超级军网zt巴林航展上的印度国产光辉战斗机
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难道三哥还打算往出卖？
这个小飞机就别出来丢人现眼了。
很好奇，三哥的锡克教徒到了巴林咋吃饭
涂装比八爷好看
纯阴谋的话，不排除别国强制要求几个傀儡国家购买LCA，以压制枭龙的海外销售。
阿三因为盟军的带领，一直认为错误的认为自己走在了世界的前列。
殊不知自身的诸多问题根本性的决定了他
小姐的心,丫鬟的命
阿三因为盟军的带领，一直认为错误的认为自己走在了世界的前列。
殊不知自身的诸多问题根本性的决定了他
小姐的心,丫鬟的命
小身板，基本是干啥都不合格
美帝眼中的我们就好像我们眼中的三哥。。。星辰大海，我们的路还长着呢
光辉战斗机没摔下来, 三哥要还神了
自己国家的空军都拒绝订购的飞机，谁用谁倒霉，
一贯的风格，比较喜欢炫耀的文化传统了
这飞机研制时定位搞错了 太小了 而且竟然搞了这么长时间。
三哥的光辉就像个风筝一样。
2016-1-20 10:39 上传
Some interesting snippets from Tejas FB page all in Jan 2016.. They do answer questions !!!
Address: Tejas - LCA
Q: Whats MK1A
A: Tejas - LCA MK1A will primarily address the maintenance issues plus the gun integration, AESA radar integration, BVR integration (whenever IAF gives a clear indication on the kind of BVR) etc..
Q: what are the potential BVR missiles under consideration? Derby + Astra?
A: Tejas - LCA ASTRA for sure. LCA Derby will be for the naval version.
Q: how the new quartz radome frm cobham test is going on. Any timeline for SP-2 in coming days.
A: Tejas - LCA SP 2 will come up soon. Cobham radome ground integration checks are over. The actual flight testing will commence soon.
Q: question related to CG. Is Mk1 still flying around with a 300kg ballast. Or is this a modern myth.
A: Tejas - LCA Flies with ballast but the no is not this big in number.
Q: And this is expected to come down after the IFR probe is bolted on? Is it likely that this ballast is completely done away with restructuring and reorganizing the LRUs/MLG on the Mk1A. Reports claim so. I have learnt not to believe reports. Of course. I just meant ballast commiserate to the weight of just the probe to be added will come off
A: Tejas - LCA You are absolutely right, Sir. The IFR probe will reduce the ballast weight. As currently, only the prototypes are flying, the ballast is a variable. Once, the final version, rather the frozen SOP starts flying, things will streamline. Sir, the last of the LSPs are getting modified for the IFR probe.
Q: Your gun integration on Mk1A has fluttered some feathers. Won't Mk1 have a gun?
A: Tejas - LCA The gun integration was initially part of mark1. However, will be done post FOC thereby appropriately for mark 1A.
All other programs, gun is the first store to be integrated onto a fighter simply because the uncertain modifications it demands post testing. The other program houses will never reveal the experiences which they have earned in a harder way. Same is applied to us too.
However, the initial integration activity shows promise. It is only a matter of when will the prototype be offered to carry out the modifications.
Q: what is the reason for the slow integration of the sp series aircraft been waiting for the sp 2 and 3...also are we moving closer wrt to naval lca LG weight issue
A:Tejas - LCA You are right. The undercarriage issue has been creating sort of delay in everything. The sp1 not flying is one of them. However, the issue has been left behind and things will be better in the days to come.
Q: Is it true that there are issues with the landing gear..there were some news reports about this..(dint believe the reports..)
A :Tejas - LCA Please understand that any design bound to have problems and remains to be seen how do we solve it. All the aircraft programs all over the world have undergone this process. Yes, there were problems and got sorted out too. Please be assured that the correct picture can be seen only when it is seen and understood from close quartet. Reports are always exaggerated or according to the convince to the reporting agency.
Q: There are press reports that LSP-4/7 that're off to Bahrain Air show, would perform the BVR firing (Derby) tests for FOC after they have returned from it (i.e. post 23-Jan). Question is, does this mean that LSP-4/7 are already retrofitted with Cobham built quartz radomes - or are they going to go ahead with BVR testing with the old ASLs Kevlar based radome?
A: Tejas - LCA Lsp4 and lsp7 are heading for bahrain and on the return leg, lsp7 will fire bvr. Cobham radome ground testing is on. Flight test will commence soon. BVR firing is without this.
Q: why are we experiencing delay in SP manufacturing.By now we should have 4 SP flying.Is there change in plan as to Whether these SP will IOC or FOC standard or are these modified to SOP-18 fighter.Please clarify ,i hope its the latter.
A: Tejas - LCA The directive as of now is that the first 20 ac will be with present configuration. The rest no is with SOP-18. This is,a wise decision looking at the time line HAL is seeking. The mark 1A needs all heavy gun's interference and an honest dedicated effort from all to realize.
And coming to delay in SP is because there are still grey areas in getting the finalized production version of all the components. The no runs to couple of thousands. All said done, delay is primarily because of lack of a clear cut directive. If you look at mirage 2000 induction, the integration of sensors was a continuous process whereas it is expected from tejas to have everything in the beginning itself, which is a tough ask.
Q: Will 4 SPs be produced by end of this financial year as per the target?
A: Tejas - LCA That's the target. 3 is a possible no.
Q: sir, regarding sop18 or mk1a is it really true we are looking to reduce weight of aircraft by 800kgs??
A: Tejas - LCA I doubt this figure, sir.
Q: What are issues with LCA for integration of gun ? As it is very important for any fighter jet.
A: Tejas - LCA Priorities. As of now, proving the capabilities to fire a BVR has taken the attention. Air Force is not much keen on GSH-23.
Q: In earlier post you mentioned integration of Gsh 23 is deferred. I thought ground runs of gun firing from Tejas has been already done? So what has been deferred, is it in flight test firing of gun or actual gsh 23 has been removed all together from LCA, for now?
>Are private companies being roped in for commercial production of numerous components?
>Last what missile the Tejas is carrying on outboard pylons? Doesnt seem r73 or even python, are they smoke generator pods?
A: Tejas - LCA Answer to q1 - you are right. The ground integration checks called butt firing tests have been done. The required structural mod also have been done. The prototype has been identified. It is the directive of IAF towards FOC requirement has been under discussion.
Answer to q2 will be political from our side, hence would like to avoid. Hope, you excuse us..
Answer to Q3 - yes, they are smoke winders normally uninstalled to produce smoke during demonstrations and specific flight testing task.
Address: Tejas - LCA
Q: Whats MK1A
A: Tejas - LCA MK1A will primarily address the maintenance issues plus the gun integration, AESA radar integration, BVR integration (whenever IAF gives a clear indication on the kind of BVR) etc..
Q: what are the potential BVR missiles under consideration? Derby + Astra?
A: Tejas - LCA ASTRA for sure. LCA Derby will be for the naval version.
Q: how the new quartz radome frm cobham test is going on. Any timeline for SP-2 in coming days.
A: Tejas - LCA SP 2 will come up soon. Cobham radome ground integration checks are over. The actual flight testing will commence soon.
Q: question related to CG. Is Mk1 still flying around with a 300kg ballast. Or is this a modern myth.
A: Tejas - LCA Flies with ballast but the no is not this big in number.
Q: And this is expected to come down after the IFR probe is bolted on? Is it likely that this ballast is completely done away with restructuring and reorganizing the LRUs/MLG on the Mk1A. Reports claim so. I have learnt not to believe reports. Of course. I just meant ballast commiserate to the weight of just the probe to be added will come off
A: Tejas - LCA You are absolutely right, Sir. The IFR probe will reduce the ballast weight. As currently, only the prototypes are flying, the ballast is a variable. Once, the final version, rather the frozen SOP starts flying, things will streamline. Sir, the last of the LSPs are getting modified for the IFR probe.
Q: Your gun integration on Mk1A has fluttered some feathers. Won't Mk1 have a gun?
A: Tejas - LCA The gun integration was initially part of mark1. However, will be done post FOC thereby appropriately for mark 1A.
All other programs, gun is the first store to be integrated onto a fighter simply because the uncertain modifications it demands post testing. The other program houses will never reveal the experiences which they have earned in a harder way. Same is applied to us too.
However, the initial integration activity shows promise. It is only a matter of when will the prototype be offered to carry out the modifications.
Q: what is the reason for the slow integration of the sp series aircraft been waiting for the sp 2 and 3...also are we moving closer wrt to naval lca LG weight issue
A:Tejas - LCA You are right. The undercarriage issue has been creating sort of delay in everything. The sp1 not flying is one of them. However, the issue has been left behind and things will be better in the days to come.
Q: Is it true that there are issues with the landing gear..there were some news reports about this..(dint believe the reports..)
A :Tejas - LCA Please understand that any design bound to have problems and remains to be seen how do we solve it. All the aircraft programs all over the world have undergone this process. Yes, there were problems and got sorted out too. Please be assured that the correct picture can be seen only when it is seen and understood from close quartet. Reports are always exaggerated or according to the convince to the reporting agency.
Q: There are press reports that LSP-4/7 that're off to Bahrain Air show, would perform the BVR firing (Derby) tests for FOC after they have returned from it (i.e. post 23-Jan). Question is, does this mean that LSP-4/7 are already retrofitted with Cobham built quartz radomes - or are they going to go ahead with BVR testing with the old ASLs Kevlar based radome?
A: Tejas - LCA Lsp4 and lsp7 are heading for bahrain and on the return leg, lsp7 will fire bvr. Cobham radome ground testing is on. Flight test will commence soon. BVR firing is without this.
Q: why are we experiencing delay in SP manufacturing.By now we should have 4 SP flying.Is there change in plan as to Whether these SP will IOC or FOC standard or are these modified to SOP-18 fighter.Please clarify ,i hope its the latter.
A: Tejas - LCA The directive as of now is that the first 20 ac will be with present configuration. The rest no is with SOP-18. This is,a wise decision looking at the time line HAL is seeking. The mark 1A needs all heavy gun's interference and an honest dedicated effort from all to realize.
And coming to delay in SP is because there are still grey areas in getting the finalized production version of all the components. The no runs to couple of thousands. All said done, delay is primarily because of lack of a clear cut directive. If you look at mirage 2000 induction, the integration of sensors was a continuous process whereas it is expected from tejas to have everything in the beginning itself, which is a tough ask.
Q: Will 4 SPs be produced by end of this financial year as per the target?
A: Tejas - LCA That's the target. 3 is a possible no.
Q: sir, regarding sop18 or mk1a is it really true we are looking to reduce weight of aircraft by 800kgs??
A: Tejas - LCA I doubt this figure, sir.
Q: What are issues with LCA for integration of gun ? As it is very important for any fighter jet.
A: Tejas - LCA Priorities. As of now, proving the capabilities to fire a BVR has taken the attention. Air Force is not much keen on GSH-23.
Q: In earlier post you mentioned integration of Gsh 23 is deferred. I thought ground runs of gun firing from Tejas has been already done? So what has been deferred, is it in flight test firing of gun or actual gsh 23 has been removed all together from LCA, for now?
>Are private companies being roped in for commercial production of numerous components?
>Last what missile the Tejas is carrying on outboard pylons? Doesnt seem r73 or even python, are they smoke generator pods?
A: Tejas - LCA Answer to q1 - you are right. The ground integration checks called butt firing tests have been done. The required structural mod also have been done. The prototype has been identified. It is the directive of IAF towards FOC requirement has been under discussion.
Answer to q2 will be political from our side, hence would like to avoid. Hope, you excuse us..
Answer to Q3 - yes, they are smoke winders normally uninstalled to produce smoke during demonstrations and specific flight testing task.
好歹飞起来了，整个项目也完整的活下来了，人家自己的团队也慢慢起来了，一说三哥就是各种嘲讽，美国人1990年看我们都没有这么自大过，还动不动来一个威胁了刺激刺激自己的民众
mm6fan 发表于 2016-1-20 10:39
Those hoping for a LCA - JF 17 face off in Bahrain likely to be disappointed. Pak plane not on the ...
？？不能参与？？
消息可靠不？
Those hoping for a LCA - JF 17 face off in Bahrain likely to be disappointed. Pak plane not on the ...
？？不能参与？？
消息可靠不？
The “Made-for Bahrain” display routine will test the Tejas’ limits in vertical climbs, high-speed runs, tight turns and the fighter’s slow flying ability.
With the flight-test programme having recently cleared the Tejas for 8G turns (which create stresses on the aircraft that are eight times the force of gravity), the performance at Bahrain will include two 8G turns in front of the display stand.
With the flight-test programme having recently cleared the Tejas for 8G turns (which create stresses on the aircraft that are eight times the force of gravity), the performance at Bahrain will include two 8G turns in front of the display stand.
su27xiaomao 发表于 2016-1-20 10:43
好歹飞起来了，整个项目也完整的活下来了，人家自己的团队也慢慢起来了，一说三哥就是各种嘲讽，美国人1990 ...
90年还没有网络，所以那会儿美国人如何自大，没几个中国人知道，但现在不一样。美国人的自大不是单单瞧不起中国人，是谁都瞧不起，另外告诉你，美国人嘲讽阿三，一点都不比兔子逊色。
好歹飞起来了，整个项目也完整的活下来了，人家自己的团队也慢慢起来了，一说三哥就是各种嘲讽，美国人1990 ...
90年还没有网络，所以那会儿美国人如何自大，没几个中国人知道，但现在不一样。美国人的自大不是单单瞧不起中国人，是谁都瞧不起，另外告诉你，美国人嘲讽阿三，一点都不比兔子逊色。
法国吹的气动 米帝的发动机
组合起来是那么的民主
三锅这次各种吹捧啊，本穷都不敢继续往下转了
刚看到一篇三锅文，说小巴怕在这种直接比对中太丢面子，因为会明显看出小龙和光辉的代差，还说光辉将会展示小龙所不具备高机动性和隐身性，然后吹捧了哈光辉这次飞行表演中将会展示的8G机动。
刚看到一篇三锅文，说小巴怕在这种直接比对中太丢面子，因为会明显看出小龙和光辉的代差，还说光辉将会展示小龙所不具备高机动性和隐身性，然后吹捧了哈光辉这次飞行表演中将会展示的8G机动。
不知道枭龙能不能干得过。
好歹飞起来了，整个项目也完整的活下来了，人家自己的团队也慢慢起来了，一说三哥就是各种嘲讽，美国人1990 ...
你这又是为了对比而对比了，美国嘲笑中国装备过时多少年了，威胁论代表什么？90年中国真心没有什么能刺激到人家。朝鲜还是美国的威胁呢，你真信？总有些人打着料敌从宽的帽子用“好歹”、“至少”来评价别人，而永远苛责甚至攻击自己的工作者，这个世界上唯一能堵住别人嘲笑的嘴的只有自己的实力，别扯美国人，去三哥、鬼子网络看看此刻他们是不是各种嘲笑中国武器？别拿中国的网评和美国的官话对比，错位对比得出的结论没有意义。
你这又是为了对比而对比了，美国嘲笑中国装备过时多少年了，威胁论代表什么？90年中国真心没有什么能刺激到人家。朝鲜还是美国的威胁呢，你真信？总有些人打着料敌从宽的帽子用“好歹”、“至少”来评价别人，而永远苛责甚至攻击自己的工作者，这个世界上唯一能堵住别人嘲笑的嘴的只有自己的实力，别扯美国人，去三哥、鬼子网络看看此刻他们是不是各种嘲笑中国武器？别拿中国的网评和美国的官话对比，错位对比得出的结论没有意义。
这个项目真没什么前途，莫迪要求军队买，军队都不买账，莫迪大法失效了。这是准备拿出去骗钱了，自己准备要放弃了，以后苏30、35，T50，还有阵风哪个不比这鸡肋强得多，三哥也不傻。
su27xiaomao 发表于 2016-1-20 10:43
好歹飞起来了，整个项目也完整的活下来了，人家自己的团队也慢慢起来了，一说三哥就是各种嘲讽，美国人1990 ...
1990年没有威胁论，太渣了
好歹飞起来了，整个项目也完整的活下来了，人家自己的团队也慢慢起来了，一说三哥就是各种嘲讽，美国人1990 ...
1990年没有威胁论，太渣了
好小，应该叫轻型运动飞机
有法国血统吗，看着有点像幻影？
航展的时候小巴用枭龙打下一家LCA就好了。
mscfly 发表于 2016-1-20 09:24
难道三哥还打算往出卖？
这个有点意思
难道三哥还打算往出卖？
这个有点意思
库兹涅佐夫上将 发表于 2016-1-20 10:00
很好奇，三哥的锡克教徒到了巴林咋吃饭
人家有办法忽悠
很好奇，三哥的锡克教徒到了巴林咋吃饭
人家有办法忽悠
独狐老狼 发表于 2016-1-20 10:12
美帝眼中的我们就好像我们眼中的三哥。。。星辰大海，我们的路还长着呢
兔子是在隐形中崛起
美帝眼中的我们就好像我们眼中的三哥。。。星辰大海，我们的路还长着呢
兔子是在隐形中崛起
jwus 发表于 2016-1-20 10:37
三哥的光辉就像个风筝一样。
到处飘啊飘？？
三哥的光辉就像个风筝一样。
到处飘啊飘？？
好歹飞起来了，整个项目也完整的活下来了，人家自己的团队也慢慢起来了，一说三哥就是各种嘲讽，美国人1990 ...
怎么活？是印度空军都不愿采购吗？
怎么活？是印度空军都不愿采购吗？
不知道枭龙能不能干得过。
自己去看数据！打打就知道了
自己去看数据！打打就知道了
南极冰 发表于 2016-1-20 12:17
有法国血统吗，看着有点像幻影？
法国吹的气动。。你懂的。
有法国血统吗，看着有点像幻影？
法国吹的气动。。你懂的。
自己国家的空军都拒绝订购的飞机，谁用谁倒霉，
青色的雪 发表于 2016-1-20 11:24
你这又是为了对比而对比了，美国嘲笑中国装备过时多少年了，威胁论代表什么？90年中国真心没有什么能刺激 ...
料敌从宽，理中客党真是啧啧，新浪军事一篇印度海军司令视察航母建造进度，底下的评论甚至有说:"别看不起人家，工业差距已经缩短为5年了.“
你这又是为了对比而对比了，美国嘲笑中国装备过时多少年了，威胁论代表什么？90年中国真心没有什么能刺激 ...
料敌从宽，理中客党真是啧啧，新浪军事一篇印度海军司令视察航母建造进度，底下的评论甚至有说:"别看不起人家，工业差距已经缩短为5年了.“
这烟拉的不怎么样，但也盖过飞机的风头；枭龙表演时拉出的涡流就漂亮多了，和漂亮的飞机相得益彰。
拍的很漂亮~~~
估计三哥自己都捏把汗，千万别在巴林掉下来