Bill Sweetman大拿对着这张照片的神吐槽........

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One Foggy Day In China


Posted by Bill Sweetman at 12/23/2010 8:30 AM CST



Is China about to give airpower hawks their best Christmas present ever?

The internetz are buzzing (start here and here) with a picture that allegedly shows China's next-generation Chengdu J-20 fighter - the first known Chinese stealth aircraft - undergoing high-speed taxi trials, with rumors of a first flight within weeks.




The picture appeared today on the very popular Chinese military fan web site Top81, apparently taken by a cell phone from a car. The bad news is that it makes 1950s shots of new MiGs and Sukhois look like Katsu Tokunaga material. Rumor has it that better shots have put in transient appearances on Chinese websites before being zapped by the censor.

China military specialist and DTI contributor Rick Fisher notes that "in China's military fan web culture, the rapid intervention of the censors is always a boost for the credibility of the poster" and adds that his sources are also predicting an early first flight.

"Such drip-by-drip revelations are apparently condoned or even encouraged by the PLA," Fisher adds. "One rarely hears any  more of web posters going to 'drink tea', the Chinese euphemism for having your life upended by the military or party police."

Overall, Fisher notes, "the web leaks will continue, as this feeds directly into the Communist Party's massive and well-stoked program to promote militaristic nationalism."

Some people are speculating intensively about details such as diverterless inlets and all-moving tails, but as Fisher cautions, "like so much of the PLA, you just can't say for sure what it is until it's falling on your head."


看上去洋大人们对土鳖军坛上的这点伎俩已经见怪不怪了。

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One Foggy Day In China


Posted by Bill Sweetman at 12/23/2010 8:30 AM CST



Is China about to give airpower hawks their best Christmas present ever?

The internetz are buzzing (start here and here) with a picture that allegedly shows China's next-generation Chengdu J-20 fighter - the first known Chinese stealth aircraft - undergoing high-speed taxi trials, with rumors of a first flight within weeks.




The picture appeared today on the very popular Chinese military fan web site Top81, apparently taken by a cell phone from a car. The bad news is that it makes 1950s shots of new MiGs and Sukhois look like Katsu Tokunaga material. Rumor has it that better shots have put in transient appearances on Chinese websites before being zapped by the censor.

China military specialist and DTI contributor Rick Fisher notes that "in China's military fan web culture, the rapid intervention of the censors is always a boost for the credibility of the poster" and adds that his sources are also predicting an early first flight.

"Such drip-by-drip revelations are apparently condoned or even encouraged by the PLA," Fisher adds. "One rarely hears any  more of web posters going to 'drink tea', the Chinese euphemism for having your life upended by the military or party police."

Overall, Fisher notes, "the web leaks will continue, as this feeds directly into the Communist Party's massive and well-stoked program to promote militaristic nationalism."

Some people are speculating intensively about details such as diverterless inlets and all-moving tails, but as Fisher cautions, "like so much of the PLA, you just can't say for sure what it is until it's falling on your head."


看上去洋大人们对土鳖军坛上的这点伎俩已经见怪不怪了。
什么东西这是?
老外都知道喝茶了
飞扬的丝带图引起老外关注,但表示蛋定.
party police???
多新鲜,最恶心的就是自以为是白毛狒狒。
条例草案斯威特曼大拿对着这张照片的神吐槽........
圣诞节,约,照片
本帖最后由raptor82于2010年12月24号20:44编辑

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雾天在一个中国


比尔斯威特曼发表于二○一○年十二月二十三日上午8时30分委



中国是否打算放弃他们的空中力量鹰派有史以来最好的圣诞礼物?

热闹的internetz是(从这里开始和这里)用图片,据称显示中国的下一代成都J - 20战斗机 - 第一个已知的中国隐形飞机 - 经历高速的士试验,用一个星期内第一次飞行的传闻。




今天的图片出现在中国军事迷非常流行的网站Top81显然是一个从汽车手机拍摄。坏消息是,它使20世纪50年代新米格和Sukhois图片,如猪排德永材料看看。有传言说,更好的镜头在中文网站上短暂露面提出,然后由检查员手段传给。

中国军事专家费舍尔和DTI贡献者里克指出,“在中国的军事迷网络文化,检查员迅速干预始终是海报的可信度提高”,并补充说,他的消息来源也预测早期的首次飞行。

“这样滴逐滴揭露显然是纵容,甚至由解放军鼓舞,”费舍尔补充说。 “一个很少听到任何网页海报更会因你的生活由军队或警察颠覆党为'喝茶',对中国的委婉说法。”

总体而言,费舍尔指出,“在网上泄漏会继续下去,因为这直接进入饲料共产党的大规模和良好的方案,以促进军国主义引发民族主义。”

有些人猜测集中对诸如diverterless入口和所有移动尾巴的细节,但费舍尔警告说,“像这样的解放军多,你就不能说肯定它是什么,直到它在你头上的感觉。”
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要吐就冲谷歌去吐吧!:D
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看不懂方言啊
菲舍尔那个反华分子的话也能作为论据,这个所谓的大拿也就是既无知又愚蠢的家伙.
有图的大大们一定要蛋定啊,喝茶小事,泄密事大啊!
yijug0@foxmail.com 偶只看一眼
kk1000 发表于 2010-12-24 21:27


   
是哦

宋总写论文参考文献第一条就是这位既无知又愚蠢的家伙写的书.............

sweetman.jpg
这个叫大拿?
raptor82 发表于 2010-12-24 21:35

他清楚中国的情况?

他对中国的了解就是通过那个菲舍尔的报道,说他无知又愚蠢如何了?

面对志愿军,麦克阿瑟同样显得既愚蠢又自大.
The bad news is that it makes 1950s shots of new MiGs and Sukhois look like Katsu Tokunaga material. ===================

看看这一句,说这个人既愚蠢又无知还真没错,有哪个50年代的米格和苏霍伊的设计和四代很像的?

The bad news is that it makes 1950s shots of new MiGs and Sukhois look like Katsu Tokunaga material. ...
kk1000 发表于 2010-12-24 21:44



   

朋友帮帮忙。。。。。。。。。

:L


这句话的意思是“坏消息是,这张照片(成像差得)让那些1950年代的新式米格和苏霍伊飞机的照片看上去像是Katsu Tokunaga(现役超一流航空摄影师,Code One Magazine的御用)拍的"...............


完全是在吐槽这张照片实在看不来什么东西而已。
The bad news is that it makes 1950s shots of new MiGs and Sukhois look like Katsu Tokunaga material. ...
kk1000 发表于 2010-12-24 21:44



   

朋友帮帮忙。。。。。。。。。

:L


这句话的意思是“坏消息是,这张照片(成像差得)让那些1950年代的新式米格和苏霍伊飞机的照片看上去像是Katsu Tokunaga(现役超一流航空摄影师,Code One Magazine的御用)拍的"...............


完全是在吐槽这张照片实在看不来什么东西而已。
解释就是掩饰,否定即是承认;爆尿无罪,憋死活该


不就是说网络泄露是解放军故意放出的烟雾弹,还有网络消息不到最后不能轻信么。
我觉得没啥问题啊,里面我看不出有啥让人不爽的,就是吐槽几句顺便打个哈哈,没看出有啥自大什么的,

LS几位至于么,假的真不了真的假不了,等等就知道了。

不就是说网络泄露是解放军故意放出的烟雾弹,还有网络消息不到最后不能轻信么。
我觉得没啥问题啊,里面我看不出有啥让人不爽的,就是吐槽几句顺便打个哈哈,没看出有啥自大什么的,

LS几位至于么,假的真不了真的假不了,等等就知道了。
想不到消息那么快就传到了国外了,这文章读的给力啊
终有一日MD将发现自己成为井底之蛙,哈哈。
什么都没说……
一点干货都没有
B.S 绝对是航空界的大牛 无需怀疑的。。。从他的文章来看 他是相当不屑国内保密制度的 哈哈 当然我们自己问题也很多 还有也要看看这哥们发工资的单位是啥 哈哈
呵呵,大家都要淡定
哈哈,老外都知道“喝茶”了
这名字好啊,SWEETMAN
:sleepy::sleepy:
两栖人 发表于 2010-12-24 21:00


   
这翻得太有菜了
洋人心态一直如此, 又恨又怕
中国鸽派 发表于 2010-12-25 13:09


中国人心态一直如此,以为洋人又恨又怕,习惯代表别人,喜欢扣帽子

楼主发的内容里,哪里是洋人又恨又怕了?
哈哈,看的很透彻么.
回复 29# pzgr43
哦哦, 不是吗?那你到是说说洋人面对土共的四代是个什么心态?
中国鸽派 发表于 2010-12-25 13:17



你不是说洋人一直又恨又怕? 主贴里的洋人哪里又恨又怕了?你的论据反而要来问我?你到底有没有看懂主贴里的文字?
我能看懂几个单词
'drink tea', the Chinese euphemism for having your life upended by the military or party police."
哈哈哈,老外都知道喝茶了,太搞了。
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raptor82 发表于 2010-12-24 21:35

Bill Sweetman! Is this guy a spy? :D
我觉得这篇文章说得还是挺靠谱的

对中文军网以及军迷们至少有些了解,比如喝茶这种术语都知道。另外,他们也认为官泄的存在,我也是相信这一点的,至于他们说官泄的目的在于提高militaristic nationalism,这个不认同,但爱国主义是肯定的

说实在的,我觉得对于军事装备可以更加公开一点,不需要公开关键参数,但外形倒是可以公开一些,毕竟国外情报机构也不是吃素的,那么多卫星成天都在你头上转悠
将来drink tea会成为标准英文词汇吗?;P
军国主义 晕死 他们对论坛上的HKC就是这样理解的 太搞了。