路透社:欧盟已经傲慢的拒绝了TG援助解决欧元危机的条件

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路透社今天报道,根据路透社的两处不同的线人的可靠情报,欧盟已经傲慢的拒绝了TG援助欧元危机的条件。TG对援助欧元危机提出了两项公开条件和一项非公开条件。只要三项条件中欧盟能够选择满足一项条件TG就给钱。

这两项公开条件是
1)给TG在国际货币基金会IMF更多权力,
2)或者承认TG的市场经济身份。
3)第三项条件是不公开的,即是取消欧盟在1989年六月份开始对TG实施的武器禁运。

这三项条件中的第一项条件是最简单的,但当欧盟发现答应了TG的这个在IMF要权的条件就意味着要把人民币也加进特别提取权货币SDR的成员货币的篮子时,欧盟已经傲慢的拒绝了TG的这一个要求。

剩下的二个要求难度更大。TG在江core时代加入世贸时没有市场经济的身份,现在答应了第二个条件的话欧盟就更加无法起诉TG搞倾销或禁止TG吞并欧洲的高科技公司。而第三个非公开的取消武器禁运的条件这么多年都没成功,困难更大。

媒体评论说,欧盟看来并不是真缺钱到了要放弃原则的地步,欧盟还是认为自己能解决欧元危机问题。

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Exclusive: Politics stymie China's EU aid offer: sources


(Reuters) - Diplomatic deadlock is curbing China's will to provide cash to help end the euro zone crisis after Europe spurned the simplest of Beijing's three key demands, two independent sources have told Reuters.

China had offered help in return for European support to grant it either more influence at the International Monetary Fund, market economy status in the World Trade Organization, or the lifting of a European arms embargo, said the sources, both of whom have direct knowledge of the matter, including one who has ties to the leadership in Beijing.

The IMF route would have been the simplest diplomatically, especially after European Union leaders last month laid out a plan to leverage up the resources of its crisis-fighting fund through an IMF-backed investment vehicle.

But the sources in Beijing say that this option was abruptly closed to China when it became clear to EU politicians that any investment from China would be contingent on gaining a greater say in IMF decision-making and a more rapid path to inclusion of China's yuan in the IMF's special drawing rights (SDR) currency unit.

Increasing China's say at the IMF would mean reducing EU representation and possibly diluting the influence of the United States, which enjoys veto-power status given its voting rights at the Fund.

"We are willing to help, but we are not a charity," the source with leadership ties told Reuters, requesting anonymity due to political sensitivities.

"The United States and the IMF also attach conditions (when they help financially troubled countries). It is not unreasonable for China to do the same. They can always reject (our demands)," the source said.

Including the yuan in the SDR is important to China because the IMF unit is a basket of the currencies in which most global trade is settled -- U.S. dollars, euros, Japanese yen and sterling.

If the yuan were in the basket, that would dent the dollar's global influence and help stem the inflation-fuelling inflows of foreign capital that China's central bank has to sterilize. It would also be a symbolic boost for the yuan, underscoring Beijing's desire for a bigger say in the running of the international monetary system.

CHINA'S WISHLIST

China has said before that it would like to see its currency become part of the SDR. Chinese President Hu Jintao signaled that wish again at last week's G20 Summit in Cannes.

"We should ... expand the use of the SDR of the IMF, reform the SDR currency basket," Hu said.

But China's near-term hopes were dashed when IMF chief Christine Lagarde told a news conference in Beijing on Thursday that the time was not right for the yuan to be included in the SDR units, although such a time might come soon.

She did not offer a timetable, but the next review of the basket components is not scheduled until 2015.

More broadly, the idea that China should ask for something in return for helping Europe has been suggested many times by local pundits and occasionally officials, too.

In a September speech, Premier Wen Jiabao ostensibly made China's support of Europe conditional on the EU backing a proposal that it recognize China as a market economy, a comment that sparked a slew of critical editorials in Western media.

Days after Wen spoke, a Chinese Commerce Ministry spokesman appeared to back-pedal, saying financial aid to the EU was not contingent on Europe granting China market economy status that would, under WTO rules, make it harder for Europe to apply trade sanctions against Chinese imports.

China accepted its designation as a non-market economy when joining the WTO in 2001.

And China has been relatively restrained in not demanding publicly that Europe scrap an arms embargo against China -- introduced after the 1989 military crackdown on student-led, pro-democracy protests centered on Beijing's Tiananmen Square -- in return for financial assistance to end the debt crisis.

China fears that the euro zone's sovereign debt crisis could trigger trade friction with its biggest export market and hurt its exports and economy.

OPPORTUNISM IRKS EUROPE

For their part, some European policymakers are irked by what they call the opportunism of China's apparent wish to trade some of its vast foreign wealth for increased influence.

"The idea that Europe is desperate for China's money is wrong," one senior euro zone monetary official said this week, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"I don't like all this talk of Europe begging China for help, because Europe has the resources to solve its own problems if it can find the political will," the source said.

China's leaders, meanwhile, must show their citizens that giving some of the country's $3.2 trillion in foreign exchange reserves to Europe is a good thing -- especially given the country's exposure to the 36 percent decline in the nominal value of the U.S. dollar over the last decade.

While China's top officials are not popularly elected, public criticism can sometimes expose a senior leader to attack by other factions in the Communist Party leadership.

Tens of thousands of netizens have been venting their anger online, demanding their leaders sort out China's own problems before bailing out Europe. [ID:nL4E7M30NT]

"There is no free lunch. If we get nothing in return, (the leadership) will 'invite a stinking smell' to themselves," the source with direct knowledge of the matter said, quoting a Chinese idiom.

Europe's rejection of China's demands -- particularly the inclusion of the renminbi in the SDR -- was tantamount to "a slap in the face," said the source.

That could make it even less likely that Beijing will ride to Europe's rescue with a huge cash infusion that some Chinese sources say could be as large as $100 billion.

(Editing by Don Durfee)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2 ... USTRE7AA2DU20111111

路透社今天报道,根据路透社的两处不同的线人的可靠情报,欧盟已经傲慢的拒绝了TG援助欧元危机的条件。TG对援助欧元危机提出了两项公开条件和一项非公开条件。只要三项条件中欧盟能够选择满足一项条件TG就给钱。

这两项公开条件是
1)给TG在国际货币基金会IMF更多权力,
2)或者承认TG的市场经济身份。
3)第三项条件是不公开的,即是取消欧盟在1989年六月份开始对TG实施的武器禁运。

这三项条件中的第一项条件是最简单的,但当欧盟发现答应了TG的这个在IMF要权的条件就意味着要把人民币也加进特别提取权货币SDR的成员货币的篮子时,欧盟已经傲慢的拒绝了TG的这一个要求。

剩下的二个要求难度更大。TG在江core时代加入世贸时没有市场经济的身份,现在答应了第二个条件的话欧盟就更加无法起诉TG搞倾销或禁止TG吞并欧洲的高科技公司。而第三个非公开的取消武器禁运的条件这么多年都没成功,困难更大。

媒体评论说,欧盟看来并不是真缺钱到了要放弃原则的地步,欧盟还是认为自己能解决欧元危机问题。

——————————————————————————

Exclusive: Politics stymie China's EU aid offer: sources


(Reuters) - Diplomatic deadlock is curbing China's will to provide cash to help end the euro zone crisis after Europe spurned the simplest of Beijing's three key demands, two independent sources have told Reuters.

China had offered help in return for European support to grant it either more influence at the International Monetary Fund, market economy status in the World Trade Organization, or the lifting of a European arms embargo, said the sources, both of whom have direct knowledge of the matter, including one who has ties to the leadership in Beijing.

The IMF route would have been the simplest diplomatically, especially after European Union leaders last month laid out a plan to leverage up the resources of its crisis-fighting fund through an IMF-backed investment vehicle.

But the sources in Beijing say that this option was abruptly closed to China when it became clear to EU politicians that any investment from China would be contingent on gaining a greater say in IMF decision-making and a more rapid path to inclusion of China's yuan in the IMF's special drawing rights (SDR) currency unit.

Increasing China's say at the IMF would mean reducing EU representation and possibly diluting the influence of the United States, which enjoys veto-power status given its voting rights at the Fund.

"We are willing to help, but we are not a charity," the source with leadership ties told Reuters, requesting anonymity due to political sensitivities.

"The United States and the IMF also attach conditions (when they help financially troubled countries). It is not unreasonable for China to do the same. They can always reject (our demands)," the source said.

Including the yuan in the SDR is important to China because the IMF unit is a basket of the currencies in which most global trade is settled -- U.S. dollars, euros, Japanese yen and sterling.

If the yuan were in the basket, that would dent the dollar's global influence and help stem the inflation-fuelling inflows of foreign capital that China's central bank has to sterilize. It would also be a symbolic boost for the yuan, underscoring Beijing's desire for a bigger say in the running of the international monetary system.

CHINA'S WISHLIST

China has said before that it would like to see its currency become part of the SDR. Chinese President Hu Jintao signaled that wish again at last week's G20 Summit in Cannes.

"We should ... expand the use of the SDR of the IMF, reform the SDR currency basket," Hu said.

But China's near-term hopes were dashed when IMF chief Christine Lagarde told a news conference in Beijing on Thursday that the time was not right for the yuan to be included in the SDR units, although such a time might come soon.

She did not offer a timetable, but the next review of the basket components is not scheduled until 2015.

More broadly, the idea that China should ask for something in return for helping Europe has been suggested many times by local pundits and occasionally officials, too.

In a September speech, Premier Wen Jiabao ostensibly made China's support of Europe conditional on the EU backing a proposal that it recognize China as a market economy, a comment that sparked a slew of critical editorials in Western media.

Days after Wen spoke, a Chinese Commerce Ministry spokesman appeared to back-pedal, saying financial aid to the EU was not contingent on Europe granting China market economy status that would, under WTO rules, make it harder for Europe to apply trade sanctions against Chinese imports.

China accepted its designation as a non-market economy when joining the WTO in 2001.

And China has been relatively restrained in not demanding publicly that Europe scrap an arms embargo against China -- introduced after the 1989 military crackdown on student-led, pro-democracy protests centered on Beijing's Tiananmen Square -- in return for financial assistance to end the debt crisis.

China fears that the euro zone's sovereign debt crisis could trigger trade friction with its biggest export market and hurt its exports and economy.

OPPORTUNISM IRKS EUROPE

For their part, some European policymakers are irked by what they call the opportunism of China's apparent wish to trade some of its vast foreign wealth for increased influence.

"The idea that Europe is desperate for China's money is wrong," one senior euro zone monetary official said this week, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"I don't like all this talk of Europe begging China for help, because Europe has the resources to solve its own problems if it can find the political will," the source said.

China's leaders, meanwhile, must show their citizens that giving some of the country's $3.2 trillion in foreign exchange reserves to Europe is a good thing -- especially given the country's exposure to the 36 percent decline in the nominal value of the U.S. dollar over the last decade.

While China's top officials are not popularly elected, public criticism can sometimes expose a senior leader to attack by other factions in the Communist Party leadership.

Tens of thousands of netizens have been venting their anger online, demanding their leaders sort out China's own problems before bailing out Europe. [ID:nL4E7M30NT]

"There is no free lunch. If we get nothing in return, (the leadership) will 'invite a stinking smell' to themselves," the source with direct knowledge of the matter said, quoting a Chinese idiom.

Europe's rejection of China's demands -- particularly the inclusion of the renminbi in the SDR -- was tantamount to "a slap in the face," said the source.

That could make it even less likely that Beijing will ride to Europe's rescue with a huge cash infusion that some Chinese sources say could be as large as $100 billion.

(Editing by Don Durfee)
那就等着房子着火,我们花小钱办事
不接受援助就等着经济崩溃吧
没事,反正我们是没有损失的,隔岸光火,格外悠哉
坐等老欧洲杯具。
我相信白鬼子有能力有信力度过这次危机。
看戏呗
那傻客气和莫克尔就自己玩吧,英
TG不应隔岸观火,而应主动出击
英国佬这个欧洲搅屎棍的所谓内幕怕是跟它美爹说的萨达姆之大规模杀伤武器一样不着调
自己玩蛋去吧。
叫花子不能挑三拣四
我们相信白皮猪能够自己把猪圈建好!!

我看好你哟
哈哈,这条件刚刚的!不是我不管啊
他们的处境或许并没有我们认为的那么艰难,人家自己完全可以解决,兔子还是看好自己的一亩三分地吧…
借钱还不肯低头,吃自己吧。
敬酒不吃让你Y连罚酒都没有
只要德國鬼子肯出錢,歐盟的問題還是會解決的。

現在,就看德國鬼子肯不肯吃虧了。估計最后還是縮小歐元區的範圍这招。
TG不应隔岸观火,而应主动出击
怎么个出击法?
欧洲这次挂掉的几率很高,只是可怜了我们隐藏在欧洲的盟友-德国,还有最近新发展的盟友-英国

萨科齐有时候有点天真,总爱藏点小心思

这次欧洲如果乱了,萨科齐难辞其咎,将来将在世界历史上流下不光彩的落笔

萨科齐以为用点小糖果可以打发金砖五国,金砖五国除了中国和俄罗斯财力雄厚,另外三个国家没钱

你那边还拿着伊朗问题来要挟俄罗斯和中国,说白了伊朗核问题目前跟俄罗斯入世息息相关,只要俄罗斯入世没有成功,伊朗马上拥有核武器,还有在阿富汗的美军等着中俄围歼

所以,大家最近看到俄罗斯入世为什么最近顺了,有实力当然顺了

伊朗目前的石油是用欧元结算的,欧洲支持打伊朗,那我们还救欧洲做什么,欧洲已经没救了
1895tet 发表于 2011-11-11 23:47
英国佬这个欧洲搅屎棍的所谓内幕怕是跟它美爹说的萨达姆之大规模杀伤武器一样不着调
很有可能。欧元不倒,英国捉急死了。
牛逼了啊 还傲慢呢,借钱的还成大爷了?
俺们又不求你让俺们救你。。。。这话肿么说的绕口。。。
神秘兮兮 发表于 2011-11-11 23:50
只要德國鬼子肯出錢,歐盟的問題還是會解決的。

現在,就看德國鬼子肯不肯吃虧了。估計最后還是縮小歐元 ...
没错,把拖欧元后腿的国家全部踢出欧盟这个壮士断腕式的举措是最现实的办法,就看德法下不下得了这决心了。
牛牛这是看公鸡、汉斯的笑话吧
还公开不公开的三个条件?这都说了多少年了?漫天要价坐地还钱,这三个是配头!
SB孤狼SB 发表于 2011-11-11 23:48
我们相信白皮猪能够自己把猪圈建好!!

我看好你哟
你说不管用
用张菊说了才管用:D
1895tet 发表于 2011-11-11 23:47
英国佬这个欧洲搅屎棍的所谓内幕怕是跟它美爹说的萨达姆之大规模杀伤武器一样不着调
甭管怎样,英国真的对不起海峡对岸的欧洲诸国,他这么做有什么好处
想空手套白狼,没那么容易
现在不卖,等着换季大减价再卖么
死到临头还嘴硬,真是不见棺材不流泪
说明还没火烧屁股,那就继续烤着吧
欧盟已经让我不知道该说啥了,我很想纯表
楼上的你确定那两个是我们盟友?
不见棺材不落泪,说,你要翻盖的还是要滑盖的?
我们就在一边看戏吧。黑塔利亚一只脚已经进棺材了。
怎么感觉是阴谋家写的...
guangff 发表于 2011-11-11 23:49
他们的处境或许并没有我们认为的那么艰难,人家自己完全可以解决,兔子还是看好自己的一亩三分地吧…
用扩大进口支持欧盟,我们只能做这么,其他的静观其变,欧州是老牌帝国扎堆的地方,他们有的是拯救自己的细软,
其实根本没必要出访,等着吧,过不了多久某些国家就会派出几百人的考察团来华,对了,这次别给他们管饭,下了飞机别给专车,坐一块五的不给报,坐一块二的再报
我就说嘛,这时候不谈个好价钱,随便给钱就太不划算了