。看看对你有没有帮助 PDF格式
收到,下来看看,谢谢。
some of the pilots began coughing up black sputum,咳黑痰
clm221 发表于 2012-5-7 17:03
some of the pilots began coughing up black sputum,咳黑痰
吸了活性炭进去吧。。。崩落了