俄将向印转让T-90S关键技术 印要建21个团 [图]

毛子有要让三弟出血了。。。

太好了，等他建好TG的2009型主战就满大街溜达了。

那头白象呢？;P

这1个团也太少了吧,加上训练用的才62辆......
哦,忘了,印军是小团制....:L :L

今在格鲁吉亚,
当然偶可没说他叫T-90，纯粹无责任乱发。

拿到技术是一回事,能不能造出来又是另一回事.;P

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2008-8-22 01:18
今在格鲁吉亚,
当然偶可没说他叫T-90，纯粹无责任乱发。

但愿三哥不要再搞出会炸膛的炮管来。。。。。。

看来毛子的新一代坦克研制的差不多了

这72的地盘+80的炮塔能比80U，UD好？

原帖由 liy41 于 2008-8-22 13:54 发表
这72的地盘+80的炮塔能比80U，UD好？

主要是车臣战争证明毛子所谓高档的T-80系列比T-72还容易自爆

原帖由 fengshou 于 2008-8-22 00:01 发表
毛子有要让三弟出血了。。。

是滴是滴:D

要开始仿制了~~

原帖由 MIG31A 于 2008-8-22 19:05 发表
要开始仿制了~~

民主国家应该创新能力强啊？怎么开始跟专制国家学了

在山区，这样的TK还是不宜大规模使用，只要我们的反TK导弹的射程和威力够就行了。

阿三的坦克团编制很小么。。。。。。。

阿三就是有钱。。。。

原帖由 加力吹力250千牛 于 2008-8-22 18:50 发表


主要是车臣战争证明毛子所谓高档的T-80系列比T-72还容易自爆

不好意思,车臣战争怎么证明了T80系列比T72易爆?而且还是自爆......还没听说过有人没事拿坦克去玩自爆

技术转让了也没用,火炮该炸膛的还得炸.

原帖由 hukehao111 于 2008-8-22 23:42 发表
技术转让了也没用,火炮该炸膛的还得炸.

世界上最大的民主国家采购的东西能次吗

就是手把手教阿三造，他也会给你惊喜的:L

;funk 印度太有钱了。。。。军舰+飞机+坦克全是买。。。人家老巴发财+巴新坦克+F22P都要实现国产化。。。。:D

真的 等A3造完T-90S  不怎么世界上的TK都过了几代了咯```

原帖由 hukehao111 于 2008-8-22 23:41 发表

不好意思,车臣战争怎么证明了T80系列比T72易爆?而且还是自爆......还没听说过有人没事拿坦克去玩自爆

殉炸的最厉害的就是T-80, 你自己GOOGLE去吧.

T-80那个自动装弹机比T-72的布局还危险, 在车臣炸得比T-72惨烈得多, 而且还出现过T-80没被击穿照样殉炸的情况.

毛子就是考虑这些,再加上T-80比T-90更贵, 才最终选定只生产T-90作为俄军的标准坦克的.

造坦克可不可以只有炮管啊!!阿三还要引进多少坦克技术才能造出好坦克来啊!

如阿琼的坦克履带就跑不了多远就断了!

再加上T-80比T-90更贵, 才最终选定只生产T-90作为俄军的标准坦克的

呵呵,  说反了吧.  T80才是老鹅的标配,  而90只是选配,  而且主要是出口的.  T80 源于64,  而90 就是72的变种罢了:D

原帖由 ksk2008 于 2008-8-23 05:48 发表
再加上T-80比T-90更贵, 才最终选定只生产T-90作为俄军的标准坦克的

呵呵,  说反了吧.  T80才是老鹅的标配,  而90只是选配,  而且主要是出口的.  T80 源于64,  而90 就是72的变种罢了:D

那是在车臣战争以前.车臣T-80表现惨不忍睹, 尤其它那装弹机设计得太容易爆了.

直接导致毛子最终彻底放弃这种坦克, 选择T-90作为毛军唯一继续采购的标准坦克.

可惜了大把的钱啊

原帖由 加力吹力250千牛 于 2008-8-23 00:55 发表


殉炸的最厉害的就是T-80, 你自己GOOGLE去吧.

T-80那个自动装弹机比T-72的布局还危险, 在车臣炸得比T-72惨烈得多, 而且还出现过T-80没被击穿照样殉炸的情况.

毛子就是考虑这些,再加上T-80比T-90更贵, 才最终 ...

........你自己看看俄国才多少T90,T90就是拿来出口的,T80系列才是自用货.另外殉爆了都一样挂掉.怎么叫惨烈得多?当时的T80在车臣确实表现不佳,不过T当时造成俄军重大损失的是战术和训练问题,不是装备.再说现在的T80U和当时的T80改变很大了,如果把T90拉到车臣去肯定一样会被打得惨不忍睹,就算是给毛子M1A1HA,在当时的情况下也不会好到哪去.

原帖由 加力吹力250千牛 于 2008-8-23 08:28 发表


那是在车臣战争以前.车臣T-80表现惨不忍睹, 尤其它那装弹机设计得太容易爆了.

直接导致毛子最终彻底放弃这种坦克, 选择T-90作为毛军唯一继续采购的标准坦克.

彻底放弃?!T90作为标准坦克?!
你的想像力真丰富.

原帖由 hukehao111 于 2008-8-23 21:54 发表

........你自己看看俄国才多少T90,T90就是拿来出口的,T80系列才是自用货.另外殉爆了都一样挂掉.怎么叫惨烈得多?当时的T80在车臣确实表现不佳,不过T当时造成俄军重大损失的是战术和训练问题,不是装备.再说现在的T80 ...

By 1992, the Russian Defense Ministry announced that it could no longer afford to manufacture two main battle tanks (MBTs) in parallel. Since both the "quality" T-80U and the cheaper "quantity" T-72B were each being built at one plant, and each plant was critical to the economy of the city it was in, the Government gave small orders to both. Omsk built five T-80Us and Nizhni Tagil 15 T-72s, and both built more against the hope of winning large export orders. Nizhni Tagil had built a few T-72BMs, T-72Bs upgraded with a third generation add-on Explosive Reactive Armor (ERA) called Kontakt-5, which was already in service on T-80U.

To further improve the T-72's export prospects and its chances of being selected as Russia's sole production MBT, the T-80U's more sophisticated fire control system was also added to produce a vehicle designated T-72BU. Finally, since worldwide news coverage during Desert Storm had firmly established the image of the T-72 as a burning Iraqi tank, the new model was renamed T-90.

The Russian Defense Ministry made a selection of a single MBT in 1995. The fighting in Grozny had been shown around the world and the reputation of Russian tanks was sullied. Although many casualties were due to bad tactics and many T-72s were also lost, it was the knocked-out T-80s which made an impression. More had been expected of the "quality" T-80 MBT. This is alleged to have tipped the balance against the T-80 in the selection. The T-80 was already more expensive and its delicate, fuel-hungry gas turbine was still giving problems. In January 1996, Col.-Gen. Aleksandr Galkin, Chief of the Main Armor Directorate of the Ministry of Defense, announced that the T-90 had been selected as the sole Russian MBT. However newer and upgraded T-80s will remain in Russian service for many years with the T-90 due to Russia economic problems.

The T-90 went into low-level production in 1993, based on a prototype designated as the T-88. The T-90 was developed by the Kartsev-Venediktov Design Bureau at the Vagonka Works in Nizhniy Tagil. Initially thought by Western observers to be an entirely new design, the production model is in fact based on the T-72BM, with some added features from the T-80 series. The T-90 features a new generation of armor on its hull and turret. Two variants, the T-90S and T-90E, have been identified as possible export models. Plans called for all earlier models to be replaced with T-90s by the end of 1997, subject to funding availability. By mid-1996 some 107 T-90s had gone into service in the Far Eastern Military District.

Of conventional layout, the T-90 represents a major upgrade to every system in the T-72, including the main gun. The T-90 is an interim solution, pending the introduction of the new Nizhny Tagil MBT which has been delayed due to lack of funding. Produced primarily mainly due to its lower cost, the T-90 it will probably remain in low-rate production to keep production lines open until newer designs become available. Several hundred of these tanks have been produced, with various estimates suggesting that between 100 and 300 are in service, primarily in the Far East.

T-90之所以被选中, 就是因为车臣战争时T-80表现糟糕而且造价昂贵.

至于T-90出口?

事实上,俄军装备的T-90是印度现在的2倍.

俄国从90年代至今军方唯一采购的坦克就是T-90, 现在俄军一共装备了600辆.

原帖由 加力吹力250千牛 于 2008-8-23 22:12 发表



By 1992, the Russian Defense Ministry announced that it could no longer afford to manufacture two main battle tanks (MBTs) in parallel. Since both the "quality" T-80U and the cheaper "quantity"  ...

你自己说,俄国军队里有多少T80,有多少T90?   
你让我去搜,这是我搜到的:根据最为乐观的估计，俄军现有200多辆T-90坦克，改型坦克1992年开始生产，仅仅4年后就由于经济原因停产，直到2004年都没有恢复生产。
  据报道，只有Tamanskaya机步师的一个营象征性地装备了31辆最新升级版T-90，升级部件包括第二代热成像仪、改进型爆炸反应装甲和1000马力柴油机。
   T-80主战坦克总装备数量约5300～5400辆，有多种型号，以T--80U型为主。其中，俄罗斯约4500辆


你说说看?我怎么没发现T80被放弃了,T90成了主力?

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就阿三那蹩脚的工业基础:L :L :L

原帖由 hukehao111 于 2008-8-23 22:33 发表

最最乐观的估计也只有400辆,而且只有一个营的最新改进型.俄国T90数量还不到印度的一半这件事到处都在报道.再说就算有600辆也不可能与T80系列比.T80系列是4500辆!

我说的是T-90是被俄军90年代选为其未来的标准坦克, 也是他唯一继续生产的坦克, 这跟现在装备数量有关吗?

照你这逻辑, 俄军现在装备最多的是T-72, 不是T-80, 储备量最大的, 很可能是T-55, 也不是T-80.

很威猛的阿三:D :D

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要交不少学费啊