外国文坛评论：越南人以前是中国人吗?

Anyways, my question is, were Vietnamese once Chinese? No, right? Vietnamese used to live in Southern China a long long time ago, and settled in current Vietnam after some war or something. They never mixed with Chinese. Then the Northern Han Chinese soldiers escaped N.China afterward and went to Southern China to avoid war and famine, so the Southern Chinese today (from Shanghai to Guangdong/HK) are the descendants of the escapees of Northern Han soldiers.

Am I right? Vietnamese were never Chinese, right?

I'm so confused.

Thanks

我有个问题，越南人以前是中国人吗？不是，对不对？很久很久以前越南人住在南中国，后在战争之后移到了现在的越南。他们从来不和中国人通婚。然后北方汉人从中国北方逃到南方躲避战争和饥荒，所以今天的中国南方（从上海至广东/香港）是北方汉人逃兵的后代。

我说的对吗？越南人从来都不是中国人，对吧？


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XigonCongchua

What you say is pretty much it.
Though I would say no ethnicity on earth today is pure. So to say certain group is not mixed is rather absurd.

你说的都差不多对。

不过我觉得现在地球上没有那个种族是纯的。所以要说任何一个族群完全没有混血是很荒唐的。

Interesting post. Well, if they used to be Chinese, they must not like the Chinese very much because people now call them Vietnamese. But I am ashamed to say I am not familiar with Asian history. I should study it some time.

有趣的帖子。如果越南人以前是中国人，那他们肯定不是很喜欢中国人,因为大家都叫他们越南人了。

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JazzyQueen

Heeheheheh. Vietnamese were chinese in the past. Well, based on history of vietnam and china then vietnamese once were chinese. Anyway. today is different heheheh vietnamese is vietnamese and chinese is chinese. if you said so. why chinese are alway bulling vietnamese. ?
remember..... in the ancient time. Vietnamese were one province of china and population 2:60 with real Han and Han can not assimilate whole population. Now 1:6 it is real hard for them hahhahhaa

呵呵呵，越南人过去曾是中国人。根据越南和中国的历史，越南人曾是中国人。不过现在不是了，呵呵呵。越南人是越南人，中国人是中国人，如果越南人是中国人，那为什么中国人总是欺负越南人？

记住，在古代，越南是中国的一个省，当时越汉比例是2:60，汉人尚且不能同化整个越南人口。现在都1:6了，那就更加不可能了。

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cocoloco

NO, Viet were once Viet.

不是，越南人以前还是越南人

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eeniemeenie

I read somewhere that the pure Han Chinese are the ones who live between the Yellow River and Yangtze River in China, so the Chinese in China who live above or below this region are Han Chinese mixed with other ethnicities.
not sure how accurate this is though -.-

我在那里读到过说纯的汉人是那些住在黄河和长江流域的中国人，所以住在其他地区的中国人都有和其他民族混血。

不过我也不是很确定。

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savethezombies

that's like saying koreans, japanese, mongolians, and hmong were once chinese

你要不要说韩国人，日本人，蒙古人，苗族人都曾是中国人好了。

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RangerBlue

weren't we all Africans once upon a time too? I doubt any of us would say that we're Africans now

不是说很久很久以前我们都是非洲人吗？我想没人会说现在的我们也是非洲人吧？

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Buddhalove

I think viet and Chinese are Sibling.

我觉得越南人和中国人是兄弟。

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SoCal

Viets and Hans were originally from the yellow (between Yangtze River and Red River / Pear River) and red area (between Yangtze River and Huang He River), respectively.
It is silly to say that Viets were once Chinese or vice versa.

越南人和汉人分别源自黄色（长江和红河/珠江之前）和红色（长江和黄河之间）的区域。

说越南人曾是中国人或中国人以前是越南人是很白痴的。

YoursTruly

if you said so. why chinese are alway bulling vietnamese. ?
Here's your answer:

引用：如果越南人是中国人，那为什么中国人总是欺负越南人？

答案如下：
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QUOTE (Buddhalove @ Feb 10 2011, 09:02 PM)

I think viet and Chinese are Sibling.
Siblings like to fight, thats why you see Chinese and Vietnamese fighting all the time
All Asians are siblings and cousins in one way or another. The areas near Vietnam are Viets' siblings, and the Asian countries farther away from Vietnam are like cousins. That's why they're all called Asians

引用：我觉得越南人和中国人是兄弟。

兄弟都爱打架，这就是为什么中国人和越南人老是打架。所有的亚洲人在某种程度上都是兄弟。越南周边的国家是越南的兄弟，离越南远一点的国家就是表兄弟。这就是为什么我们都是亚洲人。

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VietSk8rGUI

i have a confession to make.....i was once chinese but uncle ho has showed me the way and now i am vietnamese

我要坦白…..我以前是中国人，但是胡uncle给我指明了方向所以现在我是越南人了。

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sunflowerseed

ic thanks for the map. That was what I thought...Vietnamese left Southern China before the Northern Hans took over it. I wasn't too sure before because I suck at any kind of history. Thanks for the clarification

引用之前的那个地图。

我知道了，谢谢你的这张地图。和我想的一样，越南人在北方汉人占领南中国之前就离开了。我历史不好所以不是很确定，谢谢你我现在搞清楚了。
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strongbad

Southern Han Chinese are more genetically similar to minority groups like Vietnamese while northern Han Chinese are closer to minority groups like Mongols than with each other.
Northerner's face tend to be more 'squarish' and flat. Many of them have single eyelid just like Koreans.
Southerner's face tend to have more bony features. Many of them have double eyelids.

南方汉人基因上和越南人接近，而北方汉人更接近蒙古人，而不是南方汉人。北方人脸方且扁，很多人像韩国人那样是单眼皮。南方人的脸比较瘦，很多都是双眼皮。

Anyways, my question is, were Vietnamese once Chinese? No, right? Vietnamese used to live in Southern China a long long time ago, and settled in current Vietnam after some war or something. They never mixed with Chinese. Then the Northern Han Chinese soldiers escaped N.China afterward and went to Southern China to avoid war and famine, so the Southern Chinese today (from Shanghai to Guangdong/HK) are the descendants of the escapees of Northern Han soldiers.

Am I right? Vietnamese were never Chinese, right?

I'm so confused.

Thanks

我有个问题，越南人以前是中国人吗？不是，对不对？很久很久以前越南人住在南中国，后在战争之后移到了现在的越南。他们从来不和中国人通婚。然后北方汉人从中国北方逃到南方躲避战争和饥荒，所以今天的中国南方（从上海至广东/香港）是北方汉人逃兵的后代。

我说的对吗？越南人从来都不是中国人，对吧？


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网民评论翻译:
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XigonCongchua

What you say is pretty much it.
Though I would say no ethnicity on earth today is pure. So to say certain group is not mixed is rather absurd.

你说的都差不多对。

不过我觉得现在地球上没有那个种族是纯的。所以要说任何一个族群完全没有混血是很荒唐的。

Interesting post. Well, if they used to be Chinese, they must not like the Chinese very much because people now call them Vietnamese. But I am ashamed to say I am not familiar with Asian history. I should study it some time.

有趣的帖子。如果越南人以前是中国人，那他们肯定不是很喜欢中国人,因为大家都叫他们越南人了。

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JazzyQueen

Heeheheheh. Vietnamese were chinese in the past. Well, based on history of vietnam and china then vietnamese once were chinese. Anyway. today is different heheheh vietnamese is vietnamese and chinese is chinese. if you said so. why chinese are alway bulling vietnamese. ?
remember..... in the ancient time. Vietnamese were one province of china and population 2:60 with real Han and Han can not assimilate whole population. Now 1:6 it is real hard for them hahhahhaa

呵呵呵，越南人过去曾是中国人。根据越南和中国的历史，越南人曾是中国人。不过现在不是了，呵呵呵。越南人是越南人，中国人是中国人，如果越南人是中国人，那为什么中国人总是欺负越南人？

记住，在古代，越南是中国的一个省，当时越汉比例是2:60，汉人尚且不能同化整个越南人口。现在都1:6了，那就更加不可能了。

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cocoloco

NO, Viet were once Viet.

不是，越南人以前还是越南人

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eeniemeenie

I read somewhere that the pure Han Chinese are the ones who live between the Yellow River and Yangtze River in China, so the Chinese in China who live above or below this region are Han Chinese mixed with other ethnicities.
not sure how accurate this is though -.-

我在那里读到过说纯的汉人是那些住在黄河和长江流域的中国人，所以住在其他地区的中国人都有和其他民族混血。

不过我也不是很确定。

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savethezombies

that's like saying koreans, japanese, mongolians, and hmong were once chinese

你要不要说韩国人，日本人，蒙古人，苗族人都曾是中国人好了。

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RangerBlue

weren't we all Africans once upon a time too? I doubt any of us would say that we're Africans now

不是说很久很久以前我们都是非洲人吗？我想没人会说现在的我们也是非洲人吧？

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Buddhalove

I think viet and Chinese are Sibling.

我觉得越南人和中国人是兄弟。

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SoCal

Viets and Hans were originally from the yellow (between Yangtze River and Red River / Pear River) and red area (between Yangtze River and Huang He River), respectively.
It is silly to say that Viets were once Chinese or vice versa.

越南人和汉人分别源自黄色（长江和红河/珠江之前）和红色（长江和黄河之间）的区域。

说越南人曾是中国人或中国人以前是越南人是很白痴的。

YoursTruly

if you said so. why chinese are alway bulling vietnamese. ?
Here's your answer:

引用：如果越南人是中国人，那为什么中国人总是欺负越南人？

答案如下：
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QUOTE (Buddhalove @ Feb 10 2011, 09:02 PM)

I think viet and Chinese are Sibling.
Siblings like to fight, thats why you see Chinese and Vietnamese fighting all the time
All Asians are siblings and cousins in one way or another. The areas near Vietnam are Viets' siblings, and the Asian countries farther away from Vietnam are like cousins. That's why they're all called Asians

引用：我觉得越南人和中国人是兄弟。

兄弟都爱打架，这就是为什么中国人和越南人老是打架。所有的亚洲人在某种程度上都是兄弟。越南周边的国家是越南的兄弟，离越南远一点的国家就是表兄弟。这就是为什么我们都是亚洲人。

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VietSk8rGUI

i have a confession to make.....i was once chinese but uncle ho has showed me the way and now i am vietnamese

我要坦白…..我以前是中国人，但是胡uncle给我指明了方向所以现在我是越南人了。

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sunflowerseed

ic thanks for the map. That was what I thought...Vietnamese left Southern China before the Northern Hans took over it. I wasn't too sure before because I suck at any kind of history. Thanks for the clarification

引用之前的那个地图。

我知道了，谢谢你的这张地图。和我想的一样，越南人在北方汉人占领南中国之前就离开了。我历史不好所以不是很确定，谢谢你我现在搞清楚了。
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strongbad

Southern Han Chinese are more genetically similar to minority groups like Vietnamese while northern Han Chinese are closer to minority groups like Mongols than with each other.
Northerner's face tend to be more 'squarish' and flat. Many of them have single eyelid just like Koreans.
Southerner's face tend to have more bony features. Many of them have double eyelids.

南方汉人基因上和越南人接近，而北方汉人更接近蒙古人，而不是南方汉人。北方人脸方且扁，很多人像韩国人那样是单眼皮。南方人的脸比较瘦，很多都是双眼皮。