超级军网最新信息披露，争议可停止--Marks09前，专访NIIP总经理
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Marks09前，专访NIIP总经理
The correspondent of Russian 'Independent Military Review' Viktor Litovkin has published last week a new article about Russian 'Tikhomirov's NIIP' radar design house, which is the developer of AESA radar for 5th generation PAK FA fighter (Russo-Indian Future Fifth Generation Fighter - FGFA program).
"The visitors of MAKS -2009 air show in Zhukovskiy (Moscow district), which is starting at August 18, will be surprised. They will see the full-scale AESA X-band radar, developed for the Russian prospective multifunctional fighters (PAK FA).
Why the appearance of this AESA is sensation? It's obvious. Yet other country publicly demonstrated a working AESA radars. Only the dummy models and the antenna mock-ups were demonstrated in Farnborough, Le Bourget, Berlin and Dubai. It never was acting radar for many reasons, including competitors fear.
Why 'Tikhomirov's NIIP' decided to act more openly? It's not only for emphasizing the high level of Russian last generation fighter, but also for showing Russian potential in creating AESAs for different modernization options. It's for Su-27 , Su-30, and MiG fighters, just as for other different ground-based systems of military and civil purposes. [/b]（等着别人升级，赚大钱）
The NIIP specialists emphasize that demonstrated AESA is manufactured on the domestic elements based on advanced Galium-Arsenide nano-size heterostructure technologies. The NIIP designers work on electronic scanning arrays (ESA) more than 40 years. Their first world ESA radar for fighter-interceptors was installed on the board of serial MiG-31 aircraft in 1981. （交待了，是自己的， 顺便炫耀研究ESA的历史）
However, the represented model is far ahead of its ancestor in terms of detection capabilities , energy effectiveness, and modes of work . If comparing to passive ESA the advance of active ESA radars is lying in more effective realization of different “air-to-air” and “air-surface” modes, in its power, signal-noise factor, range of detection and so forth. （比较，比较）
AESA advance contributes not only to the simultaneously detection of several aerial targets at maximum range (see-first-kill-first capability), but also, which is especially difficult, in targets tracking, disregarding of their maneuvers. If radar can continuously track the target, it is doomed.
AESA radars are more reliable than PESA because in case of one transmitting element failure the radar follows to work. （贬低一下PESA再说）
ONBOARD INTELLECT
It is intended to sharply increase the level of the automation of control systems for maximally unbound the pilot from the routine control functions, with concentrating on tactical missions solution. This is especially important for the one-sitting multifunctional combat aircraft.
On the prospective fighters[/b]（不就是PAK-FA嘛）, says Yuri Belyy (NIIP), it will no longer be just radar, but the integrated radio-electronic system, which includes radars in several wave bands, an identification system, electronic warfare (EW) and electronic intelligence (ELINT). According to him all this is connected into the united ideology, the united concept, and will give the “synergetic combat effect”. （波段多样化，功能多样化，集成化）
NIIP's AESA emitting modules (MMICS) are made on basis of proved serial technology, being manufacturing on the automated producing lines. For this purpose the state ensured colossal technological rearmament of one of the Moscow enterprises - “Istok inc.”（Istok操刀） (Fryazevo, Moscow district). Two product lines are under building: the line, where chips themselves are done and an assembly-line, where these chips are assembled into the microcircuits, and then they are integrated into the elements of antenna. （有钱了，生产线建两条，芯片，组装一条龙）These are the specialized micro-chip of superhigh frequencies (SHF), the monolithic integrated circuits of SHF band (MMICs). The more numerous such elements, the more powerful the radar. The quantity of modules in the antenna can reach several thousand.
NIIP's director Yuri Belyy emphasized that this is maximally automated production, in which a human factor is almost excluded. Early there was no such technology in Russia（生产线最大自动化， 同时，指出开始时俄罗斯没有这样的设备。暗示现在可以自己早设备了？）. The equipment, which is not produced in our country, was imported from different states, including Japan（开始时，从其它国家买了设备，包括鬼子）. However, Yuri Ivanovich (Belyy) did not say, how many radars they have manufactured.
- Everything is done upon the specific orders, it explained. – We have the manufacturing capability of "Istok", NIIP and 'Ryazan instrument plant' (GRPZ). [/b]（拥三个的产能）Now we are transferring all the there necessary documentation and technology. During this program the new production housing with the new equipment was built… “In principle we are ready to equip with our radars up to 50 aircrafts per year”, - said Yuri Belyy. （建立全新的厂子， 指出50台没问题）
NIIP's chief said also, that they do AESAs not only for fighters, but for other military systems too. （扩展生意了）Current antenna phased arrays technology can become standard for different purposes. It can be used in all military services, including long range antiaircraft missile systems, which are now created by “Almaz-Antey” and medium distance 'Buk' AAMS.（安泰也用了这个雷达了） Maximal unification and serial volume will give huge cost effect[/b].（很会降低成本喔） It's the way Americans go（学习能力强，通用化）: they transfer their military technologies into to civil sector - into the systems of communications and navigation, in warning system of rail transport etc… （要扩展到民用。。。。。）
- Although, it's impossibly to install our products on each car, we still are going to interest the railroad manufacturers in installing our civil devices for increasing the safety of traffic. However, on that way we still meet many bureaucratic problems.（表达了对民用的愿望）
THE FUTURE BELONGS TO YOUTH (对接班人的培养）
Young radio engineers and the designers, who came 4-5 years ago from different Russian technical universities（拨款多了，5年前开始招年轻人了）, have made a bulk part of the work. 'Tikhomirov's NIIP' employs approximately 400 people under age 30. （400人，不得了）30-40 young employees were involved in AESA development directly, and when need, they even stayed overnight like in war time… （看来，年轻人也不慵懒喔）
There are young persons everywhere: on the stands, on assembling and control line… However the general director is not satisfied and think that the number of young employees is not enough. He decide to build a new housing quarter for the young specialists families. （400人太少，搞福利分房给年轻人） （据了解，2000年后，各个机构，行业都在培养年轻人）
看来莫斯科物理技术学院的学生又要挑大梁了。 一年从不同大学招人过一百？有钱了
At the MAKS -2009 air show, 'Tikhomirov NIIP' will demonstrate also an L- range AESA. It's intended for installation into the leading-edge slats of the fighter's wing（L波段的AESA雷达，装在前缘,雷达数量真多，全身都是AESA）. It is also made with use of the contemporary domestic hybrid integral technologies （再次强调是自己的技术，如假包换）and provides electronic scanning in wide sector of angles in horizontal axis. In addition it has broadband capability. Like the X-band radar, this L-band radar was assembled in NIIP with help of unique laboratory equipment, which includes the last word of contemporary technology: （NIIP自己自己搞的）
Marks09前，专访NIIP总经理
The correspondent of Russian 'Independent Military Review' Viktor Litovkin has published last week a new article about Russian 'Tikhomirov's NIIP' radar design house, which is the developer of AESA radar for 5th generation PAK FA fighter (Russo-Indian Future Fifth Generation Fighter - FGFA program).
"The visitors of MAKS -2009 air show in Zhukovskiy (Moscow district), which is starting at August 18, will be surprised. They will see the full-scale AESA X-band radar, developed for the Russian prospective multifunctional fighters (PAK FA).
Why the appearance of this AESA is sensation? It's obvious. Yet other country publicly demonstrated a working AESA radars. Only the dummy models and the antenna mock-ups were demonstrated in Farnborough, Le Bourget, Berlin and Dubai. It never was acting radar for many reasons, including competitors fear.
Why 'Tikhomirov's NIIP' decided to act more openly? It's not only for emphasizing the high level of Russian last generation fighter, but also for showing Russian potential in creating AESAs for different modernization options. It's for Su-27 , Su-30, and MiG fighters, just as for other different ground-based systems of military and civil purposes. [/b]（等着别人升级，赚大钱）
The NIIP specialists emphasize that demonstrated AESA is manufactured on the domestic elements based on advanced Galium-Arsenide nano-size heterostructure technologies. The NIIP designers work on electronic scanning arrays (ESA) more than 40 years. Their first world ESA radar for fighter-interceptors was installed on the board of serial MiG-31 aircraft in 1981. （交待了，是自己的， 顺便炫耀研究ESA的历史）
However, the represented model is far ahead of its ancestor in terms of detection capabilities , energy effectiveness, and modes of work . If comparing to passive ESA the advance of active ESA radars is lying in more effective realization of different “air-to-air” and “air-surface” modes, in its power, signal-noise factor, range of detection and so forth. （比较，比较）
AESA advance contributes not only to the simultaneously detection of several aerial targets at maximum range (see-first-kill-first capability), but also, which is especially difficult, in targets tracking, disregarding of their maneuvers. If radar can continuously track the target, it is doomed.
AESA radars are more reliable than PESA because in case of one transmitting element failure the radar follows to work. （贬低一下PESA再说）
ONBOARD INTELLECT
It is intended to sharply increase the level of the automation of control systems for maximally unbound the pilot from the routine control functions, with concentrating on tactical missions solution. This is especially important for the one-sitting multifunctional combat aircraft.
On the prospective fighters[/b]（不就是PAK-FA嘛）, says Yuri Belyy (NIIP), it will no longer be just radar, but the integrated radio-electronic system, which includes radars in several wave bands, an identification system, electronic warfare (EW) and electronic intelligence (ELINT). According to him all this is connected into the united ideology, the united concept, and will give the “synergetic combat effect”. （波段多样化，功能多样化，集成化）
NIIP's AESA emitting modules (MMICS) are made on basis of proved serial technology, being manufacturing on the automated producing lines. For this purpose the state ensured colossal technological rearmament of one of the Moscow enterprises - “Istok inc.”（Istok操刀） (Fryazevo, Moscow district). Two product lines are under building: the line, where chips themselves are done and an assembly-line, where these chips are assembled into the microcircuits, and then they are integrated into the elements of antenna. （有钱了，生产线建两条，芯片，组装一条龙）These are the specialized micro-chip of superhigh frequencies (SHF), the monolithic integrated circuits of SHF band (MMICs). The more numerous such elements, the more powerful the radar. The quantity of modules in the antenna can reach several thousand.
NIIP's director Yuri Belyy emphasized that this is maximally automated production, in which a human factor is almost excluded. Early there was no such technology in Russia（生产线最大自动化， 同时，指出开始时俄罗斯没有这样的设备。暗示现在可以自己早设备了？）. The equipment, which is not produced in our country, was imported from different states, including Japan（开始时，从其它国家买了设备，包括鬼子）. However, Yuri Ivanovich (Belyy) did not say, how many radars they have manufactured.
- Everything is done upon the specific orders, it explained. – We have the manufacturing capability of "Istok", NIIP and 'Ryazan instrument plant' (GRPZ). [/b]（拥三个的产能）Now we are transferring all the there necessary documentation and technology. During this program the new production housing with the new equipment was built… “In principle we are ready to equip with our radars up to 50 aircrafts per year”, - said Yuri Belyy. （建立全新的厂子， 指出50台没问题）
NIIP's chief said also, that they do AESAs not only for fighters, but for other military systems too. （扩展生意了）Current antenna phased arrays technology can become standard for different purposes. It can be used in all military services, including long range antiaircraft missile systems, which are now created by “Almaz-Antey” and medium distance 'Buk' AAMS.（安泰也用了这个雷达了） Maximal unification and serial volume will give huge cost effect[/b].（很会降低成本喔） It's the way Americans go（学习能力强，通用化）: they transfer their military technologies into to civil sector - into the systems of communications and navigation, in warning system of rail transport etc… （要扩展到民用。。。。。）
- Although, it's impossibly to install our products on each car, we still are going to interest the railroad manufacturers in installing our civil devices for increasing the safety of traffic. However, on that way we still meet many bureaucratic problems.（表达了对民用的愿望）
THE FUTURE BELONGS TO YOUTH (对接班人的培养）
Young radio engineers and the designers, who came 4-5 years ago from different Russian technical universities（拨款多了，5年前开始招年轻人了）, have made a bulk part of the work. 'Tikhomirov's NIIP' employs approximately 400 people under age 30. （400人，不得了）30-40 young employees were involved in AESA development directly, and when need, they even stayed overnight like in war time… （看来，年轻人也不慵懒喔）
There are young persons everywhere: on the stands, on assembling and control line… However the general director is not satisfied and think that the number of young employees is not enough. He decide to build a new housing quarter for the young specialists families. （400人太少，搞福利分房给年轻人） （据了解，2000年后，各个机构，行业都在培养年轻人）
看来莫斯科物理技术学院的学生又要挑大梁了。 一年从不同大学招人过一百？有钱了
At the MAKS -2009 air show, 'Tikhomirov NIIP' will demonstrate also an L- range AESA. It's intended for installation into the leading-edge slats of the fighter's wing（L波段的AESA雷达，装在前缘,雷达数量真多，全身都是AESA）. It is also made with use of the contemporary domestic hybrid integral technologies （再次强调是自己的技术，如假包换）and provides electronic scanning in wide sector of angles in horizontal axis. In addition it has broadband capability. Like the X-band radar, this L-band radar was assembled in NIIP with help of unique laboratory equipment, which includes the last word of contemporary technology: （NIIP自己自己搞的）
什么争议可以停止了？:o[:a1:]
2# hbao
雷达主要功能，MMIC的自产问题，产能的问题，实用化了没有，可以进入服役了没有。
是否吃老本的问题（这个字眼在争论当中用的太多）， 生产工艺问题（参ISTOK那个回帖）
成本是否奇高（通用化，民用化，多行业）
等等。
免得争论不清。
2# hbao
雷达主要功能，MMIC的自产问题，产能的问题，实用化了没有，可以进入服役了没有。
是否吃老本的问题（这个字眼在争论当中用的太多）， 生产工艺问题（参ISTOK那个回帖）
成本是否奇高（通用化，民用化，多行业）
等等。
免得争论不清。
你要是去专访６０７老总，肯定比他还要HKC，自家孩子谁不可着劲吹啊，最后还得看疗效。
忽悠，接着忽悠。
4# greataxe
======607好像没有自己的生产线哦!!!14所还差不多.
======607好像没有自己的生产线哦!!!14所还差不多.
我没感觉停止了，难道LZ认为可以下结论了:dizzy:
毛子又调皮了，牛又吹上了。
奇怪，很有说服力吗？ 要是这个都能做证据，那么咱们那些老总的专访又怎么说？？？
不要双重标准选择性无视
JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2009-9-10 03:24 
用嘴巴解决的？
用嘴巴解决的？
边走边看。
俄罗斯GaN和GaAs在其他方面的运用。
随便列举一二。
The Supervisory Council of RUSNANO has approved a joint venture project with Research-Production Enterprise NPP KVANT for the manufacture of solar batteries for spacecrafts. （造卫星供电系统的）
The project will produce gallium arsenide-based solar batteries for satellites and space stations, with battery efficiency increased from 15 to 32% compared to silicon-based batteries. The new batteries are made up of three-junction solar cells consisting of up to 30 interleaving layers, each measuring 10-15 nm in thickness.
RUSNANO, ONEXIM and the Ural Optical and Mechanical Plant establish the joint company to manufacture the new generation lighting products
The establishing documents have been signed by Anatoly Chubais, Director General of the Russian Corporation of Nanotechnologies (RUSNANO), Mikhail Prokhorov, President of “ONEXIM Group” Ltd. and Sergey Maksin, Director General of the Ural Optical and Mechanical Plant (UOMP). （有名的产品：Su-30，35上面的光电雷达）
The project is aimed at creating a highly technological industrial production of a new generation lighting systems based on the gallium nitride semiconductor chips. The final product will be LED chips, LED lamps and lighting systems, the brightness of which is comparable with the best world analogues. The record low amount of defects in semiconductor layers allows the devices to work without losing effectiveness with high-density currents, enabling the good brightness to price ratio for LED chips
RUSNANO’s Supervisory Council has approved the corporation’s participation in a project that would found a high-tech enterprise manufacturing gallium-arsenide substrates, chips, and optical components based on vertically emitting lasers.
The primary products of the project will be chips and optical components based on vertically emitting lasers used in high bit rate optical transmission devices for local networks, active optical cables, supercomputers, and interconnects for the upcoming USB standards 3.0 and 4.0.
俄罗斯GaN和GaAs在其他方面的运用。
随便列举一二。
The Supervisory Council of RUSNANO has approved a joint venture project with Research-Production Enterprise NPP KVANT for the manufacture of solar batteries for spacecrafts. （造卫星供电系统的）
The project will produce gallium arsenide-based solar batteries for satellites and space stations, with battery efficiency increased from 15 to 32% compared to silicon-based batteries. The new batteries are made up of three-junction solar cells consisting of up to 30 interleaving layers, each measuring 10-15 nm in thickness.
RUSNANO, ONEXIM and the Ural Optical and Mechanical Plant establish the joint company to manufacture the new generation lighting products
The establishing documents have been signed by Anatoly Chubais, Director General of the Russian Corporation of Nanotechnologies (RUSNANO), Mikhail Prokhorov, President of “ONEXIM Group” Ltd. and Sergey Maksin, Director General of the Ural Optical and Mechanical Plant (UOMP). （有名的产品：Su-30，35上面的光电雷达）
The project is aimed at creating a highly technological industrial production of a new generation lighting systems based on the gallium nitride semiconductor chips. The final product will be LED chips, LED lamps and lighting systems, the brightness of which is comparable with the best world analogues. The record low amount of defects in semiconductor layers allows the devices to work without losing effectiveness with high-density currents, enabling the good brightness to price ratio for LED chips
RUSNANO’s Supervisory Council has approved the corporation’s participation in a project that would found a high-tech enterprise manufacturing gallium-arsenide substrates, chips, and optical components based on vertically emitting lasers.
The primary products of the project will be chips and optical components based on vertically emitting lasers used in high bit rate optical transmission devices for local networks, active optical cables, supercomputers, and interconnects for the upcoming USB standards 3.0 and 4.0.
greataxe 发表于 2009-9-10 08:03
应该访问南京14所的头，是不是更合适？
应该访问南京14所的头，是不是更合适？
我只知道07年的时候某将军教授给我们说某某东西我们解决了，俄罗斯还搞不定。现在就不知道咯。