超级军网hq9的单子依然没最后决定
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Turkey’s deal with China over the construction of a long-range air and anti-missile system is not the final decision, President Abdullah Gül said yesterday.
That purchase is not definite. There is a shortlist, and China is at the top of it. We should look at the conditions, but there is no doubt that Turkey is primarily in NATO. These are multi-dimensional issues, there are technical and economic dimensions and on the other hand there is an alliance dimension. These are being evaluated. Turkey needs a defense system,” Gül said while onboard a plane that was en route to Turkey.
Earlier, the United States said on Sept. 28 that it had expressed serious concerns to Turkey over its decision to co-produce a long-range air and missile defense system with a Chinese firm under U.S. sanctions, Reuters reported yesterday.
Turkey, a member of the NATO military alliance, announced on Sept. 26 that that it had chosen the FD-2000 missile defense system from China Precision Machinery Import and Export Corp, or CPMIEC, over rival systems from Russian, U.S. and European firms.
CPMIEC is under U.S. sanctions for violations of the Iran, North Korea and Syria Nonproliferation Act.
“We have conveyed our serious concerns about the Turkish government’s contract discussions with a U.S.-sanctioned company for a missile defense system that will not be inter-operable with NATO systems or collective defense capabilities,” a State Department spokeswoman said on Sept. 28.
“Our discussions on this issue will continue.,” she said.
Some Western defense analysts have said they were surprised by Turkey’s decision, having expected the contract to go to Raytheon Co, a U.S. company that builds the Patriot missile, or the Franco/Italian Eurosam SAMP/T.
Deal worth $4 billion
The initial estimated contract price was $4 billion, but the Chinese offer stood at anywhere between $3 billion to $3.5 billion, although officials did not confirm any figure.
Turkey presently has no long-range air-defense systems. The $4 billion program, dubbed the T-LORAMIDS, is being designed to counter both enemy aircraft and missiles.
About half of Turkey’s network-based air defense radars have been paid for by NATO, and are part of the NATO Air Defense Ground Environment. “Turkey can always decide to build a standalone system. But in that case, abstracting the air defense system from NATO assets would mean that Turkey will lose half of its radar capabilities,” one defense analyst said earlier.
Turkey would need interface data to make its own air defense architecture interoperable with NATO assets, primarily data on the Identify Friend and Foe system. This is top secret and cannot be installed into any Chinese system.
September/30/2013
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com ... 7&NewsCatID=345
土耳其总统阿卜杜拉·居尔证实选择中国的HQ9来建设防空反导系统并不是最终的决定
看来随时有可能出状况Turkey’s deal with China over the construction of a long-range air and anti-missile system is not the final decision, President Abdullah Gül said yesterday.
That purchase is not definite. There is a shortlist, and China is at the top of it. We should look at the conditions, but there is no doubt that Turkey is primarily in NATO. These are multi-dimensional issues, there are technical and economic dimensions and on the other hand there is an alliance dimension. These are being evaluated. Turkey needs a defense system,” Gül said while onboard a plane that was en route to Turkey.
Earlier, the United States said on Sept. 28 that it had expressed serious concerns to Turkey over its decision to co-produce a long-range air and missile defense system with a Chinese firm under U.S. sanctions, Reuters reported yesterday.
Turkey, a member of the NATO military alliance, announced on Sept. 26 that that it had chosen the FD-2000 missile defense system from China Precision Machinery Import and Export Corp, or CPMIEC, over rival systems from Russian, U.S. and European firms.
CPMIEC is under U.S. sanctions for violations of the Iran, North Korea and Syria Nonproliferation Act.
“We have conveyed our serious concerns about the Turkish government’s contract discussions with a U.S.-sanctioned company for a missile defense system that will not be inter-operable with NATO systems or collective defense capabilities,” a State Department spokeswoman said on Sept. 28.
“Our discussions on this issue will continue.,” she said.
Some Western defense analysts have said they were surprised by Turkey’s decision, having expected the contract to go to Raytheon Co, a U.S. company that builds the Patriot missile, or the Franco/Italian Eurosam SAMP/T.
Deal worth $4 billion
The initial estimated contract price was $4 billion, but the Chinese offer stood at anywhere between $3 billion to $3.5 billion, although officials did not confirm any figure.
Turkey presently has no long-range air-defense systems. The $4 billion program, dubbed the T-LORAMIDS, is being designed to counter both enemy aircraft and missiles.
About half of Turkey’s network-based air defense radars have been paid for by NATO, and are part of the NATO Air Defense Ground Environment. “Turkey can always decide to build a standalone system. But in that case, abstracting the air defense system from NATO assets would mean that Turkey will lose half of its radar capabilities,” one defense analyst said earlier.
Turkey would need interface data to make its own air defense architecture interoperable with NATO assets, primarily data on the Identify Friend and Foe system. This is top secret and cannot be installed into any Chinese system.
September/30/2013
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com ... 7&NewsCatID=345
土耳其总统阿卜杜拉·居尔证实选择中国的HQ9来建设防空反导系统并不是最终的决定
看来随时有可能出状况
That purchase is not definite. There is a shortlist, and China is at the top of it. We should look at the conditions, but there is no doubt that Turkey is primarily in NATO. These are multi-dimensional issues, there are technical and economic dimensions and on the other hand there is an alliance dimension. These are being evaluated. Turkey needs a defense system,” Gül said while onboard a plane that was en route to Turkey.
Earlier, the United States said on Sept. 28 that it had expressed serious concerns to Turkey over its decision to co-produce a long-range air and missile defense system with a Chinese firm under U.S. sanctions, Reuters reported yesterday.
Turkey, a member of the NATO military alliance, announced on Sept. 26 that that it had chosen the FD-2000 missile defense system from China Precision Machinery Import and Export Corp, or CPMIEC, over rival systems from Russian, U.S. and European firms.
CPMIEC is under U.S. sanctions for violations of the Iran, North Korea and Syria Nonproliferation Act.
“We have conveyed our serious concerns about the Turkish government’s contract discussions with a U.S.-sanctioned company for a missile defense system that will not be inter-operable with NATO systems or collective defense capabilities,” a State Department spokeswoman said on Sept. 28.
“Our discussions on this issue will continue.,” she said.
Some Western defense analysts have said they were surprised by Turkey’s decision, having expected the contract to go to Raytheon Co, a U.S. company that builds the Patriot missile, or the Franco/Italian Eurosam SAMP/T.
Deal worth $4 billion
The initial estimated contract price was $4 billion, but the Chinese offer stood at anywhere between $3 billion to $3.5 billion, although officials did not confirm any figure.
Turkey presently has no long-range air-defense systems. The $4 billion program, dubbed the T-LORAMIDS, is being designed to counter both enemy aircraft and missiles.
About half of Turkey’s network-based air defense radars have been paid for by NATO, and are part of the NATO Air Defense Ground Environment. “Turkey can always decide to build a standalone system. But in that case, abstracting the air defense system from NATO assets would mean that Turkey will lose half of its radar capabilities,” one defense analyst said earlier.
Turkey would need interface data to make its own air defense architecture interoperable with NATO assets, primarily data on the Identify Friend and Foe system. This is top secret and cannot be installed into any Chinese system.
September/30/2013
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com ... 7&NewsCatID=345
土耳其总统阿卜杜拉·居尔证实选择中国的HQ9来建设防空反导系统并不是最终的决定
看来随时有可能出状况Turkey’s deal with China over the construction of a long-range air and anti-missile system is not the final decision, President Abdullah Gül said yesterday.
That purchase is not definite. There is a shortlist, and China is at the top of it. We should look at the conditions, but there is no doubt that Turkey is primarily in NATO. These are multi-dimensional issues, there are technical and economic dimensions and on the other hand there is an alliance dimension. These are being evaluated. Turkey needs a defense system,” Gül said while onboard a plane that was en route to Turkey.
Earlier, the United States said on Sept. 28 that it had expressed serious concerns to Turkey over its decision to co-produce a long-range air and missile defense system with a Chinese firm under U.S. sanctions, Reuters reported yesterday.
Turkey, a member of the NATO military alliance, announced on Sept. 26 that that it had chosen the FD-2000 missile defense system from China Precision Machinery Import and Export Corp, or CPMIEC, over rival systems from Russian, U.S. and European firms.
CPMIEC is under U.S. sanctions for violations of the Iran, North Korea and Syria Nonproliferation Act.
“We have conveyed our serious concerns about the Turkish government’s contract discussions with a U.S.-sanctioned company for a missile defense system that will not be inter-operable with NATO systems or collective defense capabilities,” a State Department spokeswoman said on Sept. 28.
“Our discussions on this issue will continue.,” she said.
Some Western defense analysts have said they were surprised by Turkey’s decision, having expected the contract to go to Raytheon Co, a U.S. company that builds the Patriot missile, or the Franco/Italian Eurosam SAMP/T.
Deal worth $4 billion
The initial estimated contract price was $4 billion, but the Chinese offer stood at anywhere between $3 billion to $3.5 billion, although officials did not confirm any figure.
Turkey presently has no long-range air-defense systems. The $4 billion program, dubbed the T-LORAMIDS, is being designed to counter both enemy aircraft and missiles.
About half of Turkey’s network-based air defense radars have been paid for by NATO, and are part of the NATO Air Defense Ground Environment. “Turkey can always decide to build a standalone system. But in that case, abstracting the air defense system from NATO assets would mean that Turkey will lose half of its radar capabilities,” one defense analyst said earlier.
Turkey would need interface data to make its own air defense architecture interoperable with NATO assets, primarily data on the Identify Friend and Foe system. This is top secret and cannot be installed into any Chinese system.
September/30/2013
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com ... 7&NewsCatID=345
土耳其总统阿卜杜拉·居尔证实选择中国的HQ9来建设防空反导系统并不是最终的决定
看来随时有可能出状况
好长的阴文，蛋疼，还好有最后一句主要内容说明
应该是定了的，看来这帮政客还不放过最后的机会来摆一道
意料中啊。。。。。
是给MD点面子，算是缓和一下
同时问奥黑：你若以这个价格转让技术我还可以买你的
奥黑立马脸更黑了
同时问奥黑：你若以这个价格转让技术我还可以买你的
奥黑立马脸更黑了
印度不是也选中了法国的阵风吗，现在不知道怎么样了。
里面说，土耳其一半的雷达防御系统是基于北约建设的。如果北约抽离，那么土耳其需要自行完善自己的独立系统。
土耳其确实也有可能只是拿中国来作为筹码，谋求北约或者欧洲框架内的更大的话语权。美国已经开始对土耳其施压，也许这正是土方希望看到的情况，就是想要美国重视它，坐下来谈谈自己的江湖地位问题。
就算最后丢了这个单子，也没关系，这次让世界都知道了中国的产品，也是一个广告了。
土耳其确实也有可能只是拿中国来作为筹码，谋求北约或者欧洲框架内的更大的话语权。美国已经开始对土耳其施压，也许这正是土方希望看到的情况，就是想要美国重视它，坐下来谈谈自己的江湖地位问题。
就算最后丢了这个单子，也没关系，这次让世界都知道了中国的产品，也是一个广告了。
看来土鸡面临的压力不小
其实就是缓和一下，给MD个面子
当然，只要MD能以同样的价格转让技术，还是可以再考虑的，但可能吗
当然，只要MD能以同样的价格转让技术，还是可以再考虑的，但可能吗
这个应该是定了的
就算最后黄了，中国已经够露脸的了，这广告的影响力绝对是原子弹级别的
楼主能否翻译下，俺4级都是别人帮着过的啊。
尚未正式签合同, 技术合作的细节尚需谈判, 是没有最后定论, 然而中标已代表着HQ9在这起军火交易竞赛中处于大幅领先的地位了.
黄六医生 发表于 2013-10-1 01:14
就算最后黄了，中国已经够露脸的了，这广告的影响力绝对是原子弹级别的
恩。从这坛子一天炸上来的1000条回帖就能看出来。。
就算最后黄了，中国已经够露脸的了，这广告的影响力绝对是原子弹级别的
恩。从这坛子一天炸上来的1000条回帖就能看出来。。
很简单，只要土耳其允许米国像在德国一样驻军嘛，并且部署弹道道导弹防御系统和核导弹....北约里的待遇立马提升
sisuloser 发表于 2013-10-1 01:03
里面说，土耳其一半的雷达防御系统是基于北约建设的。如果北约抽离，那么土耳其需要自行完善自己的独立系统 ...
关键是，今天是国庆节，即使改变意愿，也希望挑个好点的风水大师看好日子再宣布，当然，如果定要在今天宣布最后结果。。。。。那么。。。欢迎！！！！！！！
里面说，土耳其一半的雷达防御系统是基于北约建设的。如果北约抽离，那么土耳其需要自行完善自己的独立系统 ...
关键是，今天是国庆节，即使改变意愿，也希望挑个好点的风水大师看好日子再宣布，当然，如果定要在今天宣布最后结果。。。。。那么。。。欢迎！！！！！！！
不黄我吃键盘
难道故意放出些话来看MD反应？
不黄我吃键盘
为了这事吃键盘的海了去了，你最好先准备一个。
为了这事吃键盘的海了去了，你最好先准备一个。
不黄我吃键盘
只剩高分子键盘了！！！
只剩高分子键盘了！！！
敌我识别信息，不能泄，但这个不能解决吗
不黄我吃键盘
为这吃键盘的多了去了，用这种话哗众取宠，你算老几？
为这吃键盘的多了去了，用这种话哗众取宠，你算老几？
黄了黄了全黄了。。。土鸡的红酒必是黄色涂装。。。阔以吗？
小国的悲哀
土耳其总统算个球，他有1000块发票报销的签字权么？
土鸡家总统的地位是属于蹲在墙角画圈圈的。。。
选中红旗9也有可能是一场政治演出，让美欧等政治势力向土耳其妥协，以便于土耳其获得更大的利益，增加其在欧盟和北约的话语权，说不定最后来一出大逆转，爱国者成功逆袭，不过前戏也给红旗9做足了广告，抢了不少境头
折腾是正常的，这次能亮相也算值了。
中国导弹的考核成绩第一，价格最低，带生产线转让,拼不过就用下三烂的手段的阻挡，逼客户买更贵，更差，完全被制约的系统，中国导弹的广告已经打出，这出演广告的主角、配角和路人甲都表现良好。
黄六医生 发表于 2013-10-1 01:14
就算最后黄了，中国已经够露脸的了，这广告的影响力绝对是原子弹级别的
重要的不是广告效应，是对方阵营产生的动摇，这次代表着军心动摇了
就算最后黄了，中国已经够露脸的了，这广告的影响力绝对是原子弹级别的
重要的不是广告效应，是对方阵营产生的动摇，这次代表着军心动摇了
真要黄了也无所谓啊，我们已经赢了，美国看来是要“刷脸”了啊，呵呵。此事已非钱的事情了。这事成了，中国赚一笔钱，美国少赚一笔钱。要是黄了，美国的软实力就要受一次打击，要我选，宁可不赚钱。
壮哉我世界第二 发表于 2013-10-1 03:21
不黄我吃键盘
巧克力味的吧！！！
不黄我吃键盘
巧克力味的吧！！！
黄不黄已经不重要了，选了红酒，说明红酒性能不错，已堪大用了，战力上已不是问题。至于最后买的是哪家，更多的是政治问题，和性能关系不大。起码广告是打响了，通过打靶，也大概了解了其他三家导弹的战力，可以HKC一下了
奇怪了，楼上的都不知道内阁制和总统制的区别么？土耳其总统也就是个吉祥物
不到正式签合同，不到正式付定金，一刻也不能放松，要防止其他竞标方破坏。
突厥人一向喜欢出尔反尔撕单子。正常的说。
土国不能分包招标吗？爱国者买一些交保护费，再合作生产红9作为替代备用？
敌我识别信息，不能泄，但这个不能解决吗
此话何来，出口到每个国家都有不同的敌我识别，这不是理所当然吗
此话何来，出口到每个国家都有不同的敌我识别，这不是理所当然吗
这要黄了，公知们可要集体高潮了，各大军事节目，主流官媒可都把大话放了出去，狠狠的踩了一把md
qw4096 发表于 2013-10-1 17:22
此话何来，出口到每个国家都有不同的敌我识别，这不是理所当然吗
原文第13段
此话何来，出口到每个国家都有不同的敌我识别，这不是理所当然吗
原文第13段