俄苏-24电子战瘫痪美宙斯盾舰，我们的怎么样？

讲故事呢吧？

天方夜谭？？？还是睡前故事？？？

毛媒编故事的水平一向不亚于天朝，比起这个，我更相信F-22在大陆沿海被击落或者海豹突击队在中缅边境团灭~

不太可信吧。低空飞过是事实，可是。。。强电子干扰。。。就有点。。

这不亚于拖拉机跑赢法拉利

这也不知道是哪个国内不着边的军事网站瞎编的。。。。。

毛子的话也算数？

哪国的军队可以辞职？

Su24啊，古董啊，挑翻宙斯盾啊，一定是我没睡醒，我再睡会

恩，上帝视角很过瘾

“但突然，所有雷达屏幕都暗了下来”
显示器都停电了才可能。

毛子嘴炮安天下

毛子以前实干派，当年的“我舰奉命撞击你舰”多热血。。。
现在这就剩下打嘴炮了吹牛了。。。
不知道要是那个“骑士王的刚毅”还活着，会发表怎样的看法，如何给毛子把这个故事给圆上。。。
我看了LZ的话，第一反应不是电子干扰，而是EMP电磁脉冲弹啊。。。

EA18G封台海是真，苏24就没这本事了

我们的强5在离MD的军舰还有10000KM的时候，MD的军舰就已经直接消失了，对比一下毛子太差劲了，还要飞临上空，而且只是瘫痪！

直接在军舰上提交辞呈，这不是辞职，这是打工仔受不了连夜的加班，把老板炒了。
在部队，这能枪毙

这个故事老早就出来了，怎么又回锅了一次

毛媒崔币捏

JCFERRET 发表于 2014-9-22 21:50
“但突然，所有雷达屏幕都暗了下来”
显示器都停电了才可能。
哈哈，我也想这么说。 此文根本就是一派胡言，常识都没有

俄国人自己编造的这类自娱自乐的故事就算了吧， 连上故事会都嫌丢人

原始报导在此，Russian Radio，所以.....

姑且相信这次交锋存在，俄罗斯只会有SU-24单方面所认知的情况，对方军舰CIC里发生什么事情不晓得，靠谱一点是飞行员根据自己探知的美国军舰动作推断然后脑补，不靠谱一点是纯靠脑补。



http://indian.ruvr.ru/2014_04_21 ... S-Donald-Cook-5786/

Russian Sukhoi Su -24 with the newest jamming complex paralyzed in the Black Sea the most modern American combat management system "Aegis" installed on the destroyer "USS Donald Cook". Pavel Zolotarev, Deputy Director, Institute of USA and Canada, shares details about this version which is being actively discussed in the Russian media and by bloggers.

US destroyer "Donald Cook" with cruise missiles "Tomahawk" entered the neutral waters of the Black Sea on April 10. The purpose was a demonstration of force and intimidation in connection with the position of Russia in Ukraine and Crimea. The appearance of American warships in these waters is in contradiction of the Montreux Convention about the nature and duration of stay in the Black Sea by the military ships of countries not washed by this sea.

In response, Russia sent an unarmed bomber Su- 24 to fly around the U.S. destroyer. However, experts say that this plane was equipped with the latest Russian electronic warfare complex. According to this version, "Aegis" spotted from afar the approaching aircraft, and sounded alarm. Everything went normally, American radars calculated the speed of the approaching target. And suddenly all the screens went blank. "Aegis" was not working any more, and the rockets could not get target information. Meanwhile, Su-24 flew over the deck of the destroyer, did battle turn and simulated missile attack on the target. Then it turned and repeated the maneuver. And did so 12 times.

Apparently, all efforts to revive the "Aegis" and provide target information for the defence failed. Russia's reaction to military pressure from the United States was profoundly calm, feels the Russian political scientist Pavel Zolotarev:

The demonstration was original enough. A bomber without any weapons, but having onboard equipment for jamming enemy radar, worked against a destroyer equipped with "Aegis", the most modern system of air and missile defence. But this system of mobile location, in this case the ship, has a significant drawback. That is, the target tracking capabilities. They work well when there is a number of these ships which can coordinate with each other somehow. In this case there was just one destroyer. And, apparently, the algorithm of the radar in the "Aegis” system on the destroyer did not load under the influence of jamming by the Su-24. It was therefore not only a nervous reaction to the fact of flying around by the Russin bomber which was common practice during the Cold War. The reaction of the Americans was due to the fact that most modern system, especially its informative or radar part, did not work adequately. Therefore, there was such a nervous reaction to the whole episode.

After the incident, the foreign media reported that "Donald Cook" was rushed into a port in Romania. There all the 27 members of the crew filed a letter of resignation. It seems that all 27 people have written that they are not going to risk their lives. This is indirectly confirmed by the Pentagon statement according to which the action demoralized the crew of the American ship.

What are the possible consequences of the incident provoked by the U.S. in the Black Sea? Pavel Zolotarev forecasts:

I think that Americans are somehow going to reflect on improving the system “Aegis". This is a purely military aspect. In political terms, there is hardly any likelihood of demonstrative steps by either side. That is enough. Meanwhile, for Americans it is a very unpleasant moment. In general, the missile defence system which they deploy involves huge expenditures. They have to prove each time that it is necessary to allocate funds from the budget. At the same time, the ground component of the ABM was tested in ideal conditions and showed a low efficiency. This fact is concealed by the Pentagon. The most modern component, the sea-based system "Aegis" also showed its shortcomings in the present case.

The system with which the Russian Su-24 shocked the American destroyer "Donald Cook" has the code name "Khibiny". This is the name of the mountain range on the Kola Peninsula in the Arctic Circle. "Khibiny" is the newest complex for radioelectronic jamming of the enemy. They will be installed on all the advanced Russian planes .

Recently the complex has undergone regular testing exercises on the ground in Buryatia. Apparently, the tests which were conducted under conditions as close to real as possible, were successful.
Read more: http://indian.ruvr.ru/2014_04_21 ... S-Donald-Cook-5786/


原始报导在此，Russian Radio，所以.....

姑且相信这次交锋存在，俄罗斯只会有SU-24单方面所认知的情况，对方军舰CIC里发生什么事情不晓得，靠谱一点是飞行员根据自己探知的美国军舰动作推断然后脑补，不靠谱一点是纯靠脑补。



http://indian.ruvr.ru/2014_04_21 ... S-Donald-Cook-5786/

Russian Sukhoi Su -24 with the newest jamming complex paralyzed in the Black Sea the most modern American combat management system "Aegis" installed on the destroyer "USS Donald Cook". Pavel Zolotarev, Deputy Director, Institute of USA and Canada, shares details about this version which is being actively discussed in the Russian media and by bloggers.

US destroyer "Donald Cook" with cruise missiles "Tomahawk" entered the neutral waters of the Black Sea on April 10. The purpose was a demonstration of force and intimidation in connection with the position of Russia in Ukraine and Crimea. The appearance of American warships in these waters is in contradiction of the Montreux Convention about the nature and duration of stay in the Black Sea by the military ships of countries not washed by this sea.

In response, Russia sent an unarmed bomber Su- 24 to fly around the U.S. destroyer. However, experts say that this plane was equipped with the latest Russian electronic warfare complex. According to this version, "Aegis" spotted from afar the approaching aircraft, and sounded alarm. Everything went normally, American radars calculated the speed of the approaching target. And suddenly all the screens went blank. "Aegis" was not working any more, and the rockets could not get target information. Meanwhile, Su-24 flew over the deck of the destroyer, did battle turn and simulated missile attack on the target. Then it turned and repeated the maneuver. And did so 12 times.

Apparently, all efforts to revive the "Aegis" and provide target information for the defence failed. Russia's reaction to military pressure from the United States was profoundly calm, feels the Russian political scientist Pavel Zolotarev:

The demonstration was original enough. A bomber without any weapons, but having onboard equipment for jamming enemy radar, worked against a destroyer equipped with "Aegis", the most modern system of air and missile defence. But this system of mobile location, in this case the ship, has a significant drawback. That is, the target tracking capabilities. They work well when there is a number of these ships which can coordinate with each other somehow. In this case there was just one destroyer. And, apparently, the algorithm of the radar in the "Aegis” system on the destroyer did not load under the influence of jamming by the Su-24. It was therefore not only a nervous reaction to the fact of flying around by the Russin bomber which was common practice during the Cold War. The reaction of the Americans was due to the fact that most modern system, especially its informative or radar part, did not work adequately. Therefore, there was such a nervous reaction to the whole episode.

After the incident, the foreign media reported that "Donald Cook" was rushed into a port in Romania. There all the 27 members of the crew filed a letter of resignation. It seems that all 27 people have written that they are not going to risk their lives. This is indirectly confirmed by the Pentagon statement according to which the action demoralized the crew of the American ship.

What are the possible consequences of the incident provoked by the U.S. in the Black Sea? Pavel Zolotarev forecasts:

I think that Americans are somehow going to reflect on improving the system “Aegis". This is a purely military aspect. In political terms, there is hardly any likelihood of demonstrative steps by either side. That is enough. Meanwhile, for Americans it is a very unpleasant moment. In general, the missile defence system which they deploy involves huge expenditures. They have to prove each time that it is necessary to allocate funds from the budget. At the same time, the ground component of the ABM was tested in ideal conditions and showed a low efficiency. This fact is concealed by the Pentagon. The most modern component, the sea-based system "Aegis" also showed its shortcomings in the present case.

The system with which the Russian Su-24 shocked the American destroyer "Donald Cook" has the code name "Khibiny". This is the name of the mountain range on the Kola Peninsula in the Arctic Circle. "Khibiny" is the newest complex for radioelectronic jamming of the enemy. They will be installed on all the advanced Russian planes .

Recently the complex has undergone regular testing exercises on the ground in Buryatia. Apparently, the tests which were conducted under conditions as close to real as possible, were successful.
Read more: http://indian.ruvr.ru/2014_04_21 ... S-Donald-Cook-5786/

毛哥带我装逼带我飞的节奏？

这扯淡得。。。。。。

没有故事的人 发表于 2014-9-22 21:44
哪国的军队可以辞职？
自慰队可以

报告首长，F22被我用竹竿子捅下来了！

楼主从火星回来了？半年前的新闻了

lix_mx_ 发表于 2014-9-22 21:57
毛子以前实干派，当年的“我舰奉命撞击你舰”多热血。。。
现在这就剩下打嘴炮了吹牛了。。。
不知道要是 ...
哥斯拉里面的MUTO。

这是糗百的段子吗？

首先这个所谓“新闻”在半年前就炮制出来了，最初登载在俄罗斯媒体上，没有任何可靠地消息来源
其次军迷们动动脑子想想就知道这简直就是天方夜谭了。一架击剑手就能瘫痪宙斯盾？痴人说梦
最后我想问所有屏幕暗了起来、27人递交辞呈俄罗斯怎么知道的？看这文风难不成俄罗斯也有毛版铁血网

美国海军可以随意辞职?

从此节操是路人....

飞机和军舰比功率？

如果是 干扰机 和 雷达 一对一的话，干扰机胜算大，直接开 转发式干扰 就行了， AN/SPY-1 的显示屏上会出现很多很多的目标而失去发现目标的能力（对付转发式干扰，我觉得最有效的是大范围跳频，但现役应该只有 APG-77 能跳这么大；碰巧干扰机也带着频域宽开的接收机并且收发同时，APG-77 也没辙。 SPY-1 嘛，还是洗洗睡吧，S波段带宽就那么点儿，干不过干扰机的）

当然，前提是 一对一 ，如果雷达有多个，可以靠协同来提高干扰抑制能力

当然，文中有些描述很“戏说”

至于功率，不是问题。干扰机不需要多大功率

好吧，这是我还没睡醒，继续做梦去

毛媒编故事的水平一向不亚于天朝，比起这个，我更相信F-22在大陆沿海被击落或者海豹突击队在中缅边境团灭~

那你是没看过真理报。。。。。。甩土共半个位面，快赶上棒子了

最大的漏洞就是对美舰的描述过于详细， 俄国人怎么能知道美国军舰内部的事情?

yangbin2004 发表于 2014-9-22 22:07
直接在军舰上提交辞呈，这不是辞职，这是打工仔受不了连夜的加班，把老板炒了。
在部队，这能枪毙
LZ的标题想当然，您的回复也有点啊。建议了解一下美国的军队体系，辞职很正常。

怎么感觉不靠谱呢

这架苏24不是击剑手，是俄罗斯新研制的特种作战用可变战斗机