KEYPUBLISH上对于丝带气动的评价

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看下来KEYPUBLISHING上的喷子还是很少的。不少人对J20表示了祝贺。不过大部分人对于J20的气动都不是很看好,认为不如PAK FA。看得很是让我揪心。不知CD各位达人对此有什么看法呢?
"Agreed, it has more supersonic potential with engine upgrades then either F-22/T-50, but i think thrust deficit will hold it back for a long time."

No way in hell is it a better high mach performer than the T-50. This is not even debatable. The Chinese paper I linked to discussing the DSI intakes on this things also discusses the sort of performance you should expect from this sort of design. It is optimized for transonic flight, hence the canards. At any speed over mach 1 you will see performance degradation thanks to the intake design they selected. The T-50 on the other hand is all but meant to be a high mach cruiser with absurd escape speeds. It's intakes in no way shape or form hamper high mach performance, and it has no canards instilling a weight penalty and adding drag. All else equal, the T-50 will have a better top speed, and this is not debatable. In fact, all else equal the T-50 should have a significantly higher top speed than the F-22 too.

As for superior stealth, I have to ask -- based on what? The gigantic control surfaces or the utterly conventional rear? There is no eyeballing it. It might well be stealthier than the F-35 and the T-50, but anyone who claims with certainty like this to know is a lying SOB.看下来KEYPUBLISHING上的喷子还是很少的。不少人对J20表示了祝贺。不过大部分人对于J20的气动都不是很看好,认为不如PAK FA。看得很是让我揪心。不知CD各位达人对此有什么看法呢?
"Agreed, it has more supersonic potential with engine upgrades then either F-22/T-50, but i think thrust deficit will hold it back for a long time."

No way in hell is it a better high mach performer than the T-50. This is not even debatable. The Chinese paper I linked to discussing the DSI intakes on this things also discusses the sort of performance you should expect from this sort of design. It is optimized for transonic flight, hence the canards. At any speed over mach 1 you will see performance degradation thanks to the intake design they selected. The T-50 on the other hand is all but meant to be a high mach cruiser with absurd escape speeds. It's intakes in no way shape or form hamper high mach performance, and it has no canards instilling a weight penalty and adding drag. All else equal, the T-50 will have a better top speed, and this is not debatable. In fact, all else equal the T-50 should have a significantly higher top speed than the F-22 too.

As for superior stealth, I have to ask -- based on what? The gigantic control surfaces or the utterly conventional rear? There is no eyeballing it. It might well be stealthier than the F-35 and the T-50, but anyone who claims with certainty like this to know is a lying SOB.
:lol CF团队集体下课.让这些人上.工资奖金双倍..
大致说下他们的看法
DSI和鸭翼影响 超音速下机动能力
各位说说
是这么回事么
回复 3# dreadnaught

你这看法也摘得太简单了吧


他不知道原来J-20的DSI是可调的,和F-35的固定式DSI不一样,所以高速性能不会受影响。

T-50一定会比F-22飞得快?我看未必。Su-27就没有F-15飞得快。F-22最大速度达到了M2.4以上。

他不知道原来J-20的DSI是可调的,和F-35的固定式DSI不一样,所以高速性能不会受影响。

T-50一定会比F-22飞得快?我看未必。Su-27就没有F-15飞得快。F-22最大速度达到了M2.4以上。
最后那段:隐形性能无法靠眼睛看出来,任何凭眼睛看出来并对飞机的隐身性能说出很肯定的判断的人必定就是一个撒谎的Son of B*tch。
克雷格山 发表于 2010-12-30 00:27

论坛专家不见得都是真材实料的专家~~~反正不知底细, 也不用太信他, 信CF的大师吧, 毕竟他们成功了两次, 一次10, 一次小龙!
那帮说不如T50的都是毛子
相信成飞的设计团队!!!
re4
其实他的看法就那么点,后面被人打脸了。说两风具有良好的超音速性能。
re5
可调DSI应该会浮云的
re6
对,确实都是毛子