巴专家称印40年代启动核武器研制远早于中国

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巴专家称印40年代启动核武器研制远早于中国  2009年12月10日   来源:东方网  




    印度ANI通讯社7日报道,美国布鲁金斯学会客座学者、巴基斯坦军事专家、陆军退役准将纳英·萨力克称,印度是亚洲首个启动核武器项目研制的国家,这显然并非是对中国寻求原子弹做出的反应。相反,印度核武器研究项目要远早于中国。
   
    著有《南亚核威慑起源——巴基斯坦观点》一书的萨力克称,早在上世纪40年代的时候,印度原子科学家霍米·巴巴(Homi Bhabha)便将印度核项目概念化,后又启动了这一项目研制,其进入该领域的时间要远早于中国。
   
    印度独立后不久,印度首任总理尼赫鲁就接受印度科学家霍米·巴巴先生关于在印度发展原子技术的建议,成立了原子能委员会,并且亲自兼任该委员会主席。从20世纪50年代起,印度先后建立了巴巴原子研究中心等一大批原子科学研究和技术开发机构。由于政府高度重视,印度的原子技术获得了十分重要的发展,使印度在原子技术的某些方面处于世界前列。联合国原子能机构也把印度作为发展中国家原子技术人才的培训基地。
   
    萨力克称,印度是亚洲启动核武器研究,进而引发连锁反应的第一个国家。他表示,早在上世纪六十年代的时候,印度就已经建立了重水及燃料后处理厂。到1965年的时候,相关情报评估显示印度将在数年内获得核武器,而其果然于1974年爆炸了首个核装置。
   
    报道称,身为陆军退役准将的萨力克与巴基斯坦战略计划局存在密切联系,他回忆称,1998年5月印度在博克兰进行的核试验迫使巴基斯坦进行了自己的核试验,引发了南亚核竞赛。(编译:春风)巴专家称印40年代启动核武器研制远早于中国  2009年12月10日   来源:东方网  




    印度ANI通讯社7日报道,美国布鲁金斯学会客座学者、巴基斯坦军事专家、陆军退役准将纳英·萨力克称,印度是亚洲首个启动核武器项目研制的国家,这显然并非是对中国寻求原子弹做出的反应。相反,印度核武器研究项目要远早于中国。
   
    著有《南亚核威慑起源——巴基斯坦观点》一书的萨力克称,早在上世纪40年代的时候,印度原子科学家霍米·巴巴(Homi Bhabha)便将印度核项目概念化,后又启动了这一项目研制,其进入该领域的时间要远早于中国。
   
    印度独立后不久,印度首任总理尼赫鲁就接受印度科学家霍米·巴巴先生关于在印度发展原子技术的建议,成立了原子能委员会,并且亲自兼任该委员会主席。从20世纪50年代起,印度先后建立了巴巴原子研究中心等一大批原子科学研究和技术开发机构。由于政府高度重视,印度的原子技术获得了十分重要的发展,使印度在原子技术的某些方面处于世界前列。联合国原子能机构也把印度作为发展中国家原子技术人才的培训基地。
   
    萨力克称,印度是亚洲启动核武器研究,进而引发连锁反应的第一个国家。他表示,早在上世纪六十年代的时候,印度就已经建立了重水及燃料后处理厂。到1965年的时候,相关情报评估显示印度将在数年内获得核武器,而其果然于1974年爆炸了首个核装置。
   
    报道称,身为陆军退役准将的萨力克与巴基斯坦战略计划局存在密切联系,他回忆称,1998年5月印度在博克兰进行的核试验迫使巴基斯坦进行了自己的核试验,引发了南亚核竞赛。(编译:春风)
{:yi:}那好像蒋光头在大陆抗战胜利后也有开发核武的计划吧。。{:cha:}
这个?和小白兔比早?他就好意思?
这说明,印度搞核武不是因为中国的威胁,而是出于自己扩张的野心!
支持楼上的观点
40年代?40年代的印度还是殖民地啊。。。1947年才独立。。。
阿三又在自慰了
从yy的时候就开始启动了。符合印度的一贯风格。
搞得早却出得晚,还好意思提啊?:L
再次反证了三哥的科研效率之低下。{:wuyu:}
这算是打三哥脸吗
小三不是说发展核武是因为中国的核威胁吗?怎么在和中国还没有开始实质性冲突的时候就开始搞核武了,这不是想侵略和称霸亚洲的野心是什么。
YYA3
Rainsaga 发表于 2009-12-11 10:42


    恩。。是的。。支持三哥YY下去。。。
a3快成大寒冥国了

1932
Indian physicist Dr. Homi Bhabha wins the Rouse Ball Traveling Fellowship, which he uses to visit and work with physicists Wolfgang Pauli in Zurich and Enrico Fermi in Rome.
—G. Venkataraman, Bhabha and His Magnificent Obsessions (Hyderabad: Universities Press India, 1994), p. 5.

1934
Indian physicist Dr. Homi Bhabha receives an Isaac Newton Studentship which enables him to visit the institutes and laboratories of key European theoretical physicists. During the three-year period of his studentship, he works and studies at Cambridge and also at the Institute of Theoretical Physics in Copenhagen, Denmark with Niels Bohr and James Franck.
—Robert S. Anderson, "Building Scientific Institutions in India: Saha and Bhabha," Occasional Paper No. 11, Centre for Developing-Area Studies, McGill University, Montreal, Canada, 1975, p. 14; Sir John Cockcroft, "Homi Jehangir Bhabha, 1909-1966," pt. 4, Proceedings of the Royal Institution 41, no. 191 (1967) in B.V. Sreekantan, Virendra Singh, and B.M. Udgaoankar, eds. Homi Jehangir Bhabha: Collected Scientific Papers (Bombay: Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, 1985), p. 956.

1942
The British government creates the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) to carry out the science related activities of the Indian government to support the war effort.
—G. Venkataraman, Bhabha and His Magnificent Obsessions (Hyderabad: Universities Press India, 1994), p. 144.

March 1944
Dr. Homi Bhabha writes a grant request to the Sir Dorab Tata Trust to seek funding for the creation of an Indian institute to conduct fundamental research in the nuclear field.
—Sir John Cockcroft, "Homi Jehangir Bhabha, 1909-1966," pt. 4, Proceedings of the Royal Institution 41, no. 191 (1967) in B.V. Sreekantan, Virendra Singh, and B.M. Udgaoankar, eds. Homi Jehangir Bhabha: Collected Scientific Papers (Bombay: Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, 1985), p. 958.

1945
To increase his influence, the Dewan of the princely state of Travancore, C.P. Ramaswamy Iyer, allows the minerals attaché of the US Embassy to survey the region's monazite sands in the hopes of attracting bids from US firms for concessions. These sands are sought by a number of countries, including the United States, because when processed, they yield a number of "rare earth compounds" including thorium. [Note: Prior to the Second World War, these sands had been extracted by the United States, Britain, France and Germany for use in the gas mantle and lamplight industry; however, after the start of the war, the India's War Trade Intelligence Department tightened control for fear that Germany would attempt to refine the sands for thorium. The Indian Atomic Energy Act of 1948 classifies thorium as a source material for atomic energy.]
—Itty Abraham, The Making of the Indian Atomic Bomb (London: Zed Books, 1998), p. 57.

14 April 1945
The Tata Board of Trustees meets to formally consider Dr. H. Bhabha's proposal. The trustees agree to fund the Tata Institute of Fundamental Research (TIFR) with a budget of 80,000 rupees. The Tata Trust determines that responsibility for financing and managing the institute should be balanced between Bombay University and the local government.
—George Perkovich, India's Nuclear Bomb: The Impact on Global Proliferation (Berkeley: University of California Press, 1999), p. 16; G. Venkataraman, Bhabha and His Magnificent Obsessions (Hyderabad: Universities Press India, 1994), p. 114; B.V. Sreekantan, Virendra Singh, and B.M. Udgaoankar, eds. Homi Jehangir Bhabha: Collected Scientific Papers (Bombay: Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, 1985), p. LV.

1 June 1945
Dr. H. Bhabha becomes the first director of the Tata Institute of Fundamental Research (TIFR), which begins operations in Bangalore.
—G. Venkataraman, Bhabha and His Magnificent Obsessions (Hyderabad: Universities Press India, 1994), p. 114.

End of August 1945
The two nuclear bomb explosions in Japan confirm Ramaswamy Iyer's impression of the value of thorium to foreign interests. He informs US minerals attaché Corry of his intension to ban the export of monazite from Travancore, except that which is necessary for "war needs."
—Itty Abraham, The Making of the Indian Atomic Bomb (London: Zed Books, 1998), p. 57.

December 1945
Dr. H. Bhabha moves the Tata Institute of Fundamental Research (TIFR) to Bombay. At this time, the institute is provided with 25,000 rupees from the government of Bombay, 10,000 rupees from the government of India, and 45,000 rupees from the Tata Trust.
—G. Venkataraman, Bhabha and His Magnificent Obsessions (Hyderabad: Universities Press India, 1994), p. 114.

26 June 1946
Leader of the Interim Government Cabinet, Jawaharlal Nehru, delivers a speech in Bombay in which he discusses atomic bombs. He says, "It [is] a very grave responsibility for any country [to use] atomic bombs. A very great responsibility rests with the United States. It justified the use of [the] atomic bomb on the ground that it stopped [the] war, but by unleashing such a weapon, it [has] created a dangerous situation. The atomic bomb brought a measure of hope also. Faced with such a destructive weapon, people might wake up . . . [As] long as the world [is] constituted as it [is], every country [will] have to devise and use the latest scientific devices for its protection. [I have] no doubt that India [will] develop her scientific researches and [I hope] Indian scientists [will] use the atomic force for constructive purposes. But if India [is] threatened, she [will] inevitably try to defend herself by all means at her disposal. [I hope] India, in common with other countries, [will] prevent the use of atomic bombs."
—Dorothy Norman, ed., Nehru: The First 60 Years, vol. 2 (New York: John Day, 1965), p. 264.

1946
The Indian government forms the Atomic Energy Research Committee with Dr. H. Bhabha as its Chairman. This committee functions as part of the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) and focuses on promoting education in nuclear physics in Indian colleges and universities. Dr. H. Bhabha uses his position with this organization to consolidate his political position and advise Interim Government Cabinet leader Jawaharlal Nehru more closely on matters related to atomic energy.
—G. Venkataraman, Bhabha and His Magnificent Obsessions (Hyderabad: Universities Press India, 1994), p. 145.

1946
The Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) provides the Tata Institute of Fundamental Research (TIFR) with 75,000 rupees.
—Itty Abraham, The Making of the Indian Atomic Bomb (London: Zed Books, 1998), p. 67.

1946
During the debate on the Baruch Plan in the United Nations, India resists the idea of international ownership of fissile ores such as uranium and thorium. The leader of the Indian delegation to the General Assembly, Ms. Vijaylakshmi Pandit, argues that such control would deprive India of an important economic asset in the future. In general, India supports the principle of ensuring that nuclear materials and capabilities will be used only for peaceful purposes, but resists any measures that would allow some states to retain nuclear weapons while denying others the full freedom to use their resources as they see fit. [Note: Under the Baruch Plan, proposed in mid-1946 by the United States, all nuclear resources would be internationally owned and managed. Under this plan, the United States would give up its nuclear weapons program only after all other states had placed their nuclear programs under international control.]
—Shyam Bhatia, India's Nuclear Bomb (Ghaziabad: Vikas, 1979), p. 43; Center for Nonproliferation Studies, "Treaty on the Nonproliferation of Nuclear Weapons: History," NPT Tutorial, <http://cnsdl.miis.edu/npt/npt_3/history.htm>.

May 1946
The Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) expresses its support for Iyer's ban on the export of its monazite sands. In a press release, the Board of Atomic Energy notes its appreciation for "the measures being taken in Travancore to preserve the nation's national resources."
—Itty Abraham, The Making of the Indian Atomic Bomb (London: Zed Books, 1998), p. 58.

1946
Prime Minister Nehru writes a series of notes to the Cabinet and other state agencies to prevent the export of "atomic material," including the monazite sands.
—Itty Abraham, The Making of the Indian Atomic Bomb (London: Zed Books, 1998), p. 58.

1946
Prime Minister Nehru nominates Dr. H. Bhabha as the scientific adviser to the Indian government. In effect, this decision acknowledges Dr. H. Bhabha as the national expert on atomic energy.
—Itty Abraham, The Making of the Indian Atomic Bomb (London: Zed Books, 1998), p. 58.

April 1948
Dr. H. Bhabha writes a note entitled Organisation of Atomic Research in India to Prime Minister Nehru, in which he expresses his view that "the development of atomic energy should be entrusted to a very small and high powered body composed of say, three people with executive power, and answerable directly to the Prime Minister without any intervening link. For brevity, this body may be referred to as the Atomic Energy Commission." Dr. H. Bhabha also indicates his opinion that the existing Board of Research on Atomic Energy is not an appropriate body to manage such matters because it must report to the 28-member Governing Body of the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR), which would compromise its ability to maintain confidentiality. In addition, Dr. H. Bhabha recommends that the Board of Research on Atomic Energy be abolished when the AEC is formed. He then requests approximately 10 million rupees for the Commission to use over the next four years, permission from the Prime Minister to continue negotiations with Britain, France, and Norway under complete secrecy, and permission to prepare bilateral agreements with each country, which would be submitted to the Indian government upon completion.
—G. Venkataraman, Bhabha and His Magnificent Obsessions (Hyderabad: Universities Press India, 1994), pp. 145-146; Itty Abraham, The Making of the Indian Atomic Bomb (London: Zed Books, 1998), p. 60.

April 1948
The Indian government assumes direct responsibility for the atomic energy sector. Prime Minister Nehru introduces the Atomic Energy Act before India's Constituent Assembly to create an Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) and the legal framework for its operation. The act, modeled on Britain's Atomic Energy Act, calls for research and development of atomic energy in "complete secrecy." It establishes government ownership of all pertinent raw materials, particularly uranium and thorium. In the ensuing legislative debate over the level of secrecy, Nehru argues that secrecy is necessary to protect Indian materials and "know-how" from exploitation by the industrialized countries and to assure the United States and United Kingdom that if they cooperate with India in this field, their secrets would be protected. In response to parliamentarian S.V. Krishnamurthy Rao's criticism that "secrecy in the UK [United Kingdom] is restricted only for defense purposes," Nehru responds, "I do not know how you are to distinguish between the [defense and atomic energy purposes]." Nehru further states, "If we are to remain abreast in the world as a nation which keeps ahead of things, we must develop this atomic energy quite apart from war—indeed I think we must develop it for the purpose of using it for peaceful purposes....Of course, if we are compelled as a nation to use it for other purposes, possibly no pious sentiments of any of us will stop the nation from using it that way. But I do hope that our outlook in regard to this atomic energy is going to be a peaceful one for the development of human life and happiness and not one of war and hatred."
—Constituent Assembly of India (Legislative Debates), 2d sess., vol. 5, April 6, 1948, pp. 3315, 3328, 3333-34, cited in George Perkovich, India's Nuclear Bomb: The Impact on Global Proliferation (Berkeley: University of California Press, 1999), p. 18.

7 April 1948
The Board of Research on Atomic Energy of the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) holds a meeting and passes resolutions to encourage the government to establish a nuclear reactor, to allocate 8 million rupees for research and capital equipment, and to establish heavy water capabilities.
—Itty Abraham, The Making of the Indian Atomic Bomb (London: Zed Books, 1998), p. 60.

May 1948
Prime Minister Nehru writes a note to his Cabinet to authorize the 10 million rupees requested by Dr. H. Bhabha in April. Nehru agrees with Dr. H. Bhabha's arguments and writes that "any consideration of this matter involves a discussion of highly technical processes, many of which are secret." He goes on to explain that atomic research will have a significant social and industrial value and that working in cooperation with other countries would be necessary. He suggests establishing a heavy water plant and, echoing the wishes of Dr. H. Bhabha, he recommends that the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) should be "a small, high-powered body" that reports directly to his office.
—Itty Abraham, The Making of the Indian Atomic Bomb, (London: Zed Books, 1998), p. 60.

16 July 1948
India's Ministry of Defense (MOD) creates the Scientific Advisory Committee with Dr. H. Bhabha, Dr. S.S. Bhatnagar, and Dr. K.S. Krishnan as its members. This Committee is later renamed the Defence Science Advisory Board.
—Itty Abraham, The Making of the Indian Atomic Bomb (London: Zed Books, 1998), p. 61.

15 August 1948
Pursuant to the Atomic Energy Act, the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) is established. The Department of Scientific Research is responsible for both the Atomic Energy Research Committee and the AEC. The three-member AEC is composed of the same members as the Scientific Advisory Committee: Dr. H. Bhabha, Dr. K.S. Krishnan, and the director-general of CSIR, Dr. S.S. Bhatnagar. The AEC is placed under the "direct personal oversight" of the prime minister.
—Itty Abraham, The Making of the Indian Atomic Bomb (London: Zed Books, 1998), p. 61.

23 March 1949
Responding to questions about nuclear research posed in the Indian parliament, Prime Minister Nehru states "We are not thinking in terms of atomic bombs. We are thinking in terms of processing various minerals out of which atomic energy comes. Probably we shall be subjecting these minerals to this processing and use the energy for research work."
—Shyam Bhatia, India's Nuclear Bomb (Ghaziabad: Vikas, 1979), p. 89.

1949
The Indian permanent representative to the United Nations, Sir Benegal Rau, is appointed to chair an 11-member sub-committee tasked with designing a compromise proposal to restrict the spread of nuclear weapons. The plan devised by Sir Benegal's ad hoc committee proposes that the General Assembly call upon the International Law Commission to formulate a draft declaration on conduct in regard to nuclear energy development to promote peaceful uses and to eliminate nuclear weapons from national arsenals.
—Shyam Bhatia, India's Nuclear Bomb (Ghaziabad: Vikas, 1979), p. 45.

1949
Rare Earths Limited, a joint-venture company financed by the India's federal government and the government of the state of Travancore-Cochin, enters into contracts with two French firms, the Societe de Produits Chimique and the Banque Marocaine de Credit, for the construction of a facility at Alwaye, Travancore to extract thorium from the monazite sands that abound in that region. Dr. H. Bhabha receives a nomination to the company's board of directors.
—Shyam Bhatia, India's Nuclear Bomb (Ghaziabad: Vikas, 1979), p. 87.


  1932年到1949年间印度与核能/核武器有关的活动。印度学者从很早开始关注原子能,并且印度(临时)政府也从40年代中期起对核能发电有着浓厚兴趣,但坚持反对核武器,直到中印边界战争的失利及两年后中国拥有核武器,然后在70年代初得到巴基斯坦也有意发展核武器的情报。

  顶楼新闻中,关于印度40年代时开启核项目的说法没有问题,但并不是核武器。因此这个新闻标题很误导。
1932
Indian physicist Dr. Homi Bhabha wins the Rouse Ball Traveling Fellowship, which he uses to visit and work with physicists Wolfgang Pauli in Zurich and Enrico Fermi in Rome.
—G. Venkataraman, Bhabha and His Magnificent Obsessions (Hyderabad: Universities Press India, 1994), p. 5.

1934
Indian physicist Dr. Homi Bhabha receives an Isaac Newton Studentship which enables him to visit the institutes and laboratories of key European theoretical physicists. During the three-year period of his studentship, he works and studies at Cambridge and also at the Institute of Theoretical Physics in Copenhagen, Denmark with Niels Bohr and James Franck.
—Robert S. Anderson, "Building Scientific Institutions in India: Saha and Bhabha," Occasional Paper No. 11, Centre for Developing-Area Studies, McGill University, Montreal, Canada, 1975, p. 14; Sir John Cockcroft, "Homi Jehangir Bhabha, 1909-1966," pt. 4, Proceedings of the Royal Institution 41, no. 191 (1967) in B.V. Sreekantan, Virendra Singh, and B.M. Udgaoankar, eds. Homi Jehangir Bhabha: Collected Scientific Papers (Bombay: Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, 1985), p. 956.

1942
The British government creates the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) to carry out the science related activities of the Indian government to support the war effort.
—G. Venkataraman, Bhabha and His Magnificent Obsessions (Hyderabad: Universities Press India, 1994), p. 144.

March 1944
Dr. Homi Bhabha writes a grant request to the Sir Dorab Tata Trust to seek funding for the creation of an Indian institute to conduct fundamental research in the nuclear field.
—Sir John Cockcroft, "Homi Jehangir Bhabha, 1909-1966," pt. 4, Proceedings of the Royal Institution 41, no. 191 (1967) in B.V. Sreekantan, Virendra Singh, and B.M. Udgaoankar, eds. Homi Jehangir Bhabha: Collected Scientific Papers (Bombay: Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, 1985), p. 958.

1945
To increase his influence, the Dewan of the princely state of Travancore, C.P. Ramaswamy Iyer, allows the minerals attaché of the US Embassy to survey the region's monazite sands in the hopes of attracting bids from US firms for concessions. These sands are sought by a number of countries, including the United States, because when processed, they yield a number of "rare earth compounds" including thorium. [Note: Prior to the Second World War, these sands had been extracted by the United States, Britain, France and Germany for use in the gas mantle and lamplight industry; however, after the start of the war, the India's War Trade Intelligence Department tightened control for fear that Germany would attempt to refine the sands for thorium. The Indian Atomic Energy Act of 1948 classifies thorium as a source material for atomic energy.]
—Itty Abraham, The Making of the Indian Atomic Bomb (London: Zed Books, 1998), p. 57.

14 April 1945
The Tata Board of Trustees meets to formally consider Dr. H. Bhabha's proposal. The trustees agree to fund the Tata Institute of Fundamental Research (TIFR) with a budget of 80,000 rupees. The Tata Trust determines that responsibility for financing and managing the institute should be balanced between Bombay University and the local government.
—George Perkovich, India's Nuclear Bomb: The Impact on Global Proliferation (Berkeley: University of California Press, 1999), p. 16; G. Venkataraman, Bhabha and His Magnificent Obsessions (Hyderabad: Universities Press India, 1994), p. 114; B.V. Sreekantan, Virendra Singh, and B.M. Udgaoankar, eds. Homi Jehangir Bhabha: Collected Scientific Papers (Bombay: Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, 1985), p. LV.

1 June 1945
Dr. H. Bhabha becomes the first director of the Tata Institute of Fundamental Research (TIFR), which begins operations in Bangalore.
—G. Venkataraman, Bhabha and His Magnificent Obsessions (Hyderabad: Universities Press India, 1994), p. 114.

End of August 1945
The two nuclear bomb explosions in Japan confirm Ramaswamy Iyer's impression of the value of thorium to foreign interests. He informs US minerals attaché Corry of his intension to ban the export of monazite from Travancore, except that which is necessary for "war needs."
—Itty Abraham, The Making of the Indian Atomic Bomb (London: Zed Books, 1998), p. 57.

December 1945
Dr. H. Bhabha moves the Tata Institute of Fundamental Research (TIFR) to Bombay. At this time, the institute is provided with 25,000 rupees from the government of Bombay, 10,000 rupees from the government of India, and 45,000 rupees from the Tata Trust.
—G. Venkataraman, Bhabha and His Magnificent Obsessions (Hyderabad: Universities Press India, 1994), p. 114.

26 June 1946
Leader of the Interim Government Cabinet, Jawaharlal Nehru, delivers a speech in Bombay in which he discusses atomic bombs. He says, "It [is] a very grave responsibility for any country [to use] atomic bombs. A very great responsibility rests with the United States. It justified the use of [the] atomic bomb on the ground that it stopped [the] war, but by unleashing such a weapon, it [has] created a dangerous situation. The atomic bomb brought a measure of hope also. Faced with such a destructive weapon, people might wake up . . . [As] long as the world [is] constituted as it [is], every country [will] have to devise and use the latest scientific devices for its protection. [I have] no doubt that India [will] develop her scientific researches and [I hope] Indian scientists [will] use the atomic force for constructive purposes. But if India [is] threatened, she [will] inevitably try to defend herself by all means at her disposal. [I hope] India, in common with other countries, [will] prevent the use of atomic bombs."
—Dorothy Norman, ed., Nehru: The First 60 Years, vol. 2 (New York: John Day, 1965), p. 264.

1946
The Indian government forms the Atomic Energy Research Committee with Dr. H. Bhabha as its Chairman. This committee functions as part of the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) and focuses on promoting education in nuclear physics in Indian colleges and universities. Dr. H. Bhabha uses his position with this organization to consolidate his political position and advise Interim Government Cabinet leader Jawaharlal Nehru more closely on matters related to atomic energy.
—G. Venkataraman, Bhabha and His Magnificent Obsessions (Hyderabad: Universities Press India, 1994), p. 145.

1946
The Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) provides the Tata Institute of Fundamental Research (TIFR) with 75,000 rupees.
—Itty Abraham, The Making of the Indian Atomic Bomb (London: Zed Books, 1998), p. 67.

1946
During the debate on the Baruch Plan in the United Nations, India resists the idea of international ownership of fissile ores such as uranium and thorium. The leader of the Indian delegation to the General Assembly, Ms. Vijaylakshmi Pandit, argues that such control would deprive India of an important economic asset in the future. In general, India supports the principle of ensuring that nuclear materials and capabilities will be used only for peaceful purposes, but resists any measures that would allow some states to retain nuclear weapons while denying others the full freedom to use their resources as they see fit. [Note: Under the Baruch Plan, proposed in mid-1946 by the United States, all nuclear resources would be internationally owned and managed. Under this plan, the United States would give up its nuclear weapons program only after all other states had placed their nuclear programs under international control.]
—Shyam Bhatia, India's Nuclear Bomb (Ghaziabad: Vikas, 1979), p. 43; Center for Nonproliferation Studies, "Treaty on the Nonproliferation of Nuclear Weapons: History," NPT Tutorial, <http://cnsdl.miis.edu/npt/npt_3/history.htm>.

May 1946
The Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) expresses its support for Iyer's ban on the export of its monazite sands. In a press release, the Board of Atomic Energy notes its appreciation for "the measures being taken in Travancore to preserve the nation's national resources."
—Itty Abraham, The Making of the Indian Atomic Bomb (London: Zed Books, 1998), p. 58.

1946
Prime Minister Nehru writes a series of notes to the Cabinet and other state agencies to prevent the export of "atomic material," including the monazite sands.
—Itty Abraham, The Making of the Indian Atomic Bomb (London: Zed Books, 1998), p. 58.

1946
Prime Minister Nehru nominates Dr. H. Bhabha as the scientific adviser to the Indian government. In effect, this decision acknowledges Dr. H. Bhabha as the national expert on atomic energy.
—Itty Abraham, The Making of the Indian Atomic Bomb (London: Zed Books, 1998), p. 58.

April 1948
Dr. H. Bhabha writes a note entitled Organisation of Atomic Research in India to Prime Minister Nehru, in which he expresses his view that "the development of atomic energy should be entrusted to a very small and high powered body composed of say, three people with executive power, and answerable directly to the Prime Minister without any intervening link. For brevity, this body may be referred to as the Atomic Energy Commission." Dr. H. Bhabha also indicates his opinion that the existing Board of Research on Atomic Energy is not an appropriate body to manage such matters because it must report to the 28-member Governing Body of the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR), which would compromise its ability to maintain confidentiality. In addition, Dr. H. Bhabha recommends that the Board of Research on Atomic Energy be abolished when the AEC is formed. He then requests approximately 10 million rupees for the Commission to use over the next four years, permission from the Prime Minister to continue negotiations with Britain, France, and Norway under complete secrecy, and permission to prepare bilateral agreements with each country, which would be submitted to the Indian government upon completion.
—G. Venkataraman, Bhabha and His Magnificent Obsessions (Hyderabad: Universities Press India, 1994), pp. 145-146; Itty Abraham, The Making of the Indian Atomic Bomb (London: Zed Books, 1998), p. 60.

April 1948
The Indian government assumes direct responsibility for the atomic energy sector. Prime Minister Nehru introduces the Atomic Energy Act before India's Constituent Assembly to create an Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) and the legal framework for its operation. The act, modeled on Britain's Atomic Energy Act, calls for research and development of atomic energy in "complete secrecy." It establishes government ownership of all pertinent raw materials, particularly uranium and thorium. In the ensuing legislative debate over the level of secrecy, Nehru argues that secrecy is necessary to protect Indian materials and "know-how" from exploitation by the industrialized countries and to assure the United States and United Kingdom that if they cooperate with India in this field, their secrets would be protected. In response to parliamentarian S.V. Krishnamurthy Rao's criticism that "secrecy in the UK [United Kingdom] is restricted only for defense purposes," Nehru responds, "I do not know how you are to distinguish between the [defense and atomic energy purposes]." Nehru further states, "If we are to remain abreast in the world as a nation which keeps ahead of things, we must develop this atomic energy quite apart from war—indeed I think we must develop it for the purpose of using it for peaceful purposes....Of course, if we are compelled as a nation to use it for other purposes, possibly no pious sentiments of any of us will stop the nation from using it that way. But I do hope that our outlook in regard to this atomic energy is going to be a peaceful one for the development of human life and happiness and not one of war and hatred."
—Constituent Assembly of India (Legislative Debates), 2d sess., vol. 5, April 6, 1948, pp. 3315, 3328, 3333-34, cited in George Perkovich, India's Nuclear Bomb: The Impact on Global Proliferation (Berkeley: University of California Press, 1999), p. 18.

7 April 1948
The Board of Research on Atomic Energy of the Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) holds a meeting and passes resolutions to encourage the government to establish a nuclear reactor, to allocate 8 million rupees for research and capital equipment, and to establish heavy water capabilities.
—Itty Abraham, The Making of the Indian Atomic Bomb (London: Zed Books, 1998), p. 60.

May 1948
Prime Minister Nehru writes a note to his Cabinet to authorize the 10 million rupees requested by Dr. H. Bhabha in April. Nehru agrees with Dr. H. Bhabha's arguments and writes that "any consideration of this matter involves a discussion of highly technical processes, many of which are secret." He goes on to explain that atomic research will have a significant social and industrial value and that working in cooperation with other countries would be necessary. He suggests establishing a heavy water plant and, echoing the wishes of Dr. H. Bhabha, he recommends that the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) should be "a small, high-powered body" that reports directly to his office.
—Itty Abraham, The Making of the Indian Atomic Bomb, (London: Zed Books, 1998), p. 60.

16 July 1948
India's Ministry of Defense (MOD) creates the Scientific Advisory Committee with Dr. H. Bhabha, Dr. S.S. Bhatnagar, and Dr. K.S. Krishnan as its members. This Committee is later renamed the Defence Science Advisory Board.
—Itty Abraham, The Making of the Indian Atomic Bomb (London: Zed Books, 1998), p. 61.

15 August 1948
Pursuant to the Atomic Energy Act, the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) is established. The Department of Scientific Research is responsible for both the Atomic Energy Research Committee and the AEC. The three-member AEC is composed of the same members as the Scientific Advisory Committee: Dr. H. Bhabha, Dr. K.S. Krishnan, and the director-general of CSIR, Dr. S.S. Bhatnagar. The AEC is placed under the "direct personal oversight" of the prime minister.
—Itty Abraham, The Making of the Indian Atomic Bomb (London: Zed Books, 1998), p. 61.

23 March 1949
Responding to questions about nuclear research posed in the Indian parliament, Prime Minister Nehru states "We are not thinking in terms of atomic bombs. We are thinking in terms of processing various minerals out of which atomic energy comes. Probably we shall be subjecting these minerals to this processing and use the energy for research work."
—Shyam Bhatia, India's Nuclear Bomb (Ghaziabad: Vikas, 1979), p. 89.

1949
The Indian permanent representative to the United Nations, Sir Benegal Rau, is appointed to chair an 11-member sub-committee tasked with designing a compromise proposal to restrict the spread of nuclear weapons. The plan devised by Sir Benegal's ad hoc committee proposes that the General Assembly call upon the International Law Commission to formulate a draft declaration on conduct in regard to nuclear energy development to promote peaceful uses and to eliminate nuclear weapons from national arsenals.
—Shyam Bhatia, India's Nuclear Bomb (Ghaziabad: Vikas, 1979), p. 45.

1949
Rare Earths Limited, a joint-venture company financed by the India's federal government and the government of the state of Travancore-Cochin, enters into contracts with two French firms, the Societe de Produits Chimique and the Banque Marocaine de Credit, for the construction of a facility at Alwaye, Travancore to extract thorium from the monazite sands that abound in that region. Dr. H. Bhabha receives a nomination to the company's board of directors.
—Shyam Bhatia, India's Nuclear Bomb (Ghaziabad: Vikas, 1979), p. 87.


  1932年到1949年间印度与核能/核武器有关的活动。印度学者从很早开始关注原子能,并且印度(临时)政府也从40年代中期起对核能发电有着浓厚兴趣,但坚持反对核武器,直到中印边界战争的失利及两年后中国拥有核武器,然后在70年代初得到巴基斯坦也有意发展核武器的情报。

  顶楼新闻中,关于印度40年代时开启核项目的说法没有问题,但并不是核武器。因此这个新闻标题很误导。
印度当时还在英国手里,所以如果“临时政府”能搞核武器研制,英国就一定能而且会领先于印度。
话说英国核武器发展历史,谁能科普下?
其实也是比较合理的判断,当时只要是过得去的国家,都或多或少有这个意思,包括当年的蒋介石政权
丙辰之龙 发表于 2009-12-11 20:52
蒋介石只提供了10万法币做研究……
在中国核爆之前,美国有意提供现成的技术,让印度抢在中国之前核爆,目的是打压中国,让印度成为亚洲第一个核爆的,但最后印度还是拒绝了。
如果在神油国卖充气娃娃,应该是个很不错的发财门道。:D
ZZY458 发表于 2009-12-11 23:26
动脑筋想想有这个可能吗?{:3_98:}
回复 20# ZZY458
你怎么不说是给台湾呢?太没有责任心了,扁教主是怎么教导你们的。
ZZY458 发表于 2009-12-11 23:26
  很不符合逻辑。印度是偏向苏联那一边的,而且因为Diego Garcia基地的问题,印美关系在60年代很紧张(印度曾经想过要空降Diego Garcia)。此外在70年代印度核试验后,西方也一致谴责其打破南亚次大陆无核化。
印度就是个大茶几,上面除了摆着杯具和餐具,还摆着厚厚一摞各种独步全球的计划书
ZZY458 发表于 2009-12-11 23:26

在上世纪50年代初期印度就有了自己的核武器装置.但是美国在判断印度核装置爆炸不可避免的情况下,给了当时最先进的核武器的技术.但是就是这个技术使印度走了几十年的弯路,直到1974年才引爆了自己第一枚核武器装置.
A3说他(或被说)如何先进不重要
常凯申抗战后就想整呢
king4591 发表于 2009-12-12 00:48


    自己去查资料,美国给印度先进核技术是真事,目的就是要印度抢在中国之前核爆,没搞清楚之前不要乱扣帽子
halfman 发表于 2009-12-12 00:34

回答同上
有什么奇怪的呢,印度有的永远只是一个计划


印度40年代有人开始接触核物理。但是当时印度还没独立,核计划还早了吧???

而且计划早有毛用,最后不还是晚了中国8年嘛??晚了这么几年,没赶上最后一批合法有核国家的末班车,最后72年弄了个“用于和平目的的核装置爆炸”,简直笑死人了。最后到1998年才敢大规模核爆炸。

印度40年代有人开始接触核物理。但是当时印度还没独立,核计划还早了吧???

而且计划早有毛用,最后不还是晚了中国8年嘛??晚了这么几年,没赶上最后一批合法有核国家的末班车,最后72年弄了个“用于和平目的的核装置爆炸”,简直笑死人了。最后到1998年才敢大规模核爆炸。
钛豌豆 发表于 2009-12-12 17:52
50年代初?英国第一颗原子弹也就1951年,说殖民地原子弹和宗主国一样快,蒙鬼呢?
印度第一座反应堆都是1958年才建成,50年代初的核武器........
现在印度有原子弹,没氢弹,助爆原子弹有没有不确定,总体核武器水平大概相当于美国40年代后期吧。给大家科普科普,到底当年美国给了印度啥先进技术啊?
印度只有在宝莱坞的电影里才能实现这种YY
這個牛確實吹大了
回复 29# ZZY458


    给个资料先
巴专家称印40年代启动核武器研制远早于中国  2009年12月10日   来源:东方网  




    印度ANI通讯社7日报道,美国布鲁金斯学会客座学者、巴基斯坦军事专家、陆军退役准将纳英·萨力克称,印度是亚洲首个启动核武器项目研制的国家,这显然并非是对中国寻求原子弹做出的反应。相反,印度核武器研究项目要远早于中国。
   
    著有《南亚核威慑起源——巴基斯坦观点》一书的萨力克称,早在上世纪40年代的时候,印度原子科学家霍米·巴巴(Homi Bhabha)便将印度核项目概念化,后又启动了这一项目研制,其进入该领域的时间要远早于中国。
   
    印度独立后不久,印度首任总理尼赫鲁就接受印度科学家霍米·巴巴先生关于在印度发展原子技术的建议,成立了原子能委员会,并且亲自兼任该委员会主席。从20世纪50年代起,印度先后建立了巴巴原子研究中心等一大批原子科学研究和技术开发机构。由于政府高度重视,印度的原子技术获得了十分重要的发展,使印度在原子技术的某些方面处于世界前列。联合国原子能机构也把印度作为发展中国家原子技术人才的培训基地。
   
    萨力克称,印度是亚洲启动核武器研究,进而引发连锁反应的第一个国家。他表示,早在上世纪六十年代的时候,印度就已经建立了重水及燃料后处理厂。到1965年的时候,相关情报评估显示印度将在数年内获得核武器,而其果然于1974年爆炸了首个核装置。
   
    报道称,身为陆军退役准将的萨力克与巴基斯坦战略计划局存在密切联系,他回忆称,1998年5月印度在博克兰进行的核试验迫使巴基斯坦进行了自己的核试验,引发了南亚核竞赛。(编译:春风)


这说明,民主国家做决策比较慢,但是一旦决策了,行动起来就很快
r626 发表于 2009-12-15 16:02


    没看出它们哪里快了,别睁眼说瞎话
每次看到这些YY文都想笑.
这种程度的探讨不算“启动”项目吧。