从CNN正式新闻稿分析是否进入12海里

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U.S. warship sails close to Chinese artificial island in South China Sea
By Jim Sciutto and Barbara Starr, CNN
Updated 0502 GMT (1302 HKT) October 27, 2015
Washington (CNN)The United States sent a warship very close to one of China's artificial islands in the South China Sea on Tuesday, a potential challenge to Beijing's territorial claims in the contested waters.

A U.S. defense official told CNN that the destroyer USS Lassen "conducted a transit" within 12 nautical miles of Subi Reef in the Spratly Islands on Tuesday morning local time.
引用自:http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/26/politics/south-china-sea-islands-u-s-destroyer/index.html
从CNN这段正式新闻稿来看,CNN使用的是"very close"而不是“disputed”和“passed”,应该能够说明目前只有两种可能:CNN也没有确切消息是不是进入12海里,或者CNN有确切消息没有进入12海里。
以上内容仅供参考。U.S. warship sails close to Chinese artificial island in South China Sea
By Jim Sciutto and Barbara Starr, CNN
Updated 0502 GMT (1302 HKT) October 27, 2015
Washington (CNN)The United States sent a warship very close to one of China's artificial islands in the South China Sea on Tuesday, a potential challenge to Beijing's territorial claims in the contested waters.

A U.S. defense official told CNN that the destroyer USS Lassen "conducted a transit" within 12 nautical miles of Subi Reef in the Spratly Islands on Tuesday morning local time.
引用自:http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/26/politics/south-china-sea-islands-u-s-destroyer/index.html
从CNN这段正式新闻稿来看,CNN使用的是"very close"而不是“disputed”和“passed”,应该能够说明目前只有两种可能:CNN也没有确切消息是不是进入12海里,或者CNN有确切消息没有进入12海里。
以上内容仅供参考。
不用回避 ~  先到狒沸实控的中业岛 ,再去仁爱礁 逛逛 ~ 靠近南海中国的渚碧礁和美济礁十二海里范围 穿越任务 顺利完成 ~



这些岛礁 中间都没有20海里 ~ 贴边穿穿 都过了 ~
hong100hong 发表于 2015-10-27 14:42
不用回避 ~  先到狒沸实控的中业岛 ,再去仁爱礁 逛逛 ~ 靠近南海中国的渚碧礁和美济礁十二海里范围 穿越任 ...
不管怎么进的,现在到底是画圈擦边还是passes是个比较敏感的问题
angirla 发表于 2015-10-27 14:47
不管怎么进的,现在到底是画圈擦边还是passes是个比较敏感的问题
当然是穿呀~ 还要继续穿来穿去~
hong100hong 发表于 2015-10-27 14:50
当然是穿呀~ 还要继续穿来穿去~
那就把周围的都填了算了,避免战略误判。
very close等于说没有进,我晕,什么时候美帝也开始打擦边球了?
angirla 发表于 2015-10-27 14:51
那就把周围的都填了算了,避免战略误判。
完全正确 ~ 对策就是继续磨刀~  

hong100hong 发表于 2015-10-27 14:42
不用回避 ~  先到狒沸实控的中业岛 ,再去仁爱礁 逛逛 ~ 靠近南海中国的渚碧礁和美济礁十二海里范围 穿越任 ...


比较倾向于这个说法。。经由两个相邻岛礁的中间线穿过,我赞成接着填。。
hong100hong 发表于 2015-10-27 14:42
不用回避 ~  先到狒沸实控的中业岛 ,再去仁爱礁 逛逛 ~ 靠近南海中国的渚碧礁和美济礁十二海里范围 穿越任 ...


比较倾向于这个说法。。经由两个相邻岛礁的中间线穿过,我赞成接着填。。
认真的老百姓 发表于 2015-10-27 14:51
very close等于说没有进,我晕,什么时候美帝也开始打擦边球了?
词义很模糊,我估计是CNN自己也没拿到一手资料。
到底进没进?能不能进?有没有领海主权?都是在捣糨糊!
进了如何??(骂道:TG真没用,被人进了领海都不作声。)

没进又如何?(欢呼:看看,美帝是纸老虎吧,TG威武。)

结果,还不是下班回家陪老婆,带孩子,洗碗,拖地。

所以以平常心来对待。
hong100hong 发表于 2015-10-27 14:42
不用回避 ~  先到狒沸实控的中业岛 ,再去仁爱礁 逛逛 ~ 靠近南海中国的渚碧礁和美济礁十二海里范围 穿越任 ...
所以说美帝机智选这个地方玩擦边球
-东京大屠杀- 发表于 2015-10-27 14:59
进了如何??(骂道:TG真没用,被人进了领海都不作声。)

没进又如何?(欢呼:看看,美帝是纸老虎吧, ...
说得好,安心填岛才是正道
我有知识我自豪 发表于 2015-10-27 15:01
所以说美帝机智选这个地方玩擦边球
早就知道 美军舰 必进 ~ 只没料到 2周时间超过了 2天才行动~ 害输了~   鄙视美帝~
-东京大屠杀- 发表于 2015-10-27 14:59
进了如何??(骂道:TG真没用,被人进了领海都不作声。)

没进又如何?(欢呼:看看,美帝是纸老虎吧, ...
就是,反正真打起来,别说12海里,美帝驱逐舰1200海里都不一定会过来
几家主要港媒,包括反共最积极的毒果到目前都没有发明确进入的消息,推特上也没有确切消息。
如果真进了,这对它们是一颗子弹,一场狂欢,它们怎么可能放过这次机会。
所以,倾向为没有进入。
十万天兵 发表于 2015-10-27 15:09
几家主要港媒,包括反共最积极的毒果到目前都没有发明确进入的消息,推特上也没有确切消息。
如果真进了, ...
关键是中方只能使用“入侵临近海域”这种措辞。说进了,那是自认打脸;说没进,难道这种事情还能拍胸庆幸?那比打脸还惨。所以只能板着脸说临近海域,到底进没进你们自己猜吧。
十万天兵 发表于 2015-10-27 15:09
几家主要港媒,包括反共最积极的毒果到目前都没有发明确进入的消息,推特上也没有确切消息。
如果真进了, ...
渚碧礁 和 中业岛 中间才隔13多海里 ~ 几分钟 穿穿就算进了12海里范围了 ~  这么容易 还没风险的事情 美军舰会不做~
抗议都抗议了,还在讨论进了没有。观网消息:
10月27日,美国海军驱逐舰“拉森号”未经中国政府允许,非法进入中国南沙群岛渚碧礁12海里。中国外交部今天迅速做出回应:中方有关部门依法对美方舰艇实施了监视、跟踪和警告。美方军舰有关行为威胁中国主权和安全利益,危及岛礁人员及设施安全,损害地区和平稳定。中方对此表示强烈不满和坚决反对。
外交部估计也没啥准信儿吧,也就只是知道南边有艘美国船在那儿晃荡
呵呵哒,一个大大的within还不能说明问题?
不用那么费脑筋去想,真会咬人的狗,会提前一个多月天天叫喊?这分明是胆怯么,天底下哪有这么个咬人法的。
angirla 发表于 2015-10-27 15:12
关键是中方只能使用“入侵临近海域”这种措辞。说进了,那是自认打脸;说没进,难道这种事情还能拍胸庆幸 ...
没划领海基线,所以用临近海域这个词
进不进岛就在那里,越变越大
hong100hong 发表于 2015-10-27 15:06
早就知道 美军舰 必进 ~ 只没料到 2周时间超过了 2天才行动~ 害输了~   鄙视美帝~
话说回来如果没超时你怎么证明美帝是进12海里了呢?毕竟至今没确凿的证据。到时候要变成撕逼大战。
-东京大屠杀- 发表于 2015-10-27 14:59
进了如何??(骂道:TG真没用,被人进了领海都不作声。)

没进又如何?(欢呼:看看,美帝是纸老虎吧, ...
呵呵,其实是滴
十万天兵 发表于 2015-10-27 15:09
几家主要港媒,包括反共最积极的毒果到目前都没有发明确进入的消息,推特上也没有确切消息。
如果真进了, ...
别再说啦,说的美国下不了台,硬着头皮进,就没意思了,好歹人家是地球村黑社会老大。面子还是要的


中国画一个12海里圈,美国虚晃一枪到现在进没进还没确定呢。喷子也画了个圈,大家是不是也没必要再在里面巡航了?

中国画一个12海里圈,美国虚晃一枪到现在进没进还没确定呢。喷子也画了个圈,大家是不是也没必要再在里面巡航了?
我有知识我自豪 发表于 2015-10-27 15:32
话说回来如果没超时你怎么证明美帝是进12海里了呢?毕竟至今没确凿的证据。到时候要变成撕逼大战。
会继续发酵 ~ 后续会有搭记者过来穿的的行动 ~  12海里太容易了,还不会有风险~ 让记者搭舰去中业岛,绝对比这更进一步~
这个是不是戴套不算强奸的美国国防部版?
如果侵入非我国占领的南海九段线内岛礁领海,TG应该怎样发声?是否也要严正抗议,以体现其为我领土领海呢?
也可能习大大访美时都和奥黑说好了,大家合作演场戏,美帝赢了面子,兔子赢了里子(继续搞好岛上基建,美帝默认了)!!
呵呵,这是原话哈“A U.S. defense official told CNN that the destroyer USS Lassen "conducted a transit" within 12 nautical miles of Subi Reef in the Spratly Islands on Tuesday morning local time.”,翻译过来是:“以为国防部官员告诉CNN,当地时间星期二早上,拉森号驱逐舰在斯普拉特里群岛的苏碧礁12海里内“进行了一次穿越通过””。这难道是还不确定是否进入???
lbqsv 发表于 2015-10-27 15:53
如果侵入非我国占领的南海九段线内岛礁领海,TG应该怎样发声?是否也要严正抗议,以体现其为我领土领海呢?
下一个问题该是如何玩双标了。。不然苏岩礁怎么办。。

你让别人承认渚碧礁边渚碧岛,有12海里领海,那么棒子会不会跳出来问我们要“苏岩岛”的12海里?

考验上面智慧和用双重标准的魄力的时候到了。
认真的老百姓 发表于 2015-10-27 14:51
very close等于说没有进,我晕,什么时候美帝也开始打擦边球了?
刚我也在想这个,
还有标题那个时间我也晕着呢
漏斗子 发表于 2015-10-27 15:28
不用那么费脑筋去想,真会咬人的狗,会提前一个多月天天叫喊?这分明是胆怯么,天底下哪有这么个咬人法的。
人家的目的,是打着航行自由的旗号,弄给小弟看的:瞧,老大我还是能治那个土鳖的。
这年头,小弟不好带啊,老大都得赤膊上阵,不然小弟就都散了。
(CNN)China said it warned and tracked a U.S. Navy warship as it came very close to one of China's artificial islands in contested waters in the South China Sea on Tuesday, slamming the patrol as "illegal."
(CNN)表示,中国警告和跟踪一艘美国海军的军舰,因为它是非常接近中国的人工岛屿在周二在南中国海有争议海域,抨击巡逻的“非法”。


China's Foreign Ministry said in a statement that the vessel "illegally entered into the waters of China's Spratly Islands."
中国外交部在一份声明中表示,该船“非法进入中国海域的南沙群岛。”


"The action taken by the U.S. warship has threatened China's sovereignty and security interest, and has put the safety of personnel on the reefs in danger," the ministry said.
“行动由美国军舰威胁中国的主权和安全利益,并把安全人员在珊瑚礁的危险,”。


A U.S. defense official told CNN that the destroyer USS Lassen "conducted a transit" within 12 nautical miles of Subi Reef in the Spratly Islands on Tuesday morning local time.
一位美国国防部官员告诉CNN,驱逐舰拉森“进行了交通”在12海里Subi礁的南沙群岛当地时间周二早上。


The operation put the ship within an area that would be considered Chinese sovereign territory if the U.S. recognized the man-made islands as being Chinese territory, the official added.
操作把船在一个区域,将被视为中国领土主权如果美国公认的人造岛屿是中国领土,这位官员补充道。


Why are the United States and China frenemies?
为什么美国和中国盟友?


Why are the United States and China frenemies?  02:25
为什么美国和中国盟友?02:25
The United States hadn't breached the 12-mile limit since China began massive dredging operations to turn three reefs into artificial islands in 2014 -- even though maritime law doesn't usually accord territorial waters to islands built on previously submerged reefs.
美国没有违反了12英里的限制自中国开始大规模疏浚操作三个珊瑚礁变成人工岛屿在2014年——尽管海事法通常不会协议领海岛屿建立在先前暗礁。


Rival claims
竞争对手声称
The South China Sea is the subject of numerous rival and often messy territorial claims, with China, Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam disputing sovereignty of several island chains and nearby waters.
南中国海是众多竞争对手的主题,常常混乱的领土要求,与中国、文莱、马来西亚、菲律宾、台湾和越南争议的几个岛屿链和附近海域的主权。


In little more than 18 months, China has reclaimed more than 2,000 acres at three main locations in the Spratly Islands -- Subi, Mischief and Fiery Cross reefs, where it's building airstrips thought to be capable of handling bombers.
在不到18个月,中国收回超过2000英亩在南沙群岛三个主要位置,Subi恶作剧和血十字珊瑚礁,建设飞机跑道被认为是能够处理轰炸机。


China's Foreign Ministry reiterated that its activity in the South China Sea didn't affect freedom of navigation by sea or air but said it held "indisputable sovereignty over the Spratly Islands and its nearby waters."
中国外交部重申,其活动在南中国海没有影响海上航行自由或空气但表示,“在南沙群岛及其附近海域无可争辩的主权。”


"China is resolutely opposed to any country damaging China's sovereignty and security interest in the name of freedom of navigation and overflight," it said.
“中国是坚决反对任何国家损害中国的主权和安全利益的名义航行和飞越自由,”它说。


In May, a U.S. surveillance plane carrying a CNN crew swooped over the Spratly Islands, triggering eight warnings from the Chinese navy to back off.
今年5月,美国侦察飞机携带CNN船员掠过南沙群岛上空,引发八警告中国海军。


Chinese navy ships entered U.S. territorial waters off Alaska in September, coming within 12 miles of the coastline during President Barack Obama's visit to the state, U.S. officials told CNN at the time.
中国海军舰艇进入美国领土阿拉斯加海域9月,未来在12英里的海岸线在美国总统巴拉克•奥巴马(Barack Obama)访问,美国官员告诉CNN。


The officials emphasized that China's actions were consistent with "innocent passage" under international maritime law.
官员们强调,中国的行为是符合“无害通过权”在国际海事法。


'Routine operation'
“常规手术”
Another defense official told CNN that the operation was "routine" and was in accordance with international law.
另一个国防部官员告诉CNN,操作是“常规”,依照国际法。


"We will fly, sail and operate anywhere in the world that international law allows," the official said.
“我们将飞,帆和运营国际法律允许在世界任何地方,”这位官员说。


"U.S. Freedom of Navigation operations are global in scope and executed against a wide range of excessive maritime claims, irrespective of the coastal state advancing the excessive claim," the official added.
“美国自由导航业务在全球范围和执行广泛的过度的海事请求,不论沿海国家推进过度宣称,“这位官员补充道。


His comments echoed those of State Department spokesman John Kirby on Monday, who said one country didn't need to consult another "when you are exercising the right of freedom of navigation in international waters."
他的这番讲话呼应了美国国务院发言人约翰·柯比周一,谁说一个国家不需要咨询另一个“当你锻炼在公海航行自由的权利。”


The rest of the region, wary of China's intentions in the disputed waters, is likely to welcome the U.S. move.
其余的地区,对中国的意图在争议海域,可能会欢迎美国的举动。


Japan's Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga declined to comment on the operation but said "it was extremely important that the international community work together in order to protect open, free and peaceful ocean."
日本官房长官菅义伟手术拒绝置评,但表示“这是极其重要的,国际社会共同努力为了保护开放、自由和和平。”


Australia said it "strongly supports" the rights of all countries to travel through the South China Sea.
澳大利亚说,它“强烈支持”的权利通过南海各国旅行。


Taiwan said it rejected China's claim of sovereignty over the Spratly archipelago and called for dialogue to resolve the dispute peacefully.
台湾表示,拒绝中国声称对南沙群岛拥有主权,并呼吁和平对话来解决争端。


Challenge?
挑战?
How big is China's military?
中国有多大# 39;军事?


How big is China's military?  02:20
中国的军事有多大?02:20
Greg Poling, director of the Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington said that the U.S. operation was aimed at testing control of the seas, not sovereignty over the disputed islands, and would present a dilemma for China.
格雷格•支撑亚洲海上透明度倡议主任在华盛顿战略与国际研究中心说,美国行动旨在测试控制海域,不是对争议岛屿拥有主权,将为中国带来了一个难题。


"It forces a clarification of China's claims.  China's strategy in the South China Sea is one of ambiguity," he said.
“这力量一个澄清中国的主张。中国在南海的战略是一个模棱两可的,”他说。


Poling said under maritime law, artificial islands were not usually afforded the 12-mile territorial zone, and that the U.S. Navy deliberately chose to send the destroyer near Subi Reef for this reason.
立杆说根据海事法律,人工岛屿通常不提供12英里领土区,这附近的美国海军故意选择发送驱逐舰Subi珊瑚礁出于这个原因。


Before China's recent land reclamation, both Subi and Mischief reefs were submerged at high tide, while a sandbar was visible at high-tide at Fiery Cross Reef, which could make its legal status more ambiguous.
之前中国近期的土地复垦,Subi和恶作剧珊瑚礁都淹没在高潮,而沙洲是可见的在血十字礁风暴潮将波及的地区,这可能使其法律地位更加模糊。


"So if Beijing objects by saying to the U.S. you're in our territorial sea, then the U.S. can respond by saying there's no such thing as a territorial sea for an artificial island," Poling said.
“如果北京对象说到美国你在我们的领海,那么美国就可以回复说没有所谓的人造岛屿的领海,“跳说。


He said that the decision to go ahead with the mission follows months of discussion in Washington and likely followed Chinese President Xi Jinping's trip to Washington last month, which made little headway on the South China Sea.
他说,决定继续任务之前的几个月,在华盛顿讨论和可能跟随中国国家主席习近平上月访问华盛顿,这使得对南中国海进展不大。


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CNN's Barbara Starr and Yuli Yang contributed to this report.
CNN的芭芭拉·斯塔尔和余莉杨对此报道亦有贡献。
等小蔡上台找个机会把太平岛先拿下了是正事儿。
楼主没看到"conducted a transit" within 12 nautical miles of Subi Reef"?
"conducted a transit" within 12 nautical miles of Subi Reef

这句看不懂吗? 还洗什么洗,外交部方言人都强烈抗议了。