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师出同门，
殊途同归。
仙人指路，
各自修行。师出同门，
殊途同归。
仙人指路，
各自修行。
殊途同归。
仙人指路，
各自修行。师出同门，
殊途同归。
仙人指路，
各自修行。
那么谁的西化更彻底呢？
呼吁赶紧引进数架SU35，以便跟J11B进行PK，以决胜负！:D
原帖由 adfi 于 2007-8-25 14:12 发表
那么谁的西化更彻底呢？
这个不用说吧？
原帖由 龙腾日月 于 2007-8-25 14:17 发表
这个不用说吧？
哟和，来了个高人，倒要请你说说了，可别露怯。
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原帖由 放逐的云 于 2007-8-25 14:20 发表
那肯定是采用TG新的国军标生产的西化一点～～
有何根据呢，分析分析吧。
嗨！进来光说什么西化西化了，
都忘记BS淫湿的那位主了，再进来踩一脚！
都忘记BS淫湿的那位主了，再进来踩一脚！
不是看到了么: "龙兄" "虎弟" 三:)
;P ,高!实在是搞!:D
龙兄虎弟
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家养扬子鳄Vs野生乌苏里虎
和俄罗斯比，中国还远称不上兄吧？
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家养扬子鳄Vs野生乌苏里虎
和俄罗斯比，中国还远称不上兄吧？
呵呵! 11B西化的更彻底一些~~!
11B的光雷其性能和探测距离要优于27系的.
11B的光雷其性能和探测距离要优于27系的.
那张世界军事的封底
左边架子上那位在厂房里穿得倒是挺酷;P
左边架子上那位在厂房里穿得倒是挺酷;P
Su-35BM will be the last developed Flanker. An final upgrade, final variant.
Actually, the designation is quite confusing, since Su-35 already exists in Russian Air Force. Su-35 was the export designation for upgraded Su-27, called Su-27M, internal Sukhoi designation T-10M. Su-27M gave baseline Flanker new avionics, as well as precision air-to-ground capability. Only five of these are in service with VVS (Russian Air Force), with 237th regiment based at Kubinka Air Base. VVS chose another path instead; to incorporate technologies tested in Su-35/T-10M, together with those of Su-30MK, into an standard upgrade project for the baseline Flanker, the Su-27SM. The Su-35 designation was also used for Su-37, dubbed as “Terminator”. Aircraft was a testbed for 2D thrust-vectoring engines, mounted on Su-35/T-10M.
可以说新35是苏俄27型战斗机的最终幻想，他们已经把能实现到的最优秀的一系列成果应用到了它身上，这是一款为出口打造的27型战机的最后辉煌。:$
Actually, the designation is quite confusing, since Su-35 already exists in Russian Air Force. Su-35 was the export designation for upgraded Su-27, called Su-27M, internal Sukhoi designation T-10M. Su-27M gave baseline Flanker new avionics, as well as precision air-to-ground capability. Only five of these are in service with VVS (Russian Air Force), with 237th regiment based at Kubinka Air Base. VVS chose another path instead; to incorporate technologies tested in Su-35/T-10M, together with those of Su-30MK, into an standard upgrade project for the baseline Flanker, the Su-27SM. The Su-35 designation was also used for Su-37, dubbed as “Terminator”. Aircraft was a testbed for 2D thrust-vectoring engines, mounted on Su-35/T-10M.
可以说新35是苏俄27型战斗机的最终幻想，他们已经把能实现到的最优秀的一系列成果应用到了它身上，这是一款为出口打造的27型战机的最后辉煌。:$
原帖由 adfi 于 2007-8-25 14:21 发表
有何根据呢，分析分析吧。
当然太具体的俺也说不上来，但是咱们都知道，TG正抓紧学习gla.根据国家导向也能推测出一些东西来。而且航电不用西方化的，用毛子的这个有点寒碜
原帖由 银灰 于 2007-8-25 14:31 发表
呵呵! 11B西化的更彻底一些~~!
11B的光雷其性能和探测距离要优于27系的.
啥都不知道就少扯淡好不，你知道双方的水平？还光雷呢，没有比这更业余的说法。
原帖由 adfi 于 2007-8-25 14:38 发表
啥都不知道就少扯淡好不，你知道双方的水平？还光雷呢，没有比这更业余的说法。
放松，有问题大家讨论。
你用你的论据支持你的观点就好了，大家毕竟都不是太专业的。
他们雷达一样吗？
雷达罩似乎挺像:o
雷达罩似乎挺像:o
雷达目前比我们的强。:victory:
Tikhomirov NIIP Irbis-E radar uses electronically scanned array (ESA). It’s a multifunctional radar system, working in X-band, holded on two-axis hydraulic drive. Radar uses EKVS-E BTsVM Solo35 computing system. The Irbis-E can track 30 different targets, while retaining continous airspace scan, eg. track-while-scan mode. The fire control system can simultaneously guide two semi-active radar guided missiles. If used in conjuction with active radar guided missiles, this number is eight. In air to surface operations, radar is capable of mapping land and sea targets, and detection of targets in real-beam, Doppler, and SAR modes. Four ground targets can be tracked at the same time, while two can be attacked at the same time, too. Since Irbis-E has enormeous power output, up to 20 kilowatts, it can detect an “standard” target (RCS at 3 square meters) 400 kilometers away. Normally, that figure is given for head-on aspect, in tail-on aspect it drops down to 150 km. Stealth targets (RCS at 0.01 square meters) can be detected at 90 km range. Irbis-E is also capable of target identification, and can conduct simultaneous air-to-air and air-to-ground operations.
Tikhomirov NIIP Irbis-E radar uses electronically scanned array (ESA). It’s a multifunctional radar system, working in X-band, holded on two-axis hydraulic drive. Radar uses EKVS-E BTsVM Solo35 computing system. The Irbis-E can track 30 different targets, while retaining continous airspace scan, eg. track-while-scan mode. The fire control system can simultaneously guide two semi-active radar guided missiles. If used in conjuction with active radar guided missiles, this number is eight. In air to surface operations, radar is capable of mapping land and sea targets, and detection of targets in real-beam, Doppler, and SAR modes. Four ground targets can be tracked at the same time, while two can be attacked at the same time, too. Since Irbis-E has enormeous power output, up to 20 kilowatts, it can detect an “standard” target (RCS at 3 square meters) 400 kilometers away. Normally, that figure is given for head-on aspect, in tail-on aspect it drops down to 150 km. Stealth targets (RCS at 0.01 square meters) can be detected at 90 km range. Irbis-E is also capable of target identification, and can conduct simultaneous air-to-air and air-to-ground operations.
高人指点？
谁呢？
谁呢？
都在斗嘴啊，唉……:L
敢说句简单的不？ 谁厉害？
原帖由 pupu 于 2007-8-25 15:05 发表
都在斗嘴啊，唉……:L
那你给解释解释，大家不就明白了~~:D :D :D
原帖由 pupu 于 2007-8-25 15:05 发表
都在斗嘴啊，唉……:L
抱歉pupu大哥，小学生丢人了。
俺这就回去用心学技术。
对了，俺把航发聊天纪录大概整理好了，你只管上线听我胡说就行了
Su35 对RCS=0.01的目标，探测距离是90km，雷达是不错的说！
原帖由 adfi 于 2007-8-25 14:43 发表
雷达目前比我们的强。:victory:
Tikhomirov NIIP Irbis-E radar uses electronically scanned array (ESA). It’s a multifunctional radar system, working in X-band, holded on two-axis hydraulic driv ...
个么我们的11B用的啥雷达？不贴出来好像也别那么急着下“雷达目前比我们的强”这样的结论吧，看到有消息说我们的aesa已经在测试了
毛子那个是装117S的
原帖由 iscp 于 2007-8-25 15:21 发表
Su35 对RCS=0.01的目标，探测距离是90km，雷达是不错的说！
你确定？
不知道什么时候可以看见11的空中加油管啊
思想决定方向
“Stealth targets (RCS at 0.01 square meters) can be detected at 90 km range”
11天朝会改多少年？？？:)
那不是脱胎换骨了？！
呵呵，11B头头有控诉管，背上有减速板，估计飞控还是没有毛子的牛叉吧........
菜鸟发言，不对拍砖
菜鸟发言，不对拍砖
原帖由 pupu 于 2007-8-25 15:05 发表
都在斗嘴啊，唉……:L
还望pu大指点迷津啊
就一个空速管,11就差点
pupu要多给我们透点料 大家心情好就不斗嘴了啊
原帖由 放逐的云 于 2007-8-25 14:20 发表
那肯定是采用TG新的国军标生产的西化一点～～
新的国军标不就是美标吗～～;P
还是过期的
火花老大放出来了？？
赶紧摆桌接风:D
赶紧摆桌接风:D