超级军网求推荐美国海军早期历史的相关书籍
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最近迷上了风帆时代的海战，想找一些比较详细描述当年情况的书，发觉写皇家海军大多数都很长篇，看不过来，美国海军则刚好，历史比较短但不乏精彩篇章
:D 驶向阳光灿烂的大海之类的通史以及O记系列其实也不错，不过总感觉细节还是少了一点，求推介一些比较详细的~最近迷上了风帆时代的海战，想找一些比较详细描述当年情况的书，发觉写皇家海军大多数都很长篇，看不过来，美国海军则刚好，历史比较短但不乏精彩篇章
:D 驶向阳光灿烂的大海之类的通史以及O记系列其实也不错，不过总感觉细节还是少了一点，求推介一些比较详细的~
:D 驶向阳光灿烂的大海之类的通史以及O记系列其实也不错，不过总感觉细节还是少了一点，求推介一些比较详细的~最近迷上了风帆时代的海战，想找一些比较详细描述当年情况的书，发觉写皇家海军大多数都很长篇，看不过来，美国海军则刚好，历史比较短但不乏精彩篇章
:D 驶向阳光灿烂的大海之类的通史以及O记系列其实也不错，不过总感觉细节还是少了一点，求推介一些比较详细的~
那就只能翻当时的报纸了。
南北战争的时期，报纸的报导还不错。
我搞个例子来
那就只能翻当时的报纸了。
南北战争的时期，报纸的报导还不错。
我搞个例子来
THE IRON-CLAD FRIGATE " MERRIMAC," AND SLOOP OF WAR " GERMANTOWN," OFF CRANEY ISLAND.—[FROM A SKETCH BY OUR SPECIAL ARTIST.] THE " MERRIMAC" COMING OUT.
OUR special correspondent at Fortress Monroe has lately had an opportunity of visiting Craney Island, and has sent us the sketch which we reproduce above. It represents the Merrimac and Germantown, both vessels stolen from our navy by the rebels, afloat and at anchor off Craney Island, and ready for an excursion toward Fortress Monroe and Newport News. It will be remembered that some weeks since we published a picture of the Merrimac in her new appearance, from a sketch drawn by a mechanic on board. It will be seen that her cut and rig are precisely what we depicted. She is understood to be iron-clad and to be armed with
ten ten-inch rifled guns. The Germantown carries twenty guns. Great preparations are said to be in progress at Fortress Monroe to sink both of them if they venture out.
We likewise publish below a picture of the BATTERY AT NEWPORT NEWS, which these ships would have to encounter if they try to come out. Our engraving is from a sketch by Mr. J. Kruse, Company K, New York First Volunteers. The battery is a powerful one, and reflects credit on the Vermont volunteers who originally commenced its construction.
A letter in the Herald says :
The latest intelligence we have from Secesh, by way of a flag of truce, is that an iron-clad vessel is lying off
Craney Island, evidently awaiting an opportunity to slip her cable, and either put to sea or else engage our vessels in the harbor. Great activity is observed by our fleet in the harbor, and should this rebel craft be so intrepid as to undertake so hazardous an expedition, she will find a warm reception. For the information of the rebels I will state that we have upward of two hundred guns on the shipping in the harbor, and about as many more on the parapets and water-battery of Fortress Monroe, which will not play an unimportant role in such an engagement. The batteries on the Rip Raps are also to be taken into consideration, and if the rebel craft should even reach this place she would be compelled to come between the Rip Rips and the fort, and then pass four first-class United States war vessels. General Mansfield received notice a day or two ago to be on the qui vive for an attack. The veteran General, of course, had his division in apple-pie order, and was prepared to give the enemy a cordial welcome of grape and canister.
We read in the Commercial Advertiser:
The naval officers at this station have trustworthy information that the Merrimac is actually ready for service. The sloop-of-war Plymouth is off Craney Island, and the rebels are removing the obstructions in the Elizabeth River, so as to allow the Merrimac to come down and go up to Newport News to engage the Cumberland and Congress, now stationed there. When the Merrimac comes out the Yorktown will come down the James River. It will be a tough engagement. The Merrimac mounts ten 100-pounders of the Armstrong pattern. The Plymouth mounts fourteen 9-inch navy guns. She will be assisted by a fleet of small boats, each armed with rifled guns.
We are ready for them. The ships here on our side are the Minnesota, 44; Roanoke, 44; Jamestown, 20; Monticello, 6; a bark, 6; and several tug-boats, each with rifled guns. At Newport News there are the Congress, 50; Cumberland, 24 ; and Dawn, 5.
OUR special correspondent at Fortress Monroe has lately had an opportunity of visiting Craney Island, and has sent us the sketch which we reproduce above. It represents the Merrimac and Germantown, both vessels stolen from our navy by the rebels, afloat and at anchor off Craney Island, and ready for an excursion toward Fortress Monroe and Newport News. It will be remembered that some weeks since we published a picture of the Merrimac in her new appearance, from a sketch drawn by a mechanic on board. It will be seen that her cut and rig are precisely what we depicted. She is understood to be iron-clad and to be armed with
ten ten-inch rifled guns. The Germantown carries twenty guns. Great preparations are said to be in progress at Fortress Monroe to sink both of them if they venture out.
We likewise publish below a picture of the BATTERY AT NEWPORT NEWS, which these ships would have to encounter if they try to come out. Our engraving is from a sketch by Mr. J. Kruse, Company K, New York First Volunteers. The battery is a powerful one, and reflects credit on the Vermont volunteers who originally commenced its construction.
A letter in the Herald says :
The latest intelligence we have from Secesh, by way of a flag of truce, is that an iron-clad vessel is lying off
Craney Island, evidently awaiting an opportunity to slip her cable, and either put to sea or else engage our vessels in the harbor. Great activity is observed by our fleet in the harbor, and should this rebel craft be so intrepid as to undertake so hazardous an expedition, she will find a warm reception. For the information of the rebels I will state that we have upward of two hundred guns on the shipping in the harbor, and about as many more on the parapets and water-battery of Fortress Monroe, which will not play an unimportant role in such an engagement. The batteries on the Rip Raps are also to be taken into consideration, and if the rebel craft should even reach this place she would be compelled to come between the Rip Rips and the fort, and then pass four first-class United States war vessels. General Mansfield received notice a day or two ago to be on the qui vive for an attack. The veteran General, of course, had his division in apple-pie order, and was prepared to give the enemy a cordial welcome of grape and canister.
We read in the Commercial Advertiser:
The naval officers at this station have trustworthy information that the Merrimac is actually ready for service. The sloop-of-war Plymouth is off Craney Island, and the rebels are removing the obstructions in the Elizabeth River, so as to allow the Merrimac to come down and go up to Newport News to engage the Cumberland and Congress, now stationed there. When the Merrimac comes out the Yorktown will come down the James River. It will be a tough engagement. The Merrimac mounts ten 100-pounders of the Armstrong pattern. The Plymouth mounts fourteen 9-inch navy guns. She will be assisted by a fleet of small boats, each armed with rifled guns.
We are ready for them. The ships here on our side are the Minnesota, 44; Roanoke, 44; Jamestown, 20; Monticello, 6; a bark, 6; and several tug-boats, each with rifled guns. At Newport News there are the Congress, 50; Cumberland, 24 ; and Dawn, 5.
当然，那时候美国人的报纸，其实也很CCTV的……
再来一张有视觉迫力的：
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这个……俄罗斯舰队的来访……
THE RUSSIAN FLEET AT THE UNITED STATES NAVY YARD, MARE ISLAND, CALIFORNIA
THE RUSSIAN FLEET AT THE UNITED STATES NAVY YARD, MARE ISLAND, CALIFORNIA
铁甲舰远方兄弟：新铁甲号和莫尼特号
原来还有这么一个办法，雪MM果然彪悍:L先谢谢啦:D
顺便问问这些报道在哪里有的看？
原来还有这么一个办法，雪MM果然彪悍:L先谢谢啦:D
顺便问问这些报道在哪里有的看？
我也有本驶向阳光灿烂的大海，是我十年前在武汉上学时在某书店“借”的。
rammonlam 发表于 2009-7-1 09:19 
你的要求，其实已经到了要当发烧友的要求了，所以如果不能直接去人家美国的图书馆里查的话，就只能用GOOGLE查NEWS了，总有好事者会扫描些老东西在网络上建立网站的，特别是那些美国人。
你的要求，其实已经到了要当发烧友的要求了，所以如果不能直接去人家美国的图书馆里查的话，就只能用GOOGLE查NEWS了，总有好事者会扫描些老东西在网络上建立网站的，特别是那些美国人。
举个例子，我的常见做法就是如果想找铁甲舰的话，就在GOOGLE的图片搜索上找IRONCLAD，然后看这些图片顺眼的，就点网站进去顺藤摸瓜搜索有没有更有价值的东西……
<风帆时代的海上战争>
新阿姆斯特朗特制喷气式阿姆斯特朗大炮……
新阿姆斯特朗特制喷气式阿姆斯特朗大炮……
美国早期海军史的篇幅也很长的呀.....我记得说美国海军巡航舰在拿破仑战争的作战,都是长篇大论
greyleery 发表于 2009-7-1 11:04
哈哈，那时候后膛炮很多都是喷气式啊，操作发炮的炮手必须带皮手套，否则几个月可能就成残废军人了。
P.S. 雪版提到的是纽约时报的网站吧？
哈哈，那时候后膛炮很多都是喷气式啊，操作发炮的炮手必须带皮手套，否则几个月可能就成残废军人了。
P.S. 雪版提到的是纽约时报的网站吧？
风帆时代的海上战争入门尚可,但错误也是极多的
多年前，我在本地新华书店看到一个《美国海军史》（好象是这个名字）的书，1000多页，很详细，我没买……现在后悔了，找不到。
蒸汽装甲舰 发表于 2009-7-1 11:21
炮闩，当时是连续式的吧？
炮闩，当时是连续式的吧？
The Old US Steam Navy (1) Frigates-Gunboats 1815-1885
The Old Us Steam Navy (2) The Ironclads 1842-1885
The U.S. NAVY WARSHIP SERIES: The Sailing Navy, 1775-1854
The U.S. NAVY WARSHIP SERIES: Civil War Navies, 1855-1883
The Old US Steam Navy (1) Frigates-Gunboats 1815-1885
The Old Us Steam Navy (2) The Ironclads 1842-1885
The U.S. NAVY WARSHIP SERIES: The Sailing Navy, 1775-1854
The U.S. NAVY WARSHIP SERIES: Civil War Navies, 1855-1883
雪千寻 发表于 2009-7-1 12:46
看到的材料里说，即便连续螺纹的炮栓密闭性似乎也还是有问题啊。
看到的材料里说，即便连续螺纹的炮栓密闭性似乎也还是有问题啊。
工艺问题？还是设计的时候就留了缝隙？
应该不是全螺炮栓本身的问题，估计和阿姆斯特朗的后膛炮问题类型差不多，但纯属个人猜测～
我喜欢达尔格伦炮，很萌……
正宗沧浪客 发表于 2009-7-1 11:27
你说的应该是11楼兄弟指的那本 驶向阳光灿烂的大海---美国海军史 1775-1991
世界知识出版社的 那书貌似只有700多页
80年代海洋出版社还出版过一本 美国海军史 作者 N.米勒(还写过 海军空战 一书) 但是只有300多页 只能算是简史
美国海军学院的牛人 E.B.波特教授主编过一本 世界海军史 里面关于美国海军早期历史也很详细 解放军出版社有中文译本的 感兴趣的话也可以看看
英文版的话 S.E.莫里森教授的 约翰.保罗.琼斯 传记 值得一读
你说的应该是11楼兄弟指的那本 驶向阳光灿烂的大海---美国海军史 1775-1991
世界知识出版社的 那书貌似只有700多页
80年代海洋出版社还出版过一本 美国海军史 作者 N.米勒(还写过 海军空战 一书) 但是只有300多页 只能算是简史
美国海军学院的牛人 E.B.波特教授主编过一本 世界海军史 里面关于美国海军早期历史也很详细 解放军出版社有中文译本的 感兴趣的话也可以看看
英文版的话 S.E.莫里森教授的 约翰.保罗.琼斯 传记 值得一读