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三哥都长篇大论~15年后中国将有200做特大城市
原文链接：http://news.rediff.com/
China’’s urban population is expected to swell up to a billion by 2025, and the country will have as many as 221 mega cities, 10 of them with over 10 million population each, leading consultancy McKinsey & Co says in its latest report.
大意先亮：2025年中国的城市人口将破10亿 （汗！~~怎么这么多呀~）， 全国将拥有221个特大城市，其中的十个城市人口将破百万~叉叉和叉叉在最近的报告中指出。
背景图片说我也要亮~（ 注意最右边~囧囧~可惜三哥们不知道它响亮的中文名字~）
不废话~帖子跟着亮~
and India is struggling to make another Metro.
印度要打造超级大都市
~by A P (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:23 AM ?
Hide repliesof this time in independence after the 4 metros just Bangalore and to some extent Hyderabad , Pune and Chandigarh are the only cities which could have been developed by India. What a shame!
捂脸逃走~印度独立这么多年~只有4座城市发展了~班加罗尔（科普：班加罗尔是印度南部著名的花园城市，以风光秀丽、气候宜人而出名。近年来，班加罗尔又以其计算机软件业闻名世界，被誉为亚洲的硅谷。）~海德巴拉（科普：印度第六大城市，安得拉邦的首府，位于印度中部。以其富饶的历史和建筑、清真教寺、庙宇而著名。它拥有丰富的艺术、手工艺和舞蹈的文化遗传。） ~普纳（科普：印度西部马哈拉施特拉邦经济、文化和交通中心，浦那专区和县的首府。人口市区约120万 ，包括郊区在内约169万。位于西高止山的内陆斜坡，海拔600米。）和佳德拉 （呃~这个科普已经不太好找了~大家见谅！ ），后三各城市勉强算是大城市吧。 （ 唉～～怎么说的这么可怜呀～～ ）
no wonder
不奇怪～
by RobinLongstride (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:24 AM ?| Hide replies
china is china, they have that thing in them to grow. Growth is faster than any of the Asian countries can even think of! they are coming out of their labour identity, they dont want to be tagged as cheap labour country anymore. they are well educated, branching into electronics and automobiles. India will still be 20 to 25 years behind china no matter what. The entire system has to change, this will when we have the right political leader..not as arrogant/hitler kinds as Jintao but atleast half like him, to streamline everything!!!
中国是中国，他们有自己的那一套。他们成长的这么快是任何亚洲国家没有想到的。他们的劳动力也变厉害了，甩掉了只有廉价劳力的标签。他们普及教育，深入电子和汽车产业。无论怎么说印度也和中国有２０至２５年的差距。我门国家的政体运作必须变革，我们需要好的政治领袖，不需要傲慢的希特勒，而需要一个锦涛 （请注意：原文就是Jintao~涛哥呀~你彻底亮了） ，哪怕有锦涛的一半也好呀，来治理国内的一切。
Re: no wonder
（回楼上）~~汗~三哥就爱长篇大论呀~
by Sanjay Durani (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:44
AM While analysing the gigantic growth of China which is surely growing by leaps and bounds,we have to keep in mind that there are still some areas in which they are lacking when compared to India like a democratic set-up, adherence to transparent and well agreed upon policies with consensus, an accountable political system, well disciplined armed forces working in tandem with the political leadership and of course giving refuge to the supressed people of its neighbouring countries (unlike china)who are exiled and banished from their lands by their own people or the govts. It is these qualities that has gained India respect the world over and it is because of this India is called a "GREAT" country and not because India has so and so weaponery and nuclear warheads. There are many problems also but they are bound to be there as we constitute a vast and diversified population. Having said that, the challenge and threat posed by china has opened up the opportunies and the healthy competition to India which is actually necessary to shake-up India’’s slow progress and complacent attitude. All the best to India......
在我们分析中国的巨幅增长的时候，虽然我们承认这种增长的强劲，但我们也要清醒的意识到他们还有很多地区（和印度这个民主国家比起来）缺少政治透明度，存在政治分歧，不具备负责任的政治体制，由于领导作风问题而军纪不够严明，对那些被邻国政府驱逐的受压迫的人们无法提供很好的庇护，而印度却不存在这类的问题。正是印度有这样好的特质让印度受到世界尊重并被称为伟大的国家，而不是因为印度有核武器和军事力量。中国有很多问题，但是中国注定了和我们一样是一个有多样化人口组合的庞大群体。对于中国来说，机会与危险并存，中国与印度的健康竞争有助于提高印度的增速和自满的态度。上帝保佑印度吧。（ 兄台，我服了你的大长句子和复杂的态度了~~~一句话占了一半篇幅呀~~翻译不对的求指教 ）
india is best
印度最NB
by anotherdumb indian (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:30 AM ?| Hide replies
AS LONG AS I HAVE MY 5000 YEAR OLD CULTURE I DONT MIND LIVING LIKE A GUTTER RAT
只要我们有5000年的古老文明，我不在意像地沟里的老鼠一样活着。（ 恭喜三哥贺喜三哥~~你们的确有5000年文明 ）
dedication required
明智的决定很重要。
by prasant nayak (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:32 AM ?|
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they want they design & develop themself & they do it.
他们想，他们计划，他们发展， 实 他们践。
Dsfd
（谁知道这是毛意思？缩写么？？）
by Arun Premraj (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:39 AM ?| Hide replies
we will have many mega urban slums by 2025
他们2025年会有大量的城市特级贫民窟才对。
Re: dsfd
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by Jamali (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:50 AM
These industrious Chinese and Pakistanis have made development of their countries as their religion and unless we wake up, I am afraid brother, we will be left even further behind because the gap between us and these countries continues to grow wider with each passing day.
由于人们的信仰（ 中国的信仰？？？难道只佛教？？）， 工业化的中国和巴基斯坦已经取得了巨大的发展。印度啊~~醒醒吧快，我想说，我们之间的差距将越来越大，这两个国家每天都在进步。
Re: Re: dsfd
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by jaapaal maatre (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:59 AM lolz, jamali,
哇哈哈~~Jamali(楼上兄台)你太搞了吧~
i do agree abt industrious chinese, but you should discuss abt industriousness of pakistanis on paki forums not here. we know all abt you and your paki brothers.
我同意中国的工业化成就，但你要说到巴基斯坦的工业化成就的话，请移步巴基斯坦论坛，别再这儿扯了。我们都知道你和你那些巴基斯坦兄弟是属于哪个国家的。
Idiot rediff
白痴网站（ 冲网站来的？ ？） by Juni (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:48 AM ?| Hide replies
They dont even know the meaning of Megacity.Megacity is a city with population more than 10 million."by 2025, and the country will have as many as 221 mega cities, 10 of them with over 10 million population each"That means by 2025 China will have 10 Megacities and not 200. Here 200 are for cities over 1 million population.
得了吧您呐~~~先搞搞清楚什么叫特大城市吧。
特大城市是指人口超过1000万的城市
你文章里自己都说了2025年中国有221个特大城市，超1000万的只有10个~，之就是说他们只有10个能叫做特大城市。你说的200个仅仅是指人口超过100万的罢了~切~
Re: Idiot rediff
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by shubasrikrishna (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 01:01 PM They meant mega cities in terms of infrastructure and not population.Yes we will surely top if Mega cities were calculated in terms of population.
他们说特大城市不是指人口好不好，指的是城市基础建设。
哦对了~如果城市级别是按人口来算的话我们毫无疑问会是最棒的。 （赶紧的吧～～计划生育呀）
@ ppl giving gyan on Indians are far behind Chinese
（不全看懂～大概就是对那些说印度比中国落后太多的人说些话）
by Debashree Chatterjee (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:57 AM ?| Hide replies
every country and economy has its own course of growth,.. India is one of the fastest growing country in the world!!I am definitely proud of that! If yu think lot of things are missing! why don’’t you come forward and do something for the country apart from blabbering nonsense onIndia! and a small thing... In China I doubt you have this amount of liberty to post your liberal cinical comments about the own country!! they dont have FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION if you don’’t know.... Evrything looks beautiful from far.... do something to make your country proud of you.. what about that??
每个国家和经济体有自己的成长方式。印度是世界上增速最快的经济体之一。我很骄傲。如果你觉得这不好那不好的，那你上台来干点事事儿，别只在那里扯印度的闲篇儿。反而，在中国，我怀疑能否看到这么多可以自由的发表反对自己国家的评论。这是为什么呢？他们没有言论自由呀没有言论自由呀（ 小羊我这里也激动了 ）。远看一切都是美好的～做些让国家因你而自豪的事实儿吧。可做的事儿有很多。
Re: @ ppl giving gyan on Indians are far behind chinese
（ 回楼上～老兄~~嫩这小论文爽了看帖的~苦了译贴的 ）
by Argumentative Indian (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:45 AM
The Chinese I met in Chinae are not at all upset about their lack of political freedom. In fact they seemed very happy with their lives, infrastructure & government. In Shanghai they told me that as recently as 20 years ago, it was a semi - urban dump & they are absolutely proud of the progress China has made, and seeing the landmarks of Shanghai, I couldn’’t fault them. They have complete economic, religious (I could not note any outward signs like a black robe covering from head to toe, or turbans or large Tilaks, though) and commercial - cultural freedom.
我在中国遇到的中国人并不都对没有政治方面的自由赶到不安。
事实上，他们生活的很开心，对城市基础设施和政府感到满意。再上海，那的人告诉我，在20年前，上海就是个半个城市半个垃圾堆，他们国家的进步和今天的成就感到骄傲。在我看到了上海的标志性建筑后，我相信他们说的话。他们有完整的经济体质，宗教（虽然我没有看到任何人穿着从头到脚的黑长袍或带着伊斯兰大头巾）和商业文化自由。
An American colleague posted in China told me, that at a recent poll in our company’’s China office, the employees voted politics as the most respected profession! The Chinese genuinely love and respect their politicians and their polic officers, I’’m told a Chinese police officer earns $ 10,000 p.a. in a city like Shanghai!
一个美国同事参与了一次在中国的的投票，他告诉我，在一次公司内负责中国区域的投票中，所有员工有很尊重正果的政体。中国人民爱戴他们的政治领袖。我被告知一个中国警察在上海这样的城市一年赚10000美元。（ 不要怀疑~~最后一句话我翻译的没问题 ~）
The ONLY lack of freedom I found was, when my Indian colleague, warned me not to cross the road in the middle away from the traffic sign, as it is against the law and when he had tried it last time he visited China, a police car appeared out of nowhere and took him off to the police station! He was finally rescued by our local China office people, but after all formalities!
我感受到唯一一点不自由的是，我的同时曾提醒我不要违反交规。（因为这违反法律而且上次该同事已经亲自体验了一把，结果背警车弄到一边还带劲了局子）。在走完了所有正式手续后，该同事背本地的中国同事带了出来。
BTW, the average Chinese engineer, doctor, technician, nurse, cobbler, sweeper etc. etc. does NOT do any nation building, they only do their own work.
顺便说一句，一般中国工程师~艺声~技术人员~护士~鞋匠~清洁工~等等都不操心国家建设~~他们只负责做好自己的本职工作。
Re: Re: @ ppl giving gyan on Indians are far behind Chinese
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by Hari Narasimhan (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 11:58 AM While I do agree with your views, your examples only address people in cities and Americans working in China.China is following the principle of "selective development", in that all development is limited to only a few areas and not the country as a whole. People living in rural areas in China do not have access to any of the basic human rights. The dictatorship decides who should live a good lifestyle and who should not. There is no way anyone can protest against this discriminatory development since villagers are at the mercy of the dictatorship.
我顶你·，你的例子只说明了城市居民和在中国工作的美国人的观点。中国一直奉行选择性发展，这是因为这些发展之局限在个别地区而不是全中国。农村人民没有享受到基本的权利。领导人决定了谁生活的好谁生活的不好。没有人能反对这种畸形的发展，因为农村人门只能听政府摆布。
There was an article in a kannada magazine on how the Beijing olympics were conducted.It highlights the flip side very well and mind you, this article was not written by an American or a westerner but by a kannadiga Indian journalist who visited China.Millions of poor people were affected by this but none of it came out and nobody dared to protest since they were afraid that they would be massacred.Villagers were not even allowed to see the Olympics that their own country was hosting. Even otherwise villagers are not allowed into major developed areas like Shanghai, Shenzen etc.People may argue that they won many medals, but at what cost? Poor children are not treated as human beings but merely as medal factories. Their parents are so poor and at the mercy of the dictatorship that they dare not protest
我看过一篇加拿大杂志上写的北京奥运会是如何操作的。作者强调了许多人们忽视的小的方面，我必须要提醒你，这篇文章不是美国或西方的人写的，而是一位曾到过中国的加拿大籍印度记着。为了奥运会，数以万计的穷苦人民深受其害，但是没有人站出来，没有人感反对，因为他们害怕被杀害。（ 我靠~有没有那么夸张啊 ~）。农村人甚至不被允许观看他们自己国家举办的比赛。甚至这些人不被允许进入上海深圳这样的大城市。人们会说虽然我们赢了那么多金牌，但是又有何用？可怜的从穷人家出来当运动员的孩子根本不被当看成人，只是制造金牌的机器。因为他们的父母太穷了~孩子只好听凭政府摆布~不敢发表任何怨言。
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Chinese
（ 这一帖长的要死了~~~这位还没说完呢 ）
by Hari Narasimhan (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 11:59 AM continued from above...It is like calling a man a millionaire just because he has hosted a lavish party after starving one out of three of his children.I am only trying to put things straight. Any comments/questions are welcome
我继续我的话（ 您少说点吧~~~看的爽了~~译得哭了 ~）
就想一个人被别人看作百万富翁是因为他为了举办一场奢华的宴会而饿死了他三分之一的孩子。
我只是有话直说，欢迎拍砖。（ 总算完了 ）
Re: @ ppl giving gyan on Indians are far behind Chinese
（回第一个人）
by kalpesh shah (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:07 AM
this country is den of dead soul..they forget anddigest any thing.....curruption running in veins...every thing is artificial be it medicine or edible item..
这个国家就是个贼窝，他们忘记并消耗任何东西
他们从骨子里就腐朽不堪
一切的一切都是伪造的~~从医药到实物~~
Re: Re: @ ppl giving gyan on Indians are far behind Chinese
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by Sunil Swain (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:56 AM
coming to adulteration.. India beats china in tat.. You think like that abt china but when you come to indian shops you’’ll see more adulteration..
说道假货，中国完败印度了，你这样想中国，但当你到了印度商店你会看到更多的假货。
Capitalist India & Communist China.
资本主义印度和共产主义中国。
by Suresh Babu (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:57 AM ?| Hide replies
Mukesh Ambani had a house at Mumbai costing around Rs. 4500 crores and this is largest residential building in the world
穆凯什?阿姆巴尼（科普：印度最大民营企业信诚工业集团(Reliance Industries)的董事长，,印度的新首富。）在孟买的房子价值4500卢比（6300RMB），这是世界上最大的民宅建筑了。
Re: Capitalist India & Communist China.
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by Amit Bansal (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:13 AM So, what’’s the point here between the two....
所以呢？跟那两者有什么关系？？
after 15 years india became hell of the world
15年后印度就已经变成地狱了
by kalpesh shah (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:04 AM | Hide replies
thanks to our secular leaders and their policy..
and our techno savvy gen x...
感谢领导了我们这么长时间的政府吧以及他们的政策，
还有军事技术人员X（ 这个？？？有点不太会翻 ）
Re: after 15 years india became hell of the world
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by p sadfd (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:11 AM
I am just late by minutes to comment the same words...adding to it,
can these people even make one mega city in INDIA in next 20yrs...and
shouting like...what great job they r doing for the country & public...
看来我完了几秒呀~~你说了我也想说的话~再补充一句~
我怀疑这些人是否能在未来的20年中建成一座特大城市，并大声炫耀着~比如：啊~我们
为国家做了些多么了不起的事情呀~~
India will have 100 jumbo cities
印度会有100座大城市
by ganesh pillai (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:09 AM | Hide replies
Nobody can beat India when it comes to big cities. How clean and well maintained they are ?
Indian cities have good roads, good water, nice people, accident free (during traffic jams) etc.
yahoo
说道大城市，印度绝对无敌~~我们的城市是多么的干净和井井有条呀~~
印度城市有很好的道路，干净的水，热心的人，在交通堵塞的时候不不会有交通事故。~
嗯哼~~
补上链接：http://www.baidu.com/s?wd=%C3%C0%B9%FA%CD%F8%D3%D1%CC%B8%C2%DB%D6%D0%B9%FA&pn=20&tn=site888_pg三哥都长篇大论~15年后中国将有200做特大城市
原文链接：http://news.rediff.com/
China’’s urban population is expected to swell up to a billion by 2025, and the country will have as many as 221 mega cities, 10 of them with over 10 million population each, leading consultancy McKinsey & Co says in its latest report.
大意先亮：2025年中国的城市人口将破10亿 （汗！~~怎么这么多呀~）， 全国将拥有221个特大城市，其中的十个城市人口将破百万~叉叉和叉叉在最近的报告中指出。
背景图片说我也要亮~（ 注意最右边~囧囧~可惜三哥们不知道它响亮的中文名字~）
不废话~帖子跟着亮~
and India is struggling to make another Metro.
印度要打造超级大都市
~by A P (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:23 AM ?
Hide repliesof this time in independence after the 4 metros just Bangalore and to some extent Hyderabad , Pune and Chandigarh are the only cities which could have been developed by India. What a shame!
捂脸逃走~印度独立这么多年~只有4座城市发展了~班加罗尔（科普：班加罗尔是印度南部著名的花园城市，以风光秀丽、气候宜人而出名。近年来，班加罗尔又以其计算机软件业闻名世界，被誉为亚洲的硅谷。）~海德巴拉（科普：印度第六大城市，安得拉邦的首府，位于印度中部。以其富饶的历史和建筑、清真教寺、庙宇而著名。它拥有丰富的艺术、手工艺和舞蹈的文化遗传。） ~普纳（科普：印度西部马哈拉施特拉邦经济、文化和交通中心，浦那专区和县的首府。人口市区约120万 ，包括郊区在内约169万。位于西高止山的内陆斜坡，海拔600米。）和佳德拉 （呃~这个科普已经不太好找了~大家见谅！ ），后三各城市勉强算是大城市吧。 （ 唉～～怎么说的这么可怜呀～～ ）
no wonder
不奇怪～
by RobinLongstride (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:24 AM ?| Hide replies
china is china, they have that thing in them to grow. Growth is faster than any of the Asian countries can even think of! they are coming out of their labour identity, they dont want to be tagged as cheap labour country anymore. they are well educated, branching into electronics and automobiles. India will still be 20 to 25 years behind china no matter what. The entire system has to change, this will when we have the right political leader..not as arrogant/hitler kinds as Jintao but atleast half like him, to streamline everything!!!
中国是中国，他们有自己的那一套。他们成长的这么快是任何亚洲国家没有想到的。他们的劳动力也变厉害了，甩掉了只有廉价劳力的标签。他们普及教育，深入电子和汽车产业。无论怎么说印度也和中国有２０至２５年的差距。我门国家的政体运作必须变革，我们需要好的政治领袖，不需要傲慢的希特勒，而需要一个锦涛 （请注意：原文就是Jintao~涛哥呀~你彻底亮了） ，哪怕有锦涛的一半也好呀，来治理国内的一切。
Re: no wonder
（回楼上）~~汗~三哥就爱长篇大论呀~
by Sanjay Durani (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:44
AM While analysing the gigantic growth of China which is surely growing by leaps and bounds,we have to keep in mind that there are still some areas in which they are lacking when compared to India like a democratic set-up, adherence to transparent and well agreed upon policies with consensus, an accountable political system, well disciplined armed forces working in tandem with the political leadership and of course giving refuge to the supressed people of its neighbouring countries (unlike china)who are exiled and banished from their lands by their own people or the govts. It is these qualities that has gained India respect the world over and it is because of this India is called a "GREAT" country and not because India has so and so weaponery and nuclear warheads. There are many problems also but they are bound to be there as we constitute a vast and diversified population. Having said that, the challenge and threat posed by china has opened up the opportunies and the healthy competition to India which is actually necessary to shake-up India’’s slow progress and complacent attitude. All the best to India......
在我们分析中国的巨幅增长的时候，虽然我们承认这种增长的强劲，但我们也要清醒的意识到他们还有很多地区（和印度这个民主国家比起来）缺少政治透明度，存在政治分歧，不具备负责任的政治体制，由于领导作风问题而军纪不够严明，对那些被邻国政府驱逐的受压迫的人们无法提供很好的庇护，而印度却不存在这类的问题。正是印度有这样好的特质让印度受到世界尊重并被称为伟大的国家，而不是因为印度有核武器和军事力量。中国有很多问题，但是中国注定了和我们一样是一个有多样化人口组合的庞大群体。对于中国来说，机会与危险并存，中国与印度的健康竞争有助于提高印度的增速和自满的态度。上帝保佑印度吧。（ 兄台，我服了你的大长句子和复杂的态度了~~~一句话占了一半篇幅呀~~翻译不对的求指教 ）
india is best
印度最NB
by anotherdumb indian (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:30 AM ?| Hide replies
AS LONG AS I HAVE MY 5000 YEAR OLD CULTURE I DONT MIND LIVING LIKE A GUTTER RAT
只要我们有5000年的古老文明，我不在意像地沟里的老鼠一样活着。（ 恭喜三哥贺喜三哥~~你们的确有5000年文明 ）
dedication required
明智的决定很重要。
by prasant nayak (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:32 AM ?|
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they want they design & develop themself & they do it.
他们想，他们计划，他们发展， 实 他们践。
Dsfd
（谁知道这是毛意思？缩写么？？）
by Arun Premraj (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:39 AM ?| Hide replies
we will have many mega urban slums by 2025
他们2025年会有大量的城市特级贫民窟才对。
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by Jamali (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:50 AM
These industrious Chinese and Pakistanis have made development of their countries as their religion and unless we wake up, I am afraid brother, we will be left even further behind because the gap between us and these countries continues to grow wider with each passing day.
由于人们的信仰（ 中国的信仰？？？难道只佛教？？）， 工业化的中国和巴基斯坦已经取得了巨大的发展。印度啊~~醒醒吧快，我想说，我们之间的差距将越来越大，这两个国家每天都在进步。
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by jaapaal maatre (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:59 AM lolz, jamali,
哇哈哈~~Jamali(楼上兄台)你太搞了吧~
i do agree abt industrious chinese, but you should discuss abt industriousness of pakistanis on paki forums not here. we know all abt you and your paki brothers.
我同意中国的工业化成就，但你要说到巴基斯坦的工业化成就的话，请移步巴基斯坦论坛，别再这儿扯了。我们都知道你和你那些巴基斯坦兄弟是属于哪个国家的。
Idiot rediff
白痴网站（ 冲网站来的？ ？） by Juni (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:48 AM ?| Hide replies
They dont even know the meaning of Megacity.Megacity is a city with population more than 10 million."by 2025, and the country will have as many as 221 mega cities, 10 of them with over 10 million population each"That means by 2025 China will have 10 Megacities and not 200. Here 200 are for cities over 1 million population.
得了吧您呐~~~先搞搞清楚什么叫特大城市吧。
特大城市是指人口超过1000万的城市
你文章里自己都说了2025年中国有221个特大城市，超1000万的只有10个~，之就是说他们只有10个能叫做特大城市。你说的200个仅仅是指人口超过100万的罢了~切~
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by shubasrikrishna (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 01:01 PM They meant mega cities in terms of infrastructure and not population.Yes we will surely top if Mega cities were calculated in terms of population.
他们说特大城市不是指人口好不好，指的是城市基础建设。
哦对了~如果城市级别是按人口来算的话我们毫无疑问会是最棒的。 （赶紧的吧～～计划生育呀）
@ ppl giving gyan on Indians are far behind Chinese
（不全看懂～大概就是对那些说印度比中国落后太多的人说些话）
by Debashree Chatterjee (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:57 AM ?| Hide replies
every country and economy has its own course of growth,.. India is one of the fastest growing country in the world!!I am definitely proud of that! If yu think lot of things are missing! why don’’t you come forward and do something for the country apart from blabbering nonsense onIndia! and a small thing... In China I doubt you have this amount of liberty to post your liberal cinical comments about the own country!! they dont have FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION if you don’’t know.... Evrything looks beautiful from far.... do something to make your country proud of you.. what about that??
每个国家和经济体有自己的成长方式。印度是世界上增速最快的经济体之一。我很骄傲。如果你觉得这不好那不好的，那你上台来干点事事儿，别只在那里扯印度的闲篇儿。反而，在中国，我怀疑能否看到这么多可以自由的发表反对自己国家的评论。这是为什么呢？他们没有言论自由呀没有言论自由呀（ 小羊我这里也激动了 ）。远看一切都是美好的～做些让国家因你而自豪的事实儿吧。可做的事儿有很多。
Re: @ ppl giving gyan on Indians are far behind chinese
（ 回楼上～老兄~~嫩这小论文爽了看帖的~苦了译贴的 ）
by Argumentative Indian (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:45 AM
The Chinese I met in Chinae are not at all upset about their lack of political freedom. In fact they seemed very happy with their lives, infrastructure & government. In Shanghai they told me that as recently as 20 years ago, it was a semi - urban dump & they are absolutely proud of the progress China has made, and seeing the landmarks of Shanghai, I couldn’’t fault them. They have complete economic, religious (I could not note any outward signs like a black robe covering from head to toe, or turbans or large Tilaks, though) and commercial - cultural freedom.
我在中国遇到的中国人并不都对没有政治方面的自由赶到不安。
事实上，他们生活的很开心，对城市基础设施和政府感到满意。再上海，那的人告诉我，在20年前，上海就是个半个城市半个垃圾堆，他们国家的进步和今天的成就感到骄傲。在我看到了上海的标志性建筑后，我相信他们说的话。他们有完整的经济体质，宗教（虽然我没有看到任何人穿着从头到脚的黑长袍或带着伊斯兰大头巾）和商业文化自由。
An American colleague posted in China told me, that at a recent poll in our company’’s China office, the employees voted politics as the most respected profession! The Chinese genuinely love and respect their politicians and their polic officers, I’’m told a Chinese police officer earns $ 10,000 p.a. in a city like Shanghai!
一个美国同事参与了一次在中国的的投票，他告诉我，在一次公司内负责中国区域的投票中，所有员工有很尊重正果的政体。中国人民爱戴他们的政治领袖。我被告知一个中国警察在上海这样的城市一年赚10000美元。（ 不要怀疑~~最后一句话我翻译的没问题 ~）
The ONLY lack of freedom I found was, when my Indian colleague, warned me not to cross the road in the middle away from the traffic sign, as it is against the law and when he had tried it last time he visited China, a police car appeared out of nowhere and took him off to the police station! He was finally rescued by our local China office people, but after all formalities!
我感受到唯一一点不自由的是，我的同时曾提醒我不要违反交规。（因为这违反法律而且上次该同事已经亲自体验了一把，结果背警车弄到一边还带劲了局子）。在走完了所有正式手续后，该同事背本地的中国同事带了出来。
BTW, the average Chinese engineer, doctor, technician, nurse, cobbler, sweeper etc. etc. does NOT do any nation building, they only do their own work.
顺便说一句，一般中国工程师~艺声~技术人员~护士~鞋匠~清洁工~等等都不操心国家建设~~他们只负责做好自己的本职工作。
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by Hari Narasimhan (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 11:58 AM While I do agree with your views, your examples only address people in cities and Americans working in China.China is following the principle of "selective development", in that all development is limited to only a few areas and not the country as a whole. People living in rural areas in China do not have access to any of the basic human rights. The dictatorship decides who should live a good lifestyle and who should not. There is no way anyone can protest against this discriminatory development since villagers are at the mercy of the dictatorship.
我顶你·，你的例子只说明了城市居民和在中国工作的美国人的观点。中国一直奉行选择性发展，这是因为这些发展之局限在个别地区而不是全中国。农村人民没有享受到基本的权利。领导人决定了谁生活的好谁生活的不好。没有人能反对这种畸形的发展，因为农村人门只能听政府摆布。
There was an article in a kannada magazine on how the Beijing olympics were conducted.It highlights the flip side very well and mind you, this article was not written by an American or a westerner but by a kannadiga Indian journalist who visited China.Millions of poor people were affected by this but none of it came out and nobody dared to protest since they were afraid that they would be massacred.Villagers were not even allowed to see the Olympics that their own country was hosting. Even otherwise villagers are not allowed into major developed areas like Shanghai, Shenzen etc.People may argue that they won many medals, but at what cost? Poor children are not treated as human beings but merely as medal factories. Their parents are so poor and at the mercy of the dictatorship that they dare not protest
我看过一篇加拿大杂志上写的北京奥运会是如何操作的。作者强调了许多人们忽视的小的方面，我必须要提醒你，这篇文章不是美国或西方的人写的，而是一位曾到过中国的加拿大籍印度记着。为了奥运会，数以万计的穷苦人民深受其害，但是没有人站出来，没有人感反对，因为他们害怕被杀害。（ 我靠~有没有那么夸张啊 ~）。农村人甚至不被允许观看他们自己国家举办的比赛。甚至这些人不被允许进入上海深圳这样的大城市。人们会说虽然我们赢了那么多金牌，但是又有何用？可怜的从穷人家出来当运动员的孩子根本不被当看成人，只是制造金牌的机器。因为他们的父母太穷了~孩子只好听凭政府摆布~不敢发表任何怨言。
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Chinese
（ 这一帖长的要死了~~~这位还没说完呢 ）
by Hari Narasimhan (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 11:59 AM continued from above...It is like calling a man a millionaire just because he has hosted a lavish party after starving one out of three of his children.I am only trying to put things straight. Any comments/questions are welcome
我继续我的话（ 您少说点吧~~~看的爽了~~译得哭了 ~）
就想一个人被别人看作百万富翁是因为他为了举办一场奢华的宴会而饿死了他三分之一的孩子。
我只是有话直说，欢迎拍砖。（ 总算完了 ）
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by kalpesh shah (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:07 AM
this country is den of dead soul..they forget anddigest any thing.....curruption running in veins...every thing is artificial be it medicine or edible item..
这个国家就是个贼窝，他们忘记并消耗任何东西
他们从骨子里就腐朽不堪
一切的一切都是伪造的~~从医药到实物~~
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by Sunil Swain (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:56 AM
coming to adulteration.. India beats china in tat.. You think like that abt china but when you come to indian shops you’’ll see more adulteration..
说道假货，中国完败印度了，你这样想中国，但当你到了印度商店你会看到更多的假货。
Capitalist India & Communist China.
资本主义印度和共产主义中国。
by Suresh Babu (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:57 AM ?| Hide replies
Mukesh Ambani had a house at Mumbai costing around Rs. 4500 crores and this is largest residential building in the world
穆凯什?阿姆巴尼（科普：印度最大民营企业信诚工业集团(Reliance Industries)的董事长，,印度的新首富。）在孟买的房子价值4500卢比（6300RMB），这是世界上最大的民宅建筑了。
Re: Capitalist India & Communist China.
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by Amit Bansal (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:13 AM So, what’’s the point here between the two....
所以呢？跟那两者有什么关系？？
after 15 years india became hell of the world
15年后印度就已经变成地狱了
by kalpesh shah (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:04 AM | Hide replies
thanks to our secular leaders and their policy..
and our techno savvy gen x...
感谢领导了我们这么长时间的政府吧以及他们的政策，
还有军事技术人员X（ 这个？？？有点不太会翻 ）
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by p sadfd (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:11 AM
I am just late by minutes to comment the same words...adding to it,
can these people even make one mega city in INDIA in next 20yrs...and
shouting like...what great job they r doing for the country & public...
看来我完了几秒呀~~你说了我也想说的话~再补充一句~
我怀疑这些人是否能在未来的20年中建成一座特大城市，并大声炫耀着~比如：啊~我们
为国家做了些多么了不起的事情呀~~
India will have 100 jumbo cities
印度会有100座大城市
by ganesh pillai (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:09 AM | Hide replies
Nobody can beat India when it comes to big cities. How clean and well maintained they are ?
Indian cities have good roads, good water, nice people, accident free (during traffic jams) etc.
yahoo
说道大城市，印度绝对无敌~~我们的城市是多么的干净和井井有条呀~~
印度城市有很好的道路，干净的水，热心的人，在交通堵塞的时候不不会有交通事故。~
嗯哼~~
补上链接：http://www.baidu.com/s?wd=%C3%C0%B9%FA%CD%F8%D3%D1%CC%B8%C2%DB%D6%D0%B9%FA&pn=20&tn=site888_pg
原文链接：http://news.rediff.com/
China’’s urban population is expected to swell up to a billion by 2025, and the country will have as many as 221 mega cities, 10 of them with over 10 million population each, leading consultancy McKinsey & Co says in its latest report.
大意先亮：2025年中国的城市人口将破10亿 （汗！~~怎么这么多呀~）， 全国将拥有221个特大城市，其中的十个城市人口将破百万~叉叉和叉叉在最近的报告中指出。
背景图片说我也要亮~（ 注意最右边~囧囧~可惜三哥们不知道它响亮的中文名字~）
不废话~帖子跟着亮~
and India is struggling to make another Metro.
印度要打造超级大都市
~by A P (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:23 AM ?
Hide repliesof this time in independence after the 4 metros just Bangalore and to some extent Hyderabad , Pune and Chandigarh are the only cities which could have been developed by India. What a shame!
捂脸逃走~印度独立这么多年~只有4座城市发展了~班加罗尔（科普：班加罗尔是印度南部著名的花园城市，以风光秀丽、气候宜人而出名。近年来，班加罗尔又以其计算机软件业闻名世界，被誉为亚洲的硅谷。）~海德巴拉（科普：印度第六大城市，安得拉邦的首府，位于印度中部。以其富饶的历史和建筑、清真教寺、庙宇而著名。它拥有丰富的艺术、手工艺和舞蹈的文化遗传。） ~普纳（科普：印度西部马哈拉施特拉邦经济、文化和交通中心，浦那专区和县的首府。人口市区约120万 ，包括郊区在内约169万。位于西高止山的内陆斜坡，海拔600米。）和佳德拉 （呃~这个科普已经不太好找了~大家见谅！ ），后三各城市勉强算是大城市吧。 （ 唉～～怎么说的这么可怜呀～～ ）
no wonder
不奇怪～
by RobinLongstride (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:24 AM ?| Hide replies
china is china, they have that thing in them to grow. Growth is faster than any of the Asian countries can even think of! they are coming out of their labour identity, they dont want to be tagged as cheap labour country anymore. they are well educated, branching into electronics and automobiles. India will still be 20 to 25 years behind china no matter what. The entire system has to change, this will when we have the right political leader..not as arrogant/hitler kinds as Jintao but atleast half like him, to streamline everything!!!
中国是中国，他们有自己的那一套。他们成长的这么快是任何亚洲国家没有想到的。他们的劳动力也变厉害了，甩掉了只有廉价劳力的标签。他们普及教育，深入电子和汽车产业。无论怎么说印度也和中国有２０至２５年的差距。我门国家的政体运作必须变革，我们需要好的政治领袖，不需要傲慢的希特勒，而需要一个锦涛 （请注意：原文就是Jintao~涛哥呀~你彻底亮了） ，哪怕有锦涛的一半也好呀，来治理国内的一切。
Re: no wonder
（回楼上）~~汗~三哥就爱长篇大论呀~
by Sanjay Durani (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:44
AM While analysing the gigantic growth of China which is surely growing by leaps and bounds,we have to keep in mind that there are still some areas in which they are lacking when compared to India like a democratic set-up, adherence to transparent and well agreed upon policies with consensus, an accountable political system, well disciplined armed forces working in tandem with the political leadership and of course giving refuge to the supressed people of its neighbouring countries (unlike china)who are exiled and banished from their lands by their own people or the govts. It is these qualities that has gained India respect the world over and it is because of this India is called a "GREAT" country and not because India has so and so weaponery and nuclear warheads. There are many problems also but they are bound to be there as we constitute a vast and diversified population. Having said that, the challenge and threat posed by china has opened up the opportunies and the healthy competition to India which is actually necessary to shake-up India’’s slow progress and complacent attitude. All the best to India......
在我们分析中国的巨幅增长的时候，虽然我们承认这种增长的强劲，但我们也要清醒的意识到他们还有很多地区（和印度这个民主国家比起来）缺少政治透明度，存在政治分歧，不具备负责任的政治体制，由于领导作风问题而军纪不够严明，对那些被邻国政府驱逐的受压迫的人们无法提供很好的庇护，而印度却不存在这类的问题。正是印度有这样好的特质让印度受到世界尊重并被称为伟大的国家，而不是因为印度有核武器和军事力量。中国有很多问题，但是中国注定了和我们一样是一个有多样化人口组合的庞大群体。对于中国来说，机会与危险并存，中国与印度的健康竞争有助于提高印度的增速和自满的态度。上帝保佑印度吧。（ 兄台，我服了你的大长句子和复杂的态度了~~~一句话占了一半篇幅呀~~翻译不对的求指教 ）
india is best
印度最NB
by anotherdumb indian (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:30 AM ?| Hide replies
AS LONG AS I HAVE MY 5000 YEAR OLD CULTURE I DONT MIND LIVING LIKE A GUTTER RAT
只要我们有5000年的古老文明，我不在意像地沟里的老鼠一样活着。（ 恭喜三哥贺喜三哥~~你们的确有5000年文明 ）
dedication required
明智的决定很重要。
by prasant nayak (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:32 AM ?|
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they want they design & develop themself & they do it.
他们想，他们计划，他们发展， 实 他们践。
Dsfd
（谁知道这是毛意思？缩写么？？）
by Arun Premraj (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:39 AM ?| Hide replies
we will have many mega urban slums by 2025
他们2025年会有大量的城市特级贫民窟才对。
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by Jamali (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:50 AM
These industrious Chinese and Pakistanis have made development of their countries as their religion and unless we wake up, I am afraid brother, we will be left even further behind because the gap between us and these countries continues to grow wider with each passing day.
由于人们的信仰（ 中国的信仰？？？难道只佛教？？）， 工业化的中国和巴基斯坦已经取得了巨大的发展。印度啊~~醒醒吧快，我想说，我们之间的差距将越来越大，这两个国家每天都在进步。
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by jaapaal maatre (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:59 AM lolz, jamali,
哇哈哈~~Jamali(楼上兄台)你太搞了吧~
i do agree abt industrious chinese, but you should discuss abt industriousness of pakistanis on paki forums not here. we know all abt you and your paki brothers.
我同意中国的工业化成就，但你要说到巴基斯坦的工业化成就的话，请移步巴基斯坦论坛，别再这儿扯了。我们都知道你和你那些巴基斯坦兄弟是属于哪个国家的。
Idiot rediff
白痴网站（ 冲网站来的？ ？） by Juni (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:48 AM ?| Hide replies
They dont even know the meaning of Megacity.Megacity is a city with population more than 10 million."by 2025, and the country will have as many as 221 mega cities, 10 of them with over 10 million population each"That means by 2025 China will have 10 Megacities and not 200. Here 200 are for cities over 1 million population.
得了吧您呐~~~先搞搞清楚什么叫特大城市吧。
特大城市是指人口超过1000万的城市
你文章里自己都说了2025年中国有221个特大城市，超1000万的只有10个~，之就是说他们只有10个能叫做特大城市。你说的200个仅仅是指人口超过100万的罢了~切~
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by shubasrikrishna (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 01:01 PM They meant mega cities in terms of infrastructure and not population.Yes we will surely top if Mega cities were calculated in terms of population.
他们说特大城市不是指人口好不好，指的是城市基础建设。
哦对了~如果城市级别是按人口来算的话我们毫无疑问会是最棒的。 （赶紧的吧～～计划生育呀）
@ ppl giving gyan on Indians are far behind Chinese
（不全看懂～大概就是对那些说印度比中国落后太多的人说些话）
by Debashree Chatterjee (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:57 AM ?| Hide replies
every country and economy has its own course of growth,.. India is one of the fastest growing country in the world!!I am definitely proud of that! If yu think lot of things are missing! why don’’t you come forward and do something for the country apart from blabbering nonsense onIndia! and a small thing... In China I doubt you have this amount of liberty to post your liberal cinical comments about the own country!! they dont have FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION if you don’’t know.... Evrything looks beautiful from far.... do something to make your country proud of you.. what about that??
每个国家和经济体有自己的成长方式。印度是世界上增速最快的经济体之一。我很骄傲。如果你觉得这不好那不好的，那你上台来干点事事儿，别只在那里扯印度的闲篇儿。反而，在中国，我怀疑能否看到这么多可以自由的发表反对自己国家的评论。这是为什么呢？他们没有言论自由呀没有言论自由呀（ 小羊我这里也激动了 ）。远看一切都是美好的～做些让国家因你而自豪的事实儿吧。可做的事儿有很多。
Re: @ ppl giving gyan on Indians are far behind chinese
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by Argumentative Indian (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:45 AM
The Chinese I met in Chinae are not at all upset about their lack of political freedom. In fact they seemed very happy with their lives, infrastructure & government. In Shanghai they told me that as recently as 20 years ago, it was a semi - urban dump & they are absolutely proud of the progress China has made, and seeing the landmarks of Shanghai, I couldn’’t fault them. They have complete economic, religious (I could not note any outward signs like a black robe covering from head to toe, or turbans or large Tilaks, though) and commercial - cultural freedom.
我在中国遇到的中国人并不都对没有政治方面的自由赶到不安。
事实上，他们生活的很开心，对城市基础设施和政府感到满意。再上海，那的人告诉我，在20年前，上海就是个半个城市半个垃圾堆，他们国家的进步和今天的成就感到骄傲。在我看到了上海的标志性建筑后，我相信他们说的话。他们有完整的经济体质，宗教（虽然我没有看到任何人穿着从头到脚的黑长袍或带着伊斯兰大头巾）和商业文化自由。
An American colleague posted in China told me, that at a recent poll in our company’’s China office, the employees voted politics as the most respected profession! The Chinese genuinely love and respect their politicians and their polic officers, I’’m told a Chinese police officer earns $ 10,000 p.a. in a city like Shanghai!
一个美国同事参与了一次在中国的的投票，他告诉我，在一次公司内负责中国区域的投票中，所有员工有很尊重正果的政体。中国人民爱戴他们的政治领袖。我被告知一个中国警察在上海这样的城市一年赚10000美元。（ 不要怀疑~~最后一句话我翻译的没问题 ~）
The ONLY lack of freedom I found was, when my Indian colleague, warned me not to cross the road in the middle away from the traffic sign, as it is against the law and when he had tried it last time he visited China, a police car appeared out of nowhere and took him off to the police station! He was finally rescued by our local China office people, but after all formalities!
我感受到唯一一点不自由的是，我的同时曾提醒我不要违反交规。（因为这违反法律而且上次该同事已经亲自体验了一把，结果背警车弄到一边还带劲了局子）。在走完了所有正式手续后，该同事背本地的中国同事带了出来。
BTW, the average Chinese engineer, doctor, technician, nurse, cobbler, sweeper etc. etc. does NOT do any nation building, they only do their own work.
顺便说一句，一般中国工程师~艺声~技术人员~护士~鞋匠~清洁工~等等都不操心国家建设~~他们只负责做好自己的本职工作。
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by Hari Narasimhan (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 11:58 AM While I do agree with your views, your examples only address people in cities and Americans working in China.China is following the principle of "selective development", in that all development is limited to only a few areas and not the country as a whole. People living in rural areas in China do not have access to any of the basic human rights. The dictatorship decides who should live a good lifestyle and who should not. There is no way anyone can protest against this discriminatory development since villagers are at the mercy of the dictatorship.
我顶你·，你的例子只说明了城市居民和在中国工作的美国人的观点。中国一直奉行选择性发展，这是因为这些发展之局限在个别地区而不是全中国。农村人民没有享受到基本的权利。领导人决定了谁生活的好谁生活的不好。没有人能反对这种畸形的发展，因为农村人门只能听政府摆布。
There was an article in a kannada magazine on how the Beijing olympics were conducted.It highlights the flip side very well and mind you, this article was not written by an American or a westerner but by a kannadiga Indian journalist who visited China.Millions of poor people were affected by this but none of it came out and nobody dared to protest since they were afraid that they would be massacred.Villagers were not even allowed to see the Olympics that their own country was hosting. Even otherwise villagers are not allowed into major developed areas like Shanghai, Shenzen etc.People may argue that they won many medals, but at what cost? Poor children are not treated as human beings but merely as medal factories. Their parents are so poor and at the mercy of the dictatorship that they dare not protest
我看过一篇加拿大杂志上写的北京奥运会是如何操作的。作者强调了许多人们忽视的小的方面，我必须要提醒你，这篇文章不是美国或西方的人写的，而是一位曾到过中国的加拿大籍印度记着。为了奥运会，数以万计的穷苦人民深受其害，但是没有人站出来，没有人感反对，因为他们害怕被杀害。（ 我靠~有没有那么夸张啊 ~）。农村人甚至不被允许观看他们自己国家举办的比赛。甚至这些人不被允许进入上海深圳这样的大城市。人们会说虽然我们赢了那么多金牌，但是又有何用？可怜的从穷人家出来当运动员的孩子根本不被当看成人，只是制造金牌的机器。因为他们的父母太穷了~孩子只好听凭政府摆布~不敢发表任何怨言。
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Chinese
（ 这一帖长的要死了~~~这位还没说完呢 ）
by Hari Narasimhan (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 11:59 AM continued from above...It is like calling a man a millionaire just because he has hosted a lavish party after starving one out of three of his children.I am only trying to put things straight. Any comments/questions are welcome
我继续我的话（ 您少说点吧~~~看的爽了~~译得哭了 ~）
就想一个人被别人看作百万富翁是因为他为了举办一场奢华的宴会而饿死了他三分之一的孩子。
我只是有话直说，欢迎拍砖。（ 总算完了 ）
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by kalpesh shah (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:07 AM
this country is den of dead soul..they forget anddigest any thing.....curruption running in veins...every thing is artificial be it medicine or edible item..
这个国家就是个贼窝，他们忘记并消耗任何东西
他们从骨子里就腐朽不堪
一切的一切都是伪造的~~从医药到实物~~
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by Sunil Swain (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:56 AM
coming to adulteration.. India beats china in tat.. You think like that abt china but when you come to indian shops you’’ll see more adulteration..
说道假货，中国完败印度了，你这样想中国，但当你到了印度商店你会看到更多的假货。
Capitalist India & Communist China.
资本主义印度和共产主义中国。
by Suresh Babu (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:57 AM ?| Hide replies
Mukesh Ambani had a house at Mumbai costing around Rs. 4500 crores and this is largest residential building in the world
穆凯什?阿姆巴尼（科普：印度最大民营企业信诚工业集团(Reliance Industries)的董事长，,印度的新首富。）在孟买的房子价值4500卢比（6300RMB），这是世界上最大的民宅建筑了。
Re: Capitalist India & Communist China.
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by Amit Bansal (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:13 AM So, what’’s the point here between the two....
所以呢？跟那两者有什么关系？？
after 15 years india became hell of the world
15年后印度就已经变成地狱了
by kalpesh shah (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:04 AM | Hide replies
thanks to our secular leaders and their policy..
and our techno savvy gen x...
感谢领导了我们这么长时间的政府吧以及他们的政策，
还有军事技术人员X（ 这个？？？有点不太会翻 ）
Re: after 15 years india became hell of the world
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by p sadfd (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:11 AM
I am just late by minutes to comment the same words...adding to it,
can these people even make one mega city in INDIA in next 20yrs...and
shouting like...what great job they r doing for the country & public...
看来我完了几秒呀~~你说了我也想说的话~再补充一句~
我怀疑这些人是否能在未来的20年中建成一座特大城市，并大声炫耀着~比如：啊~我们
为国家做了些多么了不起的事情呀~~
India will have 100 jumbo cities
印度会有100座大城市
by ganesh pillai (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:09 AM | Hide replies
Nobody can beat India when it comes to big cities. How clean and well maintained they are ?
Indian cities have good roads, good water, nice people, accident free (during traffic jams) etc.
yahoo
说道大城市，印度绝对无敌~~我们的城市是多么的干净和井井有条呀~~
印度城市有很好的道路，干净的水，热心的人，在交通堵塞的时候不不会有交通事故。~
嗯哼~~
补上链接：http://www.baidu.com/s?wd=%C3%C0%B9%FA%CD%F8%D3%D1%CC%B8%C2%DB%D6%D0%B9%FA&pn=20&tn=site888_pg三哥都长篇大论~15年后中国将有200做特大城市
原文链接：http://news.rediff.com/
China’’s urban population is expected to swell up to a billion by 2025, and the country will have as many as 221 mega cities, 10 of them with over 10 million population each, leading consultancy McKinsey & Co says in its latest report.
大意先亮：2025年中国的城市人口将破10亿 （汗！~~怎么这么多呀~）， 全国将拥有221个特大城市，其中的十个城市人口将破百万~叉叉和叉叉在最近的报告中指出。
背景图片说我也要亮~（ 注意最右边~囧囧~可惜三哥们不知道它响亮的中文名字~）
不废话~帖子跟着亮~
and India is struggling to make another Metro.
印度要打造超级大都市
~by A P (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:23 AM ?
Hide repliesof this time in independence after the 4 metros just Bangalore and to some extent Hyderabad , Pune and Chandigarh are the only cities which could have been developed by India. What a shame!
捂脸逃走~印度独立这么多年~只有4座城市发展了~班加罗尔（科普：班加罗尔是印度南部著名的花园城市，以风光秀丽、气候宜人而出名。近年来，班加罗尔又以其计算机软件业闻名世界，被誉为亚洲的硅谷。）~海德巴拉（科普：印度第六大城市，安得拉邦的首府，位于印度中部。以其富饶的历史和建筑、清真教寺、庙宇而著名。它拥有丰富的艺术、手工艺和舞蹈的文化遗传。） ~普纳（科普：印度西部马哈拉施特拉邦经济、文化和交通中心，浦那专区和县的首府。人口市区约120万 ，包括郊区在内约169万。位于西高止山的内陆斜坡，海拔600米。）和佳德拉 （呃~这个科普已经不太好找了~大家见谅！ ），后三各城市勉强算是大城市吧。 （ 唉～～怎么说的这么可怜呀～～ ）
no wonder
不奇怪～
by RobinLongstride (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:24 AM ?| Hide replies
china is china, they have that thing in them to grow. Growth is faster than any of the Asian countries can even think of! they are coming out of their labour identity, they dont want to be tagged as cheap labour country anymore. they are well educated, branching into electronics and automobiles. India will still be 20 to 25 years behind china no matter what. The entire system has to change, this will when we have the right political leader..not as arrogant/hitler kinds as Jintao but atleast half like him, to streamline everything!!!
中国是中国，他们有自己的那一套。他们成长的这么快是任何亚洲国家没有想到的。他们的劳动力也变厉害了，甩掉了只有廉价劳力的标签。他们普及教育，深入电子和汽车产业。无论怎么说印度也和中国有２０至２５年的差距。我门国家的政体运作必须变革，我们需要好的政治领袖，不需要傲慢的希特勒，而需要一个锦涛 （请注意：原文就是Jintao~涛哥呀~你彻底亮了） ，哪怕有锦涛的一半也好呀，来治理国内的一切。
Re: no wonder
（回楼上）~~汗~三哥就爱长篇大论呀~
by Sanjay Durani (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:44
AM While analysing the gigantic growth of China which is surely growing by leaps and bounds,we have to keep in mind that there are still some areas in which they are lacking when compared to India like a democratic set-up, adherence to transparent and well agreed upon policies with consensus, an accountable political system, well disciplined armed forces working in tandem with the political leadership and of course giving refuge to the supressed people of its neighbouring countries (unlike china)who are exiled and banished from their lands by their own people or the govts. It is these qualities that has gained India respect the world over and it is because of this India is called a "GREAT" country and not because India has so and so weaponery and nuclear warheads. There are many problems also but they are bound to be there as we constitute a vast and diversified population. Having said that, the challenge and threat posed by china has opened up the opportunies and the healthy competition to India which is actually necessary to shake-up India’’s slow progress and complacent attitude. All the best to India......
在我们分析中国的巨幅增长的时候，虽然我们承认这种增长的强劲，但我们也要清醒的意识到他们还有很多地区（和印度这个民主国家比起来）缺少政治透明度，存在政治分歧，不具备负责任的政治体制，由于领导作风问题而军纪不够严明，对那些被邻国政府驱逐的受压迫的人们无法提供很好的庇护，而印度却不存在这类的问题。正是印度有这样好的特质让印度受到世界尊重并被称为伟大的国家，而不是因为印度有核武器和军事力量。中国有很多问题，但是中国注定了和我们一样是一个有多样化人口组合的庞大群体。对于中国来说，机会与危险并存，中国与印度的健康竞争有助于提高印度的增速和自满的态度。上帝保佑印度吧。（ 兄台，我服了你的大长句子和复杂的态度了~~~一句话占了一半篇幅呀~~翻译不对的求指教 ）
india is best
印度最NB
by anotherdumb indian (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:30 AM ?| Hide replies
AS LONG AS I HAVE MY 5000 YEAR OLD CULTURE I DONT MIND LIVING LIKE A GUTTER RAT
只要我们有5000年的古老文明，我不在意像地沟里的老鼠一样活着。（ 恭喜三哥贺喜三哥~~你们的确有5000年文明 ）
dedication required
明智的决定很重要。
by prasant nayak (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:32 AM ?|
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they want they design & develop themself & they do it.
他们想，他们计划，他们发展， 实 他们践。
Dsfd
（谁知道这是毛意思？缩写么？？）
by Arun Premraj (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:39 AM ?| Hide replies
we will have many mega urban slums by 2025
他们2025年会有大量的城市特级贫民窟才对。
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by Jamali (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:50 AM
These industrious Chinese and Pakistanis have made development of their countries as their religion and unless we wake up, I am afraid brother, we will be left even further behind because the gap between us and these countries continues to grow wider with each passing day.
由于人们的信仰（ 中国的信仰？？？难道只佛教？？）， 工业化的中国和巴基斯坦已经取得了巨大的发展。印度啊~~醒醒吧快，我想说，我们之间的差距将越来越大，这两个国家每天都在进步。
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by jaapaal maatre (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:59 AM lolz, jamali,
哇哈哈~~Jamali(楼上兄台)你太搞了吧~
i do agree abt industrious chinese, but you should discuss abt industriousness of pakistanis on paki forums not here. we know all abt you and your paki brothers.
我同意中国的工业化成就，但你要说到巴基斯坦的工业化成就的话，请移步巴基斯坦论坛，别再这儿扯了。我们都知道你和你那些巴基斯坦兄弟是属于哪个国家的。
Idiot rediff
白痴网站（ 冲网站来的？ ？） by Juni (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:48 AM ?| Hide replies
They dont even know the meaning of Megacity.Megacity is a city with population more than 10 million."by 2025, and the country will have as many as 221 mega cities, 10 of them with over 10 million population each"That means by 2025 China will have 10 Megacities and not 200. Here 200 are for cities over 1 million population.
得了吧您呐~~~先搞搞清楚什么叫特大城市吧。
特大城市是指人口超过1000万的城市
你文章里自己都说了2025年中国有221个特大城市，超1000万的只有10个~，之就是说他们只有10个能叫做特大城市。你说的200个仅仅是指人口超过100万的罢了~切~
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by shubasrikrishna (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 01:01 PM They meant mega cities in terms of infrastructure and not population.Yes we will surely top if Mega cities were calculated in terms of population.
他们说特大城市不是指人口好不好，指的是城市基础建设。
哦对了~如果城市级别是按人口来算的话我们毫无疑问会是最棒的。 （赶紧的吧～～计划生育呀）
@ ppl giving gyan on Indians are far behind Chinese
（不全看懂～大概就是对那些说印度比中国落后太多的人说些话）
by Debashree Chatterjee (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:57 AM ?| Hide replies
every country and economy has its own course of growth,.. India is one of the fastest growing country in the world!!I am definitely proud of that! If yu think lot of things are missing! why don’’t you come forward and do something for the country apart from blabbering nonsense onIndia! and a small thing... In China I doubt you have this amount of liberty to post your liberal cinical comments about the own country!! they dont have FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION if you don’’t know.... Evrything looks beautiful from far.... do something to make your country proud of you.. what about that??
每个国家和经济体有自己的成长方式。印度是世界上增速最快的经济体之一。我很骄傲。如果你觉得这不好那不好的，那你上台来干点事事儿，别只在那里扯印度的闲篇儿。反而，在中国，我怀疑能否看到这么多可以自由的发表反对自己国家的评论。这是为什么呢？他们没有言论自由呀没有言论自由呀（ 小羊我这里也激动了 ）。远看一切都是美好的～做些让国家因你而自豪的事实儿吧。可做的事儿有很多。
Re: @ ppl giving gyan on Indians are far behind chinese
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by Argumentative Indian (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:45 AM
The Chinese I met in Chinae are not at all upset about their lack of political freedom. In fact they seemed very happy with their lives, infrastructure & government. In Shanghai they told me that as recently as 20 years ago, it was a semi - urban dump & they are absolutely proud of the progress China has made, and seeing the landmarks of Shanghai, I couldn’’t fault them. They have complete economic, religious (I could not note any outward signs like a black robe covering from head to toe, or turbans or large Tilaks, though) and commercial - cultural freedom.
我在中国遇到的中国人并不都对没有政治方面的自由赶到不安。
事实上，他们生活的很开心，对城市基础设施和政府感到满意。再上海，那的人告诉我，在20年前，上海就是个半个城市半个垃圾堆，他们国家的进步和今天的成就感到骄傲。在我看到了上海的标志性建筑后，我相信他们说的话。他们有完整的经济体质，宗教（虽然我没有看到任何人穿着从头到脚的黑长袍或带着伊斯兰大头巾）和商业文化自由。
An American colleague posted in China told me, that at a recent poll in our company’’s China office, the employees voted politics as the most respected profession! The Chinese genuinely love and respect their politicians and their polic officers, I’’m told a Chinese police officer earns $ 10,000 p.a. in a city like Shanghai!
一个美国同事参与了一次在中国的的投票，他告诉我，在一次公司内负责中国区域的投票中，所有员工有很尊重正果的政体。中国人民爱戴他们的政治领袖。我被告知一个中国警察在上海这样的城市一年赚10000美元。（ 不要怀疑~~最后一句话我翻译的没问题 ~）
The ONLY lack of freedom I found was, when my Indian colleague, warned me not to cross the road in the middle away from the traffic sign, as it is against the law and when he had tried it last time he visited China, a police car appeared out of nowhere and took him off to the police station! He was finally rescued by our local China office people, but after all formalities!
我感受到唯一一点不自由的是，我的同时曾提醒我不要违反交规。（因为这违反法律而且上次该同事已经亲自体验了一把，结果背警车弄到一边还带劲了局子）。在走完了所有正式手续后，该同事背本地的中国同事带了出来。
BTW, the average Chinese engineer, doctor, technician, nurse, cobbler, sweeper etc. etc. does NOT do any nation building, they only do their own work.
顺便说一句，一般中国工程师~艺声~技术人员~护士~鞋匠~清洁工~等等都不操心国家建设~~他们只负责做好自己的本职工作。
Re: Re: @ ppl giving gyan on Indians are far behind Chinese
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by Hari Narasimhan (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 11:58 AM While I do agree with your views, your examples only address people in cities and Americans working in China.China is following the principle of "selective development", in that all development is limited to only a few areas and not the country as a whole. People living in rural areas in China do not have access to any of the basic human rights. The dictatorship decides who should live a good lifestyle and who should not. There is no way anyone can protest against this discriminatory development since villagers are at the mercy of the dictatorship.
我顶你·，你的例子只说明了城市居民和在中国工作的美国人的观点。中国一直奉行选择性发展，这是因为这些发展之局限在个别地区而不是全中国。农村人民没有享受到基本的权利。领导人决定了谁生活的好谁生活的不好。没有人能反对这种畸形的发展，因为农村人门只能听政府摆布。
There was an article in a kannada magazine on how the Beijing olympics were conducted.It highlights the flip side very well and mind you, this article was not written by an American or a westerner but by a kannadiga Indian journalist who visited China.Millions of poor people were affected by this but none of it came out and nobody dared to protest since they were afraid that they would be massacred.Villagers were not even allowed to see the Olympics that their own country was hosting. Even otherwise villagers are not allowed into major developed areas like Shanghai, Shenzen etc.People may argue that they won many medals, but at what cost? Poor children are not treated as human beings but merely as medal factories. Their parents are so poor and at the mercy of the dictatorship that they dare not protest
我看过一篇加拿大杂志上写的北京奥运会是如何操作的。作者强调了许多人们忽视的小的方面，我必须要提醒你，这篇文章不是美国或西方的人写的，而是一位曾到过中国的加拿大籍印度记着。为了奥运会，数以万计的穷苦人民深受其害，但是没有人站出来，没有人感反对，因为他们害怕被杀害。（ 我靠~有没有那么夸张啊 ~）。农村人甚至不被允许观看他们自己国家举办的比赛。甚至这些人不被允许进入上海深圳这样的大城市。人们会说虽然我们赢了那么多金牌，但是又有何用？可怜的从穷人家出来当运动员的孩子根本不被当看成人，只是制造金牌的机器。因为他们的父母太穷了~孩子只好听凭政府摆布~不敢发表任何怨言。
Re: Re: Re: @ ppl giving gyan on Indians are far behind
Chinese
（ 这一帖长的要死了~~~这位还没说完呢 ）
by Hari Narasimhan (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 11:59 AM continued from above...It is like calling a man a millionaire just because he has hosted a lavish party after starving one out of three of his children.I am only trying to put things straight. Any comments/questions are welcome
我继续我的话（ 您少说点吧~~~看的爽了~~译得哭了 ~）
就想一个人被别人看作百万富翁是因为他为了举办一场奢华的宴会而饿死了他三分之一的孩子。
我只是有话直说，欢迎拍砖。（ 总算完了 ）
Re: @ ppl giving gyan on Indians are far behind Chinese
（回第一个人）
by kalpesh shah (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:07 AM
this country is den of dead soul..they forget anddigest any thing.....curruption running in veins...every thing is artificial be it medicine or edible item..
这个国家就是个贼窝，他们忘记并消耗任何东西
他们从骨子里就腐朽不堪
一切的一切都是伪造的~~从医药到实物~~
Re: Re: @ ppl giving gyan on Indians are far behind Chinese
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by Sunil Swain (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:56 AM
coming to adulteration.. India beats china in tat.. You think like that abt china but when you come to indian shops you’’ll see more adulteration..
说道假货，中国完败印度了，你这样想中国，但当你到了印度商店你会看到更多的假货。
Capitalist India & Communist China.
资本主义印度和共产主义中国。
by Suresh Babu (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 09:57 AM ?| Hide replies
Mukesh Ambani had a house at Mumbai costing around Rs. 4500 crores and this is largest residential building in the world
穆凯什?阿姆巴尼（科普：印度最大民营企业信诚工业集团(Reliance Industries)的董事长，,印度的新首富。）在孟买的房子价值4500卢比（6300RMB），这是世界上最大的民宅建筑了。
Re: Capitalist India & Communist China.
(回上面)
by Amit Bansal (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:13 AM So, what’’s the point here between the two....
所以呢？跟那两者有什么关系？？
after 15 years india became hell of the world
15年后印度就已经变成地狱了
by kalpesh shah (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:04 AM | Hide replies
thanks to our secular leaders and their policy..
and our techno savvy gen x...
感谢领导了我们这么长时间的政府吧以及他们的政策，
还有军事技术人员X（ 这个？？？有点不太会翻 ）
Re: after 15 years india became hell of the world
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by p sadfd (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:11 AM
I am just late by minutes to comment the same words...adding to it,
can these people even make one mega city in INDIA in next 20yrs...and
shouting like...what great job they r doing for the country & public...
看来我完了几秒呀~~你说了我也想说的话~再补充一句~
我怀疑这些人是否能在未来的20年中建成一座特大城市，并大声炫耀着~比如：啊~我们
为国家做了些多么了不起的事情呀~~
India will have 100 jumbo cities
印度会有100座大城市
by ganesh pillai (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:09 AM | Hide replies
Nobody can beat India when it comes to big cities. How clean and well maintained they are ?
Indian cities have good roads, good water, nice people, accident free (during traffic jams) etc.
yahoo
说道大城市，印度绝对无敌~~我们的城市是多么的干净和井井有条呀~~
印度城市有很好的道路，干净的水，热心的人，在交通堵塞的时候不不会有交通事故。~
嗯哼~~
补上链接：http://www.baidu.com/s?wd=%C3%C0%B9%FA%CD%F8%D3%D1%CC%B8%C2%DB%D6%D0%B9%FA&pn=20&tn=site888_pg
说道大城市，印度绝对无敌~~我们的城市是多么的干净和井井有条呀~~
印度城市有很好的道路，干净的水，热心的人，在交通堵塞的时候不不会有交通事故。~
嗯哼~~
看到这我笑了。。。。好羡慕那纯净的水。。。。。。。。。。。。
印度城市有很好的道路，干净的水，热心的人，在交通堵塞的时候不不会有交通事故。~
嗯哼~~
看到这我笑了。。。。好羡慕那纯净的水。。。。。。。。。。。。
续：
中国只重视局部
by kalpesh shah (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:11 AM | Hide replies
reservation..religion...
tell me who is secular shahi imam or the man who
beaten by imam’’s bodygaurd
对于宗教我持保留意见
请告诉我谁是上海地区伊斯兰教教长或者谁是被教长保安驱赶的人？
（ 这句我能力有限了~shahi是个啥？~按我得理解大概就是中国不存在和宗教沾边儿的东东~）
india will have 200 mega-slums by nex 15 years
15年后印度才会有200个特大贫民窟吧~~
by sagar (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:24 AM | Hide replies india will have 200 mega-slums by nex 15 years. first see and try to imporve/show by
improving the conditon of financial capital and other cities scuh as living standard,
slum, roads, garden, shcools, colleges, lakes,m trees etc and then think of building
200 mega cities. why indian politicians want to convert mumbai into shanghai why china
does not wnat to convert Beijing into Delhi or Mumbai.
15年后印度会有200个大垃圾场。先把我们的金融首府和其他一些城市的硬件提高点好不好呀~比如
生活标准，贫民窟，道路建设，城市花园，学校，大学，湖和（某种）树等等。之后再考虑建设200个
特大城市吧~。为毛印度的政治家总想让孟买变成上海呢？为毛中国人不想让北京变成德里或孟买呢？
All cities were developed before independence in India!!!!!!!!
印度没独立前的城市反而不断发展~（ 老兄你很猛么~）
by India (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:33 AM | Hide replies
Why no good cities developed after independence
This shows how useless Indian politicians are..
british were far better...they may have exploited Indians but built many
infrastructurelike
Railwys
Roads
Judiciary etc
Our present rules are far worse and biggest cheats
为什么独立后没有城市发展了呢？
这说明了印度的政府是多么的无能呀~
英国人则好得多，尽管他们侵略了印度但是建立了很多基础设施像铁路呀~公路呀~司法呀~等等~
我们现在的法规差的太远了~~根本是来糊弄我们的~
INDIANS ARE SELFISH
印度人太自私了啊~
by vivek srivastava (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:59 AM | Hide replies
The basic problem with India is that Indians are very selfish. We are bothered
only about our own interests and that of our families. This is the reason why
Indians are unable to follow simple social rules like standing in queue,
driving in the correct lane etc. Indians are less socially responsible than
developed countries. This culture reflects in the attitude of our politicians
too.Its of no use blaming politicians because they originate in Indian society.
Their only aim is to amass wealth sufficient for many generations. This is
because of the uncertainty in politics. Politicians have no long-term vision
for the country and hence compromise on any issue provided their ’’interests’’
are satisfied.Indian citizens also have a large role to play because they elect
a politician based on caste, creed, religion etc. This is done with the selfish
hope that when he comes to power he would do some favour for them. Now if the
elected politician has to do some favour for that particular person he has to
overlook another meritorious Indian. This sets a bad precedent and affects every
sphere of governance. Unless the common man realizes this and votes for
meritorious candidates, India can only dream about competing with China.
印度最根本的问题就是印度人的自私。我们从来只关心自己的利益和自己的家庭。这就是为什么印
度人连最基本的像排队，在规定的道路行车这样的社会规则都不能遵守。印度人比发达国家的更缺乏
社会责任感。这样的垃圾文化甚至影响到了我们的政治家们。所以一味的责怪政治家们是没有用的，
因为他们就诞生在印度这样一个社会中。他们的唯一目标就是世代享受荣华富贵，这是由于印度政坛
的不稳定。政治家们根本没有长远眼光，会向一切能满足他们自身利益的决策妥协。印度的居民们也
有不可推卸的责任，因为他们只根据种族姓氏，教义和宗教等等来投票。他们的出发点是自私的，因
为他们选择的人上台后会带给他们利益。现在看来，如果被选出来的政治家只有利于个别人，那那些
有利于印度整体的其他竞选者必然被忽略。这样坏的先例会影响到各方面的治理形成恶性循环。除非
现在的大众意识到这点并投票给那些对印度整体有利的参选者，否则印度想和中国竞争只能是做梦。
（~呼~~~）
Re: INDIANS ARE SELFISH
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by kuldip nair (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 11:06 AM
Very True but then i dont see that changing :(
I hope no one report abuse your post
顶个，而且到现在我并没有发现有任何改变（三哥表情小哭脸）
我希望没有人反对你上面所说的话。
Re: INDIANS ARE SELFISH
回第一个人
by KKunal Ghogrre (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 12:08 PM
Vivek: Very good and mature analysis
分析得很好，很理性。
Re: INDIANS ARE SELFISH
回第一个人（ omg~泪奔着滚去码字 ）
by new mumbai (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 11:49 AM
India would have being better if the Congress or Nehru would
not have ruled India after independence. That was a ugly point
for India. I don’’t think India would have being such as we have
now before independence. See other British colonies which are
far more developed and well cultured. No discipline was ever
levied on Indian by the government ever and today we see its
Consequence. Thre is no discipline among people for standing in
queues or driving in correct lanes. what do u expect from people
who drive auto and taxis these people were not able to receive
any good education and therefore they took up the profession of
driving auto & taxis. The police is corrupt, each & every department
in government is corrupt and this tradition began soon after
independence. There was no proper five years planning and implementation.
The bridges that were built in USA or other developed countries in
18th centuries are not built in India today. People are living lives of
cat & dogs here with no social security, no infrastucture, no good
government policies nothing that v can b proud of. sometimes i feel
guilty of giving birth to child and make the child like living in hell.
the development is so slow that by the time anything is developed the
population is grown so much that thing looks insufficient. I know politicans
r from our society but if the education level has not rised so nor will the
mentality of politicans grow.
如果在印度独立后国会和尼赫鲁没有改变印度的法规印度现在会变得更好。多么悲剧呀~（小羊
给您上茶几）我认为独立后印度并没有变得比之前更好。可以看出其他的英国殖民地比我们发
达多了，文化也发展了。政府从没有在我们身上强加税然而今天我们看到了这样做的结果。
没有规则规定人们应该排队并且应该在争取的道路上行车（哇塞~不是吧~~~擎天一声雷啊）。
别对这些人抱任何指望。他们没有接受良好的教育，然后他们选择了开车或开出租的职业。
警察早都腐败了~每一个政府部门都腐败了·~这样的“光荣”传统从独立后不久就开始了。
我们没有合理的五年计划（ 说的是中国的那个么？？ ）和没有任何实践。悲呀~~就连美国和
其他发达国家18世纪建的桥我们印度到今天还看不见影儿呢。人们相貌狗一样的活着，得不
到任何安全保障，（ 呜呼哀哉~在这里请允许小羊我留下一滴鳄鱼的眼泪吧~ ），没有完善的基
础设施，跟别提神马好的政策了，我们没有任何值得骄傲的东西。有时我感到生孩子并让他活在
这样的地狱里是一种罪恶。我们的发展如此之慢，就算我一切已经发展起来的时候巨大的人口也
会让一切变得紧缺。我知道我们的政府同样出自这个社会，但如果教育水平不能提高，我们领导人
的智慧也不会有所提高。
Yes we can also!
中国能做的咱也能呀~
by common man (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 11:09 AM | Hide replies
India also a developing county friends. Don’’t feel ashame.Don’’t feel
negative. Think about our previous socialist era. Actually we wasted
40 years after independence. At this rate of growth 2025 India will
become the same standard of present china.(But we have to dump the
Masjid/Mandir issue into the drain pit at least in 2025). If somebody
is performing more than us why feel jealousy? Why everybody blaming
politicians for everything? Ok corruption is there. Corruption is there
in china also.Corruption is there in all countries. But compared to
socialist era things are far better now. Then why complaint again & Again?
Our future will be the best .
印度也是发展中国家的伙伴呀。不要觉得羞愧，不要悲观。想想我们过去的社会主义时代吧，
我们浪费了独立之后40年的宝贵时光。如果抱着现在的增长率在2025年的时候印度会达到现
在中国的水平。（前提是我们必需在2025年前抛弃QZS或印度教寺庙的那些争议）。如果
有其他人（指中国）比我们做得好我们何必要嫉妒人家呢？为什么所有人都满员政治家呢？
好吧，我承认确实有腐败存在，可是每个国家都有腐败的问题呀。再说比起以前社会主义的
世代现在一切已经变得好多了。难道我们还要继续抱怨抱怨抱怨么？我们的未来会一片大好的。
Re: Yes we can also!
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by Proud Indian (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 12:00 PM
Forget it!!! We cannot. Not because of politicians...Its because of our own
attitude. No national pride(except for India-Pakistan games), "abuse public
property" attitude, lack of awarness in infrastructure usage(including ppl
who are literate), poor standard of life and very very low quality thinking.
These are few of many reasons...why we cannot.
老兄您歇了吧！！我们不能。并不是因为我们的政治家们，而是源于我们自己的态度。缺乏国
家的自豪感（除了在印巴博弈中），滥用公共财产的社会态度，缺乏实用基础设施的意识（包括
你上文中提到的那些人），底下的生活水平和低层次的思考方式。哦哦~~我提到的只是很小的
几点罢了。。。这就是为什么我们不能。（ 唉~小羊再次滴下鳄鱼的眼泪 ）
Re: Yes we can also!
回第一个
iby chirag kenia (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 12:11 PM
I like the way you think. Somewhere, even I feel being slow and no-where will
help us n long run. It’’s the people who make and break a country, not the
leaders :)
我喜欢你分析问题的方式。某些方面，连我也觉得我们很落后并且没有什么有助于长远发展
的东西。就是这些人建立并毁了我们的国家，而并不是那些领导者。（三哥笑脸）
200 Mega Budget Movies in India by next 20 years
今后的20年印度有200部大电影的预算
by Nancy Singh (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 12:33 PM | Hide replies
I think Indian Film Industry will produce 200 Mega Budget Movies by next 20 years.
Also few Big Scams like Satyam,3G,CWG,Verdict Issues,Terrorists Attacks...etc..
This seems to be lined up for the next few years..
Only fake promises before elections.
Aadmi will get Aam but no Kaam.
All the electronics wastes been dumped here.
I don’’t think we had an efficient leader who could rule this country.
我觉得在电影产业上，印度会在20年内投入200部大电影的财政预算。
那些骗钱的招数像Satyam技术，3G技术，CWG技术，判决事物，还有恐怖袭击等等会在将来更少出现。
这些在今后的几年中会逐步进行规范。
参选人在选举前说的那些全都是屁话假话。
Aadmi will get Aam but no Kaam（ 这句实在译不出来~请教高手）
所有的电子废弃物会被倾倒在这片土地上。
我不认为我们拥有一名有效率的能来规范这个国家的领导人。
{ 这一贴翻译耗时过长~~此为就结贴~~鉴定完毕~飘走}
truth
真相了~
by migtwentyone bis (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 12:35 PM | Hide replies
india will produce 200 Mega slums in the next 15 years.
今后的15年，印度会制造200个大型贫民窟。
Re: truth
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by Paradox (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 01:44 PM
Name one mega slum that grew in the last 25 years after Dharavi in Mumbai..
Even Dharavi is getting better by the day
那就请你举出一个过去25年中除了孟买的Dharavi以外的贫民窟吧。
就连Dharavi也越变越好了
Re: Re: truth
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by migtwentyone bis (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 02:01 PM
govandi slum,mankhurd slum etc
Govandi贫民窟~mankhurd贫民窟等等
{ 这哥们儿也玩儿真的了~}
Re: truth
回第一个人
by Dev (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 04:28 PM
you are right. agree totally
你真相了~~~我举双手赞成
India should change the attitude
印度必须转变态度
中国只重视局部
by kalpesh shah (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:11 AM | Hide replies
reservation..religion...
tell me who is secular shahi imam or the man who
beaten by imam’’s bodygaurd
对于宗教我持保留意见
请告诉我谁是上海地区伊斯兰教教长或者谁是被教长保安驱赶的人？
（ 这句我能力有限了~shahi是个啥？~按我得理解大概就是中国不存在和宗教沾边儿的东东~）
india will have 200 mega-slums by nex 15 years
15年后印度才会有200个特大贫民窟吧~~
by sagar (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:24 AM | Hide replies india will have 200 mega-slums by nex 15 years. first see and try to imporve/show by
improving the conditon of financial capital and other cities scuh as living standard,
slum, roads, garden, shcools, colleges, lakes,m trees etc and then think of building
200 mega cities. why indian politicians want to convert mumbai into shanghai why china
does not wnat to convert Beijing into Delhi or Mumbai.
15年后印度会有200个大垃圾场。先把我们的金融首府和其他一些城市的硬件提高点好不好呀~比如
生活标准，贫民窟，道路建设，城市花园，学校，大学，湖和（某种）树等等。之后再考虑建设200个
特大城市吧~。为毛印度的政治家总想让孟买变成上海呢？为毛中国人不想让北京变成德里或孟买呢？
All cities were developed before independence in India!!!!!!!!
印度没独立前的城市反而不断发展~（ 老兄你很猛么~）
by India (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:33 AM | Hide replies
Why no good cities developed after independence
This shows how useless Indian politicians are..
british were far better...they may have exploited Indians but built many
infrastructurelike
Railwys
Roads
Judiciary etc
Our present rules are far worse and biggest cheats
为什么独立后没有城市发展了呢？
这说明了印度的政府是多么的无能呀~
英国人则好得多，尽管他们侵略了印度但是建立了很多基础设施像铁路呀~公路呀~司法呀~等等~
我们现在的法规差的太远了~~根本是来糊弄我们的~
INDIANS ARE SELFISH
印度人太自私了啊~
by vivek srivastava (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 10:59 AM | Hide replies
The basic problem with India is that Indians are very selfish. We are bothered
only about our own interests and that of our families. This is the reason why
Indians are unable to follow simple social rules like standing in queue,
driving in the correct lane etc. Indians are less socially responsible than
developed countries. This culture reflects in the attitude of our politicians
too.Its of no use blaming politicians because they originate in Indian society.
Their only aim is to amass wealth sufficient for many generations. This is
because of the uncertainty in politics. Politicians have no long-term vision
for the country and hence compromise on any issue provided their ’’interests’’
are satisfied.Indian citizens also have a large role to play because they elect
a politician based on caste, creed, religion etc. This is done with the selfish
hope that when he comes to power he would do some favour for them. Now if the
elected politician has to do some favour for that particular person he has to
overlook another meritorious Indian. This sets a bad precedent and affects every
sphere of governance. Unless the common man realizes this and votes for
meritorious candidates, India can only dream about competing with China.
印度最根本的问题就是印度人的自私。我们从来只关心自己的利益和自己的家庭。这就是为什么印
度人连最基本的像排队，在规定的道路行车这样的社会规则都不能遵守。印度人比发达国家的更缺乏
社会责任感。这样的垃圾文化甚至影响到了我们的政治家们。所以一味的责怪政治家们是没有用的，
因为他们就诞生在印度这样一个社会中。他们的唯一目标就是世代享受荣华富贵，这是由于印度政坛
的不稳定。政治家们根本没有长远眼光，会向一切能满足他们自身利益的决策妥协。印度的居民们也
有不可推卸的责任，因为他们只根据种族姓氏，教义和宗教等等来投票。他们的出发点是自私的，因
为他们选择的人上台后会带给他们利益。现在看来，如果被选出来的政治家只有利于个别人，那那些
有利于印度整体的其他竞选者必然被忽略。这样坏的先例会影响到各方面的治理形成恶性循环。除非
现在的大众意识到这点并投票给那些对印度整体有利的参选者，否则印度想和中国竞争只能是做梦。
（~呼~~~）
Re: INDIANS ARE SELFISH
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by kuldip nair (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 11:06 AM
Very True but then i dont see that changing :(
I hope no one report abuse your post
顶个，而且到现在我并没有发现有任何改变（三哥表情小哭脸）
我希望没有人反对你上面所说的话。
Re: INDIANS ARE SELFISH
回第一个人
by KKunal Ghogrre (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 12:08 PM
Vivek: Very good and mature analysis
分析得很好，很理性。
Re: INDIANS ARE SELFISH
回第一个人（ omg~泪奔着滚去码字 ）
by new mumbai (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 11:49 AM
India would have being better if the Congress or Nehru would
not have ruled India after independence. That was a ugly point
for India. I don’’t think India would have being such as we have
now before independence. See other British colonies which are
far more developed and well cultured. No discipline was ever
levied on Indian by the government ever and today we see its
Consequence. Thre is no discipline among people for standing in
queues or driving in correct lanes. what do u expect from people
who drive auto and taxis these people were not able to receive
any good education and therefore they took up the profession of
driving auto & taxis. The police is corrupt, each & every department
in government is corrupt and this tradition began soon after
independence. There was no proper five years planning and implementation.
The bridges that were built in USA or other developed countries in
18th centuries are not built in India today. People are living lives of
cat & dogs here with no social security, no infrastucture, no good
government policies nothing that v can b proud of. sometimes i feel
guilty of giving birth to child and make the child like living in hell.
the development is so slow that by the time anything is developed the
population is grown so much that thing looks insufficient. I know politicans
r from our society but if the education level has not rised so nor will the
mentality of politicans grow.
如果在印度独立后国会和尼赫鲁没有改变印度的法规印度现在会变得更好。多么悲剧呀~（小羊
给您上茶几）我认为独立后印度并没有变得比之前更好。可以看出其他的英国殖民地比我们发
达多了，文化也发展了。政府从没有在我们身上强加税然而今天我们看到了这样做的结果。
没有规则规定人们应该排队并且应该在争取的道路上行车（哇塞~不是吧~~~擎天一声雷啊）。
别对这些人抱任何指望。他们没有接受良好的教育，然后他们选择了开车或开出租的职业。
警察早都腐败了~每一个政府部门都腐败了·~这样的“光荣”传统从独立后不久就开始了。
我们没有合理的五年计划（ 说的是中国的那个么？？ ）和没有任何实践。悲呀~~就连美国和
其他发达国家18世纪建的桥我们印度到今天还看不见影儿呢。人们相貌狗一样的活着，得不
到任何安全保障，（ 呜呼哀哉~在这里请允许小羊我留下一滴鳄鱼的眼泪吧~ ），没有完善的基
础设施，跟别提神马好的政策了，我们没有任何值得骄傲的东西。有时我感到生孩子并让他活在
这样的地狱里是一种罪恶。我们的发展如此之慢，就算我一切已经发展起来的时候巨大的人口也
会让一切变得紧缺。我知道我们的政府同样出自这个社会，但如果教育水平不能提高，我们领导人
的智慧也不会有所提高。
Yes we can also!
中国能做的咱也能呀~
by common man (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 11:09 AM | Hide replies
India also a developing county friends. Don’’t feel ashame.Don’’t feel
negative. Think about our previous socialist era. Actually we wasted
40 years after independence. At this rate of growth 2025 India will
become the same standard of present china.(But we have to dump the
Masjid/Mandir issue into the drain pit at least in 2025). If somebody
is performing more than us why feel jealousy? Why everybody blaming
politicians for everything? Ok corruption is there. Corruption is there
in china also.Corruption is there in all countries. But compared to
socialist era things are far better now. Then why complaint again & Again?
Our future will be the best .
印度也是发展中国家的伙伴呀。不要觉得羞愧，不要悲观。想想我们过去的社会主义时代吧，
我们浪费了独立之后40年的宝贵时光。如果抱着现在的增长率在2025年的时候印度会达到现
在中国的水平。（前提是我们必需在2025年前抛弃QZS或印度教寺庙的那些争议）。如果
有其他人（指中国）比我们做得好我们何必要嫉妒人家呢？为什么所有人都满员政治家呢？
好吧，我承认确实有腐败存在，可是每个国家都有腐败的问题呀。再说比起以前社会主义的
世代现在一切已经变得好多了。难道我们还要继续抱怨抱怨抱怨么？我们的未来会一片大好的。
Re: Yes we can also!
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by Proud Indian (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 12:00 PM
Forget it!!! We cannot. Not because of politicians...Its because of our own
attitude. No national pride(except for India-Pakistan games), "abuse public
property" attitude, lack of awarness in infrastructure usage(including ppl
who are literate), poor standard of life and very very low quality thinking.
These are few of many reasons...why we cannot.
老兄您歇了吧！！我们不能。并不是因为我们的政治家们，而是源于我们自己的态度。缺乏国
家的自豪感（除了在印巴博弈中），滥用公共财产的社会态度，缺乏实用基础设施的意识（包括
你上文中提到的那些人），底下的生活水平和低层次的思考方式。哦哦~~我提到的只是很小的
几点罢了。。。这就是为什么我们不能。（ 唉~小羊再次滴下鳄鱼的眼泪 ）
Re: Yes we can also!
回第一个
iby chirag kenia (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 12:11 PM
I like the way you think. Somewhere, even I feel being slow and no-where will
help us n long run. It’’s the people who make and break a country, not the
leaders :)
我喜欢你分析问题的方式。某些方面，连我也觉得我们很落后并且没有什么有助于长远发展
的东西。就是这些人建立并毁了我们的国家，而并不是那些领导者。（三哥笑脸）
200 Mega Budget Movies in India by next 20 years
今后的20年印度有200部大电影的预算
by Nancy Singh (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 12:33 PM | Hide replies
I think Indian Film Industry will produce 200 Mega Budget Movies by next 20 years.
Also few Big Scams like Satyam,3G,CWG,Verdict Issues,Terrorists Attacks...etc..
This seems to be lined up for the next few years..
Only fake promises before elections.
Aadmi will get Aam but no Kaam.
All the electronics wastes been dumped here.
I don’’t think we had an efficient leader who could rule this country.
我觉得在电影产业上，印度会在20年内投入200部大电影的财政预算。
那些骗钱的招数像Satyam技术，3G技术，CWG技术，判决事物，还有恐怖袭击等等会在将来更少出现。
这些在今后的几年中会逐步进行规范。
参选人在选举前说的那些全都是屁话假话。
Aadmi will get Aam but no Kaam（ 这句实在译不出来~请教高手）
所有的电子废弃物会被倾倒在这片土地上。
我不认为我们拥有一名有效率的能来规范这个国家的领导人。
{ 这一贴翻译耗时过长~~此为就结贴~~鉴定完毕~飘走}
truth
真相了~
by migtwentyone bis (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 12:35 PM | Hide replies
india will produce 200 Mega slums in the next 15 years.
今后的15年，印度会制造200个大型贫民窟。
Re: truth
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by Paradox (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 01:44 PM
Name one mega slum that grew in the last 25 years after Dharavi in Mumbai..
Even Dharavi is getting better by the day
那就请你举出一个过去25年中除了孟买的Dharavi以外的贫民窟吧。
就连Dharavi也越变越好了
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by migtwentyone bis (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 02:01 PM
govandi slum,mankhurd slum etc
Govandi贫民窟~mankhurd贫民窟等等
{ 这哥们儿也玩儿真的了~}
Re: truth
回第一个人
by Dev (View MyPage) on Oct 20, 2010 04:28 PM
you are right. agree totally
你真相了~~~我举双手赞成
India should change the attitude
印度必须转变态度
这。。。他们该到我们这翻译一些贴子。凯迪被无视了
很鄙视阿三。。有时候我们会不会也这样想别人，这是个问题，嗯{:yan:}
再续：
My recent trip to Bhutan I went thru Bengal via an airport named
Bagdogra then by road. The road journey was a nightmere just from
outside the road till borders of Bhutan I enquired to found that
a big political protest in hampering the road developments work in
bagdogra for last 6 months where it was originally proposed that
the 8 lanes national highway will pass but roadside shopwallas
are protesting. If this is the situation after 25 years India will
become caotic
我最近去了趟不丹途径一个叫Bagdogra的机场然后改走公路。我的妈呀~这公路走的~
简直是个噩梦，从还没进这条路开始到不丹边境结束。我问了问别人才知道我居然遇到了
大规模政治抗议。原来他们本来要建8条国家级高速公路，结果路旁的商店的经营者不干了，
一致抗议，所以到现在6个月了公路修建根本没有进展。如果着这样的话，那25年后印度会变得
毫无秩序 。{不解~~不丹和印度不是两个国家么？？}
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Gujarat developing Six mega cities
古吉拉特邦要发展6个大型城市
by SHS ( View MyPage ) on Oct 20, 2010 01:16 PM | Hide replies
Gujarat developing Six new mega cities with help of Japan.
古吉拉特邦（科普： 古吉拉特邦是位于印度最西部家的邦）要爱日本的帮助下发展6个大型城市 {呵呵~~小羊笑而不语}
Re: Gujarat developing Six mega cities
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by tamil ( View MyPage ) on Oct 20, 2010 04:05 PM
but china develops on its own...do gujarat needs spoon feeding even now..get some help from good engg from south india..who built major towers in gulf and singapore region...
呃~人家中国靠的是自己。。没错，古吉拉特现在需要帮助。那就向来自印度南部的工程师们寻求帮助吧，海湾和新加坡地区的几座主要的塔可是这帮人建的(⊙o⊙)哦。
Re: Re: Gujarat developing Six mega cities
再回
by prashant ( View MyPage ) on Oct 20, 2010 04:44 PM
its better to take help of japanese rather than black monkeys who will come and settle down and then start reproducing!!
算了吧~还不如请日本人呢。那些黑猴子来了，不走了，然后才开始干活儿｛ 这位是哪里人？｝
Re: Re: Re: Gujarat developing Six mega cities
by hanif muhammed ( View MyPage ) on Oct 20, 2010 05:37 PM
There goes your
indianness
你们印度人有去那里 。｛ 这位又是哪里人？｝
Are you aware that many of these cities are empty???
你知道这些城市中有许多都是空的吗？
by Paradox ( View MyPage ) on Oct 20, 2010 01:41 PM | Hide replies
Nothing to feel jelaous of chinese.. Once you show the chinese how to make something, they just replicate in 100s, 1000s or maybe millions.. Many of the so called cities which are ready, have no occupants.. Its understandable to see a building that is not occupied.. but an entire empty city is crazy..
These guys are heading for a major disaster.. dont worry..
没什么可嫉妒中国的。你一旦教会了他们如何做一个东西，他们会将着一个东西复制100次，1000次，甚至10万次。 那些所谓的城市根本没有人。如果一个楼没有人占据还可以理解，但你能想象一个城市都是空的么?太疯狂了 ｛ 要真是这样多爽呀~房价不是问题了~ ｝
We are going slow and steady.. Many of you may be in a hurry.. but India is not in a hurry to dominate the whole world.. We will one day.. slowly and surely..
我们发展的慢且稳。也许很多人会着急，但印度并不急着去主导整个世界，当然总有一天我们会的，慢慢来，绝对没跑儿。
Re: Are you aware that many of these cities are empty???
by Dev ( View MyPage ) on Oct 20, 2010 04:25 PM
If you want to tackle situation of 1 b people you have to have capability of building entire cities..maybe they build it,then lease the space to companies who in turn employ people. its possible to think like this when you have 1 b people.
Many small towns in West have very few ppl ther but have facilities for an entire Indian city
如果你想要应对10亿人口的情况你就必须有能力在全城建满房子。他们也许确实建了空房子，但之后可以租给企业呀，企业会招员工呀。当存在10亿人口是这样的想法是合理的。 许多西部的小城镇住的人更少，可那里放置的机器设备可以供用印度所有城市使用了。
china
中国
by Dev ( View MyPage ) on Oct 20, 2010 04:21 PM | Hide replies
china has got its act together.
it knows what it wants its cities to look like.
and how to get the funds for its infrastructure.
-India DOSENT KNOW what it cities should look like ! and DOSENT KNOW how to get it funded either.
China has a COMPREHENSIVE VISION for its cities. India has VISION LIKE SKIN DISEASE ..scabies,eczema
中国有的是行动，它知道它想要建怎样的城市还有如何取得建基础设施的资金。而这些印度却不知道，印度不知道城市因该是什么样子的也不知道怎么去弄那些钱。中国在城市发展上有全局的眼光。印度的眼光全集中在皮肤病，疥疮和湿疹上了。
Re: china
回
by Dharmesh Patel ( View MyPage ) on Oct 20, 2010 04:23 PM
ok, fine, whats the hurry to suffocate yourself in gas chambers??? you wants to reach from one city to another in 1 year or say in day or 2 like in India???
好了好了，你干嘛这么急着在瓦斯房里把自己憋死呢？你想从一个城市到另一个花一年的时间还是向在印度这样只花上1，2天呢？
Re: Re: china
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by Dev ( View MyPage ) on Oct 20, 2010 04:32 PM
is it difficult to travel from one city to other in china?
难道在中国从一个城市去另一个很费事儿么？｛ 小羊同问 ｝
Re: Re: Re: china
继续回着
by John ( View MyPage ) on Oct 23, 2010 10:22 AM
beijing subway will be longest in the world in 10 years
in fact at present you can go to another city tianjin in the subway....
10年内，北京地铁将是世界上最长的地铁。实际上，现在你就可以乘地铁去另一个城市天津了。｛ 证人小羊：否，此为城际高铁｝
Re: Re: china
回说憋死的的那位
by Dev ( View MyPage ) on Oct 20, 2010 04:31 PM
what ?? Patel,kya?? you saying india is better?
神马？patel你是说印度比较nb么？
India will also demobilezed 200 slums in next ten years ????
10年内印度能遣散200个贫民窟么 ？{小羊郑重声明：正在吃饭和刚吃饱的请跳过~否则后果自负}
by Samarpan Twinkle ( View MyPage ) on Oct 20, 2010 04:26 PM | Hide replies
India is demolishing slums developed by encroachment around Mumbai, Delhi, and many more cities where ever empty lands we saw encroachment and all those peoples from slums are sheeting all around rail lines, road sides and our civic body is looting from them by charging monthly rents including police personnel.
印度正致力于遣散孟买，德里周边那些由非法侵占的人聚集形成的贫民窟。还有更多的城市原本空旷的地方现在看来都已经被这些人占了。贫民窟里的人在铁路各处和道路两旁大便。而市政当局却从他们身上掠夺钱财，每月向他们收取租赁费，这其中甚至包括警察。
My recent trip to Bhutan I went thru Bengal via an airport named
Bagdogra then by road. The road journey was a nightmere just from
outside the road till borders of Bhutan I enquired to found that
a big political protest in hampering the road developments work in
bagdogra for last 6 months where it was originally proposed that
the 8 lanes national highway will pass but roadside shopwallas
are protesting. If this is the situation after 25 years India will
become caotic
我最近去了趟不丹途径一个叫Bagdogra的机场然后改走公路。我的妈呀~这公路走的~
简直是个噩梦，从还没进这条路开始到不丹边境结束。我问了问别人才知道我居然遇到了
大规模政治抗议。原来他们本来要建8条国家级高速公路，结果路旁的商店的经营者不干了，
一致抗议，所以到现在6个月了公路修建根本没有进展。如果着这样的话，那25年后印度会变得
毫无秩序 。{不解~~不丹和印度不是两个国家么？？}
=====================================================
Gujarat developing Six mega cities
古吉拉特邦要发展6个大型城市
by SHS ( View MyPage ) on Oct 20, 2010 01:16 PM | Hide replies
Gujarat developing Six new mega cities with help of Japan.
古吉拉特邦（科普： 古吉拉特邦是位于印度最西部家的邦）要爱日本的帮助下发展6个大型城市 {呵呵~~小羊笑而不语}
Re: Gujarat developing Six mega cities
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by tamil ( View MyPage ) on Oct 20, 2010 04:05 PM
but china develops on its own...do gujarat needs spoon feeding even now..get some help from good engg from south india..who built major towers in gulf and singapore region...
呃~人家中国靠的是自己。。没错，古吉拉特现在需要帮助。那就向来自印度南部的工程师们寻求帮助吧，海湾和新加坡地区的几座主要的塔可是这帮人建的(⊙o⊙)哦。
Re: Re: Gujarat developing Six mega cities
再回
by prashant ( View MyPage ) on Oct 20, 2010 04:44 PM
its better to take help of japanese rather than black monkeys who will come and settle down and then start reproducing!!
算了吧~还不如请日本人呢。那些黑猴子来了，不走了，然后才开始干活儿｛ 这位是哪里人？｝
Re: Re: Re: Gujarat developing Six mega cities
by hanif muhammed ( View MyPage ) on Oct 20, 2010 05:37 PM
There goes your
indianness
你们印度人有去那里 。｛ 这位又是哪里人？｝
Are you aware that many of these cities are empty???
你知道这些城市中有许多都是空的吗？
by Paradox ( View MyPage ) on Oct 20, 2010 01:41 PM | Hide replies
Nothing to feel jelaous of chinese.. Once you show the chinese how to make something, they just replicate in 100s, 1000s or maybe millions.. Many of the so called cities which are ready, have no occupants.. Its understandable to see a building that is not occupied.. but an entire empty city is crazy..
These guys are heading for a major disaster.. dont worry..
没什么可嫉妒中国的。你一旦教会了他们如何做一个东西，他们会将着一个东西复制100次，1000次，甚至10万次。 那些所谓的城市根本没有人。如果一个楼没有人占据还可以理解，但你能想象一个城市都是空的么?太疯狂了 ｛ 要真是这样多爽呀~房价不是问题了~ ｝
We are going slow and steady.. Many of you may be in a hurry.. but India is not in a hurry to dominate the whole world.. We will one day.. slowly and surely..
我们发展的慢且稳。也许很多人会着急，但印度并不急着去主导整个世界，当然总有一天我们会的，慢慢来，绝对没跑儿。
Re: Are you aware that many of these cities are empty???
by Dev ( View MyPage ) on Oct 20, 2010 04:25 PM
If you want to tackle situation of 1 b people you have to have capability of building entire cities..maybe they build it,then lease the space to companies who in turn employ people. its possible to think like this when you have 1 b people.
Many small towns in West have very few ppl ther but have facilities for an entire Indian city
如果你想要应对10亿人口的情况你就必须有能力在全城建满房子。他们也许确实建了空房子，但之后可以租给企业呀，企业会招员工呀。当存在10亿人口是这样的想法是合理的。 许多西部的小城镇住的人更少，可那里放置的机器设备可以供用印度所有城市使用了。
china
中国
by Dev ( View MyPage ) on Oct 20, 2010 04:21 PM | Hide replies
china has got its act together.
it knows what it wants its cities to look like.
and how to get the funds for its infrastructure.
-India DOSENT KNOW what it cities should look like ! and DOSENT KNOW how to get it funded either.
China has a COMPREHENSIVE VISION for its cities. India has VISION LIKE SKIN DISEASE ..scabies,eczema
中国有的是行动，它知道它想要建怎样的城市还有如何取得建基础设施的资金。而这些印度却不知道，印度不知道城市因该是什么样子的也不知道怎么去弄那些钱。中国在城市发展上有全局的眼光。印度的眼光全集中在皮肤病，疥疮和湿疹上了。
Re: china
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by Dharmesh Patel ( View MyPage ) on Oct 20, 2010 04:23 PM
ok, fine, whats the hurry to suffocate yourself in gas chambers??? you wants to reach from one city to another in 1 year or say in day or 2 like in India???
好了好了，你干嘛这么急着在瓦斯房里把自己憋死呢？你想从一个城市到另一个花一年的时间还是向在印度这样只花上1，2天呢？
Re: Re: china
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by Dev ( View MyPage ) on Oct 20, 2010 04:32 PM
is it difficult to travel from one city to other in china?
难道在中国从一个城市去另一个很费事儿么？｛ 小羊同问 ｝
Re: Re: Re: china
继续回着
by John ( View MyPage ) on Oct 23, 2010 10:22 AM
beijing subway will be longest in the world in 10 years
in fact at present you can go to another city tianjin in the subway....
10年内，北京地铁将是世界上最长的地铁。实际上，现在你就可以乘地铁去另一个城市天津了。｛ 证人小羊：否，此为城际高铁｝
Re: Re: china
回说憋死的的那位
by Dev ( View MyPage ) on Oct 20, 2010 04:31 PM
what ?? Patel,kya?? you saying india is better?
神马？patel你是说印度比较nb么？
India will also demobilezed 200 slums in next ten years ????
10年内印度能遣散200个贫民窟么 ？{小羊郑重声明：正在吃饭和刚吃饱的请跳过~否则后果自负}
by Samarpan Twinkle ( View MyPage ) on Oct 20, 2010 04:26 PM | Hide replies
India is demolishing slums developed by encroachment around Mumbai, Delhi, and many more cities where ever empty lands we saw encroachment and all those peoples from slums are sheeting all around rail lines, road sides and our civic body is looting from them by charging monthly rents including police personnel.
印度正致力于遣散孟买，德里周边那些由非法侵占的人聚集形成的贫民窟。还有更多的城市原本空旷的地方现在看来都已经被这些人占了。贫民窟里的人在铁路各处和道路两旁大便。而市政当局却从他们身上掠夺钱财，每月向他们收取租赁费，这其中甚至包括警察。
看到长长地翻译贴就有点头疼 LZ可以现整理一下嘛 挑出亮点来就好啦
3哥 说历史比我们悠久 是对的
文化渊源的确比我们 早几百年 。。
文化渊源的确比我们 早几百年 。。
上次那个有名的关于贫民窟的影片，里面的人还很乐观呢，甚至以为他们代表一种新的居住模式
翻的不错,辛苦了,翻了这么多.
对lz
套句我常说的
感谢大大无私分享
套句我常说的
感谢大大无私分享
印度干净的水·····三哥是挺悲催的，但看的出来，很多活的依然很乐观。
啊3很活跃呀 继续看
LZ 你的翻译有些悲剧。
翻译的挺好，楼主辛苦了
中国菠菜 发表于 2011-5-10 12:08 
这个人明显是自嘲嘛
这个人明显是自嘲嘛
三哥威武——有脑子的管不了事，管事的没脑子。
楼主很V5啊。翻译了这么多。。
两个后续里的一些评论比较有意思。也有不少印度的冷静党。
两个后续里的一些评论比较有意思。也有不少印度的冷静党。
不可大意啊。。。
3哥野心勃勃 不可不防（从他买那么多武器就能看出）
虽然蠢 但是有一天来个个不蠢的领导 。。 那就麻烦了
3哥野心勃勃 不可不防（从他买那么多武器就能看出）
虽然蠢 但是有一天来个个不蠢的领导 。。 那就麻烦了
欢乐的三哥，活的真幸福:D
猥琐的老道 发表于 2011-5-10 12:21
他们那悠久的历史已经灭绝 除了阶级制度
他们那悠久的历史已经灭绝 除了阶级制度
干净的水哇
三锅还是有明白人滴
去过印度，就知道什么叫非人间了
中国菠菜 发表于 2011-5-10 12:11
人家说的没错，印度当英国殖民地的时候确实发展比现在快很多。
人家说的没错，印度当英国殖民地的时候确实发展比现在快很多。
楼主辛苦
看来印度还是有思考国家民族命运的人。
“今后的20年印度有200部大电影的预算 ”
这句搞笑
这句搞笑
三哥总是这么充满喜感
阿三果然威武
是有10个超千万人口的城市，不是百万
猥琐的老道 发表于 2011-5-10 12:21
古印度文明早已经灭亡。
古印度文明早已经灭亡。
三哥说起来比md都墙上很多，不知道和宇宙第一大国比咋样
原文用了not as arrogant/hittler kinds as jintao应该是不需要一个希特勒式的涛哥,但至少要有一半像他,就是能抓住一切(权力);所以三哥那位不是涛粉而是涛黑
完全相信三哥能建很多的贫民窟。
这个国家看样子在不断内耗中前进;P
These industrious Chinese and Pakistanis have made development of their countries as their religion and unless we wake up, I am afraid brother, we will be left even further behind because the gap between us and these countries continues to grow wider with each passing day.
由于人们的信仰（ 中国的信仰？？？难道只佛教？？）
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他说俺们把发展作为自己的信仰
由于人们的信仰（ 中国的信仰？？？难道只佛教？？）
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他说俺们把发展作为自己的信仰
这种帖子好，看到很多欢乐的东西
猥琐的老道 发表于 2011-5-10 12:21
古印度文明和现在的印度文明不是一个传承
古印度文明和现在的印度文明不是一个传承
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