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浏览三哥军武论坛发现的，这贴不是一般的火啊。

三哥们发自内心的咆哮。

素质真。。。。LCA MIG21.。。

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1楼：  RPK （来自印度）上校：

PAF JF-17 Thunder Crashed in Attock
PAF JF-17 Thunder Crashed in Attock | Columnspk.com | English Newspaper Columns, News, Top Stories, World News, Politics, Middle East


JF-17 Thunder aircraft of Pakistan Air Force has crashed today (14th, Nov 2011) near Mansher Camp. Sources have confirmed the pilot safely ejected. This crash is first for the JF-17 thunder. Its been a year now that JF-17 has been inducted and serving in Pakistan Air Force.

A.V., maomao, utubekhiladi and 1 others like this.


巴空军发财一号在爱托克坠毁

（新闻链接）


巴基斯坦空军JF-17雷电战机今天在Masher营地坠毁（2011年11月14号）， 有消息指出飞行员顺利弹射。 雷电战机已服役巴基斯坦空军一年，这是雷电战机首次坠毁。

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2楼：A.V. (来自苏俄）将军：



Sorry to hear this , a new platform does have some issues i am sure this will be looked into and fixed.

Having said that i am still blaming PAF and the pakistani establishment to rush the production line for JF 17 , they might mock us for our delays but at the end a lot of flight tests is better than induction issues later on.


对此非常抱歉，一个新的平台总有一些问题，但是我相信这些问题会被改善的。

像我之前说的一样，我依然觉得这是巴基斯坦空军匆忙加速建设发财生产线的问题。他们（巴空军）嘲笑我们战机的延迟，但是我觉得试飞还是比后期遇到问题强。（因该是阿三）。




3楼：Bangalore （无地区显示）中尉：


^^ ON the contrary, actually I am not sorry to hear this at all. If the pilot had died I would have been sorry at the loss of life. But I am not sorry at the loss of the aircraft. Good riddance to the Thunder-Bandar.

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反而言之，我觉得一旦都不遗憾。假如飞行员死了的话我表示悼念。但是战机坠毁的话，成功灭掉（雷电）猴。

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4楼： SR 71 Blackbird （来自印度）中尉：

The good news is the pilot has ejected & is safe.Surely this crash will put some water on the ego of Pakistanis.

A Pakistani news channel reporting that the pilot is dead.
RIP.
Last edited by SR 71 Blackbird; 14-11-11 at 01:01 PM.
A.V. likes this.


好消息是飞行员成功弹射。 肯定的事，这件追击事故会给巴基斯坦人的自豪主义灭灭火。

一个巴基斯坦新闻台播报飞行员死了。

安息

1个人喜欢




5楼：  pintu (来自印度） 上尉：

Pilot dies in PAF aircraft crash


Pilot dies in PAF aircraft crash

Updated 1 hour ago



ATTOCK: A Pakistan Air Force (PAF) aircraft, which was on a routine operational training mission crashed in Attock Distrct , also killing its pilot, Geo News, reported Monday.

According to PAF spokesman, an aircraft was on its routine training flight when it suddenly crashed near Hazro Tehsil. There were no reports of damage as the crash site is a mountainous region.

Rescue teams reached the site soon after the incident while an investigation board has been set up to investigate the crash.


新闻：巴基斯坦坠机，飞行员死亡。搜救队进行救援。




6楼： pintu (来自印度） 上尉：

PAF aircraft crashes in Attock – The Express Tribune

PAF aircraft crashes in Attock
Published: November 14, 2011


Pilot was unharmed as he ejected himself from the aircraft before it crashed into the ground.


A Pakistan Air Force (PAF) aircraft crashed in the Attock district on Monday.

The pilot’s body was recovered 2km away from the site of the crash. Initial reports suggested that he was unharmed as he ejected himself from the aircraft before the crash. However, officials have confirmed the pilot’s death.

The cause of the crash is not yet known, however, army and airport officials are approaching the area to collect the debris of the plane and launch an inquiry.

The aircraft crashed along the countryside of the Attock district, near Khyber Pakhtunkhwa- Punjab border.

Sources said the aircraft was being used by the PAF during a training exercise.


还是新闻。新闻说飞机是在训练途中坠毁的。




7楼： pintu (来自印度） 上尉：

坠机图片。

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8楼：Sayareakd （来自印度）上尉：

RIP to pilot..................... Junk fighter is falling so fast, they didnt even wait for IAF.

飞行员安息，飞行垃圾摔的真快，根本等不到印度空军来动手。




9楼： Sayareakd （来自印度）上尉：

视屏


10楼：Sabior（无地区显示） 少尉：

RIP ......

I am sorry for the pilot who paid with his life because of the ego of his superiors....

安息。。。。。

对于那些为了官员自豪感而死的飞行员。。。。


11楼：

Sayareakd （来自印度）上尉：

摔机的机头图。

上面画了个小红圈写着： 这就是飞行垃圾的垃圾雷达？



12楼：Yusuf （来自印度）中将：

Switching over to PDF to troll and get banned eh?

JF17, soon to be flying coffin of Pak, it's based on MiG 21 anyways.

我到巴基斯坦防务论坛狂发帖但是被删号了？

雷电17， 很快你就会成为巴空军的飞行棺材，你不过是来自mig21而已。



13楼： Sayareakd （来自印度）上尉：

at least Mig 21 has seen combat, Junk fighter yet to meet IAF, look what is happening to it, BTW i saw news report pilot died because para shoot failed. If i remember correctly chines made first production fighter within 1000 days of the first test flight. That shows the quality of fighter.

oh forget it was cheap-cheap fighter.

回复上一贴： 最起码米格21还是经过战争洗礼的，垃圾战机还没遇见过印度空军呢，瞧，你看它就成了什么样。对了，我看见欣慰上说弹射伞不工作了，假如我没记错的话，这是中国佬试飞这架战机的整整1000天， 这绝对说明了这架战机的质量。

呕，忘记说了，这是架又便宜又烂的战机。


14楼： Yusuf （来自印度）中将：

Would you guys be saying RIP to a Paki soldier/pilot in an event of a war?

We have been at war with them overt covert. None of my sympathies with the dead pilot and his families. One fighter and pilot less for India to contend with.

A.V., sayareakd, neilay and 2 others like this.


你们会在战争中吊念巴基斯坦空军飞行员么。

我们已经跟他们经历过战争了，我不会对他们任何死去的飞行员以及家庭又同情心。死一个飞行员就是少一个印度的敌人。

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15楼： LurkerBaba (来自印度） 上校：

Joint Pak-China developed JF-17 Thunder jet crashes; pilot killed - Indian Express

A Pakistan Air Force jet, believed to be a frontline JF-17 Thunder combat aircraft, crashed during a training flight in Punjab province today, killing the pilot.
....
The pilot, Squadron Leader Muhammad Hussain, was killed as his parachute failed to open after he bailed out of the aircraft, Geo News channel reported.
....
Pakistan has been promoting the JF-17, which it developed jointly with China, as a low cost combat aircraft for

developing countries.

一些新闻链接。。


16楼：Kunal Biswas （来自印度）大校：

R I P to the pilot..

Sound like engine problem, RD-33 is a Russian engine, Same engine use in IAF Mig-29s, Reliable and good but i assume PAF been using Chinese or east block spare parts, IAF use Russian spares for MIG-29s..

飞行员安息

听起来好像是发动机的问题，RD-33是一个俄国发动机。也是印度空军米格29的发动机，非常可靠， 但是我想巴基斯坦空军肯定是用了中国的或者二毛的部件，印度空军的米29只用俄国部件。


楼有增加的评论，持续翻译更新中。






25楼：warriorextreme（来自印度）上校：

RIP to the pilot...too bad he had to fly junk fighter...

对于飞行员的死表示惋惜， 因为他们要驾驶飞行垃圾。。。。。。


27楼： pankaj nema （来自印度）上尉：

RIGHT Now in Dubai air show , JF 17 is being aggressively marketed as

" Take THREE JF 17 for the price of ONE F 16 "

So this is very bad timing for this JF 17 crash .It opens a new can of worms / issues which might have been
hidden so far

Secondly Indian Mig 29 is using TWO RD 33 series 3 engines
which is better than a single RD 93 JF 17 engine which is a variant of RD 33 Engine

A single engine fighter like JF 17 and LCA need very reliable engines

If one engine fails atleast the plane can land safely

There fore we went for GE 404 IN 20 engine since LCA being single engined needed the most reliable engine

Singh, Pintu, hit&run and 1 others like this.


现在在迪拜航展上，雷电战机正在积极的推销中 ”买三个发财等于一个F16的价格“

所以这次坠机是个很坏的时间点，它才刚刚显露出问题的冰山一角。

再次，印度的米格29用两个RD33-3系发动机， 当然好于发财的一个Rd93（RD33的一种拓展型号）

单发战机像发财和LCA需要更可靠的发动机。

假如一个发动机停止工作最起码飞机能落地。（他说的是米格29）

所以LCA所使用的GE404 IN 20 是最可靠的发动机。

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28楼： pankaj nema （来自印度）上尉：
China is very desperate to enter international combat planes market

Hence JF 17 is being marketed in Dubai air show as " Take three for the price of one F 16 "

However JF 17 stands no where close to even Mig 29 Forget about F 16

Now JF 17 will come up with a new slogan

" Buy ONE and GET ONE FREE "

中国非常渴望加入世界战机市场， 所以发财在迪拜航展的广告词就是：买3个发财等于一架F16的价钱.

但是发财根本不可能跟米格29相比，更不用说F16了。

现在发财有一个新的口号了

买一送一


29楼： Sayareakd （来自印度）上尉：

i think pakistan was aware about the problem that is why they advertise 'three for price of one', man even PLA-AF was not buying junk fighter.

我想巴基斯坦知道这个问题所以他才说：“F16 三分之一的价格”， 连中国空军都不卖飞行垃圾。


30楼： Sayareakd （来自印度）上尉：

ok it appears that pilot has very very bad luck with junk fighter not only the plane failed by his para-shoot failed him, his ejection seat is Mk10L ejector seat (F-7P/MP/PG) made by Martin Baker Aircraft Co. Ltd. (U.K.) what is surprising is the fact that it is not zero/zero seat, unlike the one sold by the same company for LCA.
here is the link Martin Baker Aircraft Co. Ltd. - U.K.

this is seat for junk fighter

好的，看起来飞飞行垃圾飞行员的命很背。不仅仅是飞机弹射椅废了飞行员，而且他的弹射椅是Mk10L，（七爷P/MP/PG上用的）。
是英国马丁贝克造的，让我感到惊奇的事这不是个零度弹射的座椅，不像LCA上得高档货。

这就是飞行垃圾座椅的图片：

图片


if you are wondering what is zero zero ejection go through this Ejection seat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

looks like cheap fighter will get you killed cheaply.

如果你去wiki看一看的话，这个座椅很便宜很烂，而且会很容易杀死你。



发财摔了 翻译


浏览三哥军武论坛发现的，这贴不是一般的火啊。

三哥们发自内心的咆哮。

素质真。。。。LCA MIG21.。。

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1楼：  RPK （来自印度）上校：

PAF JF-17 Thunder Crashed in Attock
PAF JF-17 Thunder Crashed in Attock | Columnspk.com | English Newspaper Columns, News, Top Stories, World News, Politics, Middle East


JF-17 Thunder aircraft of Pakistan Air Force has crashed today (14th, Nov 2011) near Mansher Camp. Sources have confirmed the pilot safely ejected. This crash is first for the JF-17 thunder. Its been a year now that JF-17 has been inducted and serving in Pakistan Air Force.

A.V., maomao, utubekhiladi and 1 others like this.


巴空军发财一号在爱托克坠毁

（新闻链接）


巴基斯坦空军JF-17雷电战机今天在Masher营地坠毁（2011年11月14号）， 有消息指出飞行员顺利弹射。 雷电战机已服役巴基斯坦空军一年，这是雷电战机首次坠毁。

然后又4个人喜欢这条新闻






2楼：A.V. (来自苏俄）将军：



Sorry to hear this , a new platform does have some issues i am sure this will be looked into and fixed.

Having said that i am still blaming PAF and the pakistani establishment to rush the production line for JF 17 , they might mock us for our delays but at the end a lot of flight tests is better than induction issues later on.


对此非常抱歉，一个新的平台总有一些问题，但是我相信这些问题会被改善的。

像我之前说的一样，我依然觉得这是巴基斯坦空军匆忙加速建设发财生产线的问题。他们（巴空军）嘲笑我们战机的延迟，但是我觉得试飞还是比后期遇到问题强。（因该是阿三）。




3楼：Bangalore （无地区显示）中尉：


^^ ON the contrary, actually I am not sorry to hear this at all. If the pilot had died I would have been sorry at the loss of life. But I am not sorry at the loss of the aircraft. Good riddance to the Thunder-Bandar.

The Messiah likes this.


反而言之，我觉得一旦都不遗憾。假如飞行员死了的话我表示悼念。但是战机坠毁的话，成功灭掉（雷电）猴。

一个人喜欢





4楼： SR 71 Blackbird （来自印度）中尉：

The good news is the pilot has ejected & is safe.Surely this crash will put some water on the ego of Pakistanis.

A Pakistani news channel reporting that the pilot is dead.
RIP.
Last edited by SR 71 Blackbird; 14-11-11 at 01:01 PM.
A.V. likes this.


好消息是飞行员成功弹射。 肯定的事，这件追击事故会给巴基斯坦人的自豪主义灭灭火。

一个巴基斯坦新闻台播报飞行员死了。

安息

1个人喜欢




5楼：  pintu (来自印度） 上尉：

Pilot dies in PAF aircraft crash


Pilot dies in PAF aircraft crash

Updated 1 hour ago



ATTOCK: A Pakistan Air Force (PAF) aircraft, which was on a routine operational training mission crashed in Attock Distrct , also killing its pilot, Geo News, reported Monday.

According to PAF spokesman, an aircraft was on its routine training flight when it suddenly crashed near Hazro Tehsil. There were no reports of damage as the crash site is a mountainous region.

Rescue teams reached the site soon after the incident while an investigation board has been set up to investigate the crash.


新闻：巴基斯坦坠机，飞行员死亡。搜救队进行救援。




6楼： pintu (来自印度） 上尉：

PAF aircraft crashes in Attock – The Express Tribune

PAF aircraft crashes in Attock
Published: November 14, 2011


Pilot was unharmed as he ejected himself from the aircraft before it crashed into the ground.


A Pakistan Air Force (PAF) aircraft crashed in the Attock district on Monday.

The pilot’s body was recovered 2km away from the site of the crash. Initial reports suggested that he was unharmed as he ejected himself from the aircraft before the crash. However, officials have confirmed the pilot’s death.

The cause of the crash is not yet known, however, army and airport officials are approaching the area to collect the debris of the plane and launch an inquiry.

The aircraft crashed along the countryside of the Attock district, near Khyber Pakhtunkhwa- Punjab border.

Sources said the aircraft was being used by the PAF during a training exercise.


还是新闻。新闻说飞机是在训练途中坠毁的。




7楼： pintu (来自印度） 上尉：

坠机图片。

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8楼：Sayareakd （来自印度）上尉：

RIP to pilot..................... Junk fighter is falling so fast, they didnt even wait for IAF.

飞行员安息，飞行垃圾摔的真快，根本等不到印度空军来动手。




9楼： Sayareakd （来自印度）上尉：

视屏


10楼：Sabior（无地区显示） 少尉：

RIP ......

I am sorry for the pilot who paid with his life because of the ego of his superiors....

安息。。。。。

对于那些为了官员自豪感而死的飞行员。。。。


11楼：

Sayareakd （来自印度）上尉：

摔机的机头图。

上面画了个小红圈写着： 这就是飞行垃圾的垃圾雷达？



12楼：Yusuf （来自印度）中将：

Switching over to PDF to troll and get banned eh?

JF17, soon to be flying coffin of Pak, it's based on MiG 21 anyways.

我到巴基斯坦防务论坛狂发帖但是被删号了？

雷电17， 很快你就会成为巴空军的飞行棺材，你不过是来自mig21而已。



13楼： Sayareakd （来自印度）上尉：

at least Mig 21 has seen combat, Junk fighter yet to meet IAF, look what is happening to it, BTW i saw news report pilot died because para shoot failed. If i remember correctly chines made first production fighter within 1000 days of the first test flight. That shows the quality of fighter.

oh forget it was cheap-cheap fighter.

回复上一贴： 最起码米格21还是经过战争洗礼的，垃圾战机还没遇见过印度空军呢，瞧，你看它就成了什么样。对了，我看见欣慰上说弹射伞不工作了，假如我没记错的话，这是中国佬试飞这架战机的整整1000天， 这绝对说明了这架战机的质量。

呕，忘记说了，这是架又便宜又烂的战机。


14楼： Yusuf （来自印度）中将：

Would you guys be saying RIP to a Paki soldier/pilot in an event of a war?

We have been at war with them overt covert. None of my sympathies with the dead pilot and his families. One fighter and pilot less for India to contend with.

A.V., sayareakd, neilay and 2 others like this.


你们会在战争中吊念巴基斯坦空军飞行员么。

我们已经跟他们经历过战争了，我不会对他们任何死去的飞行员以及家庭又同情心。死一个飞行员就是少一个印度的敌人。

5个人喜欢


15楼： LurkerBaba (来自印度） 上校：

Joint Pak-China developed JF-17 Thunder jet crashes; pilot killed - Indian Express

A Pakistan Air Force jet, believed to be a frontline JF-17 Thunder combat aircraft, crashed during a training flight in Punjab province today, killing the pilot.
....
The pilot, Squadron Leader Muhammad Hussain, was killed as his parachute failed to open after he bailed out of the aircraft, Geo News channel reported.
....
Pakistan has been promoting the JF-17, which it developed jointly with China, as a low cost combat aircraft for

developing countries.

一些新闻链接。。


16楼：Kunal Biswas （来自印度）大校：

R I P to the pilot..

Sound like engine problem, RD-33 is a Russian engine, Same engine use in IAF Mig-29s, Reliable and good but i assume PAF been using Chinese or east block spare parts, IAF use Russian spares for MIG-29s..

飞行员安息

听起来好像是发动机的问题，RD-33是一个俄国发动机。也是印度空军米格29的发动机，非常可靠， 但是我想巴基斯坦空军肯定是用了中国的或者二毛的部件，印度空军的米29只用俄国部件。


楼有增加的评论，持续翻译更新中。






25楼：warriorextreme（来自印度）上校：

RIP to the pilot...too bad he had to fly junk fighter...

对于飞行员的死表示惋惜， 因为他们要驾驶飞行垃圾。。。。。。


27楼： pankaj nema （来自印度）上尉：

RIGHT Now in Dubai air show , JF 17 is being aggressively marketed as

" Take THREE JF 17 for the price of ONE F 16 "

So this is very bad timing for this JF 17 crash .It opens a new can of worms / issues which might have been
hidden so far

Secondly Indian Mig 29 is using TWO RD 33 series 3 engines
which is better than a single RD 93 JF 17 engine which is a variant of RD 33 Engine

A single engine fighter like JF 17 and LCA need very reliable engines

If one engine fails atleast the plane can land safely

There fore we went for GE 404 IN 20 engine since LCA being single engined needed the most reliable engine

Singh, Pintu, hit&run and 1 others like this.


现在在迪拜航展上，雷电战机正在积极的推销中 ”买三个发财等于一个F16的价格“

所以这次坠机是个很坏的时间点，它才刚刚显露出问题的冰山一角。

再次，印度的米格29用两个RD33-3系发动机， 当然好于发财的一个Rd93（RD33的一种拓展型号）

单发战机像发财和LCA需要更可靠的发动机。

假如一个发动机停止工作最起码飞机能落地。（他说的是米格29）

所以LCA所使用的GE404 IN 20 是最可靠的发动机。

4个人喜欢这条



28楼： pankaj nema （来自印度）上尉：
China is very desperate to enter international combat planes market

Hence JF 17 is being marketed in Dubai air show as " Take three for the price of one F 16 "

However JF 17 stands no where close to even Mig 29 Forget about F 16

Now JF 17 will come up with a new slogan

" Buy ONE and GET ONE FREE "

中国非常渴望加入世界战机市场， 所以发财在迪拜航展的广告词就是：买3个发财等于一架F16的价钱.

但是发财根本不可能跟米格29相比，更不用说F16了。

现在发财有一个新的口号了

买一送一


29楼： Sayareakd （来自印度）上尉：

i think pakistan was aware about the problem that is why they advertise 'three for price of one', man even PLA-AF was not buying junk fighter.

我想巴基斯坦知道这个问题所以他才说：“F16 三分之一的价格”， 连中国空军都不卖飞行垃圾。


30楼： Sayareakd （来自印度）上尉：

ok it appears that pilot has very very bad luck with junk fighter not only the plane failed by his para-shoot failed him, his ejection seat is Mk10L ejector seat (F-7P/MP/PG) made by Martin Baker Aircraft Co. Ltd. (U.K.) what is surprising is the fact that it is not zero/zero seat, unlike the one sold by the same company for LCA.
here is the link Martin Baker Aircraft Co. Ltd. - U.K.

this is seat for junk fighter

好的，看起来飞飞行垃圾飞行员的命很背。不仅仅是飞机弹射椅废了飞行员，而且他的弹射椅是Mk10L，（七爷P/MP/PG上用的）。
是英国马丁贝克造的，让我感到惊奇的事这不是个零度弹射的座椅，不像LCA上得高档货。

这就是飞行垃圾座椅的图片：

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if you are wondering what is zero zero ejection go through this Ejection seat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

looks like cheap fighter will get you killed cheaply.

如果你去wiki看一看的话，这个座椅很便宜很烂，而且会很容易杀死你。



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