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http://www.santaihu.com/2016040302.html
米国网友却不是很有信心。



The U.S. Will Surpass China As the No. 1Country for Manufacturing by 2020

2020年美国将取代中国成为世界第一制造强国

A key theme in this year’s presidentialrace is competitiveness of American industry, though candidates like DonaldTrump and Bernie Sanders tend to use more colorful language when describingtheir belief that the United States has lost its economic edge.

今年总统竞选的一个关键主题就是美国工业的竞争力,尽管在描述美国已经失去经济优势的信念时,川普和桑德斯都喜欢用更加丰富多彩的语言。

Both candidates despise recent trade deals,which they feel have proven that the U.S. can’t compete with countries likeChina and Vietnam, which have far cheaper labor and less onerous environmentalregulations.

两个候选人都鄙视最近的贸易协议,因为他们觉得这些贸易协议证明了美国无法和中国以及越南这样的国家竞争,两国劳动力更加便宜而且环境法规也没有那么严格。

But if you ask actual manufacturingexecutives, they’re far more bullish on America’s future than many of itspolitical leaders. On Thursday, professional services firm Deloitte teamed upwith the Council on Competitiveness torelease its 2016 Global Manufacturing Competitiveness Index, showingthat the United States is the second most competitive manufacturing economyafter China. What’s more, global manufacturing executives predict that by 2020,the United States will be the most competitive manufacturing economy in theworld.

但是如果你询问实际的制造业经理人,他们比很多美国领导人都更加看好美国的未来。周四,德勤会计师事务所和竞争力委员会一起发布了2016年全球制造业竞争力指数,表明美国是位于中国之后的世界第二最具竞争力经济体。此外,全球制造业经理人预测到2020年美国将成为世界上最具竞争力的制造业国家。


美国雅虎读者的评论:

译者:masamaso
来源:龙腾网 http://www.ltaaa.com/bbs/thread-395531-1-1.html
外文:https://www.yahoo.com/finance/ne ... no-1-182043359.html
Harry Kneecaps 1 day ago 5 43
“But if you ask actual manufacturingexecutives, they’re far more bullish on America’s future than many of itspolitical leaders.”
If you believe the corporate executives whosold out American workers youre a fool. The corporate executives have nointention of bringing high volume manufacturing back to the US. It was justrecently that Ford announced plans to outsource truck assembly to Mexico. Oreocookies will now also be made in Mexico. Without intervention manufacturingisnt coming back to the US at any time.

如果你相信将美国工人出卖的企业经理人,那么你就是白痴。企业经理人没有打算将大量制造业重迁美国。福特最近发布计划将卡车装配外包到墨西哥。奥利奥饼干现在也将在墨西哥制造。如果不进行干预,制造业回归美国还早着呢。
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64 Squares 1 day ago 0 54
My business manufactures here in the US andI know for a fact competing with China products isn’t simple but I’m doing itbecause…. America!

我的工厂就位于美国,我知道和中国产品竞争不是一件容易的事情,但是为了美国,我就这么做了!
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Blackfin 1 day ago 3 5
Politicians, and especially GOPpoliticians, REALLY REALLY need to read and understand this article. There isno way the US could retain it’s old labor intensive manufacturing jobs when weare paying $25-$30 per hour to build assembly line widgets. It’s not a case ofcompanies or politicians selling out Americans, it’s just plain old economicsand it can’t be stopped. Same thing happened to buggy whip makers. China isalready experiencing the same thing too as their labor intensive work moves toplaces like Vietnam. The US has moved up the value chain and it is paying off.Off course there are people in the transition who get economically hurt. I amall for help in retraining and support for those people, but demagoguery and35% tariffs are NOT going to bring those low skill jobs back to the US…notever.

政治家尤其是共和党政治家真的应该读读并理解这篇文章。美国不可能保持其老式的劳动密集型制造业就业机会,因为我们的工资水平每小时达25-30美元。这不是企业或者政治家出卖美国的问题,这是古老的经济学,是无法阻止的。(汽车)无线电天线厂家也是如此。中国也在经历同样的事情,即劳动密集型产业搬到了越南。美国走上了价值链的顶端,获得了回报。当然在这个转变的过程中有人会在经济上受损失。我当然支持对这些人进行培训和帮助。但是散布谣言和35%关税是无法将低技能就业带回美国的,永远不能。
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Kedrick 1 day ago 5 32
Does anyone actually believe this?

真的有人相信这篇文章吗?
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pablito 1 day ago 16 29
If Trump is elected president, maybe

如果川普成为总统,或许有可能。
====================================================================
Tony 1 day ago 1 7
Is that why Carrier is moving themanufacturing to Mexico , because they’re so bullish on manufacturing in theU.S. ? How about what’s going on with the company that makes Oreo cookies ?There isn’t much of anything that you can buy that isn’t made in China or someother country . The writer of this article is full of sh-t !

福特将工厂搬到墨西哥,因为他们看好美国制造业?奥利奥公司呢?我们所购买的东西不是来自中国就是来自其他国家,美国本土的都好少。这作者就是胡说八道。
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Michael 1 day ago 3 10
Then maybe the author can explain to me whyI can’t find anything with a made in america tag anymore? And why is it thatmore and more jobs are leaving the US even as I type this? I know the unionshave had a lot to do with this, but, come on, let’s try and deal with realityhere. Without strong laws doling out severe penalties for companies goingoffshore for their manufacturing and those that are staying don’t pay enough tosupport a family of 3.

那请作者告诉我为什么我买不到美国制造的产品呢?为什么有越来越多的就业机会离开美国呢?我知道工会在这件事情上有很大责任,但是得了吧,让我们来解决我们实际面临的问题吧。法律不够严格,没有对将制造业搬到海外的企业进行处罚,而留下来的公司也没能支付足够的工资来支持三口之家。
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Commenter 1 day ago 7 11
Another made up liberal propaganda article,America is dying!

这又是一篇自由主义政治宣传文章,美国正在灭亡!
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Commenter 1 day ago 1 13
If the US is so competitive, why is nearlyeverything we buy made elsewhere?

如果美国真的这么具有竞争力,为什么我们购买的几乎所有东西都是其他国家制造?
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Commenter 1 day ago 8 12
This is only considering Trump is thePresident.

这是考虑到川普成为总统后才能实现的事情。
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Commenter 1 day ago 0 3
The US going to have a hard time to bringback manufacturing ,The government are promoting college education insteadlearning skill .If they bring back the manufacturing from China ,need to bringthe Chinese over to do the job , Unfortunately lots of people looking for jobs.but have no skill nothing to offer .beside college diploma .The proud Americanskill and productivity will die out with the baby boomers

美国将很难把制造业带回美国,政府推行的是大学教育而不是技能教育。如果将制造业从中国带回,那就需要把中国人顺带带过来工作。很多人都在找工作,但是没有所需的技能。美国引以为傲的技能和生产力将和婴儿潮出生的一代人一样灭绝。
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Commenter 1 day ago 0 7
Funny how they don’t even mention Mexico.Manufacturing is booming down there, they are building plants left and right toreplace the ones in the US.

搞笑的是他们都不提墨西哥。墨西哥的制造业正在繁荣发展,他们到处建厂以替代美国工厂。

先附上传送门:
http://www.santaihu.com/2016040302.html
米国网友却不是很有信心。



The U.S. Will Surpass China As the No. 1Country for Manufacturing by 2020

2020年美国将取代中国成为世界第一制造强国

A key theme in this year’s presidentialrace is competitiveness of American industry, though candidates like DonaldTrump and Bernie Sanders tend to use more colorful language when describingtheir belief that the United States has lost its economic edge.

今年总统竞选的一个关键主题就是美国工业的竞争力,尽管在描述美国已经失去经济优势的信念时,川普和桑德斯都喜欢用更加丰富多彩的语言。

Both candidates despise recent trade deals,which they feel have proven that the U.S. can’t compete with countries likeChina and Vietnam, which have far cheaper labor and less onerous environmentalregulations.

两个候选人都鄙视最近的贸易协议,因为他们觉得这些贸易协议证明了美国无法和中国以及越南这样的国家竞争,两国劳动力更加便宜而且环境法规也没有那么严格。

But if you ask actual manufacturingexecutives, they’re far more bullish on America’s future than many of itspolitical leaders. On Thursday, professional services firm Deloitte teamed upwith the Council on Competitiveness torelease its 2016 Global Manufacturing Competitiveness Index, showingthat the United States is the second most competitive manufacturing economyafter China. What’s more, global manufacturing executives predict that by 2020,the United States will be the most competitive manufacturing economy in theworld.

但是如果你询问实际的制造业经理人,他们比很多美国领导人都更加看好美国的未来。周四,德勤会计师事务所和竞争力委员会一起发布了2016年全球制造业竞争力指数,表明美国是位于中国之后的世界第二最具竞争力经济体。此外,全球制造业经理人预测到2020年美国将成为世界上最具竞争力的制造业国家。

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美国雅虎读者的评论:

译者:masamaso
来源:龙腾网 http://www.ltaaa.com/bbs/thread-395531-1-1.html
外文:https://www.yahoo.com/finance/ne ... no-1-182043359.html
Harry Kneecaps 1 day ago 5 43
“But if you ask actual manufacturingexecutives, they’re far more bullish on America’s future than many of itspolitical leaders.”
If you believe the corporate executives whosold out American workers youre a fool. The corporate executives have nointention of bringing high volume manufacturing back to the US. It was justrecently that Ford announced plans to outsource truck assembly to Mexico. Oreocookies will now also be made in Mexico. Without intervention manufacturingisnt coming back to the US at any time.

如果你相信将美国工人出卖的企业经理人,那么你就是白痴。企业经理人没有打算将大量制造业重迁美国。福特最近发布计划将卡车装配外包到墨西哥。奥利奥饼干现在也将在墨西哥制造。如果不进行干预,制造业回归美国还早着呢。
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64 Squares 1 day ago 0 54
My business manufactures here in the US andI know for a fact competing with China products isn’t simple but I’m doing itbecause…. America!

我的工厂就位于美国,我知道和中国产品竞争不是一件容易的事情,但是为了美国,我就这么做了!
====================================================================

Blackfin 1 day ago 3 5
Politicians, and especially GOPpoliticians, REALLY REALLY need to read and understand this article. There isno way the US could retain it’s old labor intensive manufacturing jobs when weare paying $25-$30 per hour to build assembly line widgets. It’s not a case ofcompanies or politicians selling out Americans, it’s just plain old economicsand it can’t be stopped. Same thing happened to buggy whip makers. China isalready experiencing the same thing too as their labor intensive work moves toplaces like Vietnam. The US has moved up the value chain and it is paying off.Off course there are people in the transition who get economically hurt. I amall for help in retraining and support for those people, but demagoguery and35% tariffs are NOT going to bring those low skill jobs back to the US…notever.

政治家尤其是共和党政治家真的应该读读并理解这篇文章。美国不可能保持其老式的劳动密集型制造业就业机会,因为我们的工资水平每小时达25-30美元。这不是企业或者政治家出卖美国的问题,这是古老的经济学,是无法阻止的。(汽车)无线电天线厂家也是如此。中国也在经历同样的事情,即劳动密集型产业搬到了越南。美国走上了价值链的顶端,获得了回报。当然在这个转变的过程中有人会在经济上受损失。我当然支持对这些人进行培训和帮助。但是散布谣言和35%关税是无法将低技能就业带回美国的,永远不能。
====================================================================

Kedrick 1 day ago 5 32
Does anyone actually believe this?

真的有人相信这篇文章吗?
====================================================================

pablito 1 day ago 16 29
If Trump is elected president, maybe

如果川普成为总统,或许有可能。
====================================================================
Tony 1 day ago 1 7
Is that why Carrier is moving themanufacturing to Mexico , because they’re so bullish on manufacturing in theU.S. ? How about what’s going on with the company that makes Oreo cookies ?There isn’t much of anything that you can buy that isn’t made in China or someother country . The writer of this article is full of sh-t !

福特将工厂搬到墨西哥,因为他们看好美国制造业?奥利奥公司呢?我们所购买的东西不是来自中国就是来自其他国家,美国本土的都好少。这作者就是胡说八道。
====================================================================

Michael 1 day ago 3 10
Then maybe the author can explain to me whyI can’t find anything with a made in america tag anymore? And why is it thatmore and more jobs are leaving the US even as I type this? I know the unionshave had a lot to do with this, but, come on, let’s try and deal with realityhere. Without strong laws doling out severe penalties for companies goingoffshore for their manufacturing and those that are staying don’t pay enough tosupport a family of 3.

那请作者告诉我为什么我买不到美国制造的产品呢?为什么有越来越多的就业机会离开美国呢?我知道工会在这件事情上有很大责任,但是得了吧,让我们来解决我们实际面临的问题吧。法律不够严格,没有对将制造业搬到海外的企业进行处罚,而留下来的公司也没能支付足够的工资来支持三口之家。
====================================================================

Commenter 1 day ago 7 11
Another made up liberal propaganda article,America is dying!

这又是一篇自由主义政治宣传文章,美国正在灭亡!
====================================================================

Commenter 1 day ago 1 13
If the US is so competitive, why is nearlyeverything we buy made elsewhere?

如果美国真的这么具有竞争力,为什么我们购买的几乎所有东西都是其他国家制造?
====================================================================

Commenter 1 day ago 8 12
This is only considering Trump is thePresident.

这是考虑到川普成为总统后才能实现的事情。
====================================================================

Commenter 1 day ago 0 3
The US going to have a hard time to bringback manufacturing ,The government are promoting college education insteadlearning skill .If they bring back the manufacturing from China ,need to bringthe Chinese over to do the job , Unfortunately lots of people looking for jobs.but have no skill nothing to offer .beside college diploma .The proud Americanskill and productivity will die out with the baby boomers

美国将很难把制造业带回美国,政府推行的是大学教育而不是技能教育。如果将制造业从中国带回,那就需要把中国人顺带带过来工作。很多人都在找工作,但是没有所需的技能。美国引以为傲的技能和生产力将和婴儿潮出生的一代人一样灭绝。
====================================================================

Commenter 1 day ago 0 7
Funny how they don’t even mention Mexico.Manufacturing is booming down there, they are building plants left and right toreplace the ones in the US.

搞笑的是他们都不提墨西哥。墨西哥的制造业正在繁荣发展,他们到处建厂以替代美国工厂。

我相信能超过中国,因为中国的制造成本,到2020年,不知道会涨到什么程度。想想房价,唉

至于美帝能不能成为第一制造大国,那就是另一回事了。
我们现代在不乐观。
有很多不可预测因素,个人认为断言几年后怎么样,不太靠谱。

大元帅 发表于 2016-4-3 19:29
有很多不可预测因素,个人认为断言几年后怎么样,不太靠谱。


可以机械化生产的、污染很少的、产品出口美帝的中低端制造业,都可以搬到美国去,美国土地、原材料、能源、物流、禾兑等等要素便宜。单个人工、环保、安全生产,这些成本高。

在相对不太发达的地方,美帝地方ZF照样有各种优惠措施。
大元帅 发表于 2016-4-3 19:29
有很多不可预测因素,个人认为断言几年后怎么样,不太靠谱。


可以机械化生产的、污染很少的、产品出口美帝的中低端制造业,都可以搬到美国去,美国土地、原材料、能源、物流、禾兑等等要素便宜。单个人工、环保、安全生产,这些成本高。

在相对不太发达的地方,美帝地方ZF照样有各种优惠措施。
我相信能超过中国,因为中国的制造成本,到2020年,不知道会涨到什么程度。想想房价,唉

至于美帝能不能 ...
房价只在一线城市,这些地方没啥特别制造业
flamdayek 发表于 2016-4-3 21:19
房价只在一线城市,这些地方没啥特别制造业

一线城市的制造业特别发达,这是国情,一线城市,把大部分的社会资源都占了。。。

二线城市的房价也不便宜,与美国相比,房价地价根本没有竞争力。。。
一线城市的制造业特别发达,这是国情,一线城市,把大部分的社会资源都占了。。。

二线城市的房价也 ...
一线城市对国家的反陠也是很厉害的

我提鞑子的大总统传句话,众位隐蔽战线的同志还需要加强业务,创作高质量作品,否则就要降工资了
一线城市的制造业特别发达,这是国情,一线城市,把大部分的社会资源都占了。。。

二线城市的房价也 ...
北京,上海,什么制造?

房价关他们制造什么事情?
一线城市的制造业特别发达,这是国情,一线城市,把大部分的社会资源都占了。。。

二线城市的房价也 ...
一线城市对国家的反陠也是很厉害的

我替鞑子的大总统传句话,众位隐蔽战线的同志还需要加强业务,创作高质量作品,否则就要降工资了
flamdayek 发表于 2016-4-3 21:37
北京,上海,什么制造?

房价关他们制造什么事情?

大的来说,

上海:电子信息、钢铁、石化、汽车、装备、医药
北京:机械、电子、汽车、化工、建材、冶金、医药、食品

大城市谈的早就不是制造什么产品了,而是制造业产业集群了。

皮吸轰 发表于 2016-4-3 21:39
一线城市对国家的反陠也是很厉害的

我替鞑子的大总统传句话,众位隐蔽战线的同志还需要加强业务,创作 ...


认清现实,注意自己的身份,你我都是地球上的小民而已,不必装成哪一国的赵家人,阿Q就是阿Q,在哪国也不配姓赵。。。

愿意讨论就讨论,不愿意讨论也不必装

当然了,如果你不是阿Q,真的是哪国土豪,愿意给超大/*捐/*点钱,我为你点赞。。。
皮吸轰 发表于 2016-4-3 21:39
一线城市对国家的反陠也是很厉害的

我替鞑子的大总统传句话,众位隐蔽战线的同志还需要加强业务,创作 ...


认清现实,注意自己的身份,你我都是地球上的小民而已,不必装成哪一国的赵家人,阿Q就是阿Q,在哪国也不配姓赵。。。

愿意讨论就讨论,不愿意讨论也不必装

当然了,如果你不是阿Q,真的是哪国土豪,愿意给超大/*捐/*点钱,我为你点赞。。。
说房价的   你自己非要呆在一线城市怪谁?     
你看我在绍兴和杭州建德两套房     一套90平   一套128平      合起来也比不上北京一个30平米的学区房昂贵            
讲道理 很多普通人  本身能力不够  就不应该呆在北京       非要挤到天子脚下干什么?       天高皇帝远的地方反而没有人把你当P民看    因为举目望去你周围的人都是和你一样的P民      
这制造业的讨论都能谈成房价了?最多也就是谈一下土地成本的事。
tayol20 发表于 2016-4-3 22:18
认清现实,注意自己的身份,你我都是地球上的小民而已,不必装成哪一国的赵家人,阿Q就是阿Q,在哪国也 ...

娱乐精神哪里去了?在这个从主题到内容都充满荒诞欢乐的娱乐贴里,我最后跟你说一句:你高兴就好~~~
娱乐精神哪里去了?在这个从主题到内容都充满荒诞欢乐的娱乐贴里,我最后跟你说一句:你高兴就 ...
哈哈,我就喜欢娱乐,喜欢找小粉红娱乐。。。
我们这里领着一两千块工资的比美帝领失业金的钱多多少了?
北京,上海,什么制造?

房价关他们制造什么事情?
北京不知道?052D和未来的055都在上海造
认清现实,注意自己的身份,你我都是地球上的小民而已,不必装成哪一国的赵家人,阿Q就是阿Q,在哪国也 ...

真相真是这样残酷,阿Q到了美帝也不配姓克林顿...
导弹与捣蛋 发表于 2016-4-4 13:40
真相真是这样残酷,阿Q到了美帝也不配姓克林顿...
不过,美国阿Q,可以投票给克林顿。。。
反正现在波音等一些大企业在裁员,美国自己看着办吧
不过,美国阿Q,可以投票给克林顿。。。

美国阿Q的工作丢了,克林顿说都被中国阿Q抢去了


怎么可能,耐克打算自己在家开厂么。

怎么可能,耐克打算自己在家开厂么。
王传福大致算过中国大陆一个理工科大学毕业生硕士研究生月工资在2500-6500,只有400到1000美元,大致上美国的八到十分之一。中高端制造业中能源消耗成本占比更低,制造业集聚及与制造相关的基础设施配套方面中国显然更占优势。

美国需要认真考虑如何守住高端制造业阵地才是正途,中低端的得等到美国崩溃之后的很多年了。