Dangerous Fakes，美国businessweek证实：中国农民销售 ...

前天看到那个“美国诬称中国假冒芯片致驻伊美军频繁坠机”，俺还以为是假滴，没想到在霉国之阴还真找到了差不多同样的报导，或许确有其事？;funk ;funk
看到那个汕头附近的贵屿村在打击霉军战斗力方面贡献很大地说？;P ;P ;P

国际软件巨头英特尔公司的一位发言人说，“很多年了，我们一直告诉国防部的人，应该直接从我们这里或者是指定的供货商那里购买零件，但是军 方一味地要追求廉价、而忽视了质量。”

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或许这才是重点？

山寨大叔大能呀。:victory:
哪位大大科普下美国的军队质量监督体系呀。:handshake

原帖由 淹死的鱼 于 2008-10-7 10:14 发表
山寨大叔大能呀。:victory:
哪位大大科普下美国的军队质量监督体系呀。:handshake

最新一代美军克星：中国农民伯伯[:a4:] [:a4:]

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果然不愧是"超级大国"啊

TG的农民伯伯懂个屁的打磨，还不都美国人教的

汕头人厉害，把老美都。。。。。

PC机芯片装战斗机和导弹上……;funk ;funk ;funk

那妓者水平真是……想黑也要有常识啊:L :L :L

又出自CNN吧。

反舰冰箱，反舰空调，芯片导弹。。。;P ;P

比好莱坞想象力差点，就只好做XX记者了。

70，80年代的电子设备已经没有备件，只好找同时代的旧货。美军收购老旧芯片也不足为奇。美国航天飞机也找过69年生产的芯片，是从废旧处理站的旧洗衣机里拆下来的。

想起很久之前的一个笑话：我们都把你们出口的给我们的安全套用完后做成口香糖再卖给你们。

这是businessweek网站上的原文网址，上面还有一段类似焦点访谈的视频，只可惜我不懂如何将它转过来。哪位高手可以转一下。
http://www.businessweek.com/maga ... p_news+%2B+analysis

呵呵，不过很多老型号的芯片确实只有二手的了。美国估计很多军用老电子设备的芯片都要靠中国的二手电子市场啦:D

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明显是找替罪羊嘛

英国卫报的报导
http://www.guardian.co.uk/techno ... t/06/security.china


China-sourced fake chips used in US military, says BusinessWeekAll comments (2) Fake microchips from China are causing a growing number of failures in military systems, according to an investigation by BusinessWeek magazine.

The FBI is also investigating a consignment of Cisco-badged routers which turned out to be counterfeit - and could have been used to hack into sensitive equipment.

The investigation found that the new tendency for the US Pentagon to buy equipment from off-the-shelf suppliers - some of them operating from residential addresses - has led to a fall in quality of supplied chips:

Robert P. Ernst, who heads research into counterfeit parts for the Naval Air Systems Command's Aging Aircraft Program in Patuxent River, Md. Ernst estimates that as many as 15% of all the spare and replacement microchips the Pentagon buys are counterfeit. As a result, he says, "we are having field failures regularly within our weapon systems—and in almost every weapon system."

And the "Cisco" routers? There were about 400:

counterfeit routers made in China and sold to the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines over the past four years. These fakes could facilitate foreign espionage, as well as cause accidents. The U.S. Justice Dept. is prosecuting the operators of an electronics distributor in Texas—and last year obtained guilty pleas from the proprietors of a company in Washington State—for allegedly selling the military dozens of falsely labeled routers, devices that direct data through digital networks. The routers were marked as having been made by the San Jose technology giant Cisco Systems

BusinessWeek tracked the source of the parts back to traders in Shenzhen, China:

The traders typically obtain supplies from recycled-chip emporiums such as the Guiyu Electronics Market outside the city of Shantou in southeastern China. The garbage-strewn streets of Guiyu reek of burning plastic as workers in back rooms and open yards strip chips from old PC circuit boards. The components, typically less than an inch long, are cleaned in the nearby Lianjiang River and then sold from the cramped premises of businesses such as Jinlong Electronics Trade Center.

A sign for Jinlong Electronics advertises in Chinese that it sells "military" circuitry, meaning chips that are more durable than commercial components and able to function at extreme temperatures. But proprietor Lu Weilong admits that his wares are counterfeit.

It's a serious problem which also seems to have affected BAe Systems, according to the story. It amounts, in the words of one of the ex-army people, to "a pollution of the military supply chain".

美军尚且如此，我军如何呢？

军机用部分民用电子器件是很正常啊,当年成都某公司就问美国MOLEX采购民用接插件用在某型号上

原帖由 jumin 于 2008-10-7 11:51 发表
军机用部分民用电子器件是很正常啊,当年成都某公司就问美国MOLEX采购民用接插件用在某型号上

总感觉这事中间有猫泥

原帖由 zhizunwudi2790 于 2008-10-7 11:50 发表
美军尚且如此，我军如何呢？

我军应该要好的多吧，米军说得那些出问题的装备，TG那些同时代的基本上不需要芯片

要是真的TG的山寨工厂热泪盈眶;P

但本人怀疑ing:(

原帖由 jumin 于 2008-10-7 11:51 发表
军机用部分民用电子器件是很正常啊,当年成都某公司就问美国MOLEX采购民用接插件用在某型号上

现在更方便了，莫仕连接器成都工厂已经投产了

0086时代的 片子，不在旧货堆里找，那还有新的？

记者显然是不了解基本的军用设备质量体系．以为拿块片子就可以随便用，美国虽然没有驻厂军代表制度．但不等于没有基本的监督体制和手段．

美国自己生产的芯片，当垃圾运到中国，然后被打磨再卖给美国，所以说不要乱扔垃圾

看来大家对我们汕头的贵屿镇不是很了解啊.你们不知道很多电器厂都来这采购电子元器件的吗?国内的长虹和创维可是这边的大客户,所以老美用点这边的二手元件一点都不奇怪.

章家敦

不用看了[:a13:] [:a13:]

太耸人听闻了吧，美军这么贪小便宜的？

原来霉锅的f-15是这样坠毁的啊;P ;P ;P

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这事好象不是我们的问题[:a15:] [:a15:]

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