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文章太长,连接如下
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/1 ... ronment/10yuan.html

让我意外的是竟然有134个评论,呵呵, 看来老美挺关心我们的。
大部分都是说中国做得对, 我们的领导人有智慧, 然后抱怨本国政府等等。。。。
天下网民是一家啊。
不过人家认真回帖的比例蛮高的。
比如这位仁兄:
China's closing of energy-inefficient plants illustrates that a repressive government can make good economic decisions. China's largest banks and oil companies are government-controlled and mostly government owned a far different model than used in the US. One could call it state capitalism rather than free-market capitalism.

Americans have a generally chauvinistic attitude towards China. While rightly pointing out that China often utilizes coercive methods to achieve its aims, Americans have by and large failed to fully inform the electorate on key issues needed for making wise economic decisions.

The energy decision by China's leaders is only one in a series. Another decision was the one-child policy that Americans love to hate, but which has cut the population growth in China down to about .51% per year (compared to 1.34% growth in China and .9% in the US). China's leaders may be somewhat unimaginative engineers and functionaries, but at least they informed themselves about the crucial importance of population control in providing economic stability for their country.

Consider the results. I recently travelled on the new electrified train from Tianjin to Beijing as well as the outmoded train connecting Delhi to Agra. There is no comparison. Managing population growth is one of the primary reasons that China has been able to become an economic superpower. While the US has an economic stimulus program that helps build high speed rail from Tampa to Orlando, China will soon have TV service connecting Beijing to Hong Kong.

I am ashamed to be an American. If it is true that China censors the press, it is also true that politicians and journalists effectively censor the press in the US by simply refusing to consider the need for policies limiting population growth as essential to pulling out of the incipient economic depression.

They do this by claiming that anybody who discusses population growth is automatically a racist. It is actually the reverse that is true. Hispanics or any ethnic group who maintains that their ethnic group deserves more than two children per family is actually engaged in a form of racism. OK, let's give such groups the benefit of the doubt. Their views are born of ignorance, not the notion that Hispanics are more deserving of passing their genetic information to the next generation.

In any case, American innumeracy is profound. Nobody seems to notice that the US population growth rate means 230,000 new residents per month, more than the number of new jobs being created by our economy as it struggles to climb out of what has been euphemistically described as the Great Recession.

American stupidity is profound. Politicians of both parties by their ignorance doom millions to lost jobs, others to bankruptcy and foreclosure.文章太长,连接如下
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/1 ... ronment/10yuan.html

让我意外的是竟然有134个评论,呵呵, 看来老美挺关心我们的。
大部分都是说中国做得对, 我们的领导人有智慧, 然后抱怨本国政府等等。。。。
天下网民是一家啊。
不过人家认真回帖的比例蛮高的。
比如这位仁兄:
China's closing of energy-inefficient plants illustrates that a repressive government can make good economic decisions. China's largest banks and oil companies are government-controlled and mostly government owned a far different model than used in the US. One could call it state capitalism rather than free-market capitalism.

Americans have a generally chauvinistic attitude towards China. While rightly pointing out that China often utilizes coercive methods to achieve its aims, Americans have by and large failed to fully inform the electorate on key issues needed for making wise economic decisions.

The energy decision by China's leaders is only one in a series. Another decision was the one-child policy that Americans love to hate, but which has cut the population growth in China down to about .51% per year (compared to 1.34% growth in China and .9% in the US). China's leaders may be somewhat unimaginative engineers and functionaries, but at least they informed themselves about the crucial importance of population control in providing economic stability for their country.

Consider the results. I recently travelled on the new electrified train from Tianjin to Beijing as well as the outmoded train connecting Delhi to Agra. There is no comparison. Managing population growth is one of the primary reasons that China has been able to become an economic superpower. While the US has an economic stimulus program that helps build high speed rail from Tampa to Orlando, China will soon have TV service connecting Beijing to Hong Kong.

I am ashamed to be an American. If it is true that China censors the press, it is also true that politicians and journalists effectively censor the press in the US by simply refusing to consider the need for policies limiting population growth as essential to pulling out of the incipient economic depression.

They do this by claiming that anybody who discusses population growth is automatically a racist. It is actually the reverse that is true. Hispanics or any ethnic group who maintains that their ethnic group deserves more than two children per family is actually engaged in a form of racism. OK, let's give such groups the benefit of the doubt. Their views are born of ignorance, not the notion that Hispanics are more deserving of passing their genetic information to the next generation.

In any case, American innumeracy is profound. Nobody seems to notice that the US population growth rate means 230,000 new residents per month, more than the number of new jobs being created by our economy as it struggles to climb out of what has been euphemistically described as the Great Recession.

American stupidity is profound. Politicians of both parties by their ignorance doom millions to lost jobs, others to bankruptcy and foreclosure.
看了一下reader's recommendation最高的几个,全都是美国JY对中国的称赞:L

就差喊:中国,XX的灯塔,人类的希望
字母都认识.
老美现在失业率高,对政府,特别是奥巴马的失望情绪在积聚,看国会的中期选举吧
看英文真的很累啊
天下网民是一家
长句还是不过关:(
[:a5:] 人家网民素质真高 看的我汗颜啊 当然和TIMES本身受众教育程度较高有关系
不要总是妄自菲薄嘛

老外的那种评论删帖也是很厉害的
写的很好,我很赞同
翻译如下:

TG最近把不少能耗低效率企业给关了,看来这专制政府搞经济还是有一手的。中国的大银行和石油公司都是吃皇粮的,TG的体制和咱美国的不一样,应该说是国家资本主义,不是自由市场资本主义。

美国老是对中国戴有色眼镜啊。美国政客一边说中国老搞强制政策,自己对那些搞好经济涉及的关键问题,又不好好跟选民说。

这个能耗政策只是一方面,TG干的实事不少。再一个就是计划生育政策,美国人表示一胎化什么的最讨厌了。这个政策把中国的年人口增长率降低到了0.51%。TG领导人可能是比较呆板、官僚,但他们至少明白人口控制对经济稳定有多重要。

想想那结果吧。最近我坐了一次京津高铁,也体验了一把从德里到阿格拉的老爷车。根本没法比!控制人口增长,是中国经济大好的一个重要原因。当美国出台经济刺激计划,准备造从坦帕到奥兰多的高速铁路的时候,中国都要开通北京和香港之间的电视服务了。

身为美国人真是耻辱啊,耻辱!如果说TG确实搞媒体审查,那么美国政客和记者对媒体也审查的厉害呢。人口控制对于摆脱初期阶段的经济衰退至关重要,但他们都华丽丽的无视了。

他们说宣扬人口控制的都是种族主义者。完全说反了!那些拉美裔或者其他什么族群的,说他们就应该每家生两胎以上,这才是搞种族主义!唉,好吧,我们对他们就算疑罪从无好了。他们那是无知,倒不是认为拉美裔更有资格多多传宗接代。

美国人怎么看都是脑残无药医也。没人知道,美国现在人口增长率这么高,每个月都要增加23万人,比新增加的就业机会还多。可怜我们的经济还在苦苦挣扎,这形势,还美其名曰“大衰退”。

美国人真是蠢的没救了。有两党这帮脑残政客在,注定了N多屁民失业,要么破产,连房子都被收走了。
FF们都是一样啊
赫赫,人们总是崇拜胜利者。最近三十年,TG已经是战无不胜的形象了,跟欧美的衰落鲜明对比。
看贼吃肉,不看贼挨打
回复 11# 几把叉子
兄弟翻译的很好啊!
看了原文,乃翻译得很萌……

老外很多人还是很诚实的,不过也别洋洋得意,tg的问题太多了
几把叉子 发表于 2010-8-12 11:47


    相当有才
不跟谁家过,不知谁家难啊。
都惦记这贼吃肉不知道贼挨打。。
回复 11# 几把叉子


    八错,真有几把刷子。{:hao:}
几把叉子 发表于 2010-8-12 11:47


     这个翻译。。。藏了很多小地雷啊
回复 21# blwu
是,有的地方觉得有问题
几把叉子 发表于 2010-8-12 11:47


    翻译的很有网络特色
他们说宣扬人口控制的都是种族主义者。完全说反了!那些拉美裔或者其他什么族群的,说他们就应该每家生两胎以上,这才是搞种族主义!唉,好吧,我们对他们就算疑罪从无好了。他们那是无知,倒不是认为拉美裔更有资格多多传宗接代。
这个评论也很搞:

Eli
Boston, MA
August 9th, 2010
12:12 pm
14. bob michigan August 9th, 2010 11:35 am SAID:
"If they close the steel and cement plants, where do they get the steel and cement from?"

WRONG QUESTION!

If they close the steel and cement plants, where do WE get the steel and cement from?

“如果他们(中国)关闭了钢铁厂和水泥厂,他们要从哪搞到钢铁和水泥呢?”

错误的问题!

如果他们(中国)关闭了钢铁厂和水泥厂,我们(美国)要从哪搞到钢铁和水泥呢?
看来:美国人也很害怕少数族裔的子宫武器。人口确实是国家的根本。
民族问题是国家的根本问题,民族问题的本质其实就是人口和土地的关系。
嗯 看来网民都是要发泄的
老婆都是别人家的好.....
SHENYANG, China — Forget the calls by many Chinese patients for more honest, better-qualified doctors. What this city’s 27 public hospitals really needed, officials decided last month, was police officers.

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A police vehicle at the hospital last month. Shenyang reported 152 “severe conflicts” between patients and doctors last year.
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Slogans on banners at China Medical University Hospital No. 1 call for harmonious relations between doctors and patients.
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And not just at the entrance, but as deputy administrators. The goal: to keep disgruntled patients and their relatives from attacking the doctors.

The decision was quickly reversed after Chinese health experts assailed it, arguing that the police were public servants, not doctors’ personal bodyguards.

But officials in this northeastern industrial hub of nearly eight million people had a point. Chinese hospitals are dangerous places to work. In 2006, the last year the Health Ministry published statistics on hospital violence, attacks by patients or their relatives injured more than 5,500 medical workers.

“I think the police should have a permanent base here,” said a neurosurgeon at Shengjing Hospital. “I always feel this element of danger.”

In June alone, a doctor was stabbed to death in Shandong Province by the son of a patient who had died of liver cancer. Three doctors were severely burned in Shanxi Province when a patient set fire to a hospital office. A pediatrician in Fujian Province was also injured after leaping out a fifth-floor window to escape angry relatives of a newborn who had died under his care.

Over the past year, families of deceased patients have forced doctors to don mourning clothes as a sign of atonement for poor care, and organized protests to bar hospital entrances. Four years ago, 2,000 people rioted at a hospital after reports that a 3-year-old was refused treatment because his grandfather could not pay $82 in upfront fees. The child died.

Such episodes are to some extent standard fare in China, where protests over myriad issues have been on the rise. Officials at all levels of government are on guard against unrest that could spiral and threaten the Communist Party’s power.

Doctors and nurses say the strains in the relations between them and patients’ relatives are often the result of unrealistic expectations by poor families who, having traveled far and exhausted their savings on care, expect medical miracles.

But the violence also reflects much wider discontent with China’s public health care system. Although the government, under Communist leadership, once offered rudimentary health care at nominal prices, it pulled back in the 1990s, leaving hospitals largely to fend for themselves in the new market economy.

By 2000, the World Health Organization ranked China’s health system as one of the world’s most inequitable, 188th among 191 nations. Nearly two of every five sick people went untreated. Only one in 10 had health insurance.

Over the past seven years, the state has intervened anew, with notable results. It has narrowed if not eliminated the gap in public health care spending with other developing nations of similar income levels, health experts say, pouring tens of billions of dollars into government insurance plans and hospital construction.

The World Bank estimates that more than three in four Chinese are now insured, although coverage is often basic. And far more people are getting care: the World Bank says hospital admissions in rural counties have doubled in five years.

“That is a steep, steep increase,” said Jack Langenbrunner, human development coordinator at the World Bank’s Beijing office. “We haven’t seen that in any other country.”

Still, across much of China, the quality of care remains low. Almost half the nation’s doctors have no better than a high school degree, according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. Many village doctors did not make it past junior high school.

Primary care is scarce, so public hospitals — notorious for excessive fees — are typically patients’ first stop in cities, even for minor ailments. One survey estimated that a fifth of hospital patients suffer from no more than a cold or flu. Chinese health experts estimate that a third to a half of patients are hospitalized for no good reason.

Once admitted, patients are at risk of needless surgery; for instance, one of every two Chinese newborns is delivered by Caesarean sections, a rate three times higher than health experts recommend.

Patients appear to be even more likely to get useless prescriptions. Drug sales are hospitals’ second biggest source of revenue, and many offer incentives that can lead doctors to overprescribe or link doctors’ salaries to the money they generate from prescriptions and costly diagnostic tests. Some pharmaceutical companies offer additional under-the-table inducements for prescribing drugs, doctors and experts say.

An article in November in The Guangzhou Daily in southeastern China cited one particularly egregious example of unnecessary treatment: a patient paid roughly $95 for a checkup, several injections and a dozen different drugs, including pills for liver disease. He had a cold.

The Health Ministry has ordered hospitals to reduce prices of specific drugs 23 times in a decade, but the World Bank says hospitals have responded, in part, by ordering higher-priced alternatives.

Some experts fear that the newly opened spigot of government insurance money will inspire further excesses, rather than reduce the financial risk of illness for most Chinese. Indeed, one study shows only a slight drop in the share of household spending devoted to health care — 8.2 percent in 2008, down from 8. 7 percent in 2003.

“Their protection may not really be improving with insurance,” said Mr. Langenbrunner of the World Bank. “That is the scary part.”

Doctors seem as unhappy as patients. They complain that they are underpaid, undervalued and mistrusted. One in four suffers from depression, and fewer than two of every three believe that their patients respect them, a survey by Peking University concluded in October.

In June, more than 100 doctors and nurses in Fujian Province staged their own sit-in after their hospital paid $31,000 to the family of a patient who died. The doctors were upset because after the patient died the relatives took a doctor hostage, setting off a bottle-throwing melee that injured five employees.

Like some other cities, Shenyang has been seeking ways to ward off disturbances, including setting up hospital mediation centers. Still, the city reported 152 “severe conflicts” between patients and doctors last year.

At Hospital No. 5, the memory of a January attack remains fresh. After a doctor referred a patient with a temperature to a fever clinic — standard practice in China — frustrated relatives beat the doctor and several nurses with a mop and sticks.

Now a banner strung across the hospital’s main lobby exhorts: “Everyone participate in the sorting out of the law and order problem!”


Li Bibo, Helen Gao and Xin Hui contributed research from Beijing, and Wang Xiao from Shanghai.


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讲患者打医生的,召唤梦想去飞翔
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Relatives attacking hospital staff are common enough in India and China. But I'm afraid that we may be getting to the same point here.
亲属攻击医院雇员在印度和tg太常见了,但是我担心我们这里发生同样的事情~
这位大哥倒是和我很有共鸣啊,一般人都只注意到国家审查,仿佛独立等于好的,却忽视了自我审查

I am ashamed to be an American. If it is true that China censors the press, it is also true that politicians and journalists effectively censor the press in the US by simply refusing to consider the need for policies limiting population growth as essential to pulling out of the incipient economic depression.
鸟语自重。
[:a9:]

在这个时候,我不得不以一个教育最大受害者的身份说,被逼着学会了一门外语,很多时候,却是很扩展自己的见识得。

可惜大部分的某部族,只能够依靠强烈反对某部门筛选过滤过的信息的部分人筛选过滤过的信息来了解英语世界。
呵呵,MD网民很幽默哇{:cha:}
Clearly China does not have a Senate.....

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“很明显,中国是没有参议院的”,这句话终于被我看到了,哈哈哈哈
汝儿乃我 发表于 2010-8-12 02:13


    中国的JY也是对美国赞不绝口啊.美国的JY可有不少对中国喊打喊杀的.
tomcat650093 发表于 2010-8-12 19:57

其实,按照我们国家的标准来说,这些都是五毛党啊

话说回来,五毛横行于美国,貌似也不是第一次见了
正因为国内压力大,所有需要到中国跟前转悠一下发泄发泄。{:wuyu:}