看样子又要多个新玩意儿了，山寨版2B16

Designed to defeat manpower, weapons and equipment in support of the assault brigade. It is a combination breech-loading rifled-bore artillery piece capable of firing projectiles and mortar bombs from indirect and direct positions. The trails are spread automatically and closed with the help of a winch.


Development

For some years the Russian Army deployed two 120 mm gun/mortar systems, the 2B16 (NONA-K) towed system and the 2S9 full-tracked self-propelled system. The 2S9 is based on the BMD-1 airborne combat vehicle chassis which was developed at the Izhevsk plant with production of the latter BMD-2 being undertaken at the Volgograd Tractor Plant.

It is now known that these two weapons share the same 120 mm rifled ordnance and fire the same family of ammunition with the obvious logistic and training advantages to the user.

These 120 mm weapons combine the features of a howitzer and mortar in one system. In many respects they are unique weapons as there is no similar equivalent weapon system in the West.

The 120 mm 2B16 (NONA-K) towed system was developed in the 1970s at the famous Perm artillery facility and the Central Scientific Research Institute for Precision Machinery Construction.

It was accepted for service with the Russian Army in 1986 with the main user being the Russian air assault forces.

More recently, Russia has developed a new full-tracked self-propelled artillery system called the 2S31 which fires the same family of ammunition as the 2B16, 2S9 and 2S23 as well as a complete new family of 120 mm ammunition.

The 120 mm 2S31 is based on a much-modified BMP-3 infantry combat vehicle chassis. This remains at the prototype stage and details are given in a separate entry.

UN sources have stated that Russia did not declare any export of the 120 mm 2B16 (NONA-K) for the years 1992 through to 2006.


Description

Within the designation NONA-K the K (or Kolesnaya in Russian) stands for wheeled, with the weapon being mounted on a split trail carriage and each trail being provided with a castor wheel to assist in bringing the weapon quickly into action.

When travelling, the trails are closed together and locked and the complete upper part of the weapon is traversed through 180° and locked in position over the closed trails. This reduces the overall length of the system for travelling, which is considered important for air transport.

The 2B16 is normally towed by the GAZ-66 (4 × 4) 2,000 kg light truck which also carries the five-man crew and a quantity of ready to use 120 mm ammunition. Maximum towed speed on a good road is quoted as 80 km/h. For short distances it can be towed by the smaller UAZ-469 (4 × 4) 695 kg light vehicle.

When deployed in the firing position, the NONA-K is supported on a small circular baseplate that is located under the forward part of the carriage. The rubber-tyred road wheels are raised clear of the ground and the equipment rests on the two box-type spread trails, each of which is fitted with a spade.

The 120 mm/24.2 calibre ordnance, designated the 2A51, has 40 constant twist rifling grooves and is breech loaded. It can fire both Russian and Western natures of 120 mm rifled ammunition (for example that used by the French TDA 120 RT-61 towed mortar).

To reduce recoil forces on the barrel, a large box-type multibaffle muzzle brake is fitted which absorbs about 30 per cent of the recoil.

The hydraulic recoil system is mounted above the ordnance and extends about halfway along the barrel with the recuperator being of the hydropneumatic type. The breech mechanism is of the vertical sliding type with plastic gas obturator and a chamber indent device is fitted to retain the 120 mm projectile in place when the weapon is fired at high elevation.

The thin shield either side of the ordnance provides the crew of the 2B16 with some protection from small arms fire and shell splinters, with the left side of the shield being slightly higher than the right to protect the direct and indirect sighting system. The manual elevation and traverse controls are also on the left side of the weapon.

Types of Russian 120 mm special projectiles fired by the 2B16 include HE-FRAG (high-explosive fragmentation), HEAT (high-explosive anti-tank) and smoke as well as 120 mm mortar bombs.

The HE-FRAG projectile is called the OF-49, has a steel body and contains A-IX-2 explosive. There is also the OF-51 HE-FRAG projectile which also contains A-IX-2 explosive.

The rocket-assisted projectile is called the OF-50 with the motor cutting in 10 to 13 seconds after the projectile leaves the barrel. The HEAT projectile is fin-stabilised and will penetrate 650 mm of conventional steel armour at 90° to the vertical.

Standard 120 mm mortar bombs fired include the OF-843B, OF-34 and OF-38 high-explosive fragmentation, S-843 and 3S9 illumination, 3Z2 incendiary and 3D5 smoke. These have muzzle velocities of between 119 and 331 m/s and ranges of between 430 and 7,150 m.

The 120 mm ammunition for this as well as the 2S9, 2S23 and latest 2S31 has been designed and manufactured by the Bazalt State Research and Production Enterprise.

It has also been confirmed that the 2B16 will fire the Kitolov-2 laser-guided projectile out to a maximum range of 9 km. According to the manufacturer this has a 90 per cent hit probability on a stationary target and a 80 per cent hit probability on a moving target. Cyclic rate-of-fire is being quoted as three laser-guided rounds a minute.

The 2S9, also referred to as the NONA-S, has a similar ordnance to that used in the NONA-K but this is fitted with a system to purge the ordnance after the weapon has been fired. A pneumatically assisted rammer is fitted to increase the rate of fire and load the weapon at higher elevations. The ordnance is not fitted with a muzzle brake.

The latest 120 mm gun/mortar system to enter service is the 2S23, or NONA-SVK which is based on the chassis of the Russian BTR-80 (8 × 8) APC which has been in service with the Russian Army for some years.

This uses a modified version of the 120 mm 2A51 ordnance, which is called the 2A60, but ballistics and characteristics remain the same. Details are given in a separate entry.

Specifications
Property Value
Main weapon caliber (mm) 120
Firing range (m) 12000
Rate of fire (rds/min) 8
Depression (degree) -10
Elevation (degree) 80
Weight (kg) 1200
Crew 5

http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product1786.html


Designed to defeat manpower, weapons and equipment in support of the assault brigade. It is a combination breech-loading rifled-bore artillery piece capable of firing projectiles and mortar bombs from indirect and direct positions. The trails are spread automatically and closed with the help of a winch.


Development

For some years the Russian Army deployed two 120 mm gun/mortar systems, the 2B16 (NONA-K) towed system and the 2S9 full-tracked self-propelled system. The 2S9 is based on the BMD-1 airborne combat vehicle chassis which was developed at the Izhevsk plant with production of the latter BMD-2 being undertaken at the Volgograd Tractor Plant.

It is now known that these two weapons share the same 120 mm rifled ordnance and fire the same family of ammunition with the obvious logistic and training advantages to the user.

These 120 mm weapons combine the features of a howitzer and mortar in one system. In many respects they are unique weapons as there is no similar equivalent weapon system in the West.

The 120 mm 2B16 (NONA-K) towed system was developed in the 1970s at the famous Perm artillery facility and the Central Scientific Research Institute for Precision Machinery Construction.

It was accepted for service with the Russian Army in 1986 with the main user being the Russian air assault forces.

More recently, Russia has developed a new full-tracked self-propelled artillery system called the 2S31 which fires the same family of ammunition as the 2B16, 2S9 and 2S23 as well as a complete new family of 120 mm ammunition.

The 120 mm 2S31 is based on a much-modified BMP-3 infantry combat vehicle chassis. This remains at the prototype stage and details are given in a separate entry.

UN sources have stated that Russia did not declare any export of the 120 mm 2B16 (NONA-K) for the years 1992 through to 2006.


Description

Within the designation NONA-K the K (or Kolesnaya in Russian) stands for wheeled, with the weapon being mounted on a split trail carriage and each trail being provided with a castor wheel to assist in bringing the weapon quickly into action.

When travelling, the trails are closed together and locked and the complete upper part of the weapon is traversed through 180° and locked in position over the closed trails. This reduces the overall length of the system for travelling, which is considered important for air transport.

The 2B16 is normally towed by the GAZ-66 (4 × 4) 2,000 kg light truck which also carries the five-man crew and a quantity of ready to use 120 mm ammunition. Maximum towed speed on a good road is quoted as 80 km/h. For short distances it can be towed by the smaller UAZ-469 (4 × 4) 695 kg light vehicle.

When deployed in the firing position, the NONA-K is supported on a small circular baseplate that is located under the forward part of the carriage. The rubber-tyred road wheels are raised clear of the ground and the equipment rests on the two box-type spread trails, each of which is fitted with a spade.

The 120 mm/24.2 calibre ordnance, designated the 2A51, has 40 constant twist rifling grooves and is breech loaded. It can fire both Russian and Western natures of 120 mm rifled ammunition (for example that used by the French TDA 120 RT-61 towed mortar).

To reduce recoil forces on the barrel, a large box-type multibaffle muzzle brake is fitted which absorbs about 30 per cent of the recoil.

The hydraulic recoil system is mounted above the ordnance and extends about halfway along the barrel with the recuperator being of the hydropneumatic type. The breech mechanism is of the vertical sliding type with plastic gas obturator and a chamber indent device is fitted to retain the 120 mm projectile in place when the weapon is fired at high elevation.

The thin shield either side of the ordnance provides the crew of the 2B16 with some protection from small arms fire and shell splinters, with the left side of the shield being slightly higher than the right to protect the direct and indirect sighting system. The manual elevation and traverse controls are also on the left side of the weapon.

Types of Russian 120 mm special projectiles fired by the 2B16 include HE-FRAG (high-explosive fragmentation), HEAT (high-explosive anti-tank) and smoke as well as 120 mm mortar bombs.

The HE-FRAG projectile is called the OF-49, has a steel body and contains A-IX-2 explosive. There is also the OF-51 HE-FRAG projectile which also contains A-IX-2 explosive.

The rocket-assisted projectile is called the OF-50 with the motor cutting in 10 to 13 seconds after the projectile leaves the barrel. The HEAT projectile is fin-stabilised and will penetrate 650 mm of conventional steel armour at 90° to the vertical.

Standard 120 mm mortar bombs fired include the OF-843B, OF-34 and OF-38 high-explosive fragmentation, S-843 and 3S9 illumination, 3Z2 incendiary and 3D5 smoke. These have muzzle velocities of between 119 and 331 m/s and ranges of between 430 and 7,150 m.

The 120 mm ammunition for this as well as the 2S9, 2S23 and latest 2S31 has been designed and manufactured by the Bazalt State Research and Production Enterprise.

It has also been confirmed that the 2B16 will fire the Kitolov-2 laser-guided projectile out to a maximum range of 9 km. According to the manufacturer this has a 90 per cent hit probability on a stationary target and a 80 per cent hit probability on a moving target. Cyclic rate-of-fire is being quoted as three laser-guided rounds a minute.

The 2S9, also referred to as the NONA-S, has a similar ordnance to that used in the NONA-K but this is fitted with a system to purge the ordnance after the weapon has been fired. A pneumatically assisted rammer is fitted to increase the rate of fire and load the weapon at higher elevations. The ordnance is not fitted with a muzzle brake.

The latest 120 mm gun/mortar system to enter service is the 2S23, or NONA-SVK which is based on the chassis of the Russian BTR-80 (8 × 8) APC which has been in service with the Russian Army for some years.

This uses a modified version of the 120 mm 2A51 ordnance, which is called the 2A60, but ballistics and characteristics remain the same. Details are given in a separate entry.

Specifications
Property Value
Main weapon caliber (mm) 120
Firing range (m) 12000
Rate of fire (rds/min) 8
Depression (degree) -10
Elevation (degree) 80
Weight (kg) 1200
Crew 5

http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product1786.html

滑膛还是线膛滴？可否上车替代现有自行迫榴型号？

适用于山地？这是对三哥买777的回应吗

大早上就看到猛尿有点不适应，这玩意能给什么样的部队呢？

线膛，就是车上的装的迫榴的牵引版本。

maccimos 发表于 2013-9-7 06:30
滑膛还是线膛滴？可否上车替代现有自行迫榴型号？

线膛，就是车上的装的迫榴的牵引版本。

sduce 发表于 2013-9-7 07:39
适用于山地？这是对三哥买777的回应吗
不是，威力和射程都差太多。

谁能给科普下这东西是怎么个部署和作战方式？

我记得几年前  喜之郎版主就很关注这个2B16啊

炮口那一大坨是啥？

替代100不太可能吧？太重了，还得用牵引车

100迫可以人拉肩扛，这个怎么着也得用汽车拉吧，迫榴炮射程不算远，如果发生炮战，转移阵地来得及吗？

急速闪电 发表于 2013-9-7 08:29
炮口那一大坨是啥？
双室炮口制退器

100可以随身携带，以共军的秉性估计不舍得丢

啥时候怎么能有个自己原创的东西呀。

sduce 发表于 2013-9-7 05:39
适用于山地？这是对三哥买777的回应吗
根本不是一样东西，怎么比较？

十分期待
不过毛子2B16可是有1吨多的，咱这个减重能到哪般呢？2B16除了能平射和发射榴弹，弹道性能比起不少国家装备的法制MO-120有啥优势？毕竟战斗全重大了约一倍。这个玩意要是能像SRAMS上RG-31或野马全地形车那样成为一种车载炮就好了，05或者用89改底盘等新自行迫榴炮能做得到完全普及么？

YvesW 发表于 2013-9-7 09:06
100迫可以人拉肩扛，这个怎么着也得用汽车拉吧，迫榴炮射程不算远，如果发生炮战，转移阵地来得及吗？
我脚得关键是直升机,有了直升机转移阵地这货就威力倍增了

YvesW 发表于 2013-9-7 09:06
100迫可以人拉肩扛，这个怎么着也得用汽车拉吧，迫榴炮射程不算远，如果发生炮战，转移阵地来得及吗？
100炮的主要机动方式是靠汽车

这炮出来好多年了，土鳖现在才开始山寨。。。。。。

freiheit 发表于 2013-9-7 07:00
大早上就看到猛尿有点不适应，这玩意能给什么样的部队呢？
不用说，肯定是空降兵、山地作战部队。

我看它取代不了100迫

适用于山地？这是对三哥买777的回应吗
用120迫榴对应155榴？

山地部队？徐工徐工助您成功

snipe 发表于 2013-9-7 07:53
谁能给科普下这东西是怎么个部署和作战方式？
平时小车牵引，必要的时候上Z20吧，反正才一吨多，一个Z20刚好装一个炮班+弹药+外吊这玩意

学美帝，前面飞机在山头的丛林里丢一个雏菊修剪者清出一块空地，
这玩意跟炮班降下控制周围半径12公里内的区域

木图说个蔡国庆

车载迫榴炮本来就是2B16的改进型。

maccimos 发表于 2013-9-7 04:30
滑膛还是线膛滴？可否上车替代现有自行迫榴型号？

车载迫榴炮本来就是2B16的改进型。

Fan1 发表于 2013-9-7 13:24
车载迫榴炮本来就是2B16的改进型。
原来是下车……偶还以为TG又把毛子更新的那个型号给山寨了呢

Weight (kg) 1200
直升机吊运

2B16就是最新型号，长身管型没有牵引型。

maccimos 发表于 2013-9-7 13:37
原来是下车……偶还以为TG又把毛子更新的那个型号给山寨了呢

2B16就是最新型号，长身管型没有牵引型。

以前想的是别人能做我们也要能做，现在看多了，还是希望我们有自己独特的创新来自: Android客户端

怪不得老毛子要上火啊，换谁都受不了

YvesW 发表于 2013-9-7 09:06
100迫可以人拉肩扛，这个怎么着也得用汽车拉吧，迫榴炮射程不算远，如果发生炮战，转移阵地来得及吗？
土鳖慢慢也变得财大气粗了，这货估计以后是准备用直升机吊运的。

294349578 发表于 2013-9-7 09:38
啥时候怎么能有个自己原创的东西呀。
乃可以原创量子武器、高能光束武器嘛

YvesW 发表于 2013-9-7 09:06
100迫可以人拉肩扛，这个怎么着也得用汽车拉吧，迫榴炮射程不算远，如果发生炮战，转移阵地来得及吗？
迫榴炮射程不算远是和M777比吧，比100迫应该远多了。而且线膛的迫榴炮命中精度也肯定比滑膛的100迫好

山地部队？徐工徐工助您成功
我到过生产这货的车间。。。

超轻122还有机会么？

炮管翘得好高啊

比较胖狴犴 发表于 2013-9-7 22:35
迫榴炮射程不算远是和M777比吧，比100迫应该远多了。而且线膛的迫榴炮命中精度也肯定比滑膛的100迫好{:15 ...
12.8公里，跟美帝的105榴弹炮差不多，重量还轻

喜之狼 发表于 2013-9-7 10:57
100炮的主要机动方式是靠汽车
请教色狼:这个炮改改能不能放在它的上面来机动......