冬奥场馆选址不在调整后的保护区范围内

把保护区调整是比在保护区内修建滑雪场更严重的问题。一方面保护区可以调整的话，意味着保护区的土地干什么都行，只要调整就好。一方面意味着在滑雪场内搞活动不必再考虑保护了，因为已经不算保护区了。

这算是学习日本调整辐射标准的先进经验？

打完枪再画靶子啊，吃相略难看。

这次北京冬奥的申办成功和2001年北京夏奥申办相比有了天壤之别了。。。

1 中国变富强了。。。国民有了发达国家国民的心态。。。厌恶、反对、冷淡对待申办的越来越多。

2 申办和举办带来的效应（非经济效应，但看钱肯定是亏）由正，慢慢变负。。。自豪感渐渐没有了。取而代之的是“劳民伤财”“某人好大喜功”“工程捞钱”的态度越来越多。。。

当然了，我们对国际奥委会说，将近95%-99%的中国人民支持申办（O(∩_∩)O~，都懂得）
。。。

国家都可以随便把保护区说废除就废除，上行下效。。。也别怪地方上干10倍于这种事情的恶行了。。。

知道的，天津的某旧历史建筑群，保护建筑。。。先把保护牌子摘了，然后拆。。。副市长很得意，开发商很满意。。。

这次北京冬奥的申办成功和2001年北京夏奥申办相比有了天壤之别了。。。

1 中国变富强了。。。国民有了发达国家国民的心态。。。厌恶、反对、冷淡对待申办的越来越多。

2 申办和举办带来的效应（非经济效应，但看钱肯定是亏）由正，慢慢变负。。。自豪感渐渐没有了。取而代之的是“劳民伤财”“某人好大喜功”“工程捞钱”的态度越来越多。。。

当然了，我们对国际奥委会说，将近95%-99%的中国人民支持申办（O(∩_∩)O~，都懂得）
。。。

国家都可以随便把保护区说废除就废除，上行下效。。。也别怪地方上干10倍于这种事情的恶行了。。。

知道的，天津的某旧历史建筑群，保护建筑。。。先把保护牌子摘了，然后拆。。。副市长很得意，开发商很满意。。。

ekingwang2013 发表于 2015-8-9 22:14
这次北京冬奥的申办成功和2001年北京夏奥申办相比有了天壤之别了。。。

1 中国变富强了。。。国民有了发 ...
帝都这次不但成为了世界唯一举办夏季和冬季奥运会的城市，同时也成为世界上唯一把国家保护区核心区拿出来办奥运的城市 !

没有条件创造条件也要上，太tm机智了，为当地官员点个赞！

我竟然无话可说了.....

组织可以随便修改自己制定的规则，，，，无可奈何，，，，，，，，，，，，，

哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈果然还是逃不出命运的怪圈。

将位于原保护区东侧的小海坨山主峰的东坡和北坡整体调入松山保护区，调入面积2655.8公顷，从而使整个保护区面积比原来扩大了三分之一。

不过保护区面积还是扩大了。总的来说结果可以。没有越画越小就不错了。

Noxnic 发表于 2015-8-10 21:12
不过保护区面积还是扩大了。总的来说结果可以。没有越画越小就不错了。
保护区也能拆迁保护

说明咱的官员灵活机智，创造能力强嘛。

kyha123 发表于 2015-8-10 21:33
说明咱的官员灵活机智，创造能力强嘛。
这次连赵家人都不好意思了

政府带头违法，依法治国，呵呵

北京冬奥会选址保护区事件登上《自然》杂志
Chinese biologists lead outcry over Winter Olympics ski site

Proposed alpine ski area lies within nature reserve, prompting fears of development in other conservation areas.

David Cyranoski

11 August 2015

small GettyImages-476550664 copy
FABRICE COFFRINI/AFP/Getty Images
A model of the alpine ski centre displayed during Beijing’s bid to host the 2022 Winter Olympic Games.

Celebrations of Beijing’s successful bid to host the 2022 Winter Olympic Games have been tempered by online protests from young biologists over the proposed alpine ski site. They say it falls within a protected nature reserve that contains many rare species, including Beijing’s only Shanxi orchids (Cypripedium shanxiense). More importantly, say other biologists, the proposed site would violate environmental protection laws touted by the government and create a precedent that would hamper already fraught efforts to conserve other, more significant sites.

Local officials have since said they will redraw the lines that delineate the national reserve – but this has left the protesters unsatisfied. Meanwhile the posts, to the Chinese social media website Weibo, are no longer visible; the protesters say they have been blocked.

After the International Olympic Committee, based in Lausanne, Switzerland, announced on 31 July that Beijing would host the Winter Olympics, nature enthusiasts quickly noted that the proposed alpine ski routes fall within the core area of the 4,600-hectare Songshan National Nature Reserve. On 1 August, Wang Xi, who recently received his PhD and works at the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Shanghai, overlaid maps from the International Olympic Committee’s evaluation report with those from the reserve’s website and posted the result on his Weibo account: both the start and end of the alpine runs fall within the reserve, he found.

Xi told Nature’s news team that his main motivation was to spread news of the possible ecological impact on plants there, including three orchid species that are classified at the highest protection level under Beijing’s conservation system. “It’s a chance for the government to connect with the people and talk to each other to solve this problem,” he says. “I am not against the Olympic Games, but they should be carried out in an environmentally friendly way.”

Weibo clicks

His post was clicked some 240,000 times and forwarded more than 1,000 times, but within two days he found that it no longer appeared online. Word spread anyway. Yun Ji, a 28-year-old entomologist in Beijing who did not want his affiliation mentioned, had copied Xi’s maps. He added information on and pictures of the various plants found in the reserve that are on a list of the rarest and most rigorously protected of Beijing’s plants, along with photos of birds whose habitat, he says, could also be destroyed. His Weibo post was no longer accessible from the site – within four hours, he says – but while it was still online, it was forwarded 3,000 times, and from one of those reposts, was forwarded an additional 16,000 times.

Neither the Chinese Olympic Committee nor the Beijing government has released official statements responding to the allegations in the posts; in its evaluation report, the Beijing 2022 Olympic Winter Games Bid Committee said the ski area was “adjacent to” the reserve. But on 7 August, the deputy mayor of Yanqing, the county in Beijing that has jurisdiction over the Songshan National Nature Reserve, announced that the borders of the reserve would be “adjusted” to take in land to the north-east of the current boundaries, and that some of the original reserve will be taken “to provide the necessary space for local sustainable development and to promote interaction between ecological protection and economic society” .

The details are not yet clear, but the new reserve is 31% larger, according to interviews with the deputy mayor published by Chinese media outlets. And according to Chinese media, the deputy mayor said that after the adjustment, there would be no overlap between the ski slopes and the reserve.

The mayor’s office deferred queries from Nature’s news team to the bid committee but the team did not receive a response from that committee nor from the China Olympic Committee. The International Olympic Committee has also not replied to queries from Nature’s news team on how it handles applications that have inconsistencies, and whether conflict with a nature reserve would have affected its decision. Beijing won its bid by a 44 to 40 majority over Almaty in Kazakhastan.

According to 2013 government regulations, those who wish to change nature-reserve boundaries must submit an application that includes a public comment, an ecological assessment and four other documents. Xi and Ji say that they can find no evidence that this happened.

Crackdown abandoned

Lei Gu, a postdoctoral researcher in evolution and conservation biology at Peking University, says that Songshan is not that important in terms of biodiversity. The bigger problem, he says, is that a government that has been increasingly issuing statements and regulations that emphasize its commitment to environmental sustainability and conservation seems to be backing away from its promises. In May, for example, China’s environment ministry released a notice, signed by ten government agencies, that stated that any development at odds with a reserve’s function is “strictly forbidden”.

That is a promise “to crack down on illegal acts in nature reserves”, says Gu, whose Weibo posts on the subject are no longer accessible. “But it isn’t working here. Gu and Xi both worry that seeing the strict policies fail in Beijing would send a broader signal to local governments. If Beijing violates Songshan’s reserve, “it will be easier for local governments to give construction projects higher priority than conservation issues”, says Gu. “The real impact is the breaking of Chinese laws and policies on nature reserves.”

Xi says that a better site for the alpine ski event would be Zhangjiakou, a city in neighbouring Hebei province, which will also host some winter Olympic events. Zhangjiakou has mountains that are already developed and would suffer no environmental loss.

Nature
doi:10.1038/nature.2015.18174

菜鸟来袭 发表于 2015-8-11 19:39
政府带头违法，依法治国，呵呵

北京冬奥会选址保护区事件登上《自然》杂志
Chinese biologists lead outcry over Winter Olympics ski site

Proposed alpine ski area lies within nature reserve, prompting fears of development in other conservation areas.

David Cyranoski

11 August 2015

small GettyImages-476550664 copy
FABRICE COFFRINI/AFP/Getty Images
A model of the alpine ski centre displayed during Beijing’s bid to host the 2022 Winter Olympic Games.

Celebrations of Beijing’s successful bid to host the 2022 Winter Olympic Games have been tempered by online protests from young biologists over the proposed alpine ski site. They say it falls within a protected nature reserve that contains many rare species, including Beijing’s only Shanxi orchids (Cypripedium shanxiense). More importantly, say other biologists, the proposed site would violate environmental protection laws touted by the government and create a precedent that would hamper already fraught efforts to conserve other, more significant sites.

Local officials have since said they will redraw the lines that delineate the national reserve – but this has left the protesters unsatisfied. Meanwhile the posts, to the Chinese social media website Weibo, are no longer visible; the protesters say they have been blocked.

After the International Olympic Committee, based in Lausanne, Switzerland, announced on 31 July that Beijing would host the Winter Olympics, nature enthusiasts quickly noted that the proposed alpine ski routes fall within the core area of the 4,600-hectare Songshan National Nature Reserve. On 1 August, Wang Xi, who recently received his PhD and works at the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Shanghai, overlaid maps from the International Olympic Committee’s evaluation report with those from the reserve’s website and posted the result on his Weibo account: both the start and end of the alpine runs fall within the reserve, he found.

Xi told Nature’s news team that his main motivation was to spread news of the possible ecological impact on plants there, including three orchid species that are classified at the highest protection level under Beijing’s conservation system. “It’s a chance for the government to connect with the people and talk to each other to solve this problem,” he says. “I am not against the Olympic Games, but they should be carried out in an environmentally friendly way.”

Weibo clicks

His post was clicked some 240,000 times and forwarded more than 1,000 times, but within two days he found that it no longer appeared online. Word spread anyway. Yun Ji, a 28-year-old entomologist in Beijing who did not want his affiliation mentioned, had copied Xi’s maps. He added information on and pictures of the various plants found in the reserve that are on a list of the rarest and most rigorously protected of Beijing’s plants, along with photos of birds whose habitat, he says, could also be destroyed. His Weibo post was no longer accessible from the site – within four hours, he says – but while it was still online, it was forwarded 3,000 times, and from one of those reposts, was forwarded an additional 16,000 times.

Neither the Chinese Olympic Committee nor the Beijing government has released official statements responding to the allegations in the posts; in its evaluation report, the Beijing 2022 Olympic Winter Games Bid Committee said the ski area was “adjacent to” the reserve. But on 7 August, the deputy mayor of Yanqing, the county in Beijing that has jurisdiction over the Songshan National Nature Reserve, announced that the borders of the reserve would be “adjusted” to take in land to the north-east of the current boundaries, and that some of the original reserve will be taken “to provide the necessary space for local sustainable development and to promote interaction between ecological protection and economic society” .

The details are not yet clear, but the new reserve is 31% larger, according to interviews with the deputy mayor published by Chinese media outlets. And according to Chinese media, the deputy mayor said that after the adjustment, there would be no overlap between the ski slopes and the reserve.

The mayor’s office deferred queries from Nature’s news team to the bid committee but the team did not receive a response from that committee nor from the China Olympic Committee. The International Olympic Committee has also not replied to queries from Nature’s news team on how it handles applications that have inconsistencies, and whether conflict with a nature reserve would have affected its decision. Beijing won its bid by a 44 to 40 majority over Almaty in Kazakhastan.

According to 2013 government regulations, those who wish to change nature-reserve boundaries must submit an application that includes a public comment, an ecological assessment and four other documents. Xi and Ji say that they can find no evidence that this happened.

Crackdown abandoned

Lei Gu, a postdoctoral researcher in evolution and conservation biology at Peking University, says that Songshan is not that important in terms of biodiversity. The bigger problem, he says, is that a government that has been increasingly issuing statements and regulations that emphasize its commitment to environmental sustainability and conservation seems to be backing away from its promises. In May, for example, China’s environment ministry released a notice, signed by ten government agencies, that stated that any development at odds with a reserve’s function is “strictly forbidden”.

That is a promise “to crack down on illegal acts in nature reserves”, says Gu, whose Weibo posts on the subject are no longer accessible. “But it isn’t working here. Gu and Xi both worry that seeing the strict policies fail in Beijing would send a broader signal to local governments. If Beijing violates Songshan’s reserve, “it will be easier for local governments to give construction projects higher priority than conservation issues”, says Gu. “The real impact is the breaking of Chinese laws and policies on nature reserves.”

Xi says that a better site for the alpine ski event would be Zhangjiakou, a city in neighbouring Hebei province, which will also host some winter Olympic events. Zhangjiakou has mountains that are already developed and would suffer no environmental loss.

Nature
doi:10.1038/nature.2015.18174