超级军网6爷同志，有什么古董好指导
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有,那我就把最近的飞机都公布一下!
怎么样,呵呵
很另类!呵呵
倒数三楼那蛋蛋玩意怎么飞啊？旋翼吧:D ;P ;P
飞翼!还有其他一些飞机:)
接下去:lol
这个也许不错!
http://www.nexusboard.net/showthread.php?siteid=6365&threadid=230622
http://translate.google.com/translate?sourceid=navclient&hl=zh-CN&u=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2eluft46%2ecom%2fhorten%2fho18a%2ehtml
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269020
http://www.nexusboard.net/showthread.php?siteid=6365&threadid=230622
http://translate.google.com/translate?sourceid=navclient&hl=zh-CN&u=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2eluft46%2ecom%2fhorten%2fho18a%2ehtml
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269020
7号都是好东东哦:D :D :b :D :P ;P :) :) ;P :( :o :o :b :D :P
看都傻眼啦
看都傻眼啦
In 1944 the RLM issued a requirement for an aircraft with a range of 11000 km (6835 miles) and a bomb load of 4000 kg (8818 lbs).在1944年rlm发出要求飞机与一系列的11000公里（ 6835英里）和一个炸弹载荷4000公斤（ 8818磅） 。 This bomber was to be able to fly from Germany to New York City and back without refueling.这种轰炸机是确保能够让苍蝇从德国到纽约市和背部没有加油。 Five of Germany's top aircraft companies had submitted designs, but none of them met the range requirements for this Amerika Bomber .五个德国的顶级飞机公司所提交的设计，但他们都不符合各种要求，这个美国轰炸机 。 Their proposals were redesigned and resubmitted at the second competition, but nothing had changed.他们的建议被重新设计，并重新举行的第二届比赛，但什么事也没有改变。 The Hortens were not invited to submit a proposal because it was thought that they were only interested in fighter aircraft.该奥滕斯没有邀请提交一份建议，是因为人们认为，他们只关心战斗机。
After the Hortens learned of these design failures, they the went about designing the XVIII A Amerika Bomber .后奥滕斯据悉，这些设计失误，但他们是去设计第十八一美国轰炸机 。 During the Christmas 1944 holidays, Reimar and Walter Horten worked on the design specifications for their all-wing bomber.在1944年圣诞假期， reimar和Walter horten工作，对设计技术规范，他们都翼轰炸机。 They drew up a rough draft and worked on weight calculations, allowing for fuel, crew, armaments, landing gear and bomb load.他们制定了一个粗略的草稿，并致力于重量计算，允许燃料，船员，装备，起落架和炸弹负载。 Ten variations were eventually worked out, each using a different number of existing turbojets.十大变化中，最终拟定中，每一个都使用了不同数量的现有turbojets 。 Several of the designs were to be powered by four or six Heinkel-Hirth He S 011jet engines, and several of the others were designed around eight BMW 003A or eight Junker Jumo 004B turbojets.几个设计将采用四个或六个亨克尔- hirth他s 011jet引擎，其中有几位其他设计围绕着八个宝马003a或8克久茂004b turbojets 。
The version that the Hortens thought would work best would utilize six Jumo 004B turbojets, which were buried in the fuselage and exausted over the rear of the aircraft.该版本认为奥滕斯思想工作，最好将利用六久茂004b turbojets ，分别埋在了机身及exausted超过后方的飞机。 They were fed by air intakes located in the wing's leading edge.他们分别喂食，由进气口位于机翼上的领先优势。 To save weight they thought of using a landing gear that could be jettisoned immediately after takeoff (with the additional help of rocket boosters) and landing on some kind of skid.为了节省重量，他们认为用起落架可转淡后，立即起飞（这笔额外的帮助下火箭助推器） ，并降落在一些种刹车。 The Ho XVIII A was to be built mainly of wood and held together with a special carbon based glue.何十八A是即将兴建的，主要是木材和一起举行了一份特殊的碳基胶。 As a result, the huge flying wing should go largely undetected by radar.因此，巨大的飞翼，应该基本上没有未被发现的，由雷达。
The Hortens were told to make a presentation for their Amerika Bomber design on Febuary 25, 1945 in Berlin.该奥滕斯被告知，以作演讲，为他们的美国轰炸机的设计对1945年2月25日在柏林举行。 The meeting was attended by representatives of the five aircraft companies who originally submitted ideas for the competition.出席这次会议的代表组成的五架飞机公司原先提出的设想竞争。 No one challenged their assertion that their flying wing bomber could get the job done.没有人会质疑，他们声称他们的飞翼轰炸机，可以完美地完成工作。 A few days later the Hortens were told to report to Reichsmarshall Göring, who wanted to talk to the brothers personally about their proposed Amerika Bomber .几天后奥滕斯被告知报告reichsmarshall göring ，他们想要倾诉的兄弟亲自对他们提出的美国轰炸机 。 There they were told that they were to work with the Junkers company in building the aircraft.在那里他们被告知说，他们一直致力于与junkers公司在建立飞机。
Several days later Reimar and Walter Horten met with the Junkers engineers, who had also invited some Messerschmitt engineers.几天后reimar和Walter horten会见了junkers工程师，他们也邀请了一些梅塞施米特工程师。 Suddenly it seemed that the Horten's design was to be worked on by committee.突然，它似乎觉得horten的设计是为了工作，由委员会处理。 The Junkers and Messerschmitt engineers were unwilling to go with the design that the Hortens presented several days earlier.该junkers和梅塞施米特工程师们不愿意到与设计该奥滕斯介绍了好几天。 Instead, the committee wanted to place a huge vertical fin and rudder to the rear of the Ho XVIII A. Reimar Horten was angry, as this would add many more man-hours, plus it would create drag and thus reduce the range.取而代之的是，委员会希望建立一个庞大的垂直鳍和舵向后方的蚝十八甲reimar horten是愤怒，因为这将增加更多的人时，再加上它会造成拖累，从而减少幅度。 The committee also wanted to place the engines beneath the wing, which would create additional drag and reduce the range even further.委员会还希望把发动机下方联队，这将可创造更多的拖累，降低幅度更加缓慢。 After two days of discussion, they chose a design that had huge vertical fins, with the cockpit built into the fin's leading edge.经过两天的讨论，他们选择了设计，有巨大的垂直鳍，与驾驶舱建成了鱼翅的领先优势。 Six Jumo 004A jet engines were slung under the wing, three to a nacelle on each side.六久茂004a喷气发动机，被吊挂在机翼上，三名，一吊篮一边一国。 The bomb bay would be located between the two nacelles, and the tricycle landing gear would also be stored in the same area.炸弹湾将位于两国之间的发动机舱，和三轮车起落架也将被储存在同一地区。 The committee would present the final design to the RML and recommended that it be built in the former mining tunnels in the Harz Mountains.该委员会将提出最后的设计方案向rml ，并建议将它建在原采矿隧道中哈茨山。 Reimar was unhappy with the final design, so he went about redesigning the aircraft, to be known as the Ho XVIII B . reimar不满的最终设计，所以他便重新设计的飞机，被称为蚝第十八过程 。
Span: 40 m (131' 4") Length: Unknown Max. Speed: 900 km/h (559 mph) 跨度： 40米（ 131 ' 4 " ）长度：不明最大速度： 900公里/小时（ 559英里每小时）
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Artist's conception of the Horten Ho XVIII A艺术家的构想的horten何十八1
Many thanks to Dr. David Myhra, who graciously sent me the above material (text and pictures) 很多谢国宝博士myhra ，他们慷慨地送我上述材料（文字和图片）
from his new book, The Horten Brothers and Their All-Wing Aircraft , published by Schiffer. 从他的新著， horten兄弟和他们的所有固定翼飞机的 ，由出版不来梅。
原文：
Reimar was unhappy with the final design, so he went about redesigning the aircraft, to be known as the Ho XVIII B .
更好的翻译建议
这些翻译后在国际展望里看到过，原来他们也是这么混出来的呀
After the Hortens learned of these design failures, they the went about designing the XVIII A Amerika Bomber .后奥滕斯据悉，这些设计失误，但他们是去设计第十八一美国轰炸机 。 During the Christmas 1944 holidays, Reimar and Walter Horten worked on the design specifications for their all-wing bomber.在1944年圣诞假期， reimar和Walter horten工作，对设计技术规范，他们都翼轰炸机。 They drew up a rough draft and worked on weight calculations, allowing for fuel, crew, armaments, landing gear and bomb load.他们制定了一个粗略的草稿，并致力于重量计算，允许燃料，船员，装备，起落架和炸弹负载。 Ten variations were eventually worked out, each using a different number of existing turbojets.十大变化中，最终拟定中，每一个都使用了不同数量的现有turbojets 。 Several of the designs were to be powered by four or six Heinkel-Hirth He S 011jet engines, and several of the others were designed around eight BMW 003A or eight Junker Jumo 004B turbojets.几个设计将采用四个或六个亨克尔- hirth他s 011jet引擎，其中有几位其他设计围绕着八个宝马003a或8克久茂004b turbojets 。
The version that the Hortens thought would work best would utilize six Jumo 004B turbojets, which were buried in the fuselage and exausted over the rear of the aircraft.该版本认为奥滕斯思想工作，最好将利用六久茂004b turbojets ，分别埋在了机身及exausted超过后方的飞机。 They were fed by air intakes located in the wing's leading edge.他们分别喂食，由进气口位于机翼上的领先优势。 To save weight they thought of using a landing gear that could be jettisoned immediately after takeoff (with the additional help of rocket boosters) and landing on some kind of skid.为了节省重量，他们认为用起落架可转淡后，立即起飞（这笔额外的帮助下火箭助推器） ，并降落在一些种刹车。 The Ho XVIII A was to be built mainly of wood and held together with a special carbon based glue.何十八A是即将兴建的，主要是木材和一起举行了一份特殊的碳基胶。 As a result, the huge flying wing should go largely undetected by radar.因此，巨大的飞翼，应该基本上没有未被发现的，由雷达。
The Hortens were told to make a presentation for their Amerika Bomber design on Febuary 25, 1945 in Berlin.该奥滕斯被告知，以作演讲，为他们的美国轰炸机的设计对1945年2月25日在柏林举行。 The meeting was attended by representatives of the five aircraft companies who originally submitted ideas for the competition.出席这次会议的代表组成的五架飞机公司原先提出的设想竞争。 No one challenged their assertion that their flying wing bomber could get the job done.没有人会质疑，他们声称他们的飞翼轰炸机，可以完美地完成工作。 A few days later the Hortens were told to report to Reichsmarshall Göring, who wanted to talk to the brothers personally about their proposed Amerika Bomber .几天后奥滕斯被告知报告reichsmarshall göring ，他们想要倾诉的兄弟亲自对他们提出的美国轰炸机 。 There they were told that they were to work with the Junkers company in building the aircraft.在那里他们被告知说，他们一直致力于与junkers公司在建立飞机。
Several days later Reimar and Walter Horten met with the Junkers engineers, who had also invited some Messerschmitt engineers.几天后reimar和Walter horten会见了junkers工程师，他们也邀请了一些梅塞施米特工程师。 Suddenly it seemed that the Horten's design was to be worked on by committee.突然，它似乎觉得horten的设计是为了工作，由委员会处理。 The Junkers and Messerschmitt engineers were unwilling to go with the design that the Hortens presented several days earlier.该junkers和梅塞施米特工程师们不愿意到与设计该奥滕斯介绍了好几天。 Instead, the committee wanted to place a huge vertical fin and rudder to the rear of the Ho XVIII A. Reimar Horten was angry, as this would add many more man-hours, plus it would create drag and thus reduce the range.取而代之的是，委员会希望建立一个庞大的垂直鳍和舵向后方的蚝十八甲reimar horten是愤怒，因为这将增加更多的人时，再加上它会造成拖累，从而减少幅度。 The committee also wanted to place the engines beneath the wing, which would create additional drag and reduce the range even further.委员会还希望把发动机下方联队，这将可创造更多的拖累，降低幅度更加缓慢。 After two days of discussion, they chose a design that had huge vertical fins, with the cockpit built into the fin's leading edge.经过两天的讨论，他们选择了设计，有巨大的垂直鳍，与驾驶舱建成了鱼翅的领先优势。 Six Jumo 004A jet engines were slung under the wing, three to a nacelle on each side.六久茂004a喷气发动机，被吊挂在机翼上，三名，一吊篮一边一国。 The bomb bay would be located between the two nacelles, and the tricycle landing gear would also be stored in the same area.炸弹湾将位于两国之间的发动机舱，和三轮车起落架也将被储存在同一地区。 The committee would present the final design to the RML and recommended that it be built in the former mining tunnels in the Harz Mountains.该委员会将提出最后的设计方案向rml ，并建议将它建在原采矿隧道中哈茨山。 Reimar was unhappy with the final design, so he went about redesigning the aircraft, to be known as the Ho XVIII B . reimar不满的最终设计，所以他便重新设计的飞机，被称为蚝第十八过程 。
Span: 40 m (131' 4") Length: Unknown Max. Speed: 900 km/h (559 mph) 跨度： 40米（ 131 ' 4 " ）长度：不明最大速度： 900公里/小时（ 559英里每小时）
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Artist's conception of the Horten Ho XVIII A艺术家的构想的horten何十八1
Many thanks to Dr. David Myhra, who graciously sent me the above material (text and pictures) 很多谢国宝博士myhra ，他们慷慨地送我上述材料（文字和图片）
from his new book, The Horten Brothers and Their All-Wing Aircraft , published by Schiffer. 从他的新著， horten兄弟和他们的所有固定翼飞机的 ，由出版不来梅。
原文：
Reimar was unhappy with the final design, so he went about redesigning the aircraft, to be known as the Ho XVIII B .
更好的翻译建议
这些翻译后在国际展望里看到过，原来他们也是这么混出来的呀
http://www.nexusboard.net/showth ... amp;threadid=230622
德文的实在是看不懂，图实在不错
德文的实在是看不懂，图实在不错
看来我的努力没有白费.(还是有人关注的,:D :lol )
那我就再接再厉吧:)
那我就再接再厉吧:)
刚刚找到的,新鲜一下吧.:handshake
http://www.rexresearch.com/wingless/wingless.htm
http://www.rexresearch.com/wingless/wingless.htm
刚刚找到[:a14:]
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http://www.war-sky.com/forum/rea ... oread--page-99.html
怎么,要我加入猜机行列:L(楼上的:lol )
看来威慑力还是有点不够啊!:D
德文的我也没办法啊,说到这你也得漏点了吧.(我再漏会把底都给漏光的~~!!!!)
对了:) 还要飞翼的吗?
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对电子方面不是太了解.但这个消息很有轰动性!(这直接体现于俄罗斯对美国的这一举动所做出的反应,但我想其结果收效甚微.那么接下来就有一场高层次的政治摩擦了.)
对电子方面不是太了解.但这个消息很有轰动性!(这直接体现于俄罗斯对美国的这一举动所做出的反应,但我想其结果收效甚微.那么接下来就有一场高层次的政治摩擦了.)
其原因我想应该是苏联不会对美国的这一发现无动于衷.(虽然美国最后不决定使用)所以说(凝可信其有,不可信其无)呵呵;P
这个的发现有可能会让有些国家考虑是否要改变为其它的联络方式了.(又一次的技术革命啊!!!!!:L )
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呵呵,让我想起了美国的黑屋(早期的密码破解和创建机构)不知道是不是也属于电子行业.
你的脑子的容量可真大,我到现在也没读几本呢.(其实是看不下)要是像你见到好书就看就好了!:Q
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有一点不太明白(温爷爷真英明啊！)这话怎么讲?
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恩!我喜欢这篇文章.(在这篇文章里面中途岛海战其实是个引题,更多的是讲人性的落差.)
虽然我也认为中国和日本人的名族性弱点有很大的相似之处,但我想说的是在这篇文章中有一点让我有些失望.那就是并没有指出美国的名族性弱点,虽然我承认在二战中美国的表现十分的优秀.
虽然我也认为中国和日本人的名族性弱点有很大的相似之处,但我想说的是在这篇文章中有一点让我有些失望.那就是并没有指出美国的名族性弱点,虽然我承认在二战中美国的表现十分的优秀.
这个我想也许是战胜者外加正义的缘故吧.让世人都忽视掉了,那具有丑陋的欧洲血统人.
知道吗,在我印象中.英国是最可恶的!
正确的说,欧洲人与亚洲人最大的区别在于(我们注重精神,他们注重利益)这最大的体现在于
知道吗,在我印象中.英国是最可恶的!
正确的说,欧洲人与亚洲人最大的区别在于(我们注重精神,他们注重利益)这最大的体现在于
亚洲人视投降为耻辱,欧洲人视为一种解决方式.
归根到底，不仅在中途岛海战中，而且在整个战争中日本战败的根源是深深地蕴藏在日本的国民性中。我国国民有一种违背理性和容易冲动的性格，所以行动上漫无目标，往往自相矛盾。地方观念的传统使我们心胸狭窄，主观固执，因循守旧，对于即令是必要的改革也迟迟不愿采用。我们优柔寡断，因此易陷于夜郎自大，这又是使我们瞧不起别人。我们投机取巧，缺乏大胆和独立精神，习惯于依赖别人和奉承上司。由于我们缺乏理性，往往把愿望和现实混为一谈，因而行事缺乏慎重计划。只有草率的行动失败后，我们才会理性地去考虑它，即使是思考了，但又往往是为失败寻觅借口。总之，作为一个民族，我们的思想是不够成熟而又不善于调整适应，因此，我们便不知道为了达到我们的主要目的，在什么时候作出牺牲和作出什么样的牺牲。
这些就是日本民族性的弱点。至于这些弱点都反映在中途岛海战失败中，而这次失败使在那里作战的人们的一切事迹和可贵的牺牲都付诸东流了。日本人所遭到不幸，其原因就在于这些弱点。
1。 ;P 我刚问过源田兄弟[国产滴，你自个看9知道]，呵呵，他说他也是这样认为
2。 ，确实跟现在某些中国人[包括搞飞机滴]太象，不自省，不得以自新！！！
重视科学吧，当然，对大多数人而言，吹吹而已
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另外回6爷兄，最近狂看的本书[屋顶上的精英]就是米帝专门介绍优秀科学历史，人文事物的书书，不过中信翻译的太古怪了，专用名词翻译的误七八糟，为了看这书，长宁图书馆里另一本 宋的 海军与海权 失踪中[不知道被谁藏了，坑啊]
这些就是日本民族性的弱点。至于这些弱点都反映在中途岛海战失败中，而这次失败使在那里作战的人们的一切事迹和可贵的牺牲都付诸东流了。日本人所遭到不幸，其原因就在于这些弱点。
1。 ;P 我刚问过源田兄弟[国产滴，你自个看9知道]，呵呵，他说他也是这样认为
2。 ，确实跟现在某些中国人[包括搞飞机滴]太象，不自省，不得以自新！！！
重视科学吧，当然，对大多数人而言，吹吹而已
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另外回6爷兄，最近狂看的本书[屋顶上的精英]就是米帝专门介绍优秀科学历史，人文事物的书书，不过中信翻译的太古怪了，专用名词翻译的误七八糟，为了看这书，长宁图书馆里另一本 宋的 海军与海权 失踪中[不知道被谁藏了，坑啊]
6爷，这几本漂亮吧？呵呵，
最近这几天到处收集李志林博士，谢百三，谢国忠的文集。
他们的书都贵78-80多元本，买不起呀
http://www.kojinsha.co.jp/image/book/maru/m0802f.jpg
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最近这几天到处收集李志林博士，谢百三，谢国忠的文集。
他们的书都贵78-80多元本，买不起呀
http://www.kojinsha.co.jp/image/book/maru/m0802f.jpg
http://www.kojinsha.co.jp/image/book/maru/m0801b.jpg
http://www.kojinsha.co.jp/image/book/maru/m0801_s.jpg
http://www.kojinsha.co.jp/image/book/maru/m0704_s.jpg
原图：
http://bbs.cjdby.net/viewthread.php?tid=447892&extra=&page=5
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不错!紫电改是我喜欢的书.