超级军网为抗衡印度Su-30MKI，中国可能升级其Su-30MKK战机雷达
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PLA may upgrade radar of its Su-30MKK fighters to match Su-30MKI of India
To compete with India’s Sukhoi Su-30MKI fighters, the People’s Liberation Army Air Force may consider replacing the RLPK-27VE integrated radar targeting system of its Sukhoi Su-30MKK fighters with more advanced passive electronically scanned array radar, according to the Moscow-based Military Parade magazine.
Even though China has shown itself capable of building its own version of Russian fighters such as the J-11B and the J-15 through reverse engineering, many Western experts still question whether the quality of these Chinese fighters is really equal to the Russian originals. This is the reason why China still needs to purchase the Su-35S, Russia’s 4.5-generation, despite the fact that it is already capable of designing a fifth-generation stealth fighter.
China is currently still unable to design and produce engine and radar systems as advanced as Russia’s. India, one of China’s major rivals, has purchased a Su-30MKI with a passive electronically scanned array and gained a license from Russia to produce Saturn AL-31FP engines domestically. With the ability to track targets 200 kilometers away, the Indian Air Force’s Su-30MKI could easily overcome Chinese fighters in a potential conflict.
With only the RLPK-27VE integrated radar targeting system, China’s Su-30MKK cannot even fire the Russian-built KS-172 air-to-air missile, according to Kanwa Defense Review published by Andrei Chang also known as Pinkov, a military from Canada. This is the reason why China is considering installing passive electronically scanned array radar to upgrade its fighters. China has also developed its J-15 carrier-based fighters with AL-31FP engines, although the price of the fighter has gradually increased.
Source : Want China Times
为抗衡印度Su-30MKI中国可能升级其Su-30MKK战机雷达
根据莫斯科军事杂志Parade报道，为了与印度苏霍伊公司的Su-30MKI战机抗衡，解放军空军可能会考虑将同为苏霍伊公司的Su-30MKK战斗机RLPK-27VE综合雷达瞄准系统，替换成更为先进的无源相控阵雷达。
尽管中国通过逆向工程研制出了J-11B和J-15，表明自己有能力制造中国版俄式战机，但许多西方专家仍然质疑这些中国版战机的质量是否真的如俄罗斯原版一样，这就是尽管中国已经有能力设计第五代隐形战机，却仍然需要购买俄罗斯4.5代的Su-35S的原因。
中国目前仍无法设计和制造能媲美俄罗斯产的发动机和雷达系统。印度，中国的主要竞争对手之一，已经购买了配备无源相控阵雷达和获许本土化生产AL-31FP发动机的Su-30MKI。（译者吐槽：我怎么感觉目前中国只把美国作为主要战略对手，没有其他了呀）
在可能发生冲突中，拥有200公里距离追踪目标能力的印空军Su-30MKI可以轻而易举地解决掉中国战机。
根据加拿大汉和防务评论平可夫称，只具备RLPK-27VE综合雷达瞄准系统的中国Su-30MKK甚至不能发射俄制KS-172空空导弹。这就是中国正考虑安装无源相控阵雷达升级其战机的原因。另外虽然会导致价格大涨，中国也将（印度同款的）AL-31FP型发动机运用到了其J-15航母舰载机上。
轉自 http://www.santaihu.com/2014100108.htmlPLA may upgrade radar of its Su-30MKK fighters to match Su-30MKI of India
To compete with India’s Sukhoi Su-30MKI fighters, the People’s Liberation Army Air Force may consider replacing the RLPK-27VE integrated radar targeting system of its Sukhoi Su-30MKK fighters with more advanced passive electronically scanned array radar, according to the Moscow-based Military Parade magazine.
Even though China has shown itself capable of building its own version of Russian fighters such as the J-11B and the J-15 through reverse engineering, many Western experts still question whether the quality of these Chinese fighters is really equal to the Russian originals. This is the reason why China still needs to purchase the Su-35S, Russia’s 4.5-generation, despite the fact that it is already capable of designing a fifth-generation stealth fighter.
China is currently still unable to design and produce engine and radar systems as advanced as Russia’s. India, one of China’s major rivals, has purchased a Su-30MKI with a passive electronically scanned array and gained a license from Russia to produce Saturn AL-31FP engines domestically. With the ability to track targets 200 kilometers away, the Indian Air Force’s Su-30MKI could easily overcome Chinese fighters in a potential conflict.
With only the RLPK-27VE integrated radar targeting system, China’s Su-30MKK cannot even fire the Russian-built KS-172 air-to-air missile, according to Kanwa Defense Review published by Andrei Chang also known as Pinkov, a military from Canada. This is the reason why China is considering installing passive electronically scanned array radar to upgrade its fighters. China has also developed its J-15 carrier-based fighters with AL-31FP engines, although the price of the fighter has gradually increased.
Source : Want China Times
为抗衡印度Su-30MKI中国可能升级其Su-30MKK战机雷达
根据莫斯科军事杂志Parade报道，为了与印度苏霍伊公司的Su-30MKI战机抗衡，解放军空军可能会考虑将同为苏霍伊公司的Su-30MKK战斗机RLPK-27VE综合雷达瞄准系统，替换成更为先进的无源相控阵雷达。
尽管中国通过逆向工程研制出了J-11B和J-15，表明自己有能力制造中国版俄式战机，但许多西方专家仍然质疑这些中国版战机的质量是否真的如俄罗斯原版一样，这就是尽管中国已经有能力设计第五代隐形战机，却仍然需要购买俄罗斯4.5代的Su-35S的原因。
中国目前仍无法设计和制造能媲美俄罗斯产的发动机和雷达系统。印度，中国的主要竞争对手之一，已经购买了配备无源相控阵雷达和获许本土化生产AL-31FP发动机的Su-30MKI。（译者吐槽：我怎么感觉目前中国只把美国作为主要战略对手，没有其他了呀）
在可能发生冲突中，拥有200公里距离追踪目标能力的印空军Su-30MKI可以轻而易举地解决掉中国战机。
根据加拿大汉和防务评论平可夫称，只具备RLPK-27VE综合雷达瞄准系统的中国Su-30MKK甚至不能发射俄制KS-172空空导弹。这就是中国正考虑安装无源相控阵雷达升级其战机的原因。另外虽然会导致价格大涨，中国也将（印度同款的）AL-31FP型发动机运用到了其J-15航母舰载机上。
轉自 http://www.santaihu.com/2014100108.html
To compete with India’s Sukhoi Su-30MKI fighters, the People’s Liberation Army Air Force may consider replacing the RLPK-27VE integrated radar targeting system of its Sukhoi Su-30MKK fighters with more advanced passive electronically scanned array radar, according to the Moscow-based Military Parade magazine.
Even though China has shown itself capable of building its own version of Russian fighters such as the J-11B and the J-15 through reverse engineering, many Western experts still question whether the quality of these Chinese fighters is really equal to the Russian originals. This is the reason why China still needs to purchase the Su-35S, Russia’s 4.5-generation, despite the fact that it is already capable of designing a fifth-generation stealth fighter.
China is currently still unable to design and produce engine and radar systems as advanced as Russia’s. India, one of China’s major rivals, has purchased a Su-30MKI with a passive electronically scanned array and gained a license from Russia to produce Saturn AL-31FP engines domestically. With the ability to track targets 200 kilometers away, the Indian Air Force’s Su-30MKI could easily overcome Chinese fighters in a potential conflict.
With only the RLPK-27VE integrated radar targeting system, China’s Su-30MKK cannot even fire the Russian-built KS-172 air-to-air missile, according to Kanwa Defense Review published by Andrei Chang also known as Pinkov, a military from Canada. This is the reason why China is considering installing passive electronically scanned array radar to upgrade its fighters. China has also developed its J-15 carrier-based fighters with AL-31FP engines, although the price of the fighter has gradually increased.
Source : Want China Times
为抗衡印度Su-30MKI中国可能升级其Su-30MKK战机雷达
根据莫斯科军事杂志Parade报道，为了与印度苏霍伊公司的Su-30MKI战机抗衡，解放军空军可能会考虑将同为苏霍伊公司的Su-30MKK战斗机RLPK-27VE综合雷达瞄准系统，替换成更为先进的无源相控阵雷达。
尽管中国通过逆向工程研制出了J-11B和J-15，表明自己有能力制造中国版俄式战机，但许多西方专家仍然质疑这些中国版战机的质量是否真的如俄罗斯原版一样，这就是尽管中国已经有能力设计第五代隐形战机，却仍然需要购买俄罗斯4.5代的Su-35S的原因。
中国目前仍无法设计和制造能媲美俄罗斯产的发动机和雷达系统。印度，中国的主要竞争对手之一，已经购买了配备无源相控阵雷达和获许本土化生产AL-31FP发动机的Su-30MKI。（译者吐槽：我怎么感觉目前中国只把美国作为主要战略对手，没有其他了呀）
在可能发生冲突中，拥有200公里距离追踪目标能力的印空军Su-30MKI可以轻而易举地解决掉中国战机。
根据加拿大汉和防务评论平可夫称，只具备RLPK-27VE综合雷达瞄准系统的中国Su-30MKK甚至不能发射俄制KS-172空空导弹。这就是中国正考虑安装无源相控阵雷达升级其战机的原因。另外虽然会导致价格大涨，中国也将（印度同款的）AL-31FP型发动机运用到了其J-15航母舰载机上。
轉自 http://www.santaihu.com/2014100108.htmlPLA may upgrade radar of its Su-30MKK fighters to match Su-30MKI of India
To compete with India’s Sukhoi Su-30MKI fighters, the People’s Liberation Army Air Force may consider replacing the RLPK-27VE integrated radar targeting system of its Sukhoi Su-30MKK fighters with more advanced passive electronically scanned array radar, according to the Moscow-based Military Parade magazine.
Even though China has shown itself capable of building its own version of Russian fighters such as the J-11B and the J-15 through reverse engineering, many Western experts still question whether the quality of these Chinese fighters is really equal to the Russian originals. This is the reason why China still needs to purchase the Su-35S, Russia’s 4.5-generation, despite the fact that it is already capable of designing a fifth-generation stealth fighter.
China is currently still unable to design and produce engine and radar systems as advanced as Russia’s. India, one of China’s major rivals, has purchased a Su-30MKI with a passive electronically scanned array and gained a license from Russia to produce Saturn AL-31FP engines domestically. With the ability to track targets 200 kilometers away, the Indian Air Force’s Su-30MKI could easily overcome Chinese fighters in a potential conflict.
With only the RLPK-27VE integrated radar targeting system, China’s Su-30MKK cannot even fire the Russian-built KS-172 air-to-air missile, according to Kanwa Defense Review published by Andrei Chang also known as Pinkov, a military from Canada. This is the reason why China is considering installing passive electronically scanned array radar to upgrade its fighters. China has also developed its J-15 carrier-based fighters with AL-31FP engines, although the price of the fighter has gradually increased.
Source : Want China Times
为抗衡印度Su-30MKI中国可能升级其Su-30MKK战机雷达
根据莫斯科军事杂志Parade报道，为了与印度苏霍伊公司的Su-30MKI战机抗衡，解放军空军可能会考虑将同为苏霍伊公司的Su-30MKK战斗机RLPK-27VE综合雷达瞄准系统，替换成更为先进的无源相控阵雷达。
尽管中国通过逆向工程研制出了J-11B和J-15，表明自己有能力制造中国版俄式战机，但许多西方专家仍然质疑这些中国版战机的质量是否真的如俄罗斯原版一样，这就是尽管中国已经有能力设计第五代隐形战机，却仍然需要购买俄罗斯4.5代的Su-35S的原因。
中国目前仍无法设计和制造能媲美俄罗斯产的发动机和雷达系统。印度，中国的主要竞争对手之一，已经购买了配备无源相控阵雷达和获许本土化生产AL-31FP发动机的Su-30MKI。（译者吐槽：我怎么感觉目前中国只把美国作为主要战略对手，没有其他了呀）
在可能发生冲突中，拥有200公里距离追踪目标能力的印空军Su-30MKI可以轻而易举地解决掉中国战机。
根据加拿大汉和防务评论平可夫称，只具备RLPK-27VE综合雷达瞄准系统的中国Su-30MKK甚至不能发射俄制KS-172空空导弹。这就是中国正考虑安装无源相控阵雷达升级其战机的原因。另外虽然会导致价格大涨，中国也将（印度同款的）AL-31FP型发动机运用到了其J-15航母舰载机上。
轉自 http://www.santaihu.com/2014100108.html
升级雷达是正常的。
关键是用中的还是俄的？
汉和这里玩了个小花招，只要升级了就算他对了，顺带他黑j11系也好像对了一样。
关键是用中的还是俄的？
汉和这里玩了个小花招，只要升级了就算他对了，顺带他黑j11系也好像对了一样。
毛子的东西能不能别发了，太恶心人了。苏30已经让空军很崩溃了，还想再忽悠啊。
不像真的，难道要单买雪豹给MKK升级？
为100架MKK和MK2升级，还不如把钱用到新飞机制造上呢。
好主意，同时还应该将北海舰队的潜艇和38军的坦克各自升级来对抗印度的法国潜艇和俄国坦克。
我共更担心大HAL
哪个天才会在200公里的距离上发射空空导弹？
升级雷达是正常的。
关键是用中的还是俄的？
汉和这里玩了个小花招，只要升级了就算他对了，顺带他黑j11 ...
不要脸的总对，不要屁股的准魅。
关键是用中的还是俄的？
汉和这里玩了个小花招，只要升级了就算他对了，顺带他黑j11 ...
不要脸的总对，不要屁股的准魅。
俄罗斯要点节操不？为卖东西真什么都敢讲。中国什么时候拿印度当战略目标过？装备升级都针对印度的？SU30MK只布置中印边界？
平副局又发功了
苏30比我们的J11要性能好吗，为何不改进J11，还要大力改进苏30这货？毛子的东西能不能别发了，太恶心人了。苏30已经让空军很崩溃了，还想再忽悠啊。
让空军很崩溃 没那么夸张吧
让空军很崩溃 没那么夸张吧
不知道机体的寿命怎样，还有升级的必要否？
flyingsky999 发表于 2014-10-2 10:59
苏30比我们的J11要性能好吗，为何不改进J11，还要大力改进苏30这货？
SU30MKK的火控系统、任务计算机和例如诸多的飞控、环控。。。。等玩意儿都不能与兔子空军弹药、数据链、空情电子对抗等兼容。
要保持SU30MKK的战斗力，只能升级。
苏30比我们的J11要性能好吗，为何不改进J11，还要大力改进苏30这货？
SU30MKK的火控系统、任务计算机和例如诸多的飞控、环控。。。。等玩意儿都不能与兔子空军弹药、数据链、空情电子对抗等兼容。
要保持SU30MKK的战斗力，只能升级。
升级苏30是为了对抗印度，毛媒可真扯淡
借西方专家来鄙视tb？所以大毛子内心深处其实是美粉
苏三零的作战任务是攻击对方的苏三零吗？此文的逻辑纯粹搞笑。
不要脸的总对，不要屁股的准魅。
你说的哈意思？
你说的哈意思？
空军为什么要拿30去抗衡MKI？你当十年前哪？
MKK抗衡MKI，咋不说拿肥豹抗衡MKI。
147670 发表于 2014-10-2 11:21
SU30MKK的火控系统、任务计算机和例如诸多的飞控、环控。。。。等玩意儿都不能与兔子空军弹药、数据链、 ...
哦，学习了，那就升级吧；以后要买苏35，还真谈判谈好了，不然回来还得改造。
SU30MKK的火控系统、任务计算机和例如诸多的飞控、环控。。。。等玩意儿都不能与兔子空军弹药、数据链、 ...
哦，学习了，那就升级吧；以后要买苏35，还真谈判谈好了，不然回来还得改造。
147670 发表于 2014-10-2 11:21
SU30MKK的火控系统、任务计算机和例如诸多的飞控、环控。。。。等玩意儿都不能与兔子空军弹药、数据链、 ...
我觉得如果是按照你说的，那么也不可能给毛子去升级，而是我们自己做升级，不然对毛子就透明了
SU30MKK的火控系统、任务计算机和例如诸多的飞控、环控。。。。等玩意儿都不能与兔子空军弹药、数据链、 ...
我觉得如果是按照你说的，那么也不可能给毛子去升级，而是我们自己做升级，不然对毛子就透明了
到底是什么原因呢，感觉大多数媒体的军事武器报道还没军事论坛的靠谱，俄罗斯的航电和飞控有名的垃圾，还有出了大名的拦截飞机的j11屁股上就装的太行，这些媒体专家消息这么不灵敏？
细精灵 发表于 2014-10-2 12:05
我觉得如果是按照你说的，那么也不可能给毛子去升级，而是我们自己做升级，不然对毛子就透明了
又不是要融合进自己的底层结构里，怎么就透明了？
再说毛子也没可能对兔子透露自己在30MKK上的底层代码和火控数据呀。
至少在目前2014的联合演习里，兔子进口这批30MKK都无法使用国产弹药和配套的系统。
就像买进口车一样，你不去4儿子那里升级，自己弄的话厂家就不负责帮你维保了
我觉得如果是按照你说的，那么也不可能给毛子去升级，而是我们自己做升级，不然对毛子就透明了
又不是要融合进自己的底层结构里，怎么就透明了？
再说毛子也没可能对兔子透露自己在30MKK上的底层代码和火控数据呀。
至少在目前2014的联合演习里，兔子进口这批30MKK都无法使用国产弹药和配套的系统。
就像买进口车一样，你不去4儿子那里升级，自己弄的话厂家就不负责帮你维保了
平副局又发功了
脱光算！！！
脱光算！！！
PLA还建了好多厕所呢 印度应该考虑下中国的厕所威胁 然后与俄罗斯联合研制 新型第七代隐身 核动力厕所
用到烂也不会升级了，SU-30MKK买回来就不是拿来空优的更不是拿去对抗3哥的MKI的 只是海军想要一款扔反舰导弹的平台而已至于三哥为什么会买MKI至今意义不明，玩空中杂技么？
为100架MKK和MK2升级，还不如把钱用到新飞机制造上呢。
剛剛10年，做中期升級最好
剛剛10年，做中期升級最好
jttono1 发表于 2014-10-2 11:07
让空军很崩溃 没那么夸张吧
不是说Su30MKK都是给海航的吗？
让空军很崩溃 没那么夸张吧
不是说Su30MKK都是给海航的吗？
副局的工作呀！
flyingsky999 发表于 2014-10-2 10:59
苏30比我们的J11要性能好吗，为何不改进J11，还要大力改进苏30这货？
正因为J-11系列性能先进，才需要升级27/30这些落后的货
苏30比我们的J11要性能好吗，为何不改进J11，还要大力改进苏30这货？
正因为J-11系列性能先进，才需要升级27/30这些落后的货
不懂是不是俄媒的文章了。太没常识了:兔子什么时候拿苏30当空优使了？对抗三锅的是苏27,,歼10，再过两年是歼20
还一大批的7爷8爷没换，岂会把钱用在这些地方
还一大批的7爷8爷没换，岂会把钱用在这些地方
国内歼10和歼11的产能有限，毕竟现在不是1980年了，大规模增产以后又要愁歼20的产能来换歼11，慢慢来吧！
国内歼10和歼11的产能有限，毕竟现在不是1980年了，大规模增产以后又要愁歼20的产能来换歼11，慢慢来吧！
一个跳舞的民族不足为虑
怎么会用MKK去对抗MKI，脑子抽风了么？
话说KS-172研制成功了吗?
su30是拿来空战的？制衡？27和11不够对付su30mki？