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What Is China's Navy Doing in Mediterranean?

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A show of power. Photographer: Soe Than Win/AFP/Getty Images
图片注释：一场武力展示，由 Soe Than Win/法新社/盖蒂图库 供图


By Noah Feldman
Noah Feldman, a Bloomberg View columnist, is a professor of constitutional and international law at Harvard University and the author of six books, most recently "Cool War: The Future of Global Competition."
作者：诺亚·费尔德曼
简介：彭博社专栏评论家，哈佛大学宪法与国际法领域的教授，著有六部书，最近的一部是《凉战^1：全球竞争的未来》。


正文：

Why is China announcing joint naval exercises with Russia in the Mediterranean, so far from home? There’s a global answer connected to the new cool war and China’s interest in responding to U.S. initiatives in the Pacific. But there’s also a more revealing local answer arriving from the nature of China’s growing involvement in the Middle East and North Africa.
为何中国会宣布与俄罗斯在远离本土的地中海举行联合海上演习？这个问题有一个全球性的答案：它与新“凉战”以及中国旨在回应美国在太平洋的行动有关。但是也更加透露出一个区域性的答案，即源于中国日渐扩大的对参与中东和北非（事务）的需要。

The global geopolitical explanation for the exercises, expected this month, is certainly interesting and distinctive. China’s military and security aims are primarily focused on the Pacific, and it can’t reasonably hope to compete with the U.S. or European powers in their own backyards. Yet China gains symbolic value from presenting itself as an increasingly global power. A naval exercise in the Mediterranean -- even one on a very small scale -- is the kind of thing great powers do. The announcement is therefore useful to communicate China’s seriousness and commitment to this rise. It may be even more valuable within China, where President Xi Jinping is nurturing an increasingly nationalist strain of pride under the slogan of the “Chinese dream.”
以全球地缘政治视角来解读将于本月举行的这场演习肯定很有意思也很独特。中国的军事和安全目标主要集中在太平洋，按理说它不会希望与美国或欧洲列强在它们的后院对抗。然而中国通过展示他作为一个愈发全球性的强权的样子收获了象征性的价值。一场在地中海的海军演习，即便规模再小，也是强权做下的事。因此，宣布（要举行演习）对于传达中国对这一趋势的严肃感和决心是有用的。这可能对中国内部（的需要）更有价值，Xi主席正在（给民众）灌输在“中国梦”口号下的愈发民族主义的自豪感。

Seen in this light, the Chinese-Russian exercises also look like a symbolic response to U.S. efforts to strengthen security relationships with China’s Asian neighbors. Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe’s recent visit to Washington is a case in point. Abe has begun a genuine discussion within Japan about whether to amend the pacifist constitution, transforming the country’s self-defense force into something more like a standard military.
由此来看，中俄军演也像是对美国与中国的亚洲邻国加强安全关系行动的象征性回应。日本首相安倍晋三近期对华盛顿的访问就是一个恰当的例子。安倍在国内就修改和平宪法以将该国的自卫队转变成一支正规军队的举动已经掀起了一场轩然大波。

The impetus for this change is China’s increasing security threat to its Asian neighbors -- and a nagging uncertainty on the part of Japanese about whether the U.S. would go to war to defend Japan in a pinch. Abe’s visit is part of an attempt by the Barack Obama administration to reassure the Japanese, but also to implicitly to lend credibility to Abe’s defense initiatives.
此次变化（即安倍修改和平宪法）的动机缘于中国对它的亚洲邻国们日益严峻的安全威胁，以及一个老生常谈的于日本方面不确定的问题，即美国会不会在必要时防卫日本。安倍的出访是贝拉克·奥巴马政府安抚日本的一个尝试，但是也暗含其对安倍防卫举动的支持。

It’s worth noticing that this military positioning on both sides, even if symbolic, coexists with close economic cooperation between China and both Japan and the U.S. if this seems unusual, that’s because it is: The chief feature of the cool war is the coexistence of strategic competition and economic cooperation. One reason China can get away with a little minor saber rattling in the Mediterranean -- alongside Vladimir Putin’s belligerent Russia -- is that it won’t affect China’s economic partnerships with anyone, including the U.S. or European powers. That’s just the way the new cool war game is played.
值得注意的是双方的军事定位，即便是象征性的，而在中日美之间同时又有着紧密的经济合作关系。如果这看起来不同寻常，那是因为：“凉战”的主要特征是战略竞争与经济合作共存。中国能置身于剑拔弩张的地中海形势之外的一个原因是，（即使）与弗拉基米尔·普京好战的俄罗斯一道，它也不会影响中国与任何人的经济伙伴关系，包括美国或欧洲列强。这就是新“凉战”游戏的玩耍方式。

Yet this geopolitical angle doesn’t necessarily explain why the Mediterranean. Naval exercises almost anywhere could’ve expressed the same thing, perhaps even more strongly, because China’s naval assets in the Mediterranean aren’t particularly significant.
但从这一地缘政治角度来看还不足以解释为何选在地中海。在几乎任何地点（进行）的海上军演都可以表达出同样的意思，也许还要更强烈些，即在地中海的中国海军力量并不是特别重要。

The better explanation for why the Mediterranean is much more local. China has twice in recent years had to send its ships to rescue and evacuate significant numbers of Chinese workers who fell into danger as a result of regional instability. The first time was in Libya, where 35,800 Chinese workers had to be evacuated after the 2011 uprising and subsequent bombing campaign to bring down Muammar Qaddafi. The second time was in late March and early April, when Chinese ships helped offload several hundred Chinese workers from Yemen as the situation there further deteriorated and Saudi airstrikes escalated.
对地中海事件更好的解释是更偏区域性的。近年来中国已经两次派舰船营救和撤离了因地区动荡而陷入危境的大量中国工人。第一次是在利比亚，在2011年的（班加西）起义后有35,800名中国工人要被撤离，随后（北约）展开了（旨在）推翻穆阿迈尔·卡扎菲政权的空袭。第二次是今年3月末和4月初的时候，当时中国舰船从局势急剧恶化和沙特空袭升级情况下的也门解救了数百名中国工人。

These episodes brought home China’s evolving role in the Middle East and North Africa. So far, Chinese policy makers have shown no interest in inheriting the traditional U.S. role of maintaining hegemony in the Middle East to create stability and facilitate the flow of oil.  However, China has to some degree included the Middle East in its strategy of building infrastructure projects in less-developed countries and establishing substantial settlements of Chinese workers there.
这些事件凸显了中国在中东和北非不断演变的角色。迄今，中国的决策层对继承以往美国的角色还不感兴趣：保持在中东的霸权以创造稳定局面和促进石油运输。尽管如此，中国还是不得不在一定程度上将中东纳入它在欠发达国家建设基础设施计划和建立大量中国工人安置点的战略中去。

In sub-Saharan Africa, the point of this strategy is to build government-to-government relationships and keep steady the flow of raw materials that China needs to grow economically. Chinese political influence is primarily an adjunct to business interests. In Libya, the strategy accounted for the Chinese presence. A comparable number of Chinese workers probably still exists in Algeria -- perhaps 40,000 -- and there are Chinese workers elsewhere in the region, although exact numbers are difficult to ascertain.
在撒哈拉以南的非洲，这个战略的要点是构建政府间的关系和确保稳定地获取为发展中国经济所需的原材料。中国的政治影响力基本上是一种商业活动的附属物。在利比亚，这种战略导致了中国的存在。有相当数量的中国工人仍生活在于阿尔及利亚，也许有 40,000 人，在地区的其他地方也分布有中国工人，尽管确切的数目难以探知。

Over time, China’s increasing presence in the region will shift China’s interest in the Mediterranean. Large business investments will drive a national interest in, you guessed it, stability. Instability is what caused China to have to evacuate workers, which is the local reason China now has a naval presence in the Mediterranean. But over the long term, a more significant Chinese naval presence could be used to help create stability -- not just to rescue Chinese workers when instability comes.
有朝一日，中国在该地区不断增加的存在将转变其在地中海的利益。大规模商业投资将会推动一个国家的利益所在，你猜对了，是稳定。动荡是致使中国不得不撤离工人的原因，也是如今中国在地中海存在一支海军力量的区域性原因。但从长远来看，一支更为强大的中国海军的存在是可以被用来营造稳定态势的，不仅仅是为了在动荡到来时解救中国工人。

What I’m proposing is that China is at the very early stages of Middle Eastern mission creep – and that its Mediterranean naval exercises are a leading indicator of how that creep will proceed. Once a country is a great power, and once the country is prepared to boast of its naval presence in a region, strategic logic requires that force to be able to accomplish strategic objectives. Right now, China’s Mediterranean fleet (if you can call it that) is doing rescue. Eventually it will need to do more than that, or else it’ll become a symbol of Chinese weakness, rather than growing Chinese strength.
我要说的是中国正处在中东“任务蠕变^2”中的很早期的阶段，它在地中海的海军演习就是这种“蠕变”将如何发展下去的先行指标。一旦一个国家成为了一支强权，而且一旦这个国家准备炫耀它在某个地区的海军力量，那么战略逻辑就要求这支部队能够完成战略目标。眼下，中国的地中海舰队（如果你能这么叫它的话）正在开展救援行动。最终它将需要做的更多，不然这将被视为中国软弱而不是日益强大的象征。

The day when China becomes an important Middle Eastern power is still some time away. Much will depend on the trajectory of Iran, a Chinese ally that's rising in the region even as it continues to face challenges to the regime’s legitimacy at home. But when a history of China’s rise in the region is written, it’ll have a page for these naval exercises. As China will learn, asserting its presence has benefits -- but also comes with some significant costs.
现在距离中国成为一支中东重要的力量的那天尚需时日。这在很大程度上依赖于伊朗的发展轨迹，而这个中国在该地区正在崛起的盟友在其国内正面临着政权合法性的挑战。不过，当中国在该地区崛起的历史被记下时，它将会有这些海军演习的一页。如中国将认识到的一样，维持它的（军事）存在会有好处，但是也会伴随着一些很大的代价。

作者注：
1. I call this the traditional U.S. role because it was obtained roughly from the beginning of the Cold War until 2003. With the invasion of Iraq, the U.S actually inverted the goal of stability by trying to create instability through regime change. That happened.
1.我把这称为以往美国的角色是因为，它从“冷战”开始直到 2003 年间大致如此。（然而）随着入侵伊拉克，美国也确实通过更迭政权引发动荡而转变了其（以往）维稳的目标。出事了。

译者注：
1. 凉战（Cool War）：是冷战（Cold War）的延续，其目的是为了在不引发热战的情况下不停出击，同时让热战变得更不可取甚至没有必要。“凉战”，来源于美国卡内基国际和平基金会访问学者、《外交政策》特约编辑戴维·罗特科普夫于 2013 年 2 月 20 日刊发在《外交政策》杂志网站的《凉战》一文。文章称，人们在 2013 年正处在所谓“凉战”（Cool War）之中，它是冷战（Cold War）的延续。

2. 任务蠕变：英文原文是 "mission creep"，也译作“使命偏离”，权威词典解释为：一个任务（特别是军事行动）的趋势，无意地朝着比初始目标更扩大化的范围发展。这个词最初见于刊载于 1993 年 4 月 15 日的《华盛顿邮报》和 1993 年 10 月 10 日的《纽约时报》上的关于联合国在索马里内战中的维和任务的社论中。


评论（原文评论近五百条，不一一翻译了）：


Fred  3 days ago +51（这个弗雷德非常牛B，下面回复他的评论占到了总数的近一半，钓鱼高手呀，我挑些翻译）

So what? Is the United States the only country allowed to have its navy be anywhere in the world in international waters? We have military bases in more than 170 countries and get bent out of shape when Russia tries to protect their naval bases in Ukraine, which have been under Russian control for more than 200 years. Last time I checked, the US has bombed, invaded or supported armed coups in a hell of a lot more sovereign countries than all the other countries in the World put together. Maybe we need to take a long hard look in the mirror and realize it is we that have become the evil empire, not Russia or China.
那又怎样，难道美国不就是那个唯一被允许在全世界在公海驻军的国家吗？我们有遍布 170 多个国家的军事基地，却在当俄罗斯想要保卫其控制了逾 200 年的在今乌克兰的军事基地时大发雷霆。上次我查证了，美国轰炸、入侵或支持在主权国家进行该死的武装政变的次数已经比全世界其他国家的总和还要多多了。也许我们需要好好反思下，以认识到是我们已经变成了邪恶帝国，而不是俄罗斯或中国。

    innocentbystanderboston Fred  3 days ago +14（成功歪楼，下面也有一大堆回复，同样牛B的不行）

     “So what? Is the United States the only country allowed to have its navy be anywhere in the world in international waters?”
    No! Of course not. Where could you have gotten that idea? Britian is also allowed.
    Only us and Great Britian. :-)
    不是，当然不是。你从哪里得到这一看法的？英国（不列颠）也被允许了。
   
        Peggy Sue innocentbystanderboston  3 days ago +6

        brits are the biggest drug dealer in the world, brits loot and rob from all over the world, they should be banned from any international activity
        英国人是全世界最大的毒贩，英国人在全世界掠夺和盗窃，他们应该被禁止参与任何国际活动。
        
            sureality Peggy Sue  2 days ago +3

            They are already removed from international activities. Firstly, their empire shrank dramatically. Then, their industry disappeared; oil and gas prices fell and the rigs in the north will be running dry in some years. Not too far out, they will be leaving the EU and their lil' island in the middle of the Atlantic will be forgotten soon - unless either the Germans take over that piece of land and turn it into a giant carpark or the Chinese buy it for entertainment. So, don't worry, they ain't no danger any longer.
            他们（英国人）已经被从国际活动（名单中）除名。首先，大英帝国急剧地坍缩了；然后，其工业也消失了。油气价格大跌而且未来几年北海的（油气资源）钻探将会枯竭。用不了多久，他们将脱离欧盟，他们在大西洋中间的小岛将会很快被人遗忘——除非由德国人来接管这块地，把它变成一个巨大的停车场或者中国人为了娱乐买下它。所以，别担心，他们不再是（其他人的）威胁了。
            
            gary proffitt Peggy Sue  3 days ago +1

            Brits are not Russian kleptomaniacs overseeing a nation built on crime and Brits have also the power to defeat Moscow so dont forget that Peggy Suevitch.
            英国人不是那群建立在犯罪基础上有着全国监察的俄国惯偷，英国人也有能力击败莫斯科，所以不要忘了这个，Peggy Sue维奇（讽刺此人是个俄国佬，比如典型的俄国人名“Leonid Viadimirovitch”译为中文为“列昂尼德·弗拉季米罗维奇”）。
            
                Kamoli_Khujandi gary proffitt  2 days ago +1

                Brits have also the power to defeat Moscow ? Seems Peggy Sue is right. You must be smoking something of those Brits to say that lol
                英国人还有能力打败莫斯科？看来 Peggy Sue 是对的。你一定是抽了太多那些英国人的烟，才会说出那个笑话。
Peggy Sue gary proffitt  3 days ago +1

                brits living on that tiny little island lack of natural resources and raw material, with all the previous colonies become independence. Britain is becoming to be a third world country. Garyprofitt son of a dog.
                英国人生活在缺乏自然资源和原材料的小小岛上，随着所有的前殖民地都独立了，英国正滑向一个第三世界国家。Gary Profitt 是个龟孙子。
               
                    interd0g Peggy Sue  2 days ago +1

                    UK beggars itself trying to maintain a token nuclear presence and tagging along with every US half backed intervention. Theor PM should get over his ego, scrap the global influence delusion, and look at trying to catch up with Singapore.
                    英国乞丐们自身试图维持一个核力量令牌，又尾随每一次由美国半支持的干预行动。他们的首相应克服自负感，撕碎其全球影响力的错觉，然后试着追赶新加坡。

                    gary proffitt Peggy Sue  2 days ago

                    We have the Kremlins co-ords in our tridents dont you worry communist tyre kicker.
                    别担心，我们的三叉戟（英国的潜射战略导弹）指向克里姆林宫的女装癖们，你这个共产主义“踢轮胎者”（tyre kicker，即一个其貌不扬的人，看车不买、不懂装懂、总想贪小便宜、检查车还要踢一下轮胎......）。
                    
                        Hircus American gary proffitt  2 days ago +1

                        A barking dog shows its weakness.
                        一只吠犬在示弱。
                        
        Jr Basilio innocentbystanderboston  3 days ago +2（又来个钓鱼高手）

        copycat and more chief. OMG maybe as of now its alright, but I guaranty this kind of behavior will create a problem and tension. If China want to be a world police I don't have a problem. It time someone maybe to help out and return some of the blessing to the world like what the United of America been doing sense. AS far the Russian, I don't know and just trouble. Hopefully the Chinese will do the same as the USA...... Remember God is watching.
        山寨者有了更多的主见。天呐，也许现在还安好，但我保证这种行为将会闯祸并加剧紧张的态势。如果中国想当世界警察，我没问题。是时候要人像美国那样做些有意义的事来帮助世界挣脱出来和回馈一些祝福。对于俄国人，我不知为何，带来的尽是麻烦。希望中国人可以做的像美国人那样......记住，（人在做，）天在看。
        
            wilmers13 Jr Basilio  3 days ago +2

            You seem to transfer your power thinking to others. From what I see on the media these days, your God is asleep or maybe he's just watching a more pleasant planet.
            你似乎在将你的强权主义想法转移给他人。从我这些天在媒体上的所见所闻来看，你的上帝（即上面翻译的“天”）睡着了，或者他只是想看看一个更加宜人的星球到底是怎么样的。
            
                Melvin Cordovez wilmers13  3 days ago +3（神棍呀，深得安利真传）

                Hey wilms! 1st of all I do not know who is Jr Basilio, I don't even like his comments. Just want to say though, that if God was asleep, you'll be dead by now, no offense... God is up in heaven right now watching the fulfillment of Bible Prophecies. Bible Prophesy is like this Welm's, just as a wise father by observing his children's behavior, he could accurately predict what will his child would be, when it grows up. Didn't our parents once in our lifetime or more said the words, "I told you so...." or "didn't I tell you....". Well, God is still doing the same to mankind, by means of His Words, the Bible. According to Carbon Dating, the Bible is 3,500 years old, and yet, it's predictions is very well accurate, "Furthermore, when you hear of wars and disturbances, do not be terrified. For these things must take place first, but the end will not occur immediately.”
                10 Then he said to them: “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.11 There will be great earthquakes, and in one place after another food shortages and pestilences; and there will be fearful sights and from heaven great signs." (Lucas 21:9-11) Did you know that according to Encyclopedia Britanicca, the Bible is the most published, printed, translated and distributed Book in the World? Now wilms, would like to know why is the "End" ain't happening yet? You can also visit jw.org for more accurate Bible Teachings, tnx!
               嘿，wilms！首先我不认识谁是Jr Basilio，我甚至不喜欢他的评论。不过，我只是想说如果上帝睡着了，你就会死，且无法反抗......现在上帝正在天上观看圣经预言的实现。圣经预言如同这个 Welm 说的，就像一个睿智的父亲通过观察孩子的行为，他就能准确地预测他的孩子长大时的样子。难道在今生我们的父母没对我们说过一次或多次这些话，“我告诉过你......”或“难道我没告诉你......”。好吧，上帝仍然在对人类做同样的事，即用他的话，就是《圣经》（作为手段）。根据碳测定年代，《圣经》有3500年的历史了，然而，它的预测是非常准确的，“此外，当你听到有战争和纷扰之事，不要惊惶。首先这些事情会必然发生，但是结局不会立即到来。”
               10 当时耶稣对他们说：“民要攻打民,国攻击国。” 11 “地要大大震动，多处必有饥荒瘟疫。又有可怕的异象，和大神迹，从天上显现。”（路加福音 21:9-11）你知道根据大英百科全书，圣经是在全世界被出版、印刷、翻译和分发最多的著作吗？wilms，现在，你想知道为什么“结局”还没发生吗？您可以访问 jw.org 来了解更准确的圣经教义，谢谢！
               
                    Ivo Melvin Cordovez  2 days ago +1

                    Melvin,
                    Behave yourself...
                    Please,
                    Respect the HUMAN BEINGS,THE EVOLUTION,THE CIVILIZATION ...keep your crazy barbarity inside your tribe.
                    Do not dare to promote it ..
                    It is a criminal act.
                    Melvin，
                    检点一些......
                    请，
                    尊重人类、进化、文明...... 把你疯狂的粗野行为收进你的部族哪里。
                    不要肆无忌惮地推销它。
                    这是犯罪行径。
                    
                    gary proffitt Melvin Cordovez  2 days ago

                    How did the bible prophets know that four devils would rise from the sea one with bears claws and it's protector a dragon and also a lion with eagles wings?
                    圣经先知们是怎么知道会有四个恶魔从海上跃起而其中一个有着熊爪并且它的卫士即一条龙还有一头狮子也长着鹰的翅膀的?
                    
                        Melvin Cordovez gary proffitt  a day ago（此人真是锲而不舍，为了查证，我愣是读了几处《圣经》节选）

                        You asked: 'How did the Bible Prophets knew?'
                        Answer: "20 For you know this first, that no prophecy of Scripture springs from any private interpretation. 21 For prophecy was at no time brought by man’s will, but men spoke from God as they were moved by holy spirit." (2 Peter 1:20, 21)
                        According to Carbon Dating, the Bible is 3,500 years old and according to Encyclopedia Britanicca, the Bible is the most published, printed, translated and distributed Book in the World. Do you have a Bible Question? You can also visit jw.org for more accurate Bible Teachings, tnx!
                        你问了：“圣经先知是怎么知道的呢？”
                        答案是：“20 第一要紧的，该知道经上所有的预言，没有可随私意解说的。21 因为预言从来没有出于人意的，乃是人被圣灵感动说出神的话来。”（彼得后书 1:20,21）
                        根据碳测定年代，《圣经》有3500年的历史了；而且根据大英百科全书，圣经也是在全世界被出版、印刷、翻译和分发最多的著作。你有一个关于圣经的疑问吗？您可以访问 jw.org 来了解更准确的圣经教义，谢谢！

                        gary proffitt gary proffitt  2 days ago

                        Obviously the communists are in league with Satan that much goes from simple historical observervation
                        从简单的历史观察看来，很明显共产主义份子与撒旦是一丘之貉。
                        
                CPL in SoCal wilmers13  3 days ago

                Wilms: You know all of those people who call you an idiot everyday? They're right!
                wilms，你知道这里的所有人都把你当作白痴吗？他们是对的！
               
                    wilmers13 CPL in SoCal  2 days ago +1

                    Makes for a fabulous intellectual discussion, doesn't it.
                    但我造就了一场令人难以置信的大讨论，不是吗？
                    
                        Ivo wilmers13  2 days ago +1

                        Garry profit is a RUSSIAN troll..
                        I have warned many times.
                        He is here to destroy all discussions and to create a sense of idiotic sub human desires
                        Garry profit 是个专门“钓鱼”的俄国佬...
                        我提醒过多次了。
                        他来这儿就是为了“歪楼”以及制造一种下等人想要的感觉。
                        
                            garyoptica Ivo  a day ago

                            I have been called many bad things but never a paid Kleptomaniacs pen pal like you Ivo.
                            我被称呼过很多坏东西，但从没一个像 Ivo 你这样的“五毛”惯偷笔友。

            gary proffitt Jr Basilio  3 days ago +2

            (.)(.)//_

            AS CHINA AND RUSSIA ENJOY MEDITERRANEAN NAVAL EXERCISES SOON IN MID MAY THEY WILL SIZE UP BOTH EUROPE AND GREECE'S PORTS FOR OCCUPATION.

            Sorry Greece but communist activists using expensive staff and resources to brain wash your nation demand a naval base in the Mediterranean as XI has a deal with Putin in the submission of the great economic threat to Chinese cheap labour and inferior goods and that clear competitive threat is the EU market which is greater than Russia, America and China expected.

            CLEARLY RUSSIAN AND CHINA ARE LOOKING TO ALSO LEAN POWER OVER THE SUEZ CANAL ONCE AGAIN VIA A MEDITERRANEAN OUTPOST AND INFILTRATING EGYPT AS WELL AS THE EASTERN GULF TRADE CHANNELS USING IRAN.

            Of course Putin demands services from their ex soviet partners the Chinese Communist party and this will be in the form of convenient UN vetoes and brinkmanship over blocking humanitarian aid and defence spending in cleaning out para state terrorism mainly in the middles east orchestrated by Putins Syrain and Iranian protaganists as Putin and his kleptomaniacs play the dangerous game of petro power & domination to bring down the western world.（擦，整段都没有断句）
            在中国和俄罗斯享受其在地中海的海军演习时，很快，就在五月中旬他们将为了占领而预先打量欧洲和希腊的港口。
            很抱歉，希腊，但是共产主义份子正用使用高薪厚禄对你们的国家进行洗脑说它需要在地中海的海军基地，因为习与普京订立一项协议协议，原因是迫于对中国的廉价劳动力和劣质商品的巨大经济威胁（迫在眉睫），而且那个明显的竞争威胁就是欧盟市场，比俄罗斯、美国和中国预期的还要大。
            显然俄罗斯和中国也正在通过地中海前哨、渗透进埃及以及使用伊朗东部海湾贸易通道再次寻求精益控制苏伊士运河。
            当然普京需要他的前苏联伙伴们如中国GCD的服务，这将以在联合国内行使否决、阻止人道主义援助的边缘政策和国防支出的形式来进行，目的在于完成由普京政权、叙利亚和伊朗领导人处心积虑地清除在中东的主要准国家恐怖主义，因为普京和他的盗窃狂们在玩这个关于石油力量和主宰的危险游戏以打倒西方世界。
            
                Peggy Sue gary proffitt  a day ago

                is mother a Gypsy woman? your crystal ball is as hollow as your testicles, an empty pouch.
                你妈是个吉普赛人吗？你的（预测）水晶球跟你的睾丸一样空洞，空有外皮。
               
        Ivo innocentbystanderboston  2 days ago +1

        UK is a shame for the HUMAN CIVILISATION and of dubious existence.
        英国是人类文明的耻辱，我怀疑其存在的合理性。

            gary proffitt Ivo  2 days ago

            At least the brits had a real empire and not a communist pack of cards that fell on its red backside in 1989
            至少英国人曾有过一个真正的帝国，而不像一副在 19*89 年落到了其红色背面的共产主义纸牌。

                Peggy Sue gary proffitt  a day ago

                brits now have a puppet empire, the evil empire act more like parasites living off of citizens hard earn pounds and shillings. with no more colonies left for the brits, little Britain is going back where it belong, an island third world country, that's all. After 1989, communist China actually had lifted millions out of poverty and became the biggest economy in the world, little Britain and Communist China, there is no comparison.
                英国人现在有了一个傀儡帝国，这个邪恶帝国表现的更像是以辛苦地赚取的英磅、先令的公民们为生的寄生虫。再也没有任何留给英国人的殖民地，小英国将会返回到它该有的位置，一个第三世界的岛国，仅此而已。在 19*89 年后，共产中国确实让数以百万的人脱贫，而且成为世界上最大的经济体。小英国和共产中国，不可同日而语。

                    garyoptica Peggy Sue  a day ago +1

                    The Chinese and Russian people will throw out the criminal parties in power in due time.

                    Enjoy your regime tokens piggy suevitch in the meantime because the west will get through to liberate democratic people waiting out east soon.
                    中国人和俄国人会适时地把掌权的罪恶党派赶下台。
                    piggy sue维奇，赶紧享受你的制度特权，因为西方很快将完成对东方望眼欲穿的渴求民主的人民的解放。

                        Peggy Sue garyoptica  a day ago

                        China has witnessed the demise of the Spartans, Roman Empire, the little Britain empire............when garyoptica and his corrupt, decay western imperialistic ideology turn into ashes and dusts, China will be there to be witness as well.
                        中国目睹了斯巴达、罗马帝国、小英帝国等等势力的覆灭，而由于 garyoptica 和他的腐败行径，将使西方的帝国主义理想化为尘灰，中国将会见证这一切。

                Zhou Sophie gary proffitt  a day ago

                U are discrimination to communist should be put in jail
                你对共产主义者有歧视，应该被投进监狱。

                    garyoptica Zhou Sophie  a day ago +1

                    I have a right to wish to destroy communism the corupt federation of convict cockroaches and I urge all westerners to stand on guard.
                    我有权渴望去粉碎共产主义这个像恶名昭著的蟑螂那样的腐败联盟，我敦促全欧人立即警戒起来。

               What Is China's Navy Doing in Mediterranean?

http://www.ltaaa.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=345147&mobile=1

A show of power. Photographer: Soe Than Win/AFP/Getty Images
图片注释：一场武力展示，由 Soe Than Win/法新社/盖蒂图库 供图


By Noah Feldman
Noah Feldman, a Bloomberg View columnist, is a professor of constitutional and international law at Harvard University and the author of six books, most recently "Cool War: The Future of Global Competition."
作者：诺亚·费尔德曼
简介：彭博社专栏评论家，哈佛大学宪法与国际法领域的教授，著有六部书，最近的一部是《凉战^1：全球竞争的未来》。


正文：

Why is China announcing joint naval exercises with Russia in the Mediterranean, so far from home? There’s a global answer connected to the new cool war and China’s interest in responding to U.S. initiatives in the Pacific. But there’s also a more revealing local answer arriving from the nature of China’s growing involvement in the Middle East and North Africa.
为何中国会宣布与俄罗斯在远离本土的地中海举行联合海上演习？这个问题有一个全球性的答案：它与新“凉战”以及中国旨在回应美国在太平洋的行动有关。但是也更加透露出一个区域性的答案，即源于中国日渐扩大的对参与中东和北非（事务）的需要。

The global geopolitical explanation for the exercises, expected this month, is certainly interesting and distinctive. China’s military and security aims are primarily focused on the Pacific, and it can’t reasonably hope to compete with the U.S. or European powers in their own backyards. Yet China gains symbolic value from presenting itself as an increasingly global power. A naval exercise in the Mediterranean -- even one on a very small scale -- is the kind of thing great powers do. The announcement is therefore useful to communicate China’s seriousness and commitment to this rise. It may be even more valuable within China, where President Xi Jinping is nurturing an increasingly nationalist strain of pride under the slogan of the “Chinese dream.”
以全球地缘政治视角来解读将于本月举行的这场演习肯定很有意思也很独特。中国的军事和安全目标主要集中在太平洋，按理说它不会希望与美国或欧洲列强在它们的后院对抗。然而中国通过展示他作为一个愈发全球性的强权的样子收获了象征性的价值。一场在地中海的海军演习，即便规模再小，也是强权做下的事。因此，宣布（要举行演习）对于传达中国对这一趋势的严肃感和决心是有用的。这可能对中国内部（的需要）更有价值，Xi主席正在（给民众）灌输在“中国梦”口号下的愈发民族主义的自豪感。

Seen in this light, the Chinese-Russian exercises also look like a symbolic response to U.S. efforts to strengthen security relationships with China’s Asian neighbors. Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe’s recent visit to Washington is a case in point. Abe has begun a genuine discussion within Japan about whether to amend the pacifist constitution, transforming the country’s self-defense force into something more like a standard military.
由此来看，中俄军演也像是对美国与中国的亚洲邻国加强安全关系行动的象征性回应。日本首相安倍晋三近期对华盛顿的访问就是一个恰当的例子。安倍在国内就修改和平宪法以将该国的自卫队转变成一支正规军队的举动已经掀起了一场轩然大波。

The impetus for this change is China’s increasing security threat to its Asian neighbors -- and a nagging uncertainty on the part of Japanese about whether the U.S. would go to war to defend Japan in a pinch. Abe’s visit is part of an attempt by the Barack Obama administration to reassure the Japanese, but also to implicitly to lend credibility to Abe’s defense initiatives.
此次变化（即安倍修改和平宪法）的动机缘于中国对它的亚洲邻国们日益严峻的安全威胁，以及一个老生常谈的于日本方面不确定的问题，即美国会不会在必要时防卫日本。安倍的出访是贝拉克·奥巴马政府安抚日本的一个尝试，但是也暗含其对安倍防卫举动的支持。

It’s worth noticing that this military positioning on both sides, even if symbolic, coexists with close economic cooperation between China and both Japan and the U.S. if this seems unusual, that’s because it is: The chief feature of the cool war is the coexistence of strategic competition and economic cooperation. One reason China can get away with a little minor saber rattling in the Mediterranean -- alongside Vladimir Putin’s belligerent Russia -- is that it won’t affect China’s economic partnerships with anyone, including the U.S. or European powers. That’s just the way the new cool war game is played.
值得注意的是双方的军事定位，即便是象征性的，而在中日美之间同时又有着紧密的经济合作关系。如果这看起来不同寻常，那是因为：“凉战”的主要特征是战略竞争与经济合作共存。中国能置身于剑拔弩张的地中海形势之外的一个原因是，（即使）与弗拉基米尔·普京好战的俄罗斯一道，它也不会影响中国与任何人的经济伙伴关系，包括美国或欧洲列强。这就是新“凉战”游戏的玩耍方式。

Yet this geopolitical angle doesn’t necessarily explain why the Mediterranean. Naval exercises almost anywhere could’ve expressed the same thing, perhaps even more strongly, because China’s naval assets in the Mediterranean aren’t particularly significant.
但从这一地缘政治角度来看还不足以解释为何选在地中海。在几乎任何地点（进行）的海上军演都可以表达出同样的意思，也许还要更强烈些，即在地中海的中国海军力量并不是特别重要。

The better explanation for why the Mediterranean is much more local. China has twice in recent years had to send its ships to rescue and evacuate significant numbers of Chinese workers who fell into danger as a result of regional instability. The first time was in Libya, where 35,800 Chinese workers had to be evacuated after the 2011 uprising and subsequent bombing campaign to bring down Muammar Qaddafi. The second time was in late March and early April, when Chinese ships helped offload several hundred Chinese workers from Yemen as the situation there further deteriorated and Saudi airstrikes escalated.
对地中海事件更好的解释是更偏区域性的。近年来中国已经两次派舰船营救和撤离了因地区动荡而陷入危境的大量中国工人。第一次是在利比亚，在2011年的（班加西）起义后有35,800名中国工人要被撤离，随后（北约）展开了（旨在）推翻穆阿迈尔·卡扎菲政权的空袭。第二次是今年3月末和4月初的时候，当时中国舰船从局势急剧恶化和沙特空袭升级情况下的也门解救了数百名中国工人。

These episodes brought home China’s evolving role in the Middle East and North Africa. So far, Chinese policy makers have shown no interest in inheriting the traditional U.S. role of maintaining hegemony in the Middle East to create stability and facilitate the flow of oil.  However, China has to some degree included the Middle East in its strategy of building infrastructure projects in less-developed countries and establishing substantial settlements of Chinese workers there.
这些事件凸显了中国在中东和北非不断演变的角色。迄今，中国的决策层对继承以往美国的角色还不感兴趣：保持在中东的霸权以创造稳定局面和促进石油运输。尽管如此，中国还是不得不在一定程度上将中东纳入它在欠发达国家建设基础设施计划和建立大量中国工人安置点的战略中去。

In sub-Saharan Africa, the point of this strategy is to build government-to-government relationships and keep steady the flow of raw materials that China needs to grow economically. Chinese political influence is primarily an adjunct to business interests. In Libya, the strategy accounted for the Chinese presence. A comparable number of Chinese workers probably still exists in Algeria -- perhaps 40,000 -- and there are Chinese workers elsewhere in the region, although exact numbers are difficult to ascertain.
在撒哈拉以南的非洲，这个战略的要点是构建政府间的关系和确保稳定地获取为发展中国经济所需的原材料。中国的政治影响力基本上是一种商业活动的附属物。在利比亚，这种战略导致了中国的存在。有相当数量的中国工人仍生活在于阿尔及利亚，也许有 40,000 人，在地区的其他地方也分布有中国工人，尽管确切的数目难以探知。

Over time, China’s increasing presence in the region will shift China’s interest in the Mediterranean. Large business investments will drive a national interest in, you guessed it, stability. Instability is what caused China to have to evacuate workers, which is the local reason China now has a naval presence in the Mediterranean. But over the long term, a more significant Chinese naval presence could be used to help create stability -- not just to rescue Chinese workers when instability comes.
有朝一日，中国在该地区不断增加的存在将转变其在地中海的利益。大规模商业投资将会推动一个国家的利益所在，你猜对了，是稳定。动荡是致使中国不得不撤离工人的原因，也是如今中国在地中海存在一支海军力量的区域性原因。但从长远来看，一支更为强大的中国海军的存在是可以被用来营造稳定态势的，不仅仅是为了在动荡到来时解救中国工人。

What I’m proposing is that China is at the very early stages of Middle Eastern mission creep – and that its Mediterranean naval exercises are a leading indicator of how that creep will proceed. Once a country is a great power, and once the country is prepared to boast of its naval presence in a region, strategic logic requires that force to be able to accomplish strategic objectives. Right now, China’s Mediterranean fleet (if you can call it that) is doing rescue. Eventually it will need to do more than that, or else it’ll become a symbol of Chinese weakness, rather than growing Chinese strength.
我要说的是中国正处在中东“任务蠕变^2”中的很早期的阶段，它在地中海的海军演习就是这种“蠕变”将如何发展下去的先行指标。一旦一个国家成为了一支强权，而且一旦这个国家准备炫耀它在某个地区的海军力量，那么战略逻辑就要求这支部队能够完成战略目标。眼下，中国的地中海舰队（如果你能这么叫它的话）正在开展救援行动。最终它将需要做的更多，不然这将被视为中国软弱而不是日益强大的象征。

The day when China becomes an important Middle Eastern power is still some time away. Much will depend on the trajectory of Iran, a Chinese ally that's rising in the region even as it continues to face challenges to the regime’s legitimacy at home. But when a history of China’s rise in the region is written, it’ll have a page for these naval exercises. As China will learn, asserting its presence has benefits -- but also comes with some significant costs.
现在距离中国成为一支中东重要的力量的那天尚需时日。这在很大程度上依赖于伊朗的发展轨迹，而这个中国在该地区正在崛起的盟友在其国内正面临着政权合法性的挑战。不过，当中国在该地区崛起的历史被记下时，它将会有这些海军演习的一页。如中国将认识到的一样，维持它的（军事）存在会有好处，但是也会伴随着一些很大的代价。

作者注：
1. I call this the traditional U.S. role because it was obtained roughly from the beginning of the Cold War until 2003. With the invasion of Iraq, the U.S actually inverted the goal of stability by trying to create instability through regime change. That happened.
1.我把这称为以往美国的角色是因为，它从“冷战”开始直到 2003 年间大致如此。（然而）随着入侵伊拉克，美国也确实通过更迭政权引发动荡而转变了其（以往）维稳的目标。出事了。

译者注：
1. 凉战（Cool War）：是冷战（Cold War）的延续，其目的是为了在不引发热战的情况下不停出击，同时让热战变得更不可取甚至没有必要。“凉战”，来源于美国卡内基国际和平基金会访问学者、《外交政策》特约编辑戴维·罗特科普夫于 2013 年 2 月 20 日刊发在《外交政策》杂志网站的《凉战》一文。文章称，人们在 2013 年正处在所谓“凉战”（Cool War）之中，它是冷战（Cold War）的延续。

2. 任务蠕变：英文原文是 "mission creep"，也译作“使命偏离”，权威词典解释为：一个任务（特别是军事行动）的趋势，无意地朝着比初始目标更扩大化的范围发展。这个词最初见于刊载于 1993 年 4 月 15 日的《华盛顿邮报》和 1993 年 10 月 10 日的《纽约时报》上的关于联合国在索马里内战中的维和任务的社论中。


评论（原文评论近五百条，不一一翻译了）：


Fred  3 days ago +51（这个弗雷德非常牛B，下面回复他的评论占到了总数的近一半，钓鱼高手呀，我挑些翻译）

So what? Is the United States the only country allowed to have its navy be anywhere in the world in international waters? We have military bases in more than 170 countries and get bent out of shape when Russia tries to protect their naval bases in Ukraine, which have been under Russian control for more than 200 years. Last time I checked, the US has bombed, invaded or supported armed coups in a hell of a lot more sovereign countries than all the other countries in the World put together. Maybe we need to take a long hard look in the mirror and realize it is we that have become the evil empire, not Russia or China.
那又怎样，难道美国不就是那个唯一被允许在全世界在公海驻军的国家吗？我们有遍布 170 多个国家的军事基地，却在当俄罗斯想要保卫其控制了逾 200 年的在今乌克兰的军事基地时大发雷霆。上次我查证了，美国轰炸、入侵或支持在主权国家进行该死的武装政变的次数已经比全世界其他国家的总和还要多多了。也许我们需要好好反思下，以认识到是我们已经变成了邪恶帝国，而不是俄罗斯或中国。

    innocentbystanderboston Fred  3 days ago +14（成功歪楼，下面也有一大堆回复，同样牛B的不行）

     “So what? Is the United States the only country allowed to have its navy be anywhere in the world in international waters?”
    No! Of course not. Where could you have gotten that idea? Britian is also allowed.
    Only us and Great Britian. :-)
    不是，当然不是。你从哪里得到这一看法的？英国（不列颠）也被允许了。
   
        Peggy Sue innocentbystanderboston  3 days ago +6

        brits are the biggest drug dealer in the world, brits loot and rob from all over the world, they should be banned from any international activity
        英国人是全世界最大的毒贩，英国人在全世界掠夺和盗窃，他们应该被禁止参与任何国际活动。
        
            sureality Peggy Sue  2 days ago +3

            They are already removed from international activities. Firstly, their empire shrank dramatically. Then, their industry disappeared; oil and gas prices fell and the rigs in the north will be running dry in some years. Not too far out, they will be leaving the EU and their lil' island in the middle of the Atlantic will be forgotten soon - unless either the Germans take over that piece of land and turn it into a giant carpark or the Chinese buy it for entertainment. So, don't worry, they ain't no danger any longer.
            他们（英国人）已经被从国际活动（名单中）除名。首先，大英帝国急剧地坍缩了；然后，其工业也消失了。油气价格大跌而且未来几年北海的（油气资源）钻探将会枯竭。用不了多久，他们将脱离欧盟，他们在大西洋中间的小岛将会很快被人遗忘——除非由德国人来接管这块地，把它变成一个巨大的停车场或者中国人为了娱乐买下它。所以，别担心，他们不再是（其他人的）威胁了。
            
            gary proffitt Peggy Sue  3 days ago +1

            Brits are not Russian kleptomaniacs overseeing a nation built on crime and Brits have also the power to defeat Moscow so dont forget that Peggy Suevitch.
            英国人不是那群建立在犯罪基础上有着全国监察的俄国惯偷，英国人也有能力击败莫斯科，所以不要忘了这个，Peggy Sue维奇（讽刺此人是个俄国佬，比如典型的俄国人名“Leonid Viadimirovitch”译为中文为“列昂尼德·弗拉季米罗维奇”）。
            
                Kamoli_Khujandi gary proffitt  2 days ago +1

                Brits have also the power to defeat Moscow ? Seems Peggy Sue is right. You must be smoking something of those Brits to say that lol
                英国人还有能力打败莫斯科？看来 Peggy Sue 是对的。你一定是抽了太多那些英国人的烟，才会说出那个笑话。
Peggy Sue gary proffitt  3 days ago +1

                brits living on that tiny little island lack of natural resources and raw material, with all the previous colonies become independence. Britain is becoming to be a third world country. Garyprofitt son of a dog.
                英国人生活在缺乏自然资源和原材料的小小岛上，随着所有的前殖民地都独立了，英国正滑向一个第三世界国家。Gary Profitt 是个龟孙子。
               
                    interd0g Peggy Sue  2 days ago +1

                    UK beggars itself trying to maintain a token nuclear presence and tagging along with every US half backed intervention. Theor PM should get over his ego, scrap the global influence delusion, and look at trying to catch up with Singapore.
                    英国乞丐们自身试图维持一个核力量令牌，又尾随每一次由美国半支持的干预行动。他们的首相应克服自负感，撕碎其全球影响力的错觉，然后试着追赶新加坡。

                    gary proffitt Peggy Sue  2 days ago

                    We have the Kremlins co-ords in our tridents dont you worry communist tyre kicker.
                    别担心，我们的三叉戟（英国的潜射战略导弹）指向克里姆林宫的女装癖们，你这个共产主义“踢轮胎者”（tyre kicker，即一个其貌不扬的人，看车不买、不懂装懂、总想贪小便宜、检查车还要踢一下轮胎......）。
                    
                        Hircus American gary proffitt  2 days ago +1

                        A barking dog shows its weakness.
                        一只吠犬在示弱。
                        
        Jr Basilio innocentbystanderboston  3 days ago +2（又来个钓鱼高手）

        copycat and more chief. OMG maybe as of now its alright, but I guaranty this kind of behavior will create a problem and tension. If China want to be a world police I don't have a problem. It time someone maybe to help out and return some of the blessing to the world like what the United of America been doing sense. AS far the Russian, I don't know and just trouble. Hopefully the Chinese will do the same as the USA...... Remember God is watching.
        山寨者有了更多的主见。天呐，也许现在还安好，但我保证这种行为将会闯祸并加剧紧张的态势。如果中国想当世界警察，我没问题。是时候要人像美国那样做些有意义的事来帮助世界挣脱出来和回馈一些祝福。对于俄国人，我不知为何，带来的尽是麻烦。希望中国人可以做的像美国人那样......记住，（人在做，）天在看。
        
            wilmers13 Jr Basilio  3 days ago +2

            You seem to transfer your power thinking to others. From what I see on the media these days, your God is asleep or maybe he's just watching a more pleasant planet.
            你似乎在将你的强权主义想法转移给他人。从我这些天在媒体上的所见所闻来看，你的上帝（即上面翻译的“天”）睡着了，或者他只是想看看一个更加宜人的星球到底是怎么样的。
            
                Melvin Cordovez wilmers13  3 days ago +3（神棍呀，深得安利真传）

                Hey wilms! 1st of all I do not know who is Jr Basilio, I don't even like his comments. Just want to say though, that if God was asleep, you'll be dead by now, no offense... God is up in heaven right now watching the fulfillment of Bible Prophecies. Bible Prophesy is like this Welm's, just as a wise father by observing his children's behavior, he could accurately predict what will his child would be, when it grows up. Didn't our parents once in our lifetime or more said the words, "I told you so...." or "didn't I tell you....". Well, God is still doing the same to mankind, by means of His Words, the Bible. According to Carbon Dating, the Bible is 3,500 years old, and yet, it's predictions is very well accurate, "Furthermore, when you hear of wars and disturbances, do not be terrified. For these things must take place first, but the end will not occur immediately.”
                10 Then he said to them: “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.11 There will be great earthquakes, and in one place after another food shortages and pestilences; and there will be fearful sights and from heaven great signs." (Lucas 21:9-11) Did you know that according to Encyclopedia Britanicca, the Bible is the most published, printed, translated and distributed Book in the World? Now wilms, would like to know why is the "End" ain't happening yet? You can also visit jw.org for more accurate Bible Teachings, tnx!
               嘿，wilms！首先我不认识谁是Jr Basilio，我甚至不喜欢他的评论。不过，我只是想说如果上帝睡着了，你就会死，且无法反抗......现在上帝正在天上观看圣经预言的实现。圣经预言如同这个 Welm 说的，就像一个睿智的父亲通过观察孩子的行为，他就能准确地预测他的孩子长大时的样子。难道在今生我们的父母没对我们说过一次或多次这些话，“我告诉过你......”或“难道我没告诉你......”。好吧，上帝仍然在对人类做同样的事，即用他的话，就是《圣经》（作为手段）。根据碳测定年代，《圣经》有3500年的历史了，然而，它的预测是非常准确的，“此外，当你听到有战争和纷扰之事，不要惊惶。首先这些事情会必然发生，但是结局不会立即到来。”
               10 当时耶稣对他们说：“民要攻打民,国攻击国。” 11 “地要大大震动，多处必有饥荒瘟疫。又有可怕的异象，和大神迹，从天上显现。”（路加福音 21:9-11）你知道根据大英百科全书，圣经是在全世界被出版、印刷、翻译和分发最多的著作吗？wilms，现在，你想知道为什么“结局”还没发生吗？您可以访问 jw.org 来了解更准确的圣经教义，谢谢！
               
                    Ivo Melvin Cordovez  2 days ago +1

                    Melvin,
                    Behave yourself...
                    Please,
                    Respect the HUMAN BEINGS,THE EVOLUTION,THE CIVILIZATION ...keep your crazy barbarity inside your tribe.
                    Do not dare to promote it ..
                    It is a criminal act.
                    Melvin，
                    检点一些......
                    请，
                    尊重人类、进化、文明...... 把你疯狂的粗野行为收进你的部族哪里。
                    不要肆无忌惮地推销它。
                    这是犯罪行径。
                    
                    gary proffitt Melvin Cordovez  2 days ago

                    How did the bible prophets know that four devils would rise from the sea one with bears claws and it's protector a dragon and also a lion with eagles wings?
                    圣经先知们是怎么知道会有四个恶魔从海上跃起而其中一个有着熊爪并且它的卫士即一条龙还有一头狮子也长着鹰的翅膀的?
                    
                        Melvin Cordovez gary proffitt  a day ago（此人真是锲而不舍，为了查证，我愣是读了几处《圣经》节选）

                        You asked: 'How did the Bible Prophets knew?'
                        Answer: "20 For you know this first, that no prophecy of Scripture springs from any private interpretation. 21 For prophecy was at no time brought by man’s will, but men spoke from God as they were moved by holy spirit." (2 Peter 1:20, 21)
                        According to Carbon Dating, the Bible is 3,500 years old and according to Encyclopedia Britanicca, the Bible is the most published, printed, translated and distributed Book in the World. Do you have a Bible Question? You can also visit jw.org for more accurate Bible Teachings, tnx!
                        你问了：“圣经先知是怎么知道的呢？”
                        答案是：“20 第一要紧的，该知道经上所有的预言，没有可随私意解说的。21 因为预言从来没有出于人意的，乃是人被圣灵感动说出神的话来。”（彼得后书 1:20,21）
                        根据碳测定年代，《圣经》有3500年的历史了；而且根据大英百科全书，圣经也是在全世界被出版、印刷、翻译和分发最多的著作。你有一个关于圣经的疑问吗？您可以访问 jw.org 来了解更准确的圣经教义，谢谢！

                        gary proffitt gary proffitt  2 days ago

                        Obviously the communists are in league with Satan that much goes from simple historical observervation
                        从简单的历史观察看来，很明显共产主义份子与撒旦是一丘之貉。
                        
                CPL in SoCal wilmers13  3 days ago

                Wilms: You know all of those people who call you an idiot everyday? They're right!
                wilms，你知道这里的所有人都把你当作白痴吗？他们是对的！
               
                    wilmers13 CPL in SoCal  2 days ago +1

                    Makes for a fabulous intellectual discussion, doesn't it.
                    但我造就了一场令人难以置信的大讨论，不是吗？
                    
                        Ivo wilmers13  2 days ago +1

                        Garry profit is a RUSSIAN troll..
                        I have warned many times.
                        He is here to destroy all discussions and to create a sense of idiotic sub human desires
                        Garry profit 是个专门“钓鱼”的俄国佬...
                        我提醒过多次了。
                        他来这儿就是为了“歪楼”以及制造一种下等人想要的感觉。
                        
                            garyoptica Ivo  a day ago

                            I have been called many bad things but never a paid Kleptomaniacs pen pal like you Ivo.
                            我被称呼过很多坏东西，但从没一个像 Ivo 你这样的“五毛”惯偷笔友。

            gary proffitt Jr Basilio  3 days ago +2

            (.)(.)//_

            AS CHINA AND RUSSIA ENJOY MEDITERRANEAN NAVAL EXERCISES SOON IN MID MAY THEY WILL SIZE UP BOTH EUROPE AND GREECE'S PORTS FOR OCCUPATION.

            Sorry Greece but communist activists using expensive staff and resources to brain wash your nation demand a naval base in the Mediterranean as XI has a deal with Putin in the submission of the great economic threat to Chinese cheap labour and inferior goods and that clear competitive threat is the EU market which is greater than Russia, America and China expected.

            CLEARLY RUSSIAN AND CHINA ARE LOOKING TO ALSO LEAN POWER OVER THE SUEZ CANAL ONCE AGAIN VIA A MEDITERRANEAN OUTPOST AND INFILTRATING EGYPT AS WELL AS THE EASTERN GULF TRADE CHANNELS USING IRAN.

            Of course Putin demands services from their ex soviet partners the Chinese Communist party and this will be in the form of convenient UN vetoes and brinkmanship over blocking humanitarian aid and defence spending in cleaning out para state terrorism mainly in the middles east orchestrated by Putins Syrain and Iranian protaganists as Putin and his kleptomaniacs play the dangerous game of petro power & domination to bring down the western world.（擦，整段都没有断句）
            在中国和俄罗斯享受其在地中海的海军演习时，很快，就在五月中旬他们将为了占领而预先打量欧洲和希腊的港口。
            很抱歉，希腊，但是共产主义份子正用使用高薪厚禄对你们的国家进行洗脑说它需要在地中海的海军基地，因为习与普京订立一项协议协议，原因是迫于对中国的廉价劳动力和劣质商品的巨大经济威胁（迫在眉睫），而且那个明显的竞争威胁就是欧盟市场，比俄罗斯、美国和中国预期的还要大。
            显然俄罗斯和中国也正在通过地中海前哨、渗透进埃及以及使用伊朗东部海湾贸易通道再次寻求精益控制苏伊士运河。
            当然普京需要他的前苏联伙伴们如中国GCD的服务，这将以在联合国内行使否决、阻止人道主义援助的边缘政策和国防支出的形式来进行，目的在于完成由普京政权、叙利亚和伊朗领导人处心积虑地清除在中东的主要准国家恐怖主义，因为普京和他的盗窃狂们在玩这个关于石油力量和主宰的危险游戏以打倒西方世界。
            
                Peggy Sue gary proffitt  a day ago

                is mother a Gypsy woman? your crystal ball is as hollow as your testicles, an empty pouch.
                你妈是个吉普赛人吗？你的（预测）水晶球跟你的睾丸一样空洞，空有外皮。
               
        Ivo innocentbystanderboston  2 days ago +1

        UK is a shame for the HUMAN CIVILISATION and of dubious existence.
        英国是人类文明的耻辱，我怀疑其存在的合理性。

            gary proffitt Ivo  2 days ago

            At least the brits had a real empire and not a communist pack of cards that fell on its red backside in 1989
            至少英国人曾有过一个真正的帝国，而不像一副在 19*89 年落到了其红色背面的共产主义纸牌。

                Peggy Sue gary proffitt  a day ago

                brits now have a puppet empire, the evil empire act more like parasites living off of citizens hard earn pounds and shillings. with no more colonies left for the brits, little Britain is going back where it belong, an island third world country, that's all. After 1989, communist China actually had lifted millions out of poverty and became the biggest economy in the world, little Britain and Communist China, there is no comparison.
                英国人现在有了一个傀儡帝国，这个邪恶帝国表现的更像是以辛苦地赚取的英磅、先令的公民们为生的寄生虫。再也没有任何留给英国人的殖民地，小英国将会返回到它该有的位置，一个第三世界的岛国，仅此而已。在 19*89 年后，共产中国确实让数以百万的人脱贫，而且成为世界上最大的经济体。小英国和共产中国，不可同日而语。

                    garyoptica Peggy Sue  a day ago +1

                    The Chinese and Russian people will throw out the criminal parties in power in due time.

                    Enjoy your regime tokens piggy suevitch in the meantime because the west will get through to liberate democratic people waiting out east soon.
                    中国人和俄国人会适时地把掌权的罪恶党派赶下台。
                    piggy sue维奇，赶紧享受你的制度特权，因为西方很快将完成对东方望眼欲穿的渴求民主的人民的解放。

                        Peggy Sue garyoptica  a day ago

                        China has witnessed the demise of the Spartans, Roman Empire, the little Britain empire............when garyoptica and his corrupt, decay western imperialistic ideology turn into ashes and dusts, China will be there to be witness as well.
                        中国目睹了斯巴达、罗马帝国、小英帝国等等势力的覆灭，而由于 garyoptica 和他的腐败行径，将使西方的帝国主义理想化为尘灰，中国将会见证这一切。

                Zhou Sophie gary proffitt  a day ago

                U are discrimination to communist should be put in jail
                你对共产主义者有歧视，应该被投进监狱。

                    garyoptica Zhou Sophie  a day ago +1

                    I have a right to wish to destroy communism the corupt federation of convict cockroaches and I urge all westerners to stand on guard.
                    我有权渴望去粉碎共产主义这个像恶名昭著的蟑螂那样的腐败联盟，我敦促全欧人立即警戒起来。