印度称烈火5导弹射程5千公里能打到中国哈尔滨

40米？这精度可够高的

有骆驼不吹牛，A3就吹牛B吧！

烈火3过鸟关再说吧。。。。。

全然没有意义的宣传。
当年美苏几千枚实打实的正宗洲际弹道导弹瞄着也不怕，
现在还没有成型的型号拿来吓人——
反过来说，TG30年来实际拥有的弹道导弹也没有真正吓到YD，
YD凭啥认为纸上导弹能吓到TG？

吓人来的吧，真的好怕怕

烈火四哪去了？

wi0001 发表于 2009-10-13 12:37
可能是a3认为4这个数字不吉利，直接跳过:D

出处在此。http://www.business-standard.com ... lobal-reach/372986/

Road mobility gives Agni-5 global reach

Ajai Shukla / Hyderabad October 12, 2009, 0:18 IST



The Advanced Systems Laboratory (ASL) in Hyderabad, which develops India’s strategic (long-range, nuclear-tipped) missiles, has dramatically increased the options for its forthcoming Agni-5 missile by making it highly road-mobile, or easily transportable by road.

That enables the Agni-5 to reach targets far beyond its stated 5,000-km range by quickly moving closer to the target. In a hypothetical war against, say, Sweden, an Agni-5 launcher, stationed near Bangalore, would be unable to strike Stockholm, 7,000 km away. But moving by road to Amritsar would bring Stockholm within range.

Similarly, moving the Agni-5 to northeast India would bring even Harbin, China’s northernmost city, within striking range. From various places across India, the Agni-5 can reach every continent except North and South America.

The Agni-5 will be the first canisterised, road-mobile missile in India’s arsenal, similar to the Dongfeng-31A that created ripples during China’s National Day Military Parade in Beijing on October 1. India’s current long-range missile, the Agni-3, a non-canisterised missile, can only be moved with difficulty from one place to another.

In many other respects, the Agni-5, which is scheduled to make its first flight in early-2011, carries forward the Agni-3 pedigree. With composites used extensively to reduce weight, and a third stage added on (the Agni-3 was a two-stage missile), the Agni-5 can fly 1,500 km further than the 3,500-km Agni-3.

“The Agni-5 is specially tailored for road-mobility,” explains Avinash Chander, Director, ASL. “With the canister having been successfully developed, all India’s future land-based strategic missiles will be canisterised as well”.

Made of maraging steel, a canister must provide a hermitically sealed atmosphere that preserves the missile for years. During firing, the canister must absorb enormous stresses when a thrust of 300to 400 tonnes is generated to eject the 50-tonne missile.

Canister technology was first developed in India for the Brahmos cruise missile. But it was the K-15 underwater-launched missile, developed here in Hyderabad for India’s nuclear-powered submarine, INS Arihant, which fully overcame the technological hurdles in canisterising ballistic missiles.

Another major technological breakthrough that will beef up the Agni-5 is ASL’s success in developing and testing MIRVs (multiple independently targetable re-entry vehicles). An MIRV, atop an Agni-5 missile, comprises three to 10 separate nuclear warheads. Each warhead can be assigned to a separate target, separated by hundreds of kilometres; alternatively, two or more warheads can be assigned to one target.

“We have made major progress on the MIRVs in the last two years,” is all that Avinash Chander is willing to say on the subject.

Nevertheless, extensive testing still lies ahead for this highly complex technology. MIRVs will be deployed on the Agni-5 only after another 4-5 years.

While MIRV technology is similar to launching multiple satellites through a space rocket, a missile requires far greater accuracy. A satellite would be considered in correct orbit even it is a kilometre higher or lower than planned.

But each warhead in an MIRV must impact within 40 metres of its target. With such high accuracies, even small nuclear warheads are sufficient for the job.

Strategic planners consider MIRVs essential, given India’s declared “no first use” nuclear policy. Even after an enemy has hit India with a full-fledged nuclear strike, destroying or incapacitating much of the strategic arsenal, a handful of surviving Indian missiles must be capable of retaliating with massive and unacceptable damage. Multiple warheads on a handful of Agni-5 missiles would constitute such a capability.

MIRVs also enable a single missile to overwhelm the enemy’s missile defences. Tracking and shooting down multiple warheads are far more difficult than intercepting a single warhead.

Providing each warhead with the capability to manoeuvre, and dodge enemy interceptor missiles, increases survivability further. The MIRV warheads are also being given electronic packages for jamming enemy radars.



实际上都是老调子了，去年就有Agni5的相关消息。



























http://syedakbarindia.blogspot.c ... m-range-agni-5.html

Saturday, May 10, 2008
Agni-5: India plans 5000 km range Agni-5 missile

May 10, 2008
By Syed Akbar
Hyderabad, May 9: India has already attained the capability of developing missiles, which could hit targets beyond 5000 km range, according to Avinash Chander, programme director of Agni missile system.
Avinash Chander, who is also the director of Advanced Systems Laboratory that developed the Agni components, said his lab would now take up the design of the new missile system. "We have the capability of making 5000 km range missiles, but we have to make the designs first. The designing part will be over in two year's time," he said.
Interacting with a select group of reporters here on Friday after the successful test-fire of Agni-3 missile earlier this week, Avinash Chander said the next programme would be Agni-5. There's no need for Agni-4 as it's just an upgradation of the existing Agni-3. "We are looking forward to developing Agni-5 missiles with multiple warheads.
The present missile system carries only one warhead. The advanced stage of Agni-5 will be capable of carrying three warheads that could hit the given target or the set of different targets with precision," he pointed out.
The Agni-3 missile has filled the vital gaps in India's defence capability while Agni-5 will take it a step further. "We are on par with the European nations and China when it comes to possession of missile system capability. Only the USA is ahead of us," he claimed.
The development of Agni-5 will put India on an advantageous position in the region as it could hit any target within the geopolitical system. Only the USA, Russia, France and China have missiles beyond the 3,000 km range. India has
joined the select club with the successful test-firing of Agni-3, which has a range of about 3,500 km. "The Agni-5 technology will be totally indigenous," Avinash Chander said.
Referring to Agni-3, he said it has a state-of-the-art inertial guidance, highly accurate sensors with high immunity from jamming. The ASL is also working on new
warhead technologies that could be used for Agni-3 and Agni-5. The warheads will be capable of hitting the given targets piercing through the anti-ballistic missile defence system of the enemy. They are capable of fooling the radar system.
There will be decoy warheads which will be fired along with the genuine ones. The idea is to divert the attention of the enemy's defence system. The enemy will lose its anti-ballistic missiles firing at the decoy warheads while the real warheads will hit the targets, destroying the enemy's capability. The warheads will also pass through the atmosphere dodging the enemy's missiles.

canistered 然后在放在六轴的整体式底盘越野车上............还是可以的

烈火1据说都才勉强装备,烈火2\3搞清楚没有?还烈火5呢,还十个弹头,A3造得出这样小的弹头吗?A3的单弹头能否进入实用都还值得怀疑,40米的精度,怕MD都未必做得到.

烈火1据说都才勉强装备,烈火2\3搞清楚没有?还烈火5呢,还十个弹头,A3造得出这样小的弹头吗?A3的单弹头能否进入实用都还值得怀疑,40米的精度,怕MD都未必做得到.

有人帮忙滴，

像他们的火箭一样...............

我很喜欢a3，没出来先说说。不像TG半天憋出什么东西来我们也别想知道！

俄毛的白杨M才一个弹头350米的精度，纸上的烈火5还10个弹头40米精度，比美国都先进了。
印度《商业标准报》应该去搞清楚烈火2和烈火3到底要什么时候才能开始生产。

cczoz 发表于 2009-10-13 18:15

烈火2先量产再说3，然后才是5

cczoz 发表于 2009-10-13 18:15

CEP=350米应该是SS-25，白杨M SS-27采用毫米波雷达导引头末制导，CEP降低到60米。

但阿三在另外一个网站里给出过烈火-3打8000公里，CEP=16米的惊世骇俗说法。

呵呵！老印不像共鳖那样四面八方全世界都是敌人，搞个三四千公里升级版MIRVed Agni-3就足以有效和致命打击天朝全境了，而且至少在三十年之内天朝都不会具备拦截这种导弹的能力！

吹牛不上税。

楼上果然名副其实，说谎都不带脸红的;P。还是多关心一下美国干爹的安全吧:D。

饕餮天吃星 发表于 2009-10-13 19:56
对白杨M有60米精度持保留态度，MX和平卫士和三叉戟D5的精度也不过在100米左右，
而ICBM用可以被外界干扰的毫米波末制导可能性很小。
至于烈火-3的射程应该在3000公里左右，还很不成熟，离装备部署还很远。CEP精度可能
都不是用米来计算。

cczoz 发表于 2009-10-13 20:14
Agni-3是个系列，终结版的可达4000公里以上！呵呵，至于SS-27那个所谓的60M精度纯粹笑话而已！

cczoz 发表于 2009-10-13 20:14
D5是120米左右，赶不上MX，天文引导精度还是赶不上纯惯性
实际上MX已经是极限水平，就算再提高陀螺仪的精度，也很难更高了，而且这个90米还是理想状态
要想进一步提高，就只能加上末引导了
白杨M的话，实际上算是准末引导，还真就是用雷达来瞄准的
不过瞄准只在大气层外，进入大气层之前会抛掉雷达，所以只能算准末引导，还不是真正的全程末引导
就理论上讲，白杨M确实有可能超过MX的精度

烈火7就是7000公里吧？

巴基斯坦几百公里的导弹就可打残它。这个世界，没有谁是绝对安全的。不怕。

据印度报业托拉斯2006年7月9日援引印度国防部的消息说，印度首次“烈火3”型导弹试射失败当地时间9日上午11时05分，印度在东海岸奥里萨邦的惠勒岛试射“烈火3”型导弹。该型导弹设计射程为3500公里至6000公里。   
    导弹在发射升空且垂直上升至12公里处后，由于第二级火箭未能脱落，导弹落入奥里萨海域，没有命中孟加拉湾尼科巴群岛的既定目标。有关方面已将导弹试射失败的原因归结为“设计失误”。此前，射程分别为800公里和2000公里的“烈火1”型和“烈火2”型导弹，已被部署到印度军队。
   
    “烈火3”试射：美国干预　几度搁置   
    在“烈火1”、“烈火2”成功列装印度部队后，印度急于试射射程高达6000公里的“烈火3”远程地地弹道导弹。印度军方先后在2002、2004、2005年底和今年5月份，声称已经做好准备试射“烈火3”。5月16日，印度国防部长科学顾问纳塔拉贾称，国防研发局已经做好“烈火3”试射前的准备工作，政府批准后即可进行试射。但仅数日后，印度国防部长穆克吉却突然说，“烈火3”型中远程导弹的试射将再次被中断。   
    当时穆克吉未透露中断试射的具体原因，但据法新社报道，自2004年11月以来，美国就通过各种渠道，多次向印度政府施压，要求其在“烈火3”型导弹试射问题上“谨慎行事”，使得印度政府几次在试射问题上“光打雷不下雨”。但就在穆克吉说暂时中断试射后仅月余，印度就未经事先声明突然发射。
   
    “苏里亚”导弹“专为美国准备”   
    此次发射的失败，暴露出印度远程导弹技术还不完善，但印军方会立即从失败中吸取教训，提高其导弹水平。除了“烈火3”外，印度还在大力研发射程更远的洲际导弹。   
    美国国防部《防务新闻》曾透露，印度目前正在研制最远射程达1.2万公里的“苏里亚-2”型导弹，美国防扩散专家斯比尔认为，“苏里亚”导弹“显然是专门为了美国而准备的”。
    此前，印度的火箭连续12次成功发射，已经完全掌握“一箭双星和多星”技术，标志着印度拥有了制造远程洲际导弹以及多弹头分导的能力。当然，对于武器研发来说，从拥有能力到进入实战还有很长一段路要走。   
    用军事实力实现“大国梦”，是印度历届政府的信条。直到现在，印度政府仍没有在《不扩散核武器条约》、《导弹及其技术控制制度》等一系列国际条约上签字。印度为了实现其军事大国的宿愿，会不遗余力地发展其远程导弹。

苏里亚似乎是印度神话里的太阳神
这个导弹说了十几年了，现在还没看到影子…………

阿三，我好怕怕哟

刘宝镛的报告里提到过，苏里亚II，射程20000公里。另有说法表明其重量320吨

苏里亚似乎是印度神话里的太阳神
这个导弹说了十几年了，现在还没看到影子…………
纸飞机 发表于 2009-10-13 21:16

刘宝镛的报告里提到过，苏里亚II，射程20000公里。另有说法表明其重量320吨

印度很快又要宣传烈火8了。

饕餮天吃星 发表于 2009-10-13 21:20
20000公里？这是真的发疯了…………
印度试射烈火2的时候，就提到这个苏里亚了，记得当时说是10000公里
这都多少年了
那时候我还没听说DF-31呢…………

谎言机器 发表于 2009-10-13 20:45

信口开河习惯了，就不肯看看资料？你知道末制导是啥？


http://www.space.cetin.net.cn/docs/ht9904/ht990419.htm
　　(3)高精度制导技术
　　白杨-M的命中精度至少比白杨导弹提高近一倍，达到CEP≤35 0m。而俄罗斯战略导弹部队称，白杨-M的命中精度优于美国陆基战略导弹中命中精度最高的MX(CEP≤110m)。根据公开文献报道，白杨-M的制导系统与白杨导弹一样，为计算机控制的惯性制导或自动控制惯性制导。
　　如果白杨-M应用了机动弹头技术，那么也就很可能应用前苏联进行过飞行试验的战略弹道导弹机动弹头末制导技术。该机动弹头采用地图匹配精确制导体制，进行地图匹配的探测雷达是大功率毫米波雷达，雷达天线位于弹头侧边。雷达天线与弹头之间用导轨联接，天线与弹头分离时利用轴向力从导轨滑出，以防止产生影响弹头精度的脉冲干扰力。
　　机动末制导弹头和导弹母体的分离方式与一般惯性弹头相同，弹头飞行到120km高度时，雷达天线开始工作，利用打击目标附近（最大距离约100km）特征显著的地形、地物，如河流、湖泊、金属桥、铁塔等实现目标地图匹配。目标匹配完成后，以高压气瓶为动力源的控制系统对弹头进行调姿和位置修正，然后抛掉弹上雷达天线及高压气瓶，此时弹头位于飞行高度约90km的再入点。弹头再入后可直接飞向目标，也可进行突防机动飞行。不进行突防机动时，弹头的命中精度为CEP≤60m；进行突防机动时，弹头命中精度为CEP≤100m。

纸飞机 发表于 2009-10-13 21:27

我最早看到的苏里亚的数据是5000公里，说是烈火1-4依次实现1-4000公里的射程，从苏里亚开始进入所谓的远程导弹行列。几年后，就在苏里亚-II上放了个卫星。再几年后，烈火就开始放卫星了。


我不知道是不是因为卫星放得过猛，bharat-rakshak.com上面最荒唐的一页已经被删除了。那里的数据拿出来足以吓死好多人。原地址是http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MISSILES/Agni.html
现在只剩下page not found，不过好在我保存了网页。

上次截过两个图，比较雷人。

至于上面的教主，你再怎么YY别人害怕你那都无济于事，你所有的话我都保留着呢，因为你的话让人看了实在是心生智力上的自豪感。把你扣成平民也是为了保存你的言论，省得你那张不消停的嘴巴过一会儿导致自己被永封，那别人可就看不见你被打脸的局面了，未免可惜。反正你可以重新注册马甲来继续找抽，所以谈不上是我在闭塞你的言路。如果要真让你彻底闭嘴，你IP早就被封了。因此你尽管闹吧，我不是不给你机会。有这么好的宠物给大家消遣，是多么开心的事情啊。

我觉得我要跟教主这样，还不得人格分裂了。

研究人员说苏里亚Ⅱ型导弹的射程最终将超过20 000 km，装载核弹头，世界上所有国家都将处于印度核导弹的射程内。

饕餮天吃星 发表于 2009-10-13 21:57
总感觉他在打脸啊.....

如果没记错的话.............印度不是刚刚不久搞了一箭多星么？ 这个应该在侧面反映了一些问题的.........

三锅就是烧的厉害。

烈火5就一个东风4水平的东西，可能还不如，吓唬谁啊。
20多年前咱们就出口了不少东风3，烈火3什么时候能比东风3成熟。