99和豹2A5哪个厉害点儿

先占位，看达人解答。

叫兽猎人 发表于 2010-2-5 14:39
现在装备的叫99，没A

99A2素咩东东？

bkc ：德国胜
hkc：99胜

当然是德国

纯纸上谈兵，拿起KC随便穿呗。

天涯志士 发表于 2010-2-5 17:33


    这人还能发多久福利？agein能回答一下么？

这两天陆版怎么都是这样的帖子...........

T-54坦克 发表于 2010-2-5 21:26
快过年了……

火炮99取胜，防护基本99略强，其余豹2A5完胜

如果“火炮99取胜，防护基本99略强”那么已经是99完胜豹2A5。在防护和火力面前，其它性能是个屁。

按照老外的资料，豹2A5除了火炮比豹2A6弱，防护是一样的，而且使用的是钨合金装甲。当然，愤愤了解外国武器是绝不参照外文资料的，参照的是其它愤愤的耳语。

一巴掌拍死七个 发表于 2010-2-6 10:07

这个···火控么 还是稍微有点差距的···其他可维护性啊之类的 也还是豹子好一点···机动性么 呵呵 完胜呃···

sunlibo1986 发表于 2010-2-6 10:15

99式的火控、可靠性、可维护性并不为零，而且也是可以实战的程度。如果火力防护都比对方强，那么就能稳胜对方，对方的火控、可靠性、可维护性再好也枉然。

一巴掌拍死七个 发表于 2010-2-6 10:07

拿某网站毫无根据的资料当证据的，也没比FF强哪去

火炮99占优，防护差不多，机动性猫2A5占优，火控猫2A5稍微强一点

一巴掌拍死七个 发表于 2010-2-6 10:07

“钨合金装甲”是啥玩意？阁下在深山老林里修炼三十年研制出来的么？:o

豹子胜~~~~

revolutionzz 发表于 2010-2-6 11:03


    标题党？:o

口水话题。我宁愿比较哪个的电台更先进。

只要99上的激光压制(就是顶上好个小箱子)系统起作用豹2就只能挨打了

99强一点,毕竟是后发制人阿,

一巴掌拍死七个 发表于 2010-2-6 10:07
我还能说什么?只能一次又一次的笑而不语...;P

{:wu:}兰州,你能说清你爸和你妈哪个厉害?

巷战公交车 发表于 2010-2-6 10:52

资料我已经贴过，老外的原话如此。

小愤不要总是随时随地尿裤子。

lz打算怎么比，让他两面对面对轰么:sleepy:

这不好比嘛...我个人还是觉的A5好点吧....

一巴掌拍死七个 发表于 2010-2-6 17:48


    钨合金装甲的资料你贴过？烦请发个链接

tungsten armour.

http://www.armedforces-int.com/p ... in_battle_tank.html

这是老外写的一篇介绍现代坦克装甲的文章中的一段，作者认为钨合金和贫铀合金都是高性能的装甲材料。

(5) High tensile alloy faced armor. This is an arrangement common amongst state of the art tanks. Basically, it is a thin sheet of tungsten alloy or in the case of late model M1 tanks Depleted Uranium acting as the strike face of whatever the armor type is underneath. The mission of this is to fracture long rod penetrators and render them practically useless. Tungsten-carbide is actually harder than DU, but DU is also very hard and is less prone to shattering making it a superior material for penetrators and strike faces. The problem is DU dust is toxic and is very unhealthy if breathed in.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread162738/pg1

这是老外写的一篇介绍现代坦克装甲的文章中的一段，作者认为钨合金和贫铀合金都是高性能的装甲材料。

(5) High tensile alloy faced armor. This is an arrangement common amongst state of the art tanks. Basically, it is a thin sheet of tungsten alloy or in the case of late model M1 tanks Depleted Uranium acting as the strike face of whatever the armor type is underneath. The mission of this is to fracture long rod penetrators and render them practically useless. Tungsten-carbide is actually harder than DU, but DU is also very hard and is less prone to shattering making it a superior material for penetrators and strike faces. The problem is DU dust is toxic and is very unhealthy if breathed in.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread162738/pg1

又是英文，偶英文不好，能翻译下么？谢谢

纸面性能豹牛。但真pk起来也难讲。

回复 13# 一巴掌拍死七个 教主啊，还坚持使用钨合金呢？唉.............差不多得了...........都已经给您换了多硬度混合钢板了，您就别坚持了.............钨弹芯硬不代表那玩意能做装甲，您要是想靠谱点，还是去北方所找找王X梅去借本书看看都比那个什么“外国铁血网”强.............

回复 31# 一巴掌拍死七个 您以为贫铀合金如何使用啊？真的做成片一片片的放进去？要是这么用，M1A2就要一百多吨..............

回复 31# 一巴掌拍死七个 关于豹2装甲的问题，本人已经在86期的NAAS上写得很清楚了，要是国外有人照着翻译并且发布在某网站上，教主是不是要改变一下看法呢？

猎杀m1a2 发表于 2010-2-6 22:26


链接1说的是豹2的装甲是第三代复合材料，包括高硬度钢，钨和塑料填充物的陶瓷组件。

链接2说的是豹2A4的炮塔升级了钛、钨装甲。

没什么评价的意义,多少专业文章都论证过了

关于钨合金做装甲的外文技术介绍：

除了美国使用贫铀以外，其它大多数国家都使用碳化钨或者简单的表面硬化钢做装甲。这些技术文章早已汗牛充栋，显然只是愤愤们在“深山老林”中独自“钨合金装甲是啥玩意？”。

In terms of kinetic energy threats, the only kind of projectile that even has a chance at penetrating a heavy tank’s frontal arc is a long rod projectile. You cannot describe the ability to protect against them as a thickness of steel. Depleted Uranium or Tungsten-Carbide rods will pierce ordinary steel like butter and any kind of sane thickness is quite irrelevant. If you shoot the LR penetrators into a 5m block of steel they’ll simply embed themselves in it. This is not how tank armor typically stop the APFSDS-T or DU rounds. There is no armor that is say 300mm thick, but equal 1200 mm of steel and hence cause a penetrator that will go through 1000mm of steel to be stopped after 250mm of this “miracle armor” and stick out like a dart on a dart board. It doesn’t work like that. The key to stopping long rod penetrators is fracturing it on impact. If you are successful, you will have an inch or two worth of a dent and there will be practically no penetration. If you fail, the rod will most likely go right through your armor no matter how thick or thin it physically is. Generally speaking, the system employed to achieve this is a very high tensile metal face plate that is relatively thin. And their effectiveness depends highly on the penetrator itself. The US uses Depleted Uranium for this. Most others use tungsten carbide or simply face hardened steel. Tungsten carbide is actually harder than DU, but DU is sufficiently hard and is less prone to shattering than TC. In the end, 80% of the tank’s ability to stop sabot KE rounds comes down to 10 to 20mm worth of armor

回复  一巴掌拍死七个 教主啊，还坚持使用钨合金呢？唉.............差不多得了...........都已经给您换了多 ...钨弹芯硬不代表那玩意能做装甲
红外6904 发表于 2010-2-6 22:36

关于钨合金做装甲的外文技术介绍：

除了美国使用贫铀以外，其它大多数国家都使用碳化钨或者简单的表面硬化钢做装甲。这些技术文章早已汗牛充栋，显然只是愤愤们在“深山老林”中独自“钨合金装甲是啥玩意？”。

In terms of kinetic energy threats, the only kind of projectile that even has a chance at penetrating a heavy tank’s frontal arc is a long rod projectile. You cannot describe the ability to protect against them as a thickness of steel. Depleted Uranium or Tungsten-Carbide rods will pierce ordinary steel like butter and any kind of sane thickness is quite irrelevant. If you shoot the LR penetrators into a 5m block of steel they’ll simply embed themselves in it. This is not how tank armor typically stop the APFSDS-T or DU rounds. There is no armor that is say 300mm thick, but equal 1200 mm of steel and hence cause a penetrator that will go through 1000mm of steel to be stopped after 250mm of this “miracle armor” and stick out like a dart on a dart board. It doesn’t work like that. The key to stopping long rod penetrators is fracturing it on impact. If you are successful, you will have an inch or two worth of a dent and there will be practically no penetration. If you fail, the rod will most likely go right through your armor no matter how thick or thin it physically is. Generally speaking, the system employed to achieve this is a very high tensile metal face plate that is relatively thin. And their effectiveness depends highly on the penetrator itself. The US uses Depleted Uranium for this. Most others use tungsten carbide or simply face hardened steel. Tungsten carbide is actually harder than DU, but DU is sufficiently hard and is less prone to shattering than TC. In the end, 80% of the tank’s ability to stop sabot KE rounds comes down to 10 to 20mm worth of armor

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