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从AFM采访巴基斯坦空军司令看歼10 将购40架 选主动电扫雷达
作者:kgb 发表日期:2008-11-01,17:33:54 点击数:36 | 修改帖子 | 收录为精华 | 锁定/解锁 | 移贴 | 删贴 | 设置/取消置顶 | 给作者加分
AFM是Air Force Monthly,一本英国杂志,和Air International是姐妹,前者注重各国空军的装备、部署、作战、训练,后者注重航空技术。



最近一期AFM采访巴基斯坦空军司令,他说巴基斯坦空军将采购240架JF-17/FC-1,40架FC-20/J-10,60架F-16。加上预警机,将成为地区空中一强。

有意思的是,他提到巴基斯坦对FC-20的采购计划,将于年底前定案。现在有两个选项,一是主动电扫雷达,一是保形油箱。主动电扫雷达还没有定,但保形油箱已经决定不要了,J-10航程已经够用了。

这就很有意思。这说明至少J-10上主动电扫雷达已经是一个选项,而不仅仅是天空中的画饼。再想象一下,这只能是中国的主动电扫。俄罗斯的主动电扫不可能出口到巴基斯坦,一个RD-93已经够啰嗦了。西方的主动电扫品种有一些,J-10的机头也够大,但第一都是非卖品,第二是否和J-10匹配还成问题,最先进的雷达加上最先进的座舱,这可能超出西方和中国的军事技术合作的层次了,而在J-10上装西方雷达和航电不可能跳过中国。那中国的主动电扫到什么地步了呢?遐想中。
网上对J-10的航程有不同的说法,有的说J-10机内容积够大,机内油量就航程很大;有的说实际上载油不足,航程达不到要求。不知道这个要求是什么,看来巴基斯坦对J-10的航程是满意的。
巴基斯坦还提到J-10的空中加油能力,这也是不需要保形油箱的一个原因。J-10的空中加油是中国标准,和俄罗斯标准兼容,和西方标准不一定兼容。巴基斯坦现在没有加油机,要空中加油的话,用什么加油机呢?
另外,从他的口气来看,J-10将作为空战主力的地位高于F-16C/D,或许美巴关系的风向又让巴基斯坦空军的背后感到凉意了?从AFM采访巴基斯坦空军司令看歼10 将购40架 选主动电扫雷达
作者:kgb 发表日期:2008-11-01,17:33:54 点击数:36 | 修改帖子 | 收录为精华 | 锁定/解锁 | 移贴 | 删贴 | 设置/取消置顶 | 给作者加分
AFM是Air Force Monthly,一本英国杂志,和Air International是姐妹,前者注重各国空军的装备、部署、作战、训练,后者注重航空技术。



最近一期AFM采访巴基斯坦空军司令,他说巴基斯坦空军将采购240架JF-17/FC-1,40架FC-20/J-10,60架F-16。加上预警机,将成为地区空中一强。

有意思的是,他提到巴基斯坦对FC-20的采购计划,将于年底前定案。现在有两个选项,一是主动电扫雷达,一是保形油箱。主动电扫雷达还没有定,但保形油箱已经决定不要了,J-10航程已经够用了。

这就很有意思。这说明至少J-10上主动电扫雷达已经是一个选项,而不仅仅是天空中的画饼。再想象一下,这只能是中国的主动电扫。俄罗斯的主动电扫不可能出口到巴基斯坦,一个RD-93已经够啰嗦了。西方的主动电扫品种有一些,J-10的机头也够大,但第一都是非卖品,第二是否和J-10匹配还成问题,最先进的雷达加上最先进的座舱,这可能超出西方和中国的军事技术合作的层次了,而在J-10上装西方雷达和航电不可能跳过中国。那中国的主动电扫到什么地步了呢?遐想中。
网上对J-10的航程有不同的说法,有的说J-10机内容积够大,机内油量就航程很大;有的说实际上载油不足,航程达不到要求。不知道这个要求是什么,看来巴基斯坦对J-10的航程是满意的。
巴基斯坦还提到J-10的空中加油能力,这也是不需要保形油箱的一个原因。J-10的空中加油是中国标准,和俄罗斯标准兼容,和西方标准不一定兼容。巴基斯坦现在没有加油机,要空中加油的话,用什么加油机呢?
另外,从他的口气来看,J-10将作为空战主力的地位高于F-16C/D,或许美巴关系的风向又让巴基斯坦空军的背后感到凉意了?
巴基斯坦空军司令访谈
作者:Alan Warnes
翻译:韩亚梓
译者注:原文发表于Air Forces Monthly杂志2008年9月号,系作者(AFM编辑)近期采访巴空军(PAF)司令Tanvir Mahmood Ahmed空军元帅的访谈录。
问:自2006年3月接任以来,你最满意的是什么?
答:最满意的是指挥领导一支世界上最优秀的空军。此外,看到PAF逐步完成更新计划,使之成为强大力量,也是非常令人满意的。这将有助于PAF发扬其光荣传统,保卫巴基斯坦的空中边界。我热切地希望作出重大改变以适应21世纪的要求,并领导PAF掌握一切专业技术。

问:你认为到2015年PAF将驾驶什么飞机?
答:到2015年PAF将拥有240架JF-17、60架F-16、40架FC-20和50架F-7PG,外加AWACS和空中加油机

问:目前有多少新机订货,都是什么机种?
答:我们订有150架JF-17、32架F-16、4架“爱立眼”AWACS和4架伊尔-78加油机

问:你们是否已经决定购买FC-20?(即J-10)2006年3月采访你时,你说采购决定“很快会作出”
答:是的,我们原则上同意了从中国购买FC-20飞机。合同可能于今年底敲定。我们喜欢该机的大平台,它的机头锥可以容纳很大的雷达,可以看的很远,而且有挂点来挂很多武器——因此载弹量也大。我们还想要一种主动相控阵雷达(AESA)但尚未决定是否购买。我们尚未签订购买FC-20的合同,因为我们的预算要考虑到未来15到20年,我不能把钱都花了!我们还有一些时间,所以我们不急于定死配置。但AESA是很好的选择。我们需要两个中队(36架)的单座和双座飞机。因为预算限制,我们不能在本财年签订合同。我们还有12个月时间来决定所有的配置,包括雷达等等。目前没有保形油箱的打算,它的载油量很大,而且有空中加油能力。

问:F-16 MLU升级计划如何了?
答:现存的F-16已经开始MLU升级,首批4架已经在美国接受改造了。计划将会继续下去,直到所有A/B型号都完成。

问:哪个中队将得到F-16C/D,在哪里?
答:我们的F-16C/D52批次将配备Shahbaz基地,代替现有的幻影拦截机承担空防任务。Shahbaz有必要的设施。目前正在与美国当局合作确定最终的改进措施,以保证F-16相关设施符合美国国防合作局(DSCA)的要求。

问:JF-17的第二阶段试飞包括哪些内容?
答:JF-17的第二阶段测试和评估主要包括武器的考核和测试。

问:首个JF-17中队何时成立,会是哪个中队?
答:首个JF-17中队将于2009年在Peshawar建立,目前正在推进全面计划以保证顺利改装。JF-17的引进标志着A-5III开始退役。26中队首先改装,16中队随后。

问:你们是否决定了第二批50架飞机的航电?是否会有AESA雷达?
答:已经就飞机的各种配备作出了最终决定。但尚未决定厂家和型号。AESA尚未做出最后决定。

问:你能否说明JF-17的交付时间表?
答:JF-17的交付已经开始了。随着AMF的组装设施完工,交货的速度也会加快。预计每年将交货25-30架,直到2015年交完。

问:150架飞机将装备多少个中队?
答:将装备7到8个中队。

问:首架萨伯-2000及其爱立眼雷达将带来什么?
答:PAF十分重视其保卫国家领空的传统任务。此外,我们也需要保卫我们的领土、经济利益,并应对目前本地区内的最新形势发展。我们优先采购基于现代技术的能力。因此,PAF购买了AEW&C机队来增强现有防空能力。该平台将与我们现存的机队、海岸及陆上防御网络交联,提供早期预警能力。这将有助于本地区内的和平和稳定。

问:能否说明交货时间表?
答:首架萨伯将于2009年下半年抵达,其余将在两年内交完。

问:PAF是否优先考虑网络中心战?
答:PAF认为网络中心战是空战的未来。为有效部署空中力量,需要不间断、鲁棒和加密的数据通信。我们了解未来的需要,我们将逐步取得网络中心战能力。除了获得战场空间的集成图像,目的还包括缩短传感器-射手之间的延误。

问:中国AWACS的采办计划进展如何?
答:中国AWACS完全可以达到PAF的空中侦察及相关任务要求。中国机种的操作及技术谈判已进入最后阶段,预计很快会成交。我们已完成我们的研究,并提出了很长的改进清单。最终我们获得的能力将接近空军采购的要求。中国方面已经研究了我们的提议,并将从我们这里得到很多反馈意见。我们已经定义了很多技术要求——例如飞机内部很吵,我们要求改进。内部装修要改进,飞行员的舒适度必须改进(他要一连7到9小时执行任务)。飞机机型是ZDK-03,在机顶有平衡木而非旋转碟状。我们需要4架该机,与爱立眼共同执行任务。它们将被用于监视我国领空,完全是防御性质的。我们并不打算用它去入侵澳大利亚或者其他什么地方。
中国制ZDK-03将与中国飞机交联,而爱立眼与西方飞机交联,不过目前幻影尚无数据链。

问:你认为伊尔-78何时交付。这些是锥管加油方式,你的F-16将如何加油?
答:伊尔-78将于2009年开始交付。空中加油将提高PAF的作战能力,并提升作战航程。这些加油机将可为所有非西方机种加油,也包括幻影,直到它们退役。F-16的加油有一个选择就是KC-135,但这要看是否有货,美国是否会卖。

问:到2015年你估计将有多少个作战中队?
答:估计与现有中队数目一样(15个)。不过,通过购买高技术飞机和力量倍增器,作战能力会得到加强。

问:无人机(UAV)是否在PAF起到重要作用?
答:UAV是有效的力量倍增器,在未来的战争中有其需求。PAF正快速获得并加强这方面的能力。PAF目前操作Falco、Bravo+以及其他几种较小型号。

问:多少个中队飞UAV,是哪些中队?
答:PAF目前有两个中队正在改装,基地在Mushaf和Peshawar。随着新机引进未来会更多,我们打算有5到6个中队。

问:你能否总结一下PAF与中国的关系?
答:巴基斯坦认为中国是其最值得信任、可靠和经受考验的朋友。中国总是乐于帮助巴基斯坦的经济、政治和军事问题。具有战略意义的重大项目,如Gwadar港、JF-17联合发展计划以及核能发电项目等,都是伟大友谊的见证。中国为PAF提供的援助增强了作战能力,这从PAF拥有的各类中国装备就可以看出来。由于其良好信誉,中国在巴基斯坦特别是PAF的武器采购计划方面占有特殊地位。
ACM's interview Pakistan Air Force will purchase 40 FC-20 by the end of the year contract to be finalized

Q: Since March 2006 successor, you most satisfied with what is?

A: The most satisfied with the leadership of a conductor is the world's most outstanding Air Force.In addition, see the gradual completion of Pakistan Air Force plans to update, to make it a powerful force, is also very satisfactory.This will help Pakistan carry forward their glorious traditions of the Air Force, the air to defend the Pakistan border. I earnestly wish to make major changes to meet the requirements of the 21st century, and led the Pakistan Air Force master of all professional and technical.

Q: Do you think that by the year 2015, Pakistan Air Force aircraft will be driving what?

Answer: by the year 2015, Pakistan Air Force will have 240 JF-17 (that is, Xiaolong fighters), 60 F-16, 40FC-20 (that is J-10) and 50 F-7PG, plus air refueling and AWACS Machine.

Q: At present the number of new aircraft orders, are what models?

A: We have 150 JF-17, 32 F-16, 4 erieyes" AWACS and refueling planes, four Il--78

Q: Do you have decided to buy FC-20? In 2006 in an interview with you, you said that procurement decisions "will soon be made"?

A: Yes, we agreed in principle to purchase from China's FC-20 aircraft. Contract may be finalized later this year. We like the big platform for the plane, its nose cone can accommodate large radar, can see very far, but also linked to point to many linked to weapons - so Zaidan Liang also big. We also want a pro-active phased array radar but has not yet decided whether to buy.We have not yet signed the purchase contract FC-20, because our budget to take into account the next 15-20 years, I can not spend money!

We still have some time, so we do not hurry to establish the configuration. However, active phased array radar is a good choice.We need two squadrons (36) and two-seat, single-seat aircraft. Because of budgetary constraints, we can not sign the contract this fiscal year.We still have 12 months to decide on the allocation of all, including radar, and so on. There is no intention to shape the fuel tank, which contained much oil, but also air refueling capacity.

Q: F-16 MLU plan to upgrade the old F-16 fleet?

A: The existing F-16 MLU has begun upgrading, the first batch of four has been in the United States to accept the transformation. Programme will continue until all the A / B models have been completed the MLU upgrade.

Q: Which Squadren will the F-16C/D be at and where would they be based?

A: Our F-16C/D block 52 batch will be equipped with Shahbaz base, replace the existing Mirage aircraft to intercept air defense task commitment.Shahbaz have the necessary facilities. Is currently working with the U.S. authorities to determine the ultimate improvement measures to ensure that the F-16 related facilities in line with the U.S. Defense Cooperation Bureau (DSCA) requirements.

Q: JF-17 test flights, including the second phase of what?

Answer: JF-17 the second phase of testing and evaluation of major weapons, including the evaluation and testing.

Q: The first JF-17 squadron when the establishment, which is the squadron?

A: The first JF-17 squadron will be established in 2009 in Peshawar, is currently promoting a comprehensive plan to ensure a smooth conversion.JF-17 marks to replace the A-5III (that is, strong-5) which we have began retiring.Squadron first modification, then 16 squadrons.

Q: Do you decide the second batch of 50 aircraft avionics Will there be active phased array (PD or AESA radar)?

A: The aircraft has been made with the various final decision.But we are yet to decide on manufacturers and models. Active phased array radar has not yet made a final decision.

Q: Can you provide us with the JF-17 delivery schedule?

Answer: JF-17 delivery has already begun.With the AMF (Air Craft Manufacturing) assembly completion of the facility, will also accelerate the speed of delivery. Estimated annual delivery will be 25-30 planes, until the 2015 TAC End.

Q: 150 JF-17 aircraft will be equipped with how many number of squadrons?

Answer: will be equipped with 7 to 8 squadron.

Q: first-Saab -2000 radar Erieyes what details can you give?

Answer: Pakistan attaches great importance to its air force to defend the national airspace of the traditional tasks.In addition, we also need to defend our territory, economic interests, and should the local area as the development of the situation. We give priority to buy based on the ability of modern technology. Therefore, the Pakistan Air Force to buy the AEW & C aircraft to enhance existing air defense capabilities. The platform will work with our existing fleet, coastal and land-based defense cross-linked/inter-linked network, providing early warning capabilities.This will help the region's peace and stability.

Q: Can to you tell us the delivery timetable?

A: The first-Saab will be in the second half of 2009, and the remaining will be delived with in 2 years End.

Q: Pakistan Air Force to consider whether the priority network-centric warfare?

A: The Pakistan Air Force network-centric warfare is that the future of aerial combat.For the effective deployment of air power, the need for continuous, robust and encrypted data communications.We understand the needs of the future, we will gradually achieve network-centric warfare capabilities. In addition to the integrated battle space images, also aims to shorten sensor - the delay between the striker.

Q: The Chinese AWACS progress of the procurement plan?

A: The Chinese AWACS can reach the Pakistan Air Force aerial reconnaissance and related mission requirements.China's aircraft operations and technology has entered the final stage of negotiations, the contract is expected soon. We have completed our study, and proposed a long list of improvements. Eventually we will get close to the ability of the Air Force procurement requirements. China has studied our proposals, and from here we have a lot of feedback.

We have defined a lot of technical requirements - such as aircraft internal environment, we require improvement. We should improve the internal renovation, the pilot's comfort level must be improved (he has to 7-9 hours-day mission). Aircraft models is ZDK-03, at the top of a rotating disk rather than the balance beam. We need four aircraft, we would love them to be commonly configured with other systems including the Erieye. They would be used to monitor Pakistans airspace which is entirely defensive in nature.

China's ZDK-03 aircraft will be cross-linked with Chinese planes,Erieyes and other Western aircraft will also be data-linked to one another, but at present there are no planes to data-link the Mirages.

Q: When will the new F-16's arrive and when will rest of the F-16 fleet be MLUed and delivered. These are the core of the force,how will the F-16 refuel?

F-16's will be delivered starting in 2009. Air refueling will increase the combat capability of Pakistan Air Force, and to enhance flight operations. These tankers will be for all non-Western refueling aircraft, including Mirage, until they are retired. F-16 refueling option is a KC-135, but this depends on whether there are goods, whether the United States will sell.

Q: By 2015 you will estimate the number of combat squadrons to be?

A: The estimated number of the same with remain the same as the existing squadrons. However, through the purchase of high-tech aircraft and force multiplier, the combat capability will be strengthened.

Q: Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) is in Pakistan Air Force has played an important role?

Answer: UAV is an effective force multiplier, in future wars have their needs.Pakistan Air Force is quick and to strengthen capacity in this area.Pakistan Air Force is currently operating the Falco, Bravo +, as well as several other smaller models.

Q: How many squadrons flying UAV, which is the squadron?

A: The Pakistan Air Force currently has two squadrons which are modified, and Mushaf base in Peshawar is oprating them. With the introduction of the new machines there will be more coming, we intend to have 5 to 6 squadrons.

Q: Can you sum up the Pakistan Air Force to its relations with China?

A: Pakistan believes that China is the most trustworthy, reliable and tested friend. China is always happy to help Pakistan. Is of strategic significance of the major projects, such as the Gwadar port, JF-17 joint development projects and nuclear power generation projects, are witness to the great friendship.China is Pakistan Air Force to provide assistance to enhance the combat capability of this from the Pakistan Air Force has various types of equipment which is Chinese and can be seen. Because of its good reputation, China in particular, Pakistan and Pakistan Air Force weapons procurement programme occupies a special place.
j10的内油是一个谜~~~~~~~~~;P
这篇东西及其变种版本发过很多次了。
( ̄﹏ ̄)
巴基斯坦的战略纵深很少,自然靠内油都能到印度领空去狗斗
中国空中加油技术的来源不是伊朗么?伊朗又是从F-4得到空中加油技术的。so,中国的加油技术兼容俄国而可能不兼容西方的说法就很奇怪了。
其实所有软管好象都是通用的,CCCP当年从约翰那里搞到的技术
原帖由 骷髅骑士 于 2008-11-1 17:59 发表
ACM's interview Pakistan Air Force will purchase 40 FC-20 by the end of the year contract to be finalized

Q: Since March 2006 successor, you most satisfied with what is?

A: The most satisfied  ...

这英文显然是机器翻译的...