印度军队拒绝继续购买国产Akash防空弹

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Indian army rejects homegrown missile in blow to 'Make in India'                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Indian soldiers display Akash missiles during the full-dress rehearsal for the Republic Day parade in New Delhi on Jan. 23, 2009.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                © Reuters                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        NEW DELHI -- The Indian army reportedly plans to import missiles from abroad rather than continue buying a less-advanced locally developed system, prioritizing combat capabilities over government efforts to promote domestic manufacturing.


Not up to snuff

"There were technical, research-oriented issues" with India's Akash system, a Ministry of Defense official told the Nikkei Asian Review. The military has finished testing Israeli, Russian and Swedish alternatives, with Israel's Spyder in the lead, the official said.

The ministry's Defense Research and Development Organization had worked on the Akash surface-to-air missile system for around three decades, intending to supply the army, navy and air force. The army has ordered two regiments' worth, and the air force has ordered 15 squadrons' worth, for a total of 250 billion rupees ($3.75 billion). The army had been expected to buy more, as it needs to deploy six missile regiments along the borders with Pakistan and China. The Akash has a range of 25km.

The army has informed the R&D agency that it will not order any more Akash systems, a source said. The Akash requires eight to nine seconds to fire, compared with just four to five seconds for the Spyder, making the homegrown system more likely to fail to intercept targets in border areas where response time is limited. Its lack of the latest guidance technology was apparently also a concern to the army.

Contract negotiations with Israel "will be started sometime later," a ministry official said. The military expects to negotiate the price of the Spyder down to a level on a par with the Akash.

The Akash's technical weaknesses owe to more than a decade of development delays. The navy has avoided the Akash, citing stabilization problems, and the air force is unlikely to put in any more orders.
Security analyst Rajeev Sharma argued that the capabilities of the R&D agency, which is tasked with developing more sophisticated military technology, are lacking. The Akash is "meeting the same fate as Arjun," the indigenous tank developed by the DRDO over 20 years, "which has no more buyers now due to its weaker features," Sharma said. The government replaced the agency's head last year.

Arms race

Pakistan and China, which have locked horns with India in South Asia for years, have been building up their militaries. Pakistan is strengthening its aerial forces, marketing the JF-17 fighter jointly developed with China to Asian countries including Myanmar and Sri Lanka while seeking to buy F-16 jets built by American defense contractor Lockheed Martin.

The U.S. decided Monday against extending $430 million in foreign military financing to Pakistan, requiring Islamabad to fully fund the F-16 purchase on its own. But this has not fazed Pakistan, which can still buy from China or Russia.

Though Pakistan's military spending is just a fifth of India's, Beijing spends four times as much as New Delhi. With Pakistan and China building closer defense and economic ties, the Indian military urgently needs to update its old equipment centering on gear from Russia.

But it faces budgetary constraints. India's military spending ranks sixth in the world, according to data from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute. Defense expenditures account for 9% of its budget, topping China's 6% and Japan's 2%. The country is the world's top weapons importer, an expense that weighs on its finances and its balance of payments.

Under Prime Minister Narendra Modi, the government has promoted local production to pave the way for cheaper weapons procurement. It raised the foreign ownership cap in the defense industry from 26% to 49% in 2014. Businesses in India's private sector are joining hands with foreign companies in such arrangements as a joint venture by the Tata group with Boeing on military aircraft production.

But the Akash decision is seen as a message from the Defense Ministry that it does not "compromise on operational readiness, irrespective to the location of manufacturing," an Indian defense expert said. With government approval required for foreign stakes in defense contractors exceeding 49%, many overseas companies hesitate to transfer cutting-edge technology to India. And the military now looks less likely to accept equipment that is a step down.

New Delhi had hoped that a shift to domestic production would let it strengthen the military while saving money. For now, though, the country will likely need to keep relying largely on imports.
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Indian army rejects homegrown missile in blow to 'Make in India'                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Indian soldiers display Akash missiles during the full-dress rehearsal for the Republic Day parade in New Delhi on Jan. 23, 2009.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                © Reuters                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        NEW DELHI -- The Indian army reportedly plans to import missiles from abroad rather than continue buying a less-advanced locally developed system, prioritizing combat capabilities over government efforts to promote domestic manufacturing.


Not up to snuff

"There were technical, research-oriented issues" with India's Akash system, a Ministry of Defense official told the Nikkei Asian Review. The military has finished testing Israeli, Russian and Swedish alternatives, with Israel's Spyder in the lead, the official said.

The ministry's Defense Research and Development Organization had worked on the Akash surface-to-air missile system for around three decades, intending to supply the army, navy and air force. The army has ordered two regiments' worth, and the air force has ordered 15 squadrons' worth, for a total of 250 billion rupees ($3.75 billion). The army had been expected to buy more, as it needs to deploy six missile regiments along the borders with Pakistan and China. The Akash has a range of 25km.

The army has informed the R&D agency that it will not order any more Akash systems, a source said. The Akash requires eight to nine seconds to fire, compared with just four to five seconds for the Spyder, making the homegrown system more likely to fail to intercept targets in border areas where response time is limited. Its lack of the latest guidance technology was apparently also a concern to the army.

Contract negotiations with Israel "will be started sometime later," a ministry official said. The military expects to negotiate the price of the Spyder down to a level on a par with the Akash.

The Akash's technical weaknesses owe to more than a decade of development delays. The navy has avoided the Akash, citing stabilization problems, and the air force is unlikely to put in any more orders.
Security analyst Rajeev Sharma argued that the capabilities of the R&D agency, which is tasked with developing more sophisticated military technology, are lacking. The Akash is "meeting the same fate as Arjun," the indigenous tank developed by the DRDO over 20 years, "which has no more buyers now due to its weaker features," Sharma said. The government replaced the agency's head last year.

Arms race

Pakistan and China, which have locked horns with India in South Asia for years, have been building up their militaries. Pakistan is strengthening its aerial forces, marketing the JF-17 fighter jointly developed with China to Asian countries including Myanmar and Sri Lanka while seeking to buy F-16 jets built by American defense contractor Lockheed Martin.
The U.S. decided Monday against extending $430 million in foreign military financing to Pakistan, requiring Islamabad to fully fund the F-16 purchase on its own. But this has not fazed Pakistan, which can still buy from China or Russia.

Though Pakistan's military spending is just a fifth of India's, Beijing spends four times as much as New Delhi. With Pakistan and China building closer defense and economic ties, the Indian military urgently needs to update its old equipment centering on gear from Russia.

But it faces budgetary constraints. India's military spending ranks sixth in the world, according to data from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute. Defense expenditures account for 9% of its budget, topping China's 6% and Japan's 2%. The country is the world's top weapons importer, an expense that weighs on its finances and its balance of payments.

Under Prime Minister Narendra Modi, the government has promoted local production to pave the way for cheaper weapons procurement. It raised the foreign ownership cap in the defense industry from 26% to 49% in 2014. Businesses in India's private sector are joining hands with foreign companies in such arrangements as a joint venture by the Tata group with Boeing on military aircraft production.

But the Akash decision is seen as a message from the Defense Ministry that it does not "compromise on operational readiness, irrespective to the location of manufacturing," an Indian defense expert said. With government approval required for foreign stakes in defense contractors exceeding 49%, many overseas companies hesitate to transfer cutting-edge technology to India. And the military now looks less likely to accept equipment that is a step down.

New Delhi had hoped that a shift to domestic production would let it strengthen the military while saving money. For now, though, the country will likely need to keep relying largely on imports.
老仙真是赶上好时候了,感觉好像它一上位,印度的那些研制30+年的设备都出来了,然后都被军方拒收了。。。
如果不支持自己国家的产品,未来不可能有独立自主的国防工业。
如果不支持自己国家的产品,未来不可能有独立自主的国防工业。
国防工业搞出个坑爹货要军队买单,被拒是应该的。体制上允许国防工业这么搞,才是印度需要反思的。
不就是个sa-6国产版么,折腾了这么多年
三哥部队也是无奈
这不是60 70年代的萨姆6么   山寨这么多年才成型?
记得阿卡什纸面性能还是蛮不错的说,当然,三锅的大部分产品,都停留在data sheet阶段了。
pheonix 发表于 2016-5-18 08:10
不就是个sa-6国产版么,折腾了这么多年
慢慢搞,这个才有意思
上海红军战士 发表于 2016-5-18 10:29
记得阿卡什纸面性能还是蛮不错的说,当然,三锅的大部分产品,都停留在data sheet阶段了。
这个妥妥可以有
阿三的不对应该是当心性能不稳定
印度军队拒绝购买LCA
印度军队拒绝购买阿琼
印度军队拒绝购买Akash
。。。
阿三军工牛!
pheonix 发表于 2016-5-18 08:10
不就是个sa-6国产版么,折腾了这么多年
他跟萨姆-6 啥关系啊,外形几乎一模一样啊
研究三十多年的装备,部队要是愿意装备才是有了鬼了。

部队捏着鼻子装备一小批,已经算是非常给面子了,但是印度的研究人员简直是大爷,阿琼二超重严重军方表示过不了桥,科研人员告诉军队桥过不去你绕条路呗总是有办法的。你让军队怎么办。。。。
阿三这些军工企业都是民营企业吧,为么效率这么低?难道是体制问题
记得阿卡什纸面性能还是蛮不错的说,当然,三锅的大部分产品,都停留在data sheet阶段了。
论纸面性能,棒子的k2、k9、k21都不错来着
印度军方应该大买、特卖才对,这一代就算积累经验了,这样企业才有钱进行下一代的研发,而下一代要做到中规中矩八九不离十,这时底子已经打好未来一片光明。
超山猫 发表于 2016-5-18 16:46
他跟萨姆-6 啥关系啊,外形几乎一模一样啊
射程加大了 对低空目标拦截能力加强了 顺便还配了相控阵雷达站
蓝天导弹怎么看都觉得和萨姆6象,不知道是不是参考了萨姆6的发动机和构造,阿三更换了电子元器件的产物。
pheonix 发表于 2016-5-18 08:10
不就是个sa-6国产版么,折腾了这么多年
好像性能还不如原版sa-6
kingcedar 发表于 2016-5-18 17:03
研究三十多年的装备,部队要是愿意装备才是有了鬼了。

部队捏着鼻子装备一小批,已经算是非常给面子了, ...
这个……必须请棒子军事顾问
JudgementDay 发表于 2016-5-19 09:14
好像性能还不如原版sa-6
性能比原版萨姆6还是要好的。
wangpeng0207 发表于 2016-5-19 09:20
性能比原版萨姆6还是要好的。
哦,那我可能记错了

我记得是射程还是射高还差一些
印度军队拒绝购买LCA
印度军队拒绝购买阿琼
印度军队拒绝购买Akash

印度海军拒绝接受老天卫士号航母的情景油然而生
这个防空导弹外形也太奇葩了吧?
哦,那我可能记错了

我记得是射程还是射高还差一些
据说射程增加到40千米,换相控阵雷达了?可能就是射高差吧?
这个防空导弹外形也太奇葩了吧?
仿的萨姆6,应该是冲压弹吧,有进气道,看着和反舰导弹似的,当然奇怪了。。。
超山猫 发表于 2016-5-18 16:46
他跟萨姆-6 啥关系啊,外形几乎一模一样啊
就是萨姆6了,萨姆6 40周年复刻纪念版
elicxxx 发表于 2016-5-20 16:56
就是萨姆6了,萨姆6 40周年复刻纪念版
orz

elic 兄弟别真相了啊~
未来航空兵 发表于 2016-5-20 13:39
据说射程增加到40千米,换相控阵雷达了?可能就是射高差吧?
也才 40 千米啊
也才 40 千米啊
40年前的导弹,能有啥水平啊。。。
未来航空兵 发表于 2016-5-20 18:36
40年前的导弹,能有啥水平啊。。。
未来兄啊,似乎四十年前的萨姆-6 就已经有射程 5-25千米,射高 0.06-10千米了
而印度在 21 世纪复刻时就没多少改进嘛
未来兄啊,似乎四十年前的萨姆-6 就已经有射程 5-25千米,射高 0.06-10千米了
而印度在 21 世纪复刻时就 ...
要知道这是印度,一个神奇的国度啊。。。你见过谁仿制个东西仿它40年,还失败的?
elicxxx 发表于 2016-5-20 16:56
就是萨姆6了,萨姆6 40周年复刻纪念版
这个可以有
未来航空兵 发表于 2016-5-20 19:00
要知道这是印度,一个神奇的国度啊。。。你见过谁仿制个东西仿它40年,还失败的?
也对


beijingfeiyu 发表于 2016-5-18 19:24
阿三这些军工企业都是民营企业吧,为么效率这么低?难道是体制问题
从头开始搞军工。成本,风险和需要的时间都超出私营企业自身的能力
21世纪搞出个山寨萨姆6,三哥也是够拼的。
阿三国就是这么逗!
这是在研究古董仿品?
beijingfeiyu 发表于 2016-5-18 19:24
阿三这些军工企业都是民营企业吧,为么效率这么低?难道是体制问题
阿卡什的设计单位是Defence Research and Development Organisation,是印度国防部直接下辖的武器开发部门。生产厂商有三家: Ordnance Factories Board,Bharat Dynamics,Bharat Electronics,都是印度的国营企业。